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Schäuble on Mass Migration via Turkey +Murders : Understand the People and Revise Policy !

Written by ACM
Friday, 14 September 2018
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*Strasbourg/Angelo Marcopolo/- It's by spontaneously pointing at the Spreading Deadly Attacks by Islamist Terrorists cowardly Targetting innocent Civilian People throughout Germany and elsewhere in Europe, including the recent Murder of a Medical Doctor by a Somalian Mass Asylum Seeker/Irregular Migrant at his own Home City : the Nearby Offenbourg, shortly after earlier Popular Demonstrations against other Brutal Killings at Chemnitz, Köthen, etc., that Bundestag's President, Wolfgang Schäuble, suddenly became Thoughtful, and Changed Tone  :

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
A "Metamorphose" had just occured, Unexpectedly Transforming what had meant to be just a Routine INTW to a usual Economic Review on National and Global Finances' update,


into an Explosive Magma of Strong Emotion and Fast Track Lightnings of Genial Thoughts on Top Political Issues of Burning Actuality for that key Country with 90 Millions Population, right in the Middle of a European Continent Organized in a 350 MIllions Strong Collective EU Body, Navigating like a Ship at High Sea, through a Rocky Area, with the Responsibility of a Captain enTrusted by the People to Find the Right Way among Huge Waves and Threats to be again Attacked by Treacherous and Deadly Pirates, Protect it Bravely, Organise its own Defence, with a Sharp sense of Urgency, when innocent Human Beings, a Civilisation and its core Values are all at Stake, almost at the Same Time, in order to manage to Guide and Help Bring them at Safe Harbour...


For such a purpose, No more Time, nor Space for Long, Diplomatic Subtelties of Global Financial speculations (Comp. Supra) : On the Contrary, it had to be Short and Sharp, Crystal-Clear and Right on the Key Point, Practical and Motivating, Energizing and Reassuring, Able to Bring Efficient Results where it's really Needed :


- "We Must Understand the People !",
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A Reference to "the Philosopher Karl Popper", served as Gateway :


- "Popper's Credo - not very original but Effective: The Advantage of Freedom Systems (in a Society) is that They can CORRECT their MISTAKES !", the Experienced Schäuble reminds.


He suddenly points High up to "the Future of Mankind", and Observes the Fact that "Soon, 8 Billions of People wil be Living on this Earth", among whom, "2 Billions in Africa alone".


=> Therefore, "In view of the Enormous (Population) Problems, we must Not Bury our Head in the Sand", i.e., "we (Europe) should Not Dig in Behind our Borders, But (we) Must Try to Answer the Big Questions, Together", he advises.


>>> Thus, "One Major Question of the Present is the Issue of Migration", Shäuble starts to Move that Press Interview as HE believes that it Should be done...


 - "Now, it's Not Only our new Partners in Central-Eastern Europe (f.ex. the Group of "VISEGRAD" Countries, etc), which Complaint that it's too Cumbersome"...


=> Therefore, "We Must take this Seriously !", he Urged.


- Since "Unfortunately, current (Migration) Policies are Not Sufficienty Good, also Nowhere in the West", the German Politician Critically observed, Pointing, f.ex.,, in this regard, to some "Choices of Donald Trump" in the USA, "or take the BREXIT" in the UK, "or (what he called) the Erosion of Democracy in (the Rest of) Europe", (etc).


=> Therefore, "it's Not Just to the East" of Germany (f.ex. in Saxony and/or Bavaria, where Popular Protests are more Lively), or Europe, (f.ex. among "VISEGRAD" Group Countries), because "We have it also Here", (i.e. at the West) : "This is, now, a Feature" of our Society ...    


- When an Establishment's Media's Journalist Criticises what he called "the Riots in Chemnitz", (i.e. the Popular Protests against the Brutal Murder of a Young German in Saxony, stabbed with Knife by 2 or 3 Mass Asylum Seekers/Irregular Migrants from Iraq or Syria),


    then, Schäuble reminds also the Fact that, even "during the (last) G-20 Summit, held in Hambourg, (North-Western Germany : See "Eurofora"s relevant NewsReports from that G20 Summit, f.ex., at : ...), we experienced, then, Massive Riots" too...


    - "This applies ...Both to the North and to South Germany, also for the Old (Western) and the New (Eastern) Lander (Federated States)", he observed.


    - In general, "We must Stop to speak with Arrogance", (f.ex. towards the Eastern Areas), "Otherwise, those People Feel that they are No longer treated as Equal Partners", Schâuble warned.


    >>> - "Take, for instance, our Neighbours in Poland" : "Even if some developments in Eastern Europe might Bother me, then, I think :"


     - "Who are We, Germans, that we want to Explain to Poland (a.o.) How Freedom and the Rule of Law should be ?",


(he Criticized, using a Famous Expression of Pope Francis, and which could Also be used vis a vis several Displaced and/or Exagerated, Hypocritical Criticism of Victor Orban's Hungary, by some who, in fact, serve some Shady Interests : Comp., f.ex. : ...).    


    Poland and Hungary, as well as Other "Visegrad" Group, Central-Eastern European Countries, have, notoriously, been often Criticized for their Reluctance to Take, inside their National Territories, Islamized Non-European Mass Asylum Seekers/Irregular Migrants who suddenly arrived massively through Turkey since 2015/2016+.


    >>> -  In fact, "it's very Important that we do Not Sweep the Problems Under the Carpet !", Warned Schäuble.

    - On the Contrary, we should "Take Seriously the People's Feelings : Something that we have Not Sufficiently done" until now, he Advised, (speaking Shortly After a Series of Popular Protests, f.ex. in Chemnitz and Elsewhere,     whenever Innocent Civilian People were Brutally Killed by "Islamist" Terrorists who cowardly targetted them also Recently : See, f.ex. ...).     


    - Currently, "there is no more Topical and Controversial Discussion than on the Issue of <<Refugees>> and Islam !", observed Schäuble.


    - "If" they (claim that they) "do not feel treated Fairly, we must Listen to them", he advised.


    >>> - But, "at the same time, We must Make them Understand the Rules by which, We Want to live in Europe !", he stressed.


    - F.ex., "the Rule of Law, Tolerance and Human Rights", etc. "Most People in the World want to go along with such Principles".

    
    + Moreover, even if "Migration Policy is not always in the Institutional Framework of (EU's) Lisbon Treaty", nevertheless, We (EU Countries) Need, f.ex., an "African Policy, and to Fight against the Causes for which People are Fleeing" from there. And "'there is a lot of Work to be done"...


    => But, "(as British Economist Paul Collier  shows), it makes No Sense to Include the African Migrants in Europe !", Wolfgang Schäuble Denounced.    


    - Certainly, "We (EU) Must Help those People who are in (Real) Need to come to us", (i.e. Real, Not Fake Refugees). "But, at the same time, We (EU) Must do more to Ensure that they have No Reason To Run away, any longer", he pointed out.


    => In practice, "this ... means that We (EU)May also consider to Help, in the case of one or another Criminal or Terrorist Regime in Africa, withOut using too much Force", the Top German Politician Suggested.


    >>> In fact, "the (African) Continent Needs a Chance !", Schäuble stressed. In order "to Face their Big Challenges by themselves", he urged.


    - Even if, "in the Short Term, it's about Saving the People who are in Life-Threatening situation in the Mediterranean" Sea,


>>> nevertheless, "at the Same Time, we must make it Clear that this is Not the Way to Europe !", Schäuble firmly stressed.      


    => Fustigating "the Cynical Business model" of "Human Traffickers"/"People's Smugglers",


he Clearly underlined that : - "Whoever realizes that he has No Chance to enter Europe, will Not accept a Risk to Die !" (by making a Dangerous attempt to Cross the Mediterranean Sea)...       

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    - I.e., "Not just the Mediterranean Countries, Neither Individual Agreements with Neighbouring Countries, such as Turkey", around Europe.


    >>> - Also because those Individual Deals (as f.ex. with Turkey) "Need, by Far, much More Money than what goes, until now, in Development Aid, or Borders Security !", the Experienced, former Long-Time Finance Minister of Germany, Denounced...


    Indeed, Turkey (after a notorious BlackMail on Europe, back on 2015-2016, when Ankara had thrown against Europe more than 1,5 Millions of Mass Asylum Seekers/Irregular Migrants, via its Smugglers and Land), has extorted from the EU more than 3 Billions €uros, in fuill Grants (Not Loanw), each Year !...


    + In fact, "every €uro Invested in Africa brings Much More Advantages, than what we Spend in this country (Germany) for Refugees", Schäuble concluded.


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Debates with AfD = "Exciting" ?!...
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    - The President of the Bundestag finds also that "its Debates have become quite Exciting", since it has "6 Factions inside", as he said in Reply to a Question on the Recent Entry of the Rightists of the "AfD" Party...


    - Indeed, "the Interest of the Public has Increased", Schäuble underlined. Thus, "this Parliament met one of its Most Important Tasks in the Representative (Democracy) System !".


    - However, "I would Not Speculate on what extent the Parliamentary Rules might have Affected this (AfD) Party" of the Rightists, he carefuly reserved his final assessment on that point...


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Schäuble on "Feeling Threatened" after Murder in his Home Town !
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On this occasion, Schäuble pointed himself at the Fact that, Shortly After a Long Series of Popular Demonstrations with Strong Protests for the Lack of Protection of Civilian People from Risks of Deadly Islamist Terrorist Attacks, when another Young German was Stabbed and Killed with a Knife by 2 or 3 Irregular Migrants from Iraq/Syria who had arrived in Europe through Turkey,=> it's also anOthert German, a Medical Doctor (who was even, reportedly ...Helping "Refugees"), that was Murdered with another Knife by another Irregular Migrant from Turkey, just a few Days ago, this time ...in the very Home Town of the President of the Bundestag, at Offenburg, Near Strasbourg !..

 

    - Indeed, Replying to a Journalists' Question about the previous Incidents at Chemnitz, (which is Located in the far away from here, Federated State of Saxony, (former East Germany), Schäuble pointed himself at the Fact that it's "Also in My Constituency of Offenburg, where the 1st Murder occured, in Recent weeks"...


    + Moreover, Here too, the "alleged Perpetrator was an already Rejected Asylum Seeker...", who had Not been yet Deported, Shäuble Denounced, showing that the Same Problem with the Killing of Chemnitz existed also in that subsequent Murder of Offenburg : I.e. that the Police and/or the Courts had Not yet managed to Deport such Irregular and Dangerous Individuals, with the Result to let them Free to Commit Atrocious and Brurtal Murders against Defenceless, innocent Civilian People, (i.e. the Same Problem as it had already happened even with that Horrible Truck Driving Mass Killer at Berlin's Christmas Market, a Year ago) !


    - "The Ridge is Narrow", commented Schäuble, in this regard : Even if "the vast majority of us are Willing to Help a fellow Human being – no matter what colour, religion or nationality", nevertheless, "When we start FEELING THREATENED, in Our Own Security", then, "it Becomes Hard (Difficult)", he Denounced.


    => Indeed, "the State has the Duty to Guarantee Internal Security !", even the President of the Parliament denounced...


    >>>This was, Indeed, the Number 1 Popular Demand of all those (Rightists and various Other) Demonstrators who have Shaken the Public Opinion and most Medias Debates in Germany during the Recent Weeks

:  - "We Want to be Protected and Safe !", said most of their Placards.


     - And from this point of view, it does Not Matter Whether you Live in Chemnitz (former Eastern Germany, at Saxony's Länder), or in Offenburg, (Western Germany, near Strasbourg...", Schäuble underlined.


    - "Because, ...this a Problem for all Germany, and Not Only for the City of Chemnitz or of the (Federated) State of Saxony" alone, he stressed.


    - And "Noone Disputes the Fact that Every Single Negative Incident (as those Brutal Murders) is Bad !", Schâuble concluded.


    + Moreover, the President of the Bundestag clearly Rejected, as irrelevant, the Claim made by a Journalist (of Establishment's Medias) that the Rightists of the "Alternative" Party (AfD) would be "Exploiting" "'all" those Murders, and even "Rapes" by Radicalized Islamists...   

 
    >>> - In fact, it's True that "the Mood of the Population is Tense", Nowadays, and this "is Due to the Developments in Recent Years", (i.e. since the 2015/2016 sudden "Tsunami" of 1,5 Million of Mass Asylum Seekers/Irregular Migrants thrown against Europe by Turkey, through its Smugglers, Schäuble acknowledged.


    - "Therefore, you have to Deal Wisely", with such Incidents, "Neither Dramatize, nor Trivialize", he advised.


    => - "Above all, we Need to Understand the People !", the President of the German Parliament Urged in Conclusion.

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All this clearly slams an Establishment's Media's reported Claim (used as a Pretext for Censorship) that Deadly Incidents as that, f.ex. of Offenburg (Comp. Supra), would "not have a National/Federal Interest" (sic !)...


+ In Addition, it also clearly shows that the above-mentioned Problems have obviously reached a Level after which it's Not Credible, neither Sufficient at all, to merely Claim, once again, that all those Mass Migration Issues would be efficiently addressed just by another Promise to "Strengthen the Monitoring of EU's External Borders"...


That's obviously a Good Move, but it does Not Address at all the currently "Hot" Issues (illustrated particularly after this New Series of Knife Attacks) about People's Need and Demand, here and now, for "Protection and Safety" inside Europe, (Comp. Supra).


Chancellor Angie Merkel had revealed, a Year ago, that the Number of those Mass Asylum Seekers/Irregular Migrants, among the 1,5 Million who came, already since 2015-2016, to Europe through the Balkans Route after intruding via Turkey, but whose Demands had been checked and found False, so that they were ready to be Deported, was, in fact, quite Limited, almost Tiny, comparatively. And most among the Perpetrators of those Recent Murders had Not been yet Deported, neither detained, until they Killed innocent Civilian People.


Therefore, once again, here too, it's obvious that a Stronger Monitoring of EU's External Borders would be Good, but blatantly Insufficient, Nowadays.


A fortiori when "FRONTEX"'s Interventions are Limited, in real Practice, into merely practicing the role of a ... "TAXI", (as Italy's Beppe Grillo had notoriously Denounced about alleged CoastGuards, whose activities, in fact, are Limited into merely ...Helping Bring inside Europe even More "Refugees", withOut doing practicaly Nothing in order to Stop them. (As also Many relevant Press Releases about the Recent Activities of "FRONTEX" around the Greek Islands of Aegean Sea, Facing the Turkish Coasts, clearly reveal, since they only speak about the "Rescue" or Facilitation of "Refugees"/Mass Migrants to enter Europe through Turkey and via Greece, withOut even mentioning any Attempt at all to Stop Smuggling them !)....    

    These are obviously important critical points to take into account before final Political Decisions, f.ex. at the forthcoming Salzburg EU Summit Next Week in Austria.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         

 

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(NDLR : Full initial INTW to "Handelsblatt", 13/9/2018, at : https://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/deutschland/bundestagspraesident-im-interview-mein-respekt-nahm-ab-wolfgang-schaeuble-spricht-ueber-sein-verhaeltnis-zur-bankenbranche/23054964.html)
 
 
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EPP MEPs Majority for Victor Orban => Refuse Mass Migration+LGBT Lobbyist/EP Rapporteur Threat

Written by ACM
Wednesday, 12 September 2018
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*Strasbourg/EU Parliament/Angelo Marcopolo/(Partly UpDated)- Manifold Converging Facts, gathered from Monday up to Thursday in EU Parliament by "Eurofora", clearly indicate that a Majority of ChristianDemocrat/EPP Group (the Biggest) MEPs either Voted Against or Abstained on a Controversial Report threatening UnPrecedented Sanctions on Hungary, drafted by a former registered "Lobbyist" of NGOs linked to Mass Migration, LGBT, Soros, a.o. Lobbies, who, normally, should have Never been given such a big Responsibility, for obvious Conflict of Interest, (See Infra).     

 

Indeed, an Absolute Majority of ChristianDemocrat/EPP Group's 116 MEPs, were Against, Abstained or Refused to Participate in the Vote of that Report, which was Backed Only by a Minority of 102 EPP MEPs, (out of a Total of 218 : Previously 221).   

  In Addition, an even Stronger Majority in EU Parliament, of 348 MEPs, clearly Rejected a "Socialists"' Attempt to Deny the Fact that, nonobstant some NGOs' and EU/CoE/UN Bodies' alleged "Concerns" on Hungary, these are simply "Non Binding ...Opinions", since, "Legally, ...Only the Court of Justice of the EU may Interpret the provisions of the (EU) Treaty". (Indeed, Orban reportedly intends to Lodge a Legal Complaint to the ECJ at nearby Luxembourg asap).    

 

All these Facts, obviously, Belie the incredble Claims and other "Fake News" by Establishment's Medias, as mainstream Newspaper "Le Monde" (France), according to whose "Special Envoy to Strasbourg", about "7 out of 10" ChristianDemocrat/EPP MEPs would have been ready to Vote Against Orban (sic !)...

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+ Moreover, Victor Orban succeeded to Forge, thus, a rare Unity of All the Right, adding to Mainstream ChristianDemocrats/EPP MEPs (many of rare Personal/Political Quality, Top Euro-Politicians: See Infra), also anOther maistream Group : that of Conservatives (ECR), as well as the Atypical "Freedom and Democracy" Group of Euro-Sceptics (EFDD), and the Rightists of "Nations and Freedoms" (ENF) Group, added to almost All "Independent" MEPs.    ++ He even managed to Attract several ... "Socialists", Liberals and Leftist MEPs (See Infra) !        

 

And, all that, just by someone who Stands clearly at the Right side of the Political Spectrum, while also being in favour of a ..."Strong Europe", (as Orban's Hungarian EU Presidency's official Program underlined, already since its 2011 Official Document distributed in EU Parliament in Strasbourg, obtained and kept by "Eurofora" untl 2018 : See relevant PHOT0)...     

(NDLR : For more concrete Details on Today's VOTE, See Infra).    

=> Thus, Orban seems, meanwhile, in the process of Agreeing, de facto, with French President Emmanuel Macron, that they may Lead the 2 Different main Political Sides on which could be Polarized the forthcoming May 2019 EU Elections !


    And even mainstream Center-Right EU Leader and German Chancellor, Angie Merkel, (that some attempt to oppose to Orban, Both EPP Members), reportedly observed, Earlier, at a Joint Press Conference with the Hungarian Prime Minister in Berlin, that, despite "some Differences", nevertheless, on the recent Mass Migration Issue, Victor Orban "has done a part of the work for us... , (by Stopping the Western Balkans Route from Turkey, at the Peak of the 2015-2016 Mass Asylum Seekers/Irregular Migrants' Crisis).     

 

However, a Paradox is that, Orban (who Triggered an Urgenty needed and succesful Protection of EU's Borders since February 2016: Comp. Supra), is now Harassed by various, mainly Leftist Opponents, and Threatened with Financial and/or Politicall "Sanctions",     while, on the Contrary, Turkey, (which Suddenly threw into Europe more than 1,5 Millions of Heavily Islamized Non-European Mass Asylum Seekers/Irregular Migrants, reportedly "Chosen" among the Most Difficult to Integrate, via a Network of Turkish Smugglers and Crooks), got ...an Additional + 3 Billions € in full Grants by EU Funds each Year !  

 

 + And Today, it's only due to a Regrettable Division inside the ChristianDemocrat/EPP Group of MEPs, (whose current Chair, Manfred Weber, said that he'd personaly Vote that Controversial Report opening a Procedure for Sanctions against Hungary - reportedly because, as a Cadidate for the Replacement of EU Commission's President Jean-Claude Juncker, he would have to become "Acceptable" also by Other Political Groups), that, finally, this Report was apparently Endorsed in EU Parliament (See Infra).   

 

 While, on the Contrary, (given also the Opposition of Both the "Conservatists" and the "pro-Brexit" Groups of MEPs, as well as of the Rightists, Independents, etc. : Comp. Supra and Infra), an eventual Unity of ChristianDemocrats/EPP around their Member : the Hungarian Governing Party "Fides", would have Certainly Rejected any such Threat of Sanction...


    Indeed, according to a Controversial Interpretation of EU Parliament's Rules, anounced only at a Press Point this week in Strasbourg, it seems that the "Abstention" Votes (including of several EPP MEPs) are Not taken into Account, in order to Calculate if the Required 2/3 Majority was reached, or not., (Contrary to a Different Interpretation, given by the EU Parliament's competent Rapporter hershelf, Earlier from Thursday in Brussels : where she had Incited EPP's MEPs to ..."Go Drink a Coffee", instead of Voting, as mainstream Medias had stressed, even on their Headlines !). Thus a Final Vote of about 450 "Yes", versus 250 (incl. "No" + "Abstention") Votes, was, Finaly, Analysed as a "2/3 Majority"...   

 
    Something which is, however, another among the Disputed points in a very probable Legal Complaint due to be Decided by Hungary Next Week for the EU Court of Justice in nearby Luxembourg...


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The point about EPP Group's Collective stance (Comp. Supra) has a particular and Wider Importance Nowadays, inter alia also because the embattled Prime Minister of Hungary, Victor Orban, (who recently Chaired the "Visegrad" Group of Central EU Countries), has, meanwhile, both Adopted a Set of (quite Popular) Political Principles which vary from those currently pushed by a controversial Establishment, and expressed his wish to actively contribute, this time, to Shape the Agenda of his Political Family, (the Center-Right, mainly of ChristianDemocrats/EPP), for the Crucial forthcoming European Elections of May 2019.


But, already, just in a Few Days Time : on September 20, 2018, an exceptional EU Summit of Heads of State/Goverment in Salzburg, Austria (the current EU rotating Chair), is due to Focus mainly on the Challenges of Mass Asylum Seekers/Irregular Migrants from Non-European Countries, particularly after that Sudden, more than 1,5 Millions Big "Tsunami" through Turkey since 2015/2016+, etc., who have notoriously presented UnPrecedented Problems of Integration because of Radical Islamization and even Bloody Terrorism targetting innocent Civilian People, until Recently, (f.ex. in Germany, but also in France, the UK, Netherlands, etc), with the Result to Provoke a UK Majority for "BREXIT" and a Long Series of Wide-Spreading Electoral Results in favor of Anti-Mass Migration and/or various Rightist, even more or less "Euro-Sceptic" Political Movements throughout Europe, (f.ex., in the Germany, France, the UK, Italy, Austria, the Netherlands, Norway, Finland, Sweden, Bulgaria, Denmark, Czech Republic, Switzerland, etc).


Victor Orban's Popular policies, (which were marked by 3 Landslide big Electoral Wins, with an Absolute Majority of Hungarian People's Votes), notoriously Stopped most of that UnPrecedented "Tsunami" coming through Turkey, already since the Beginning of 2016, by Protecting the Country's Borders towards the Balkans, (which Incited also many Other European Countries, located along that Route from Turkey, to do alike, in order to Prevent Big Masses of Irregular Migrants from being Accumulated and Blocked in their own Territories : See, f.ex. ....).  


But, already Earlier, Hungary had also adopted anOther Series of Important Reforms on a Different Topical Issue, (which has notoriously Provoked a lot of Controversies, Socio-Political Infights and even an UnPrecedented use of Police Force against peaceful Demonstrators, f.ex. in France on 2013-2014, etc) : that of BioEthics.


Particularly concerning the Protection of Natural Family, between Men and Women, able to give Natural Births, Contrary to Recent Pressure (f.ex. by USA's former President Barack Hussein Obama, etc) to Impose "Same Sex Marriages", and even the Submission of Children to the Power of Homosexuals under pretext of "Adoption", inevitably Pushing, sooner or later, also towards the Exploitation of "Surrogate Mothers", and to a Fast-Growing Number of "Articificial" Births, obtained by Technological Interferences, (including, f.ex., "In Vitro Fertilisation", TransPlantations, Sperms/Eggs/Frozen Embryos' "Banks", Pre-Natal Tests, Genetic Manipulations of Human Embryos, etc), potentially Dangerous for all Humankind, (especially after Recent Discoveries of "Gene-Editing", etc).


Indeed, Hungary, (soon Followed also by various Similar Attempts in Many Other Countries : f.ex. Slovenia, Romania, Slovakia, Poland, Croatia, even inside many USA's Federated States, etc), was the 1st European Country (in Addition to Russia, etc), which decided (by Popular Referenda voted by the People) to Protect the Natural Family (and, therefore, Natural Births of Human Beings) inside its own Constitution. Inside which, Victor Orban and his followers also added an Explicit Reference to the National and European Cultural Heritage and/or Identity, which included our Continent's original Christian Roots.      

      
=> For all those Reasons, inevitably, Orban's Hungary obviously started to become a Target of various kinds of Lobbies whose Interests or Agendas were Opposed to those Measures : From pro-Mass Migration or "LGBTI" NGOs, (including Millionaire Soros), up to Foreign States (even Non-European : as Obama's USA, etc), eager and pressing to Impose their Agendas, etc. The Resulting Social and Legal InFight inside Hungary itself, (mutatis-mutandis, as also in several USA's Federated States, up to the Supreme Court, etc), generated various Tensions and Strained the Established Medias, Judges, etc., (particularly After a Previous Period of alleged Clientelism and Cronyism by several former "Socialist" Governments, which had resulted even into UnForgetable  Violent Clashes in Budapest and elsewhere, just Before the Hungarian People gave a Majority Government to Victor Orban (from 2010 until Now: 2018).


So that Many concrete Points Criticized inside a Controversial Report Drafted for EU Parliament by a "Green" MEP from the Netherlands, but of Italian Origin, Judith Sargentini, alone, (a former officialy Registered "Lobbyist", hired by pro-Migration NGOs, linked to controversial Millionaire Soros, and hershelf, personaly Member of "LGBTI" Group until now, etc), naturally concern, directly or indirectly, various real or alleged Aspects or Consequences obviously related to those Topical Issues, (f.ex., on Foreign NGOs, Medias, Judges, Legal/Constitutional Reforms, Massive Non-European Migration, LGBTI-related matters: Comp. Supra, etc).


Orban's Government strongly Criticised such a Report, arguying that it was adopted withOut real Dialogue, did Not Reply to many Legal Points made by Hungary, Missed several Facts, contrained many Inaccuracies or Errors, and appeared Biaised, Vowing to bring that Case up to EU's Court of Justice, at nearby Luxembourg.


After a 9/11 Debate "of Rare Violence", (as even Center-Left Establishment Newspaper "Le Monde" observed), in EU Parliament in Strasbourg, where even his President, Experienced former EU Commissioner, Antonio Tajani, had to personaly intervene in order to Allow for a "Roma" Woman from Hungary to Speak withOut Interruptions by Aggressive Opponents), during which Orban faced Many gross Insults, (Criticized by various MEPs at the Plenary even during the Next Days), and Denounced a Rigged Vote, since Everything would have been already Decided Beforehand, as he claimed, Urging for Political and Legal Action against it, finally, indeed, a Voting Result was obtained by his Opponents which, at least theoretically, Triggered, for the 1st Time in History, a Procedure Threatening to Exclude an EU Member Country from its Rights to Participate in EU's Collective Decision-Making process.


That unique "Sanction" had been Introduced precisely on the Occasion of such an Earlier Debate on ... Hungary itself (sic !), since 2013 in Strasbourg, (i.e. when the above-mentioned BioEthical Controversies involving "LGBTI" Lobbies, etc., notoriously were at their Highest level, f.ex. in France, Hungary, USA, etc), as its own Rapporteur had explained then, among others, in his Reply to an "Eurofora"'s Question during his Press Conference in EU Parliament, (See : ...)...


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The VOTE's concrete Details :
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At any case, in Today's Vote, it's a Fact that an Absolute Majority of 116 ChristianDemocrats/EPP Group's MEPs, (against a Minority of Only 102), Refusent to Back that Controversial Report against Victor Orban's Hungary, by either Voting "Against" (57), Voting "Abstention" (29), or by Not Participating at all to that Reports' vote (28).


[In Addition, there were about anOther +30 More MEPs, from various Other Political Groups, (i.e. circa 57 MEPs in all), who did Not Participate at all to that Controversial Vote. And, at least 10 among them, were inside EU Parliament's Chamber Today, Voting at anOther Report, Earlier, (of Axel Voss, about Digital Publications' CopyrRight, etc), but, curiously, "Disappeared" when Sargentini's Paper against Victor Orban arrived at its Voting Time...]


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Even more Interesting is also the Fact that those "Resisting" MEPs, particularly among the ChristianDemocrat/EPP Group, who either Voted Against, or Abstained when that Controversial Report surfaced, seem to be very Important, Top mainstream MEPs, (often Both on the European and at a National Political Level) :


Indeed, a careful Examination of the Facts, finds among them :


- several vice-Presidents of the ChristianDemocrat/EPP Group itself, and/or even EU Parliament's vice-Presidents or Quaestors ;


- Many very Experienced MEPs and/or former Prime Ministers or Ministers;


- a great lot of Presidents or vice-Presidents of various EU Parliament's Committees and/or Delegations;  


- Added, also, to numerous very Qualified MEPs, (f.ex. University Professors, etc);


- Spreading accross Both most, if not all, former Central-Eastern European Countries, (from Czech Republic and Poland, down to Slovenia, and up to Bulgaria, etc), and among the Biggest EU Countries, (including the UK, Italy, Poland, Spain, Romania, etc., as well as Germany (specially in Bavaria and Saxony), France, but also Austria, etc.


=> So that Victor Orban's Links to that Majority (of about 116 out of a Total of 218) ChristianDemocrat/EPP "Resisting" MEPs, appear to be particularly Important, and, at any case, canNot be Ignored.


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    * Indeed, f.ex.,  among those ChristianDemocrat/EPP MEPs who Voted Against that Controversial Report of "Green" MEP Sargentini, but, on the Contrary, Supported Victor Orban's Popular politics in Hungary, were also :

- Vice-Presidents of ChristianDemocrat/EPP Group : Lara COMI (Italy) ; Andrey KOVATCHEV, (also EU Parliament's Quaestor), from Bulgaria, (Governing Party of "Citizens for European Development"); Professor József SZÁJER, (Hungary), former EPP v.P. Jacek SARYUSZ-WOLSKI, still MEP, (Poland, See Infra).


 + EU Parliament's vice-Presidents: Lívia JÁRÓKA (Hungary) Voted "Against"; while Ramón Luis VALCÁRCEL SISO, (Spain), Voted "Abstention" ; but Andrey KOVATCHEV, also Quaestor, voted "Against", as well as former EP v.P. Jacek SARYUSZ-WOLSKI (Comp. Supra) voted "Against", same with former EP vice-President Tamás DEUTSCH, (Hungary), SG of the Governing Party; (as former EP v.President Mario DAVID, Portugal, strongly Defended Orban in the Press), added to Conservative EU Parliament's vice-President Zdzisław KRASNODEBSKI (Poland), who also Voted "Against", while even "Socialist" Vladimír MAŇKA (Slovakia), EU Parliament's Quaestor, Voted "Abstention", (etc).


- Presidents of Committees/Delegations : Pavel SVOBODA, (Czech Republic), President of Legal affairs Committee ;  Alojz PETERLE, (Slovenia), F. Prime Minister, now President of Delegation on FYROM ; Franck PROUST, (France), President of the French Delegation to the ChristianDemocrat/EPP Group, (Supported, initially Sarkozy, and afterwards Wauquiez); Fulvio MARTUSCIELLO, (Italy), President of EU Parliament's Delegation on Israel, (etc).


While Dr. Czesław Adam SIEKIERSKI, (Poland). President of the Agriculture Committee. University Researcher. F. Minister of Agriculture. Member of the Board of "People's Party", Voted "Abstention" ;  as well as Bogdan Andrzej ZDROJEWSKI, (Poland). President of EU Delegation for Belarus. F. Culture Minister ; Teresa JIMÉNEZ-BECERRIL BARRIO, (Spain), President of EU Delegation for Mexico ; Luis de GRANDES PASCUAL (Spain), President of EU Delegation to Andean Countries ; Ramona Nicole MĂNESCU (Romania), President of EU Delegation to Mashreq Countries ; (etc). -

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 * Vice-Presidents of Committees/Delegations+: Stefano MAULLU, (Italy), vice-President of Committee on Culture and Education; Monica HOHLMEIER, vice-President of Budget Committee, Germany, f. Minister for Culture and Education in Bavaria (Federated State), f. President of CSU Party (Bavaria) ; Dubravka ŠUICA, (Croatia), vice-Président of the Foreign Affairs Committee ; Pal CSAKY, vice-President of Petitions' Committee, (Slovakia) ;  Kinga GAL vice-President of Committee for Civic Liberties and Justice (Hungary) ; Iuliu WINKLER, (Romania), vice-President of International Trade Committee ; László TŐKÉS, vice-President of Human Rights Committee (Hungary) ; Miroslav MIKOLÁŠIK, (Slovakia), vice-President of EU - Latin America Parliamentary Assembly, President of ChristianDemocrats/EPP's Working Group on BioEthics; Gabriel MATO, (Italy), vice-President of Committee for Central America ; Elisabetta GARDINI, (Italy), vice-President of Committee for Mercosur (Latin America) ; Romana TOMC, (Slovenia), vice-President of Committee on Japan ; Anna ZABORSKA vice-President of EU Delegation to the Caribbean Forum Assembly (16 Countries), from Slovakia : a Medical Doctor, committed on BioEthics, (+invited Speaker at the pro-Life March in Washington DC, USA, etc) ; Mrs Andrea BOCSKOR (Hungary) vice-President of Committees for Culture/Education and of "EuroN-EST" ; Traian UNGUREANU, (Romania), F. vice-President of EU Delegation to EuroNEst Assembly; Barbara MATERA, vice-President of Committee for Women and Equality, (Italy) ; Salvatore SICU, former Minister of Defense and of Finances, Italian, (Berlusconi's "Forza Italia"), vice-President of Committee on relations with Arab peninsula, Lawyer ; (etc).


While Rosa    ESTARÀS FERRAGUT, (Spain), vice-President of Petitions' Committee, Voted "Abstention" ; as well as Agustín DÍAZ DE MERA GARCÍA CONSUEGRA, (Spain) Vice-Chair of EU Delegation to the Euro-Latin American Assembly, F. vice-President of WEO's Assembly ;


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- Prime Ministers or Ministers/Political Parties/Movements' Leaders : Salvatore SICU, (Italy) former Minister of Defense + of Finances, Voted "Against" ; as well as Nadine MORANO, (France), former Minister, National Political Counselor of the Republican Party, (initially of Sarkozy, now Wauquiez) ; Angelika NIEBLER, (Germany), vice-President of CSU Governing Party in Bavaria, F. President of Research/Industry/Energy Committee ; Herrmann WINKLER, Germany, CDU President in Leipsig, F. Minister for European affairs in the Federated State of Saxony, (NB : There where many German People demonstrated after another Murder by 2 Irregular Migrants, who had arrived through Turkey, and should, normally, have been Deported earlier : See Chemnitz City case at ...); Tamás DEUTSCH, also SG of the Governing Party, (Hungary) ; Alojz PETERLE, F. Prime Minister, (Slovenia) ; and Brice HORTEFEUX, (France), Experienced f. Minister on Migration and Integration, JHA, etc., (a Sarkozy faithful), had already Voted "Against" that Draft, inside the competent Committee, (etc).

While Michelle ALLIOT-MARIE (France), Chair of Committee on Arab peninsula, F. Minister of Defense, JHA, and Foreign Affairs, as well as Secretary General of Chirac's Party "UMP", (a Gaullist), Voted "Abstention"; but also Jarosław KALINOWSKI, F. bis Prime Minister, (Poland) ; Dr. Theodor STOLOJAN, (Romania), F. Prime Minister, and Party President. Now Member of PDL Party's Executive Board ; Judge Rachida DATI, (France), f. Adviser and Spokesperson for Sarkozy, F. Minister of Justice ; Brice HORTEFEUX, (France), Experienced f. Minister on Migration and Integration, JHA, etc, (a Sarkozy faithful). [He had Voted "No" in Committee] ; Dr. Czesław Adam SIEKIERSKI, (Poland), also F. Minister of Agriculture. Member of the Board of "People's Party" ; Bogdan Andrzej ZDROJEWSKI, (Poland) also F. Culture Minister ; Franc BOGOVIČ, F. President of Slovenian People's Party, +Minister of Agriculture/Environment ; Santiago FISAS AYXELÀ, (Spain), F. Minister for Sports ; Algirdas SAUDARGAS, (Lithuania), Former President of the ChristianDemocrat Party, Ambassador to the Vatican, Foreign Minister (bis) ; Eva MAYDELL, (Bulgarian MEP), new President of the European Movement (International) ; (etc).

- Many Other Important MEPs of the ChristianDemocrat/EPP Group, from Various Countries, did also Vote "Against" that Controversial Report, such as, f.ex. : Markus FERBER, Germany, (Bavaria), a most Experienced MEP since 1994-2018, President of "Europa-Union" for the Federated State of Bavaria ; Angelique DELAHAYE, (France), f. President of Farmers' Union, Knight of the Legion of Honour ; Massimiliano SALINI, New EU's Rapporteur on Space policy, from Italy, ("Forza Italia", of Berlusconi) ; Alessandra MUSSOLINI, Member of National Bureau of "Forza Italia", (Berlusconi's Party) ; Ambassador Željana ZOVKO (Croatia), F. BiH Permanent Representative to the WTO, FAO, UNESCO ; András GYÜRK, (Hungary), Director of the Governing Party's Electoral Campaigns ; Vladimir URUTCHEV, (Bulgaria), a Nuclear Technology Engineer, F. Member of the Executive Board in ENISS, FORATOM ; Dr Pilar AYUSO, Director of Research, (Spain) ; Andor DELI, Jurist for EU Law, deputy Governor of Voivodina Region, (Hungary) ; Tomáš ZDECHOVSKÝ, Media Consultant of the Czech Government and of the EPP (Czech Republic) ; (etc).


But also : Albert DESS, Germany, (Bavaria) ; Aldo PATRICIELLO, (Italy), "Forza Italia" (Berlusconi's Party) ; Alberto CIRIO (Italy) ; Csaba SÓGOR, a former Senator, from Romania ; Carlos ITURGAIZ, (Spain) ; Norbert  ERDŐS, from Hungary, as also Ádám KÓSA, Lawyer ; György HÖLVÉNYI ; György SCHÖPFLIN, etc.; Andrey NOVAKOV + Asim ADEMOV, + Emil RADEV, from Bulgaria, (recent EU Chair), of the Governing Party : "Citizens for European Development" ; Michaela ŠOJDROVÁ, from the Czech Republic ; József NAGY, from Slovakia ; Patricija ŠULIN, and Milan ZVER, from Slovenia ; Ivana Maletic, a Young MEP from Croatia (current CoE's Presidency) and Marijana PETIR, (ibid) ; etc.


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While several Other ChristianDemocrat/EPP MEPs Voted "Abstention", Refusing to endorse that Controversial Report, such as, f.ex., among others, also : Dr. Godelieve QUISTHOUDT-ROWOHL, (Germany), vice-President of EU Delegation for Canada, Experienced CDU's MEP during 1989-2018 from Lower Saxony, Member of ChristianDemocrat/EPP Party's Political Bureau ; Sven SCHULZE (Germany). Engineer. Member of CDU's Executive Board at Saxony-Anhalt (Federated State) ; Arnaud DANJEAN, (France), vice-President of EU Delegation to NATO Assembly, (close to F. Prime Minister Alain Juppé) ; Philippe JUVIN, (France), Professor of Medicine, F. National Secretary of "UMP" Party, currently Spokesman of the "Republican" Party ; Geoffroy DIDIER, (France)  Lawyer, F. Deputy Secretary General of "UMP" Party + "Republican" Party, F. Region vice-President ; Joachim ZELLER, (Germany, CDU, Berlin). Vice-President of Regional Development Committee ; Dr. Peter JAHR, (Germany), Agricultural Engineer - PhD of Leipsig University, CDU Party, in Saxony, (where a recent Murder by Irregular Migrants who arrived through Turkey was committed this Summer 2018 at Chemnitz City, provoking Popular Demonstrations, etc) ; Francisco José MILLÁN MON (Spain), Diplomat/F. Director for Europe at the Foreign Ministry. Member of "Partido Popular'"s National Executive Board ; José Ignacio SALAFRANCA SÁNCHEZ-NEYRA, (Spain). Experienced MEP during 1994-2018 ; Pilar del CASTILLO VERA, (Spain), Professor of Political Science ; (etc).

 

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+ Among a Great Number of OTHER Political GROUPS' MEPs who Voted for Victor Orban, and "Against" that Controversial Report, are also, f.ex.,
- The Rightist MEPs from the FPÖ of the new Austrian Government coalition, (currently Chairing the EU), such as Harald VILIMSKY, (vice-President of ENF Group of MEPs) ; Franz OBERMAYR ; Barbara KAPPEL ; Georg MAYER, (ENF);  etc.


- + Even amidst the currently "Independents", is, Paradoxically, included a former vice-President of the ChristianDemocrat/EPP Group, F. Chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee : Jacek SARYUSZ-WOLSKI from Poland. He was excluded from the EPP Group on 2017, due mainly to a Division of the Right in Poland, which, regretfully, spilled over to EPP Group in EU Parliament on 2017. But, at any case, this Noteworthy Fact deserved to be Known.
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++ Even several important ..."Socialists", Liberals and Leftists MEPs, Voted for Victor Orban, and "Against" Sargentini's Controversial Report :  
F.ex., among others, also : - Renate WEBER, (Liberal, Romania), vice-President of Employment/Social affairs Committee ; University Professor of Philosophy Jan KELLER, (Czech Repubic, PSD - Presidential Medal for services on Science) ; Norica NICOLAI, (Liberal, Romania), vice-President of National Liberal Party ; Iveta GRIGULE-PĒTERSE, (Latvia, Liberal), President of EU Delegations to Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turcmenistan and Mongolia ; Jaromír KOHLÍČEK, (Left, from Czech Republic), vice-President of Industry, Research and Energy Committee ; Kateřina KONEČNÁ, (Left, from Czech Republic), Committee vice-President, Former President of Delegation to the IPU and vice-President of Foreign affairs Committee at the Parliament of Prague ; João FERREIRA, (Left, from Portugal), vice-President of EU Delegation to ACP Assembly ; João PIMENTA LOPES (Left, Portugal), vice-President of Womens' Rights and Equality Committee, + v.P of EU Delegation to Latin-American Assembly; Jiří MAŠTÁLKA, (Left - Czech Republic), vice-President of EU Delegation to Russia ; (etc).


+ In Addition, even noteworthy "Socialists" and Liberal, Independent or Left-leaning MEPs Voted "Abstention", Refusing to Endorse that Controversial Report, such as, f.ex. :  Pavel POC, (Czech Republic, PSD), vice-President of  Environment, Public Health+Food Safety Committee ; Vladimír MAŇKA, (Slovakia, PSD). EU Parliament's Quaestor ; Lawyer António MARINHO E PINTO, vice-President of EU's Delegation to Brazil, (Liberal, from Portugal) ; Valentinas MAZURONIS (Liberal, from Lithuania), Head of Political Party, F. Minister of Environment, F. Head of the Opposition ; Kazimierz Michał UJAZDOWSKI, Former Minister of Culture (bis) and vice-President of PiS Party, University Senior Lecturer : (Poland, Independent) ; Monika SMOLKOVÁ, (Slovakia, PSD), (etc).


 ++ Even 2 MEPs from ...Beppe Grillo's "5 Stars" Movement (co-Governing now in Italy), such as, f.ex, : David BORRELLI (Independents) and Architect Daniela AIUTO (EFDD), etc.


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>>> All this, naturally, goes Together with a Massive Support to Victor Orban, both from the Mainstream "Conservatives"' Group (ECR), as well as from the Atypical "Freedom and Direct Democracy" Group (EFDD), and the Rightists of the "Nations and Freedoms" Group (ENF), including most "Independents", almost all of whom Voted "Against" that Controversial Report, (Comp. Supra).    


    In this regard, it was really Astonishing to hear, during this EU Parliament's Plenary Debate, even the Leader of the Rightists, Nicolas Bay of France, openly declare to Victor Orban that "Your Europe, is the Europe of our Dreams !" :


     It's probably the 1st Time that a Head of Rightists, (and allegedly "Euro-Sceptics", even accused by some to be "Anti-Europeans"), makes such an Emotive Proclamation vis a vis a ChristianDemocrat/EPP Leader that he (surprizingly) finds politically Interesting, attractive...


    But, Succeed, at the Same Time, to keep Alive the Faith of a Majority of ChristianDemocrats/EPP MEPs (Comp. Supra), while also Attracting some important Liberals, "Socialists", Leftists, and other Atypical MEPs, (See Facts cited Supra), is something very Rare, if not Unique...


    => Has, perhaps, Macron's "New Foundation" of all EU Political Life, just Started, a few Months before the crucial May 2019 European Elections ?

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+ Last, but not least : The "Green" Rapporteur Miss Sargentini, in her Controversal Report, slams Victor Orban's Hungary, inter alia, also for "its Restrictive Definition of Family", (as she calls the Defense of Natural Family, between a Man and a Woman), Accusing it for "Discrimination", simply because "it does not encompass ... Same-Sex Couples" (sic !).
That same MEP, (Member of "LGBTI" Inter-Group, and former "Lobbyist" for NGOs sympathetic to Millionaire Soros, etc), goes on to Add also an Accusation for what she Claims to be "Negative Stereotypes and Prejudice" etc., "Against Lesbian, Gay, BiSexual and Trans-Gender Persons, particularly in the ...Education sector".


This was judged by the ChristianDemocrat/EPP Group's Majority so Wrong, that it Officially Asked for a "Split" Vote, precisely on that Point, which was Accepted by EU Parliament, even if a Hasty Voting (and, probably, the Non-Participation of Many ChristianDemocrat/EPP MEPs in that Report's Vote : Comp. Supra), apparently, was Not Enough in order to clearly Reject such Claims, (at least for this time).


Concerning Human Rights and even Democracy, (since Victor Orban's Hungary is notoriously one among those EU Countries where a Strong Majority of People have recently Voted to confirm even in their Constitution the Traditional Principle of Natural Family), a key Question inevitably arises :


=> Does, Miss Sargentini, really Believe, in that case, that even ...the landmark European Convention of Human Rights, (where the EU is officially invited to join, according also to the current, Lisbon EU Treaty), might also be ... too "Restrictive" and full of "Negative Stereotypes and Prejudice" (etc : Comp. Supra), simply because its Article 12 says that the "Right to Marry and to found a Family" concerns "Men and Women" ?
Or, would she, perhaps, seek to Impose also to the 47 Member Countries-strong CoE a forced Revision of its PanEuropean Convention on Human Rights ?


- "Good Lack", in that case...  

 

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(NDLR :  Headline PHOTO = Controversial Rapporteur, "Green" MEP Miss Sargentini, former "Lobbyist" for NGO and Member of "LGBTI" Group, celebrates with her pals the Adoption of her Report against Victor Orban's Hungary, threatening Sanctions).
 
 
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CoE/Vatican Conference for Human Rights' Universality, eve of Key UN/Geneva+ECHR-EU/Strasbourg moves

Written by ACM
Monday, 10 September 2018

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*Strasbourg/CoE/Angelo Marcopolo/- During a Well-Attended Symposium, in a Full Conference Room at the "Palace of Europe" in Strasbourg, an exceptional Cooperation between the PanEuropean CoE and the Vatican, on the occasion of the 70th Anniversary of the Universal Declaration for Human Rights (1948-2018), focused into demonstrating how Topical is, in fact, the issue of the "Universality of Human Rights" Nowadays, at the Eve of 2 particularly Important Sessions organized in Parallel by the UNO at nearby Geneva, and by the CoE here in Strasbourg, on Monitoring several "Hot" Cases of Human Rights' Violations both in Europe and across the World.

 

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Emeritus Professor at Panthéon-Assas University, Paris II, Emmanuel Decaux, who has played an important role for the adoption of UNO's landmark International Convention on the Drama of "Missing" Persons, and still is a Key Member of the World Council on Human Rights in Geneva, reminded, inter alia, how even the Spiritual Father of the European Convention of Human Rights, René Cassin, (whose Institute is located in Strasbourg), had strived to promote the Universality of Human Rights at an International Level, being against the risk to practically restrict them, more or less, only inside Europe.

 

 
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The President of the PanEuropean Court of Human Rights, (involving 47 Member States), Guido Raimondi, observed, inter alia, that the relevant European Convention clearly Protects Any Person living in the jurisdiction of CoE's Member Countries, already from its 1st Article, and that Governments are Responsible not only inside their National Territories, but also in Other Areas which may come under their "Control". Moreover, a recently developed "Judges' Diplomacy", by bringing often Together the main Regional Human Rights Courts of Various Continents in the World, can Help to develop common Standards.

 

 

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Vatican's "Foreign Minister", Archbishop Paul Richard Gallagher, (who knows personally quite well Strasbourg), Warned against 3 main Challenges faced Nowadays by the Universality of Human Rights :  (1) Certain Economic Policy Views which are against Social Inclusion, (2) Claims that Multi-Culturalism might allow for Exceptions on Human Rights, and (3) Cases of States or Areas where Serious and Massive Violations of Human Rights have been Tolerated for too long.

He concluded mainly by Focusing on Pope Francis' key concept of "Integral Human Development", closely linked with the traditional Christian conception of "Human Dignity", "based on the Natural law inscribed on Human Hearts, and present in Different Cultures and Civilizations", as also his predecessor, Emeritus Pope Benedict had said during a Previous Anniversary of the International Declaration for Human Rights, at UNO's General Assembly, Back on 2008, in order to fight against Dangers of "Relativism".

Despite (or, perhaps : Because of...) an Exceptionally fertile and Timely context of Manifold on-going Developments involving "Hot" Issues of Human Rights, these Days, both inside the CoE (f.ex. : its Comittee of Ministers' supervision of the execution of ECHR's judgments next week in Strasbourg), and the UNO, (f.ex., the Beginning of the Annual Session of the World Council for Human Rights at nearby Geneva from this week), as well as in EU Parliament, (f.ex., among others, also a Controversy about the real situation in Hungary, etc, debated on Tuesday and Wednesday during this Weekly Plenary in Strasbourg, etc), surprisingly, Contrary to what had happened in the Past, when Mgr. Gallagher had visited the CoE at a Previous, Different Occasion, this Time there was No Press-Point organized.

 


Nevertheless, well-informed Vatican's sources, speaking "off the record" with "Eurofora", awknowledged the fact that a Serious Challenge for Human Rights Nowadays, having a Universal Character, are the Risks that may present eventual Abuses of Modern Genetic Technologies, particularly after the Recent, Controversial Discoveries also of "Gene Editing", whose Present and Future depend, inter alia, also from the development of Scientists' "Consciousness".

 

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(NDLR : Headline PHOTO = Archbishop Paul Richard Gallagher,
Secretary for Relations with States of the Holy See, and Vatican's Permanent Representative to the CoE, Msgr. Paolo Rudelli)
 
 
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Swedish People vote in Large Majority to the Right: +59%

Written by ACM
Sunday, 09 September 2018
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*Strasbourg/Angelo Marcopolo/- While Noone among the 2 Traditional Groups of Parties can No more Govern Alone the Country (See Infra), a very Large Majority of about 59% of the Swedish People clearly Voted for the Right side of the Political spectrum, in Today's 2018 National Elections, leaving the Outgoing "Socialists" with one of the Worse Results in their long History.


With Only a Minority of about 40% each only, the Traditional "Left" (around the OutGoing "Socialists", etc), and the "Center-Right" (around the in-coming "Moderates", etc), became obviously Unable to form an Independent and Stable Government.


By Winning, for the First Time, about 18 % of the Voters (almost +5% More than before : the Biggest Advance Today), the atypical Rightists of "Swedish Democrats", may obviously become a Decisive Factor for the Shaping of a New Government.


Indeed, Together with the Center-Right "Alliance" of Parties, (led by the "Moderates" : almost 20%, who lost some - 3,5%), the Total of the Right Side of the Political Spectrum approaches a Record High of about 59% of the casted Votes.


Already, according even to Mainstream Press Medias, (such as "Bloomberg", "AFP", etc), the Call launched Tonight by the Leader of the "Swedish Democrats" towards his Collegue, the Leader of the "Moderates", in order to form a Unity of All the Right, despite alleged Hesitations of some, does not seem to be excluded at all from a fair possibility to be realized, in one way or another.


Particularly when Sweden is, Today, surrounded by a Norwegian and Danish "Examples" of various kinds of "Unity of all the Right", while an important Rightist Party participates, nowadays, even in the Finnish Government Coalition, in Addition to the Fact that, even all the EU, was and still is, this Year 2018, currently Chaired by other EU Member Countries with similar, "Unity of the Right" New Governments, such as Bulgaria (during 1- 6/2018) and Austria (from July up to December 2018 included).


Otherwise, Sweden might be Obliged either to go for anOther Election soon, (which might be even More inconclusive than this one, or More Leaning towards the Rightists, given also the Recent Trend of Developments, particularly in the Key Issue of Mass Asylum Seekers/Mass Irregular Migration, mainly through Turkey : See Infra), or seek a Shaky "Refuge" in a kind of "Gro-Ko" between Establisment's big Paties, probably Heading, then, towards a ...Finnish Example, i.e., with the Result to Arrive, Later-on, precisely at another "Unity of the Right" Coalition Government, with the Rightists having been, meanwhile, Strengthened, (as it happened at Helsinki)...


Significantly of the Overall Trend Nowadays, even among the Various Other, comparatively Smaller Political Parties, it's mainly the "Centrists" and the "ChristianDemocrats" who Grow, (more or less +2% More Votes, and +7 or +6 More MPs), while Both put a Stronger Critical Accent vis a vis the Latest Mass Migration, (the Centrists insisting on Cultural and Economic "Integration", while the ChristianDemocrats have just been Attracted by a New Leadership, among their former "Youth" Sector, who seem particularly Sharp in this kind of issues, and, more widely, on Conservative Values). In Addition, it's even a Tiny but New Political Party, "Alternative for Sweden", which was just been Obliged to Split, against their wish, from the Rightists of the "Swedish Democrats", only a few Months ago, being accused to lean even More towards the Right, but mainly formed by the former "Youth" of the "SD", in this case too : They got Only almost 1% this First Time, but they Bypassed another non-represented Grouplet, that of "Feminists", which was much Older than them)...


The Recent new Series of Deadly Islamist Terrorist Attacks, mainly in Germany, but also in France, the UK, the Netherlands etc., will probably accentuate Further, there and elsewhere in Europe, this kind of Collective Socio-Political Trend to Seek how to Protect EU Citizens from such awful and unprecedented Risks.

 

It's true that it's also, at least, 1 Small "Leftist" Party in Sweden which augments, Today, at about +2% its Votes. But it comes at the same moment that, f.ex., in Germany, even a New, atypical "Leftist" Party has reportedly just been Created and Started to evolve, inter alia, also in reaction to Recent Manoeuvers to throw a lot of Mass Asylum Seekers/Irregular Migrants, mainly arriving through Turkey, in areas of Poor Neighbourhoods, with the Double Risk to both create Dangerous "Ghettos", and/or to Hamper the everyday life of some already very Fragile, poor European People condemned to live there.

 

 

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New French EU affairs Minister Loiseau to EF on Salzburg EU Summit: Speak at the Right Moment

Written by ACM
Friday, 07 September 2018
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*Strasbourg/EuroFair/Angelo Marcopolo/- The new French Minister for EU affairs, Nathalie Loiseau, speaking here to "Eurofora", on the forthcoming EU Summit in Salzbourg (Austria), appeared very Careful, at least for the Moment, on which exactly would be France's main Aim and concrete proposals in the currently Burning Issue of Mass Asylum Seekers/Irregular Migrants, during that forthcoming Heads of State/Government top meeting in Austria, (which holds the rotating EU Prasidency for the period of July - December 2018), scheduled for September 19-20, i.e. practically in almost 12 Days Time.


In Fact, Loiseau appeared keen to be sure that this currently very Topical Issue, which notoriously Atttracts a lot of Press and Popular Attention still Nowadays, particularly at nearby Germany, but also in Sunday's Elections in Sweden, as well as in the Forthcoming, Crucial Election at Bavaria's Länder (Federated State/Region), should be Well Prepared.

In other words, as it appeared, by a coincidence, while she was Tasting an Original Strasbourg Beer offered et the Agricultural Stand of Strasbourg's 2018 Euro-Fair, the new French EU Minister, did ...Not Confuse between Strasburg's and Salzburg's Beers, pefering to taste each one's merits....  

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- For the time being, to be honest, "'I didn't come here in order to speak about that matter now" (the imminent Salzbourg's EU Summit), she acknowledged, as a part of her Reply to "Eurofora"s above-mentioned Question.


This appeared as an indirect, but Natural, Reference to the Fact that it's, precisely, in order "to Prepare the Salzbourg (EU) Summit", that French President Emmanuel Macron and German Chancellor Angie Merkel, were due to Meet, Exceptionally, at Marseille, Later Today Afternoon and Evening, (as Macron, indeed, Declared, then, from the outset : See Infra).


Thus, it's probably the Need to Fine-Tune the Franco-German cooperation on such Key EU Issues, that made Loiseau to, UnExpectedly, Change at the Last Minute the precise Hour of her Arrival Today in Strasbourg, putting everything 1 Hour Earlier than initially Scheduled this Morning, (i.e. 10 am, instead of 11 am), eventually in order to be able to Follow what would go on, in such matters, at that Franco-German Summit in Marseille, Later-on. And even Chancellor Merkel, in an unusual move, didn't officially confirm, to registered Journalists (including "Eurofora"), the precise Timing of her Visit to France, but Only very Early this Same Morning...


=> - However, the French Minister didn't exclude at all, (and, apparently, even Indicated, indirectly, but clearly),  that she might, eventually, Speak about the above-mentioned matter, perhaps "Next Week in Strasbourg", when she will visit  EU Parliament's Plenary Session, as she confirmed.         

    
 - In this regard, Loiseau pointed at Next Wednesday's Public Debate on the "State of the Union, with EU Commission's President, Jean-Claude Juncker", as she said earlier. (To which might be usefully added also the Visit of Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tripras, to Speak with MEPs on Tuesday, but also hold Meetings here from Monday Evening).    

           
The New French EU Minister had arrived Today to Strasbourg on the occasion of the Official Inauguration of the 2018 "Euro-Fair", (which, this year, honors a part of USA's modern History : See ...), i.e. the Number 1, well Established Collective Event, which Traditionally Marks the Start of a New Socio-Economic and partly Political Year in Strasbourg, Host of EU Parliament's full Weekly Plenaries, of the CoE, ECHR, EU Ombudsperson, Shenghen's Secretariat, "Euro-Corps" Army, etc, and is usually attended by a lot of Diplomats, EU/CoE Officials, National and Local/Regional Authorities, Businessmen, Medias, etc., while also Attracting more than 180.000 Visitors, during 10 Days, (this time : 7 - 17 September 2018).

 

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- And she even, spontaneously Spoke, on this same occasion, also about certain Other Current EU Affairs (Comp. Infra).


+ As they had already done, (and, on this occasion, also Replying to various "Eurofora"s Questions on Topical European Issues), inter alia, also, recently, f.ex., CoE's Secretary General, Thornbjorn JAGLAND, former Prime Minister of Norway, on 2014, (See: ...), the current French President Emmanuel MACRON, when he was Economy Minister, on 2015, (See: ...), the former Prime Minister of France, Manuel VALLS, on 2016, (See: ... ), and the Experienced former Defense Minister, and now Europe and Foreign Affairs Minister, JeanYves LE DRIAN, on 2017, (See: ..).               


- It's true that, even now, the New French EU Affairs Minister did not completely shy away from clearly evoking several Topical European Issues, more or less in Relation also with the above-mentioned Mass Asylum Seekers/Irregular Migrants problem :


-F.ex., Loiseau naturally acknowledged that there is, Nowadays, a "Migration Challenge" in Europe.


- But she, immediately afterwards, claimed that there would be "No more a Migration Crisis", since the Total Number of New Arrivals would have become Smaller than what it had been just 1 Year Before.


+ Moreover, she also Stressed that, for the French Government, "'Europe should Neither practice an <<Open Doors>> policy, Nor become something like <<a Fortress>> !"...


- "We should Welcome those who are Obliged to Flee" Oppression and other Dangers, "but also Better Monitor our (EU's) External Borders", she characrteristically said, while placing a special Accent on the "Need  to Protect Europe's Borders", (See also Infra).


- Also "Because EU Citizens are Raising Questions" about that, she pointed out.


+ At the Same Time, Loiseau urged Europeans to "Not Resign in front of Nationalist movements", "Neither become Euro-Naive, and Federalists without limits", etc.


=> Finally, she Concluded her Speech, earlier this Morning, at the Inauguration of Strasbourg's EuroFair, (Comp. Supra), by Warning that, in the forthcoming, "EU Elections of 2019", (i.e. when Many and Various Voices will be Heard), European Citizens would have to "Make an Historic Choice".

 

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(Minister Loiseau : Attention at which Bird's song to hear in the forthcoming 2019 EU Elections !)


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But Loiseau, apparently, could Not say More Now about France's concrete Aims at the forthcoming EU Summit in Salzbourg (Austria), since, inter alia, the above-mentioned Top Franco-German Summit in Marseille, with President Macron and Chancellor Merkel, which was due, precisely, "to Prepare Salzburg"'s Summit, (as the French President stressed from the outset : Comp. Supra), only Started at about 5 p.m., and Extended all across a quite Long period of Time, until a scheduled Diner for 7.30 p.m. I.e., Too Late in order to eventually Find out, Today, what the 2 Leaders had exactly Agreed upon...

 

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- However, already from the Beginning, Macron at least mentioned, during Statements made this Afternoon at about 5 p.m., that, in Addition to the "Preparation of the Future", by Continuing to work "on the Mesenberg's Agenda", agreed Before, this Franco-German Summit was going "also" to "prepare Salzburg's (EU) Summit", concerning certain "Big Problems of Nowadays : Obviously the Migrationj Challenge" : In this regard, "We want to make, out of the Mediterranean Sea, a Chance, Not a Fear", as he characteristically said.


+ On this same occasion, Merkel reminded that "Marseille is a European City, which has also been the Cultural Capital of Europe back on 2013", (Pointing at an Exceptional Event, that "Eurofora" had been Invited by the French Authorities to Cover, together with other selected Journalists, already from 2012, when we Published, a Long Press Report with the Heading : - "Culture or Barbary" !  (See : http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/eu2013marseillecultureorbarbary.html).


- "On Migration, ...Germany and France have the Same Kind of Approach to the Problems, where Europe Must Assert itself", (i.e. Prove what it is Able to do), and "we must work further on Europe's Sovereignty", the German Chancellor Concluded this Afternoon.


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+ Concerning, more particularly, Macron, the French President had, Already Yesterday, on September 6, 2018, an opportunity to expressed his view, on that Issue, while holding an Exceptional Joint Meeting with the Prime Ministers of BENELUX Countries, (Belgium, Luxembourg and Netherlands); Michel, Bettel and Rutte :  


- "The Issue of Migration, ...lies at the core of European Actuality, since many Months", observed the French President from the outset.


 - Pleading Both for "Values" and "Efficiency", in that matter, Macron reiterated his "Opposition to Nationalists", as he said, accusing them to be "Contrary to our (EU's) Values, Because they Refuse to Welcome Anyone, and to Respect the Right to Asylum", particularly "if they consist into saying that whoever arrives in Europe is Unwelcome and will Not be Accepted" : "That's Not the History of our Europe", he stressed. "But, they are also InEfficient, Because ... they Never Agree", between the "Nationalists of the Country of Arrival", and "the Nationalists of the Country which shoud show its Solidarity", as he pointed out.


- On the Contrary, "we work together, since several Weeks, .... in order to obtain a European Solution, which would be more Efficient" : This, practically, includes, f.ex., "to continue cooperating with the Countries of Origin and of Transit ; provide for a Future of the Young People inside their Countries of Origin", "Strengthen the Fight against the Smugglers", etc. : "Because ... Europe has to be More Strict, on this matter, and Better Protect our Borders", Macron stressed.


+ This includes also "the Principles of Responsibility and Solidarity", he added : - "Responsibility means that the Country of the 1st Entry into Shenghen Area, canNot elude its Duties", since, "according to the International Humanitarian Law, it's the Nearest SeaPort which must be reached". And "Solidarity means that we canNot Abandon any Country to assume Alone all those Arrivals, but", on the Contrary, "it Needs a Financial Solidarity", and "a European Solidarity in order to Return Back Home those who won't get any Asylum", he explained.


=> "So, it's on these Basis, that we are going to Support Together certain Concrete Solutions for the (EU) Summit of Salzbourg", Macron had Concluded, Yesterday in Luxembourg.


 + "Now, it's about advancing in the Implementation and Concrete Solutions on these Basis", he pointed out, without explaining furher details...


But there wasn't yet any Official Statement on the Outcome of his subsequent Talks with German Chancellor Angie Merkel, Later this Evening at Marseille, (Comp. Supra)...


It's also True that this Delicate and Multifacet Issue of Mass "Migration", often faces Various Influences by the still On-Going, and sometimes UnPredictable, relevant Socio-Political Developments, including, f.ex., among others, also the Results f the Elections in one or another key Country, (f.ex., nowadays : Sweden, to be soon followed by Bavaria, etc), the Number and Circonstances of various kinds of Aggressions eventually committed by some Non-European Mass Migrants, of the Kind recently Send to Europe by Turkish Smugglers, (i.e. since 2015-2016), etc.


I.e. it depends also from what relevant events might, eventually, occurn might happen, or not, during the Next 12 Days... I.e., from "the Right Moment" (Comp. Supra).

 

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The official presentation of a "Program" respecting People's choices voted in the June 7, 2009 EU Elections, to be debated in EU Council and EU Parliament during its 1st Session on July in Strasbourg, is the No 1 Priority, according to Democratic principles, for the Franco-German axis, said the main winners at the ballot box, French President Nicolas Sarkozy and German Chancellor Angie Merkel.

They stressed  that the New EU Commission's President must have a "Program" in favor of an EU which "protects" its Citizens, regulates financial markets and aims at a "Political" Europe" : a wording they have used as incompatible with Turkey's controversial EU bid.

They also declared ready for a "political" endorsment of "Mr. Barroso's candidacy" in June's EU Council, considering that an official decision would have to be made after EU Parliament's debates and votes, possibly from next month (July), with the legally necessary final acceptance shortly after Lisbon Treaty's entry into force, hoped for September or October.


- "A Program, and Mr. Barroso" : This resumes, in substance, the anouncements made by Sarkozy and Merkel, on the question of current EU Commission's President, Barroso's declared wish to succeed to himself for a second mandate, to be extended during the following 5 years.

 In their 1st meeting after EU Elections, they observed that "the Franco-German axis counted in European Elections' campaign... But, we both keep a realistic view : We saw the number of those who abstained, and we must absolutely give them an answer. We also see the disilusionment of an important number of Europeans vis a vis Europe, and we are aware of the responsibilities we have".

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 - The "Duty" of the new EU Commission's President, after June 7, 2009 EU Elections' result, "is to act for a Europe which protects the Europeans, to commit himself into working for a better Regulation of Financial transactions, ... and to have a Political will for Europe", underlined Sarkozy.

Therefore, "we have asked M. Barroso... to clarify, to officialy present the intentions he has", he anounced.

- "We want to speak also about the Programme", explained Merkel.

- "It's important that for the next EU Parliament's mandate (2009-2014) we take the right Decisions for Europe.  Obviously on Persons, but mainly Decisions on Issues", she stressed.

- "It's not simply a question of a Person, it's also a question of a Programme". We are "really asking Mr. Barroso to commit himself on a Program, and on Principles, on Values", Sarkozy added.

EU President-in-office, Czech Prime Minister Jan Fischer, accepted the Franco-German stance :

- "Barroso must present his Programme. The Czech Presidency agrees with that", Fischer reportedly said later, after meeting Sarkozy.

But Press reports from Brussels claimed that Barroso had preferred to be officially appointed by EU Council since June, (i.e. next week), "because this was implied by the current Treaty of Nice, according to him", and considered any delay until the possible ratification of the new, Lisbon Treaty on September/October, as "undemocratic".

- "At any case, independently of what Germany and France ask, it's also EU Parliament's wish". "We shall propose Mr Barroso's candidacy... But even in the framework of Nice Treaty, EU Parliament has to be associated in this Decision", the French President observed.

If this is correctly done, then "we support Mr. Barroso's candidature", and "if the (EU) Parliament agrees, we might ratify this decision since July", (i.e. next month), they both said.

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- "France and Germany support Baroso's candidacy, But we want to speak also on the Program. We believe that this Program should be established in close cooperation with EU Parliament, and that's why we have followed an appropriate way", said Merkel.  - If EU Parliament wants, this election can take place on July,  but this must be done in full agreement.

- "We shall support Mr. Barroso's candidacy, without doubt", said Sarkozy. "But we have asked from Mr. Barroso, as I told him yesterday, to put into detail.. his intentions, at the eve of his 2nd mandate, if the situation avails itself.


    France and Germany "don't want to take an Official Legal Decision by writting" during "the next (EU) Council" (on June 18-19), declared Sarkozy.  Because they prefer, at this stage, only "a Political decision" on June, "so that we (EU Council) can work together with EU Parliament", which starts to meet only Next Month, since July in Srasbourg, "leaving a Legal decision by writting for later".

    - "If the Conditions are fuillfiled in EU Parliament, we (EU Council) are ready to give the agreement and make it offficial", said Merkel

    - "But, now we are working in the base of Nice Treaty. If tommorow we want to work in the spirit of Lisbon Treaty, we have to find a proper way", she added.

    - "Of course it's Legally complicated, because we are going to make a Political proposal to the forthcoming Council, for an EU Commission's President, on the basis of Nice Treaty : So, we (EU Council) will not appoint the Commissioners. Only the President.  If EU Parliament agrees, it could endorse this position on July", explained Sarkozy.

    But, on Autumn, "if Ireland ratifies Lisbon Treaty, there will be, at any case, a 2nd Decision, to appoint the Commission's President, this time on the basis of Lisbon treaty, and then, we, the EU Member States, would have to appoint (also) the EU Commissioners", he added.

    As for the precise Timing :  - "Everything is suspended until the Irish vote... Now, we must all make everything possible to help Ireland to say "Yes"" to Lisbon Treaty... The Irish Referendum, ..will take place either on September or on October. It's a Question which depends on the Irish. And,  then, we shall have the Choice of the Candidates for the permanent Institutions of Europe".

    However, "if Ireland says No, we, French and Germans, have to assume our responsibilities, and we'll do so", he concluded.

    But British and Swedish governments were reportedly eager to have a final EU Council decision on Barroso since this month, on June's European Council. While the other EU Member Countries are divided, several of them preferring to wait until EU Parliament pronounces itself, on July, and/or until Lisbon Treaty might be ratified by Ireland at the beginning of the Autumn. Barroso's current mandate ends on November.

    There are also various, contradictory and/or unpredictable reactions inside EU Parliament vis a vis Barroso's wish to continue a 2nd mandate, because many MEPs are openly or secretly opposed, reluctant, or hesitating.

    In the biggest EU Countries, as France and Germany, EU Citizens voted on June 2009 EU Elections for a renovated, non-technocratic but Political Europe which cares for its Citizens, with an Identity, Values and Borders, declared incompatible with Turkey's controversial EU bid, by mainstream, pro-European Governing Parties. Similar choices were also supported in several other small or medium EU Countries.

    On the contrary, whenever, in other Countries, Governing and other mainstream Parties didn't make these choices or eluded them, EU Citizens massively voted for euro-Sceptics whenever they were the only ones to to promise anti-bureacratic change and oppose Turkey's demand to enter into the EU, (f.ex. in the UK, Netherlands, etc).

    It's seems to be an Open Question whether Sarkozy and Merkel's conditions will be really accepted by Barroso, who was appointed on 2004 in a different political context, (with Socialist Prime Ministers in Germany, France, etc), had rejected in the Past the idea of EU becoming "equal to the USA" as "ridiculous", and pushed for Turkey's contoversial EU bid, trying to "soften" or contain the changes desired by the People who voted for Merkel and Sarkozy with another policy vis a vis Turkey on 2005 in Germany and on 2007 in France, as they did all over Europe on 2009.

    In addition to many EPP Governments, it's 3 remaining Socialist Prime Ministers : Gordon Brown in the UK, Zapatero in Spain, and Socrates in Prortugal, who support Barroso, as well as Liberal Swedish Prime Minister Reinfeldt. But their Parties lost the June 2009 EU Elections.

    Questioned whether there was still "Time" for "other" possible "Candidates", Sarkozy and Merkel did not deny, nor made any comment on that, but simply said that "it's not for us to make publicity for any candidates. We anounced our choice ("A Program, and Mr. Barroso"). But we respect any other candidate".

    Among various other names cited are former Belgian Prime Minister Verhofstadt, former UNO's Human Rights Commissioner Mary Robinson of Ireland, Italian former EU Commission's vice-President Monti, etc. Meanwhile, Luxembourg's PM Juncker, (who had been unanimously accepted by EU Council for EU Commission's Presidency on 2004, but refused), announced his intention to resign from "EuroGroup"'s Chair. Thus, he might be available for another Top EU job.

    As "EuroFora"'s "opinion" said (See publication dated 9/6/09) : - "If the current candidates (i.e. Barroso, etc) to the Top EU jobs promise and guarantee to respect People's democratic choices, then, it's OK".

"Otherwise, Europe must find new candidates, really motivated and able to implement these democratic choices of the People."

    Because, "in Democracy, the forthcoming choices for EU's Top Jobs,...should be made according to EU Citizens' Votes in June 7, 2009 European Elections, and main EU Governments' strategic policies".
        

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