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G7 or G8 ? Why Italy PM Flip-floped on Russia ? Trump (eve of Korea RDV): -"We have a World to run !

Written by ACM
Friday, 08 June 2018
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*Strasbourg/Critical News-ViewPoint/-  New Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte's "flip-flop" on Russia's return back to a fully-fledged "G-8", instead of the current, curtailed and diminished "G-7", (provoked since 2014 by Former POTUS Barack Hussein Obama's "Miss Nuland"-monitored aufull Mess in Ukraine, previously a Peaceful and promising, European Culture Country), is not clear :


- Didn't the Italian People's large Majority vote to put, at last, an End to "Sanctions" against Russia, which Divided the European Continent and still Limit its Economic/Scientific and Technological Development, (as even the New Rome Government's explicitly Agreed Program reads) ?


- Why Turkey, which is notoriously accustomed to do very much Worse things than Russia, (from Genocides, to "Ethnic Cleansings", Military Invasions/Occupations, Massive and brutal Violations of Human Rights, local/regional and national Democracy trampled underfoot, Armed Bullying and War Threats, etc), is getting, these same years, instead of "Sanctions", on the Contrary, ...+3,5 Billions € in full Grants each Year, from EU Taxpayers' Money, (in addition to its "usual" 1 Billion €, i.e. a bulk of more than +4,5 Billions € in yearly Grants), while also being still Invited to "G-20" Summits ?...


- Most Italian Newspapers were proudly publishing Frontpage Headline News on Conte's endorsement of US President Trump's call for Russia to get back Home inside a "G-8", when, suddenly, it was announced that, in fact, at the last minute, Conte would have yielded under pressure...


But Don Trump's earlier relevant statement also, significantly, stressed that, in fact, - "We have a World to run !"


And he, notoriously, said that, by a Double Coincidence :


-  Both the Same Day that Deadly Islamist Terrorists of ISIL's Cowards who Target even innocent Civilian People, after a Recent Resurgence of a New Series of Bloody Attacks throughout Europe, in Afghanistan, etc., (since the Diversion provoked by Turkey's Military Invasion and Occupation of Syria's Kurdish Canton of Afrin on 2018), re-started anew to Invade and Occupy a City, near Syria's Borderline with Iraq;


- and at the Eve of the forthcoming, Crucial Singapore Summit with Northern Korea's Leader Kim Jong-un, scheduled for the 12th of June, from which depends if the World will manage to make an Historic breakthrough for Peace and stability, or fall back to an even more Dangerous Cold War era with the addition of unstable Nuclear Weapons' Tensions.


In such a Context, wouldn't a "traditional" fully-fledged "G-8", bringing Back Russia Together with the EU, USA, Canada and Japan, (if not, sooner or later, even a New ..."G-9", bringing In also China - as, inter alia, also f.ex. France had suggested as a Possible development, already as early as since the May 2011 "G-8" Summit in Deauville, during a Press Conference), be obviously Helpful in order to turn this mechanism into a Really "Global" one, and, eventually, give a Hand for a Succesful Preparation of that Crucial USA - N.Korea Summit, from which depends Global Peace and prevention of Nuclear Weapons' course threatening desastrous clashes ?


The Reply is naturaly "Yes", since this is, in practice, a Last Chance for Global Diplomacy among the Biggest Countries on Earth, (with the EU playing also a Useful Role in World Affairs), to try, all Together, to Help Save our Planet from UnPrecedented Risks of Nuclear Tensions and Threats.


Where is, these same Days, Russian President Vladimir Putin ? Visiting ...China, to meet with President Xi Jiping, inaugurate a High-Speed Train Link, etc. But, wouldn't it be Better, if these Leaders (notoriously Influent also vis a vis Northern Korea, etc), were, Now, Meeting and Exchanging Together with the EU, USA, Japan and Canada, etc., inter alia, also on How to Help, all Together, to Prepare a Succesful Negotiation and Deal with N.Korea's President Kim, on the occasion of the forthcoming, Crucial Singapore Meeting with USA's new President Don Trump, able to Safeguard World Peace ?


German Chancelor Angie Merkel, certainly, cannot forget that her initial Mentor, and Long-Time close Ally, the Historic former Chancelor Helmut Kohl, who playe a Key Role Both for the ReUnification of Europe after 1989, and EU Integration in the 1990ies, had notoriously Regretted and Criticized the Exclusion of Russia from the former "G-8" Summit format, (as f.ex. that of Heiligendam, back on 2007, that Merkel Chaired hershelf : Comp. "Eurofora" co-Founder's NewsReports from the spot, then Published mainly by "TCWeekly", etc).


Neither could, the French President Emmanuel Macron ignore his Historic predecessor, General De Gaulle's famous Plaidoyerie for "a Great Europe, extending from tha Atlantic Ocean, up to the Ural Mountains", and well beyond...


And the current "G-7" Host Country, Canada, also certainly canNot Neglect the Fact that, (in addition to Japan, etc), it's also, f.ex., ...Toronto City which is much Closer to Northern Korea's eventual Nuclear Rockets, than USA's Washington D.C. ...


So that, in fact, almost Everybody involved in those "Global" Summits, has, in one way or another, a Real Interest and Duty to become Helpful for World Peace, by contributing whatever is possible, appropriate and necessary for that Noble Aim, in real practice, hic and nunc.

 

 

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Great East Region President Rottner to EF: Boost EU Transport Links "Brussels-Strasbourg-Geneva+"

Written by ACM
Friday, 08 June 2018
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*Strasbourg/Press Club/Angelo Marcopolo/- Replying to an "Eurofora"s Question, the New President of Strasbourg's "Great East" Region, Jean Rottner, stressed the Importance of "European Corridors" in the Development and Valorisation of Transport LInks, particularly between the Cities which the most Host European, PanEuropean and/or International Organisations.

 - "Eurofora" has Questioned Rottner, during a Press-Lunch on Transports' Strategic Policy Choices (discussed nowadays also with the Civil Society), organised Today Noon by Strasbourg's Press Club,  about his View on the Fact that this New, (and much Bigger than in the Past), "Great East" Region, facilitates Strasbourg's location Between Brussels and Luxembourg, at its West Side, and Geneva, at its Eastern Side :
 

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 >>> i.e., Potentialy Linking Together the Headquarters of EU Commission, EU Council, NATO, EU Court of Justice, EU Parliament, Paneuropean CoE, ECHR, EuroCorps, Shenghen, and several UNO's Bodies (particularly in Human Rights but also Economy, Telecoms, etc) as well as the WTO, ILO, a.o., throughout a kind of "Europe in the World" Pathway, Unique in the entire Globe. (With the Only Exception of the Washington D.C. - New York close links in the USA, in a lesser extend : f.ex. between IMF, World Bank's and UNO's Headquarters there).

 

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- President Rottner replied to "Eurofora"s Question Positively, in substance, mainly by Stressing, First of all, the great Importance that he gives for Strasbourg's "Great East" Region role in Transports, to what he named as "European Corridors" in general, as a matter of Principle.

 

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- Naturally, this goes, particularly, for the EU Corridor Linking to Brussels, which is of Major Importance, underlined the French Politician, (who was, for a Long Time, Mayor of Mulhouse City, facing Basel at nearby Switzerland, and, therefore, is an Ideal person also for the Brussels - Strasbourg - Geneva link evoked by "Eurofora" . Comp. Supra).


Traditionally, Brussels can already be Linked by quite Good Railway transports to Strasbourg and Geneva, either through Paris (France) or through Frankfurt (Germany). But, in both cases, Luxembourg is Ommitted, and a Longer Zig-Zag becomes necessary, Westwards or Eastwards, (respectively). While, on the Contrary, a Real Brussels - Luxembourg - Strasbourg - Geneva Railway Link would be, in principle, Direct, and, thus, comparatively, much more short and Straight.


+ Moreover, the European Transport Corridors which are Interesting for us, (i.e. Strasbourg's new and much bigger, "Great East" Region) are "Multi-Modal" : I.e. they include, well beyond Airplanes and Railways, also Car Highways, Bus, River Ship Transports, etc., Rottner went on to add.


++ Last, but not least, for us it's Not a Problem at all if such Corridors might, eventually, be developped, Partly, at the One Side of Rhine River (i.e. in France), or at the Other Side, (i.e. Germany), as long as they are Inter Connected and Interoperable, facilitating "Complementarity", as he pointed out.


+++ President Rottner had already pointed, earlier, at "the Centrality of Strasbourg", as he called the Fact that this City is located at the CrossRoads of various European/Paneuropean routes, being a Key part of EU's Core area, as well as, at the Wider Potential that the City gets from its New - and much Bigger - French Region in which it is included :


- "The Great East (new, Wider Region) is Strasbourg's Chance !", he characteristically stressed, mainly pointing at the Fact that, by InterLinking 5 European Countries, at EU's Core, (France, Germany, Switzerland, Belgium and Luxembourg), the "Great East" Region makes possible Manifold Transports' InterConnexions.

 

 
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Thus, f.ex., anOther European "Corridor" for Strategic Railway and other Transport links crossing Strasbourg, notoriously is the Paris - Budapest "Magistrale" Plan, (already endorsed, in principle, by the EU, several Years Earlier), which Connects also Munich, Wien and possibly Bratislava, etc. From a Geo-Political point of view, very probably, its actual Realisation may depend from Possible Developments concerning possibly a closer European Integration towards the adjacent Western Balkan Countries, (since this Leads very Near to Zagreb, Ljubljana, but also Belgrad, etc), in the foreseable Future.


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This is Added, obviously, also to a Madrid - Paris - Strasbourg- (Berlin)-Prague - Warsaw - Minsk - Moscow Axis, throughout almost all the European Continent, which can, naturally also go via Madrid - Paris - Strasbourg - Berlin - Saint Petersburg/Moscow, serving, additionaly, as the Strategic Central Backbone of Various InterConnections heading towards Several different Directions Around it.

 

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+ Another kind, River Ship Transports' PanEuropean "Centrality" of Strasbourg's area, can bring together Rhone - Rhine - Danube Rivers, interLinking the Mediterranean to the Northern and Black Sea, (with Strasbourg:Kehl's Ports etc. : See seveal relevant "Eurofora"s NewsReports on that Specific Issue, of Strategic potential Importance also for EU's direct Energy Supplies). 

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Significantly, Rottner was Together with Strasbourg's Euro-Metropole President Robert Herrmann, (confirming once again that they cultivate a Good Working Cooperation, despite the Center-Right and the Center-Left Political origin affiliations of each one of them, which had already started with Senator Kennel, former President of Lower Rhine's Department), who has already Expressed, previously, in Reply to anOther "Eurofora"s Question, during another Press Conference in the Recent Past, precisely, his Readiness to Consider Useful Comparisons and Develop New Relations between European/PanEuropean/International Non-Capital Cities, such as Strasbourg and Geneva, but also New York, Saint Petersburg, Sanghai, etc, (See, f.ex., at : ..., etc).

 

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Herrmann, Today, Replying to anOther Topical "Eurofora"s Question on Key Transports' Choices, (See: ..., etc), also said, in Substance, that he personaly was in favor of Both Developing More and Better Transport Links, (from Airplane, Rail or Bus until Bicycle, including Electronic, but also, whenever Necessary, Car Highways, etc), while also Acknowledging that, sometimes, certain valuable Natural, Cultural and/or Historic Landscapes/Monuments, particularly of this Core European Area, between France, Germany and Switzerland, etc, should be Protected, as much as Possible, (including, f.ex. by the use of "PlexiGlass" Technologies, as it has been done in Luxembourg City, etc), on the condition that all sides accept to Negociate, as he said. (Something which, obviously, leaves open some still on-going Debates on Highway Projects, whose Plan's lines might have been irrevocably Drawn by a Private Company -sometimes Non-European- which has signed a Contract with the National State, even if it's also a Fact that it systematically includes some Crystal-clear Clauses about Nature, Culture, and Balanced concrete Choices, especially through adequate and sufficient Protective/Corrective Measures to imagine in each case. Comp., f.ex.: ... ).

 


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Slovenian People Voted for Center-Right Majority (Headed by f. twice Prime Minister+EU Chair Jansa)

Written by ACM
Sunday, 03 June 2018
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*Strasbourg/Angelo Marcopolo/- An Absolute Majority, (of about 48 MPs out of a Total of 90), in Slovenia's Parliament can be, normaly, reached by the Center-Right, Headed by the Experienced former Twice Prime Minister Janez Jansa, (and former EU President in office: See Infra), whose "SDS" Party came Clearly 1st in Today's National Elections for the Period of 2018-2023.


The move is closely Watched both by European and Global Players, as it seems also Related to Wider, New Political Trends, during the run up to the Forthcoming, Crucial EU Parliament's Elections, scheduled in Less than a Year's Time, on May 2019, and to Different Strategy Options, currently "Hotly" Debated throughout Many EU Member Countries, (See Infra).


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    >>> Indeed, according to the Full Results, Jansa's Center-Right Party "SDS", which came 1st currently by the Biggest Number of MPs (25+), may Lead an Absolute Majority Coalition that could be Formed f.ex. with the "ChristianDemocrats/New Slovenia" ("NSI") Party which has now 7 MPs, and the so-called "Rightists" (in fact Atypical Right) of the "SNS" Party (which just re-Entered Parliament after years of absence) with 4 MPs, Extended to an a priori Logical Deal with the Centrists of the "SMC" Party (10 MPs). I.e. resulting into a Group of 46 MPs, out of the 90 that has in Total the Slovenian Parliament.


+ Moreover, given also the Links between the Slovenian Right with the Hungarian Right of Victor Orban, and the Italian new "Atypical" Coalition between the "5 Stars Movement" and Mateo Savini's "Lega" (mainly at the North, and particularly in the NE Region around Venice's Adriatic Coasts), it seems Probable that Jansa might also receive the Endorsement of the + 2 Italian and Hungarian Minority MPs, thus making his Coalition Grow up to a Stronger 48 (out of 90) MPs Absolute Majority.


++ Last, but not least, Slovenian People's 2018 Real Choice for the Right Side of the Political Spectrum, in Fact, Goes even Further : The Biggest Number of Votes among those Parties which did Not Cross the 4% Threshold required in order to Enter the Parliament went, by far, to the Conservative "Slovenian People's Party" (SLS : which had won MPs in Coalition with the "ChristianDemocrats" in the Past, f.ex. on 2008), Getting 2,7% with 23.131 Votes, (while, among Various Others, in Comparison,  f.ex. the "Greens" got Only 1% and 9.407 Votes, and the "Left Unity" Only 0,5% and 4,933 Votes, etc)...


Interestingly, the "SLS"' Conservatives, (after Reaching a Pic High in the 1996 Elections with 19 MPs), they have Already succesfully Cooperated with the "Christian Democrats" of "New Slovenia" ("NSI") Party, as Early as since 2000, in the National Parliament Elections, (when they had got 8 MPs), and again in the 2014 European Elections, when they Won, Together, about 17 % of the Votes, (Holding, Since then, 2 MEPs in EU Parliament).


Concerning that  "ChristianDemocrats-New Slovenia" ("NSI") Party, it has just Won +2 MPs more, (Getting 7 MPs in all), as it Regularly does, already during the 3 Latest elections :  2011, 2014 and 2018. It is represented in EU Parliament also by the former Prime Minister of Slovenia (1996-1998) Aloisj Peterle, himself a former Foreign Minister and Prime Minister, recently Top MEP and Head of EU - FYROM Delegation, who has given various Responses to "Eurofora"s Questions on Topical Issues, (including on our Project for EU Citizens Debates with MEPs Before they take Decisions affecting their Lives ad/or Society at large, (See, f.ex., at : http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/topmeppeterleoncitizensdebatesbeforeeudecisions.html, etc).


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 * However, it's also true that an Exceptionaly Big Number of Various, even "Original", Political Parties took part in this 2018 Elections :  26 in all (10 with MPs and 16 WithOut), among which, were Included Also 10 "New" Parties, (9 withOut MPs, and 1 with MPs).


Among them, those Small Parties which were Excluded from Parlementarian Representation (16), just Because they didn't cross the Threshhold with a required Minimum of 4%), got, in Total, some 12,69% of the Votes !


 I.e. even More than the SECOND BIG Party in Slovenia, (12,66% : "LMS"), a New one, which bears the Name of a former Comedian, recently Mayor of a Village and shortly Failed Candidate for the Presidency, reportedly in favor of Private Pensions, Abortion, Homosexuality and Legalizing Cannabis, etc, Marjan Sarec, for whom Left-leaning "NYT" Establishment's Newspaper sees "Prime Ministerial" Ambitions...


Sarec is on record for having Excluded any Coalition with "Populists" (as those of the former Twice Prime Minister and current Winner of the 2018 Election, Jansa), and even for Calling to Aggravate even Further the above-mentioned, Record-High Exclusion of Small Parties from the Parliament (about 12,7% of People's Votes), by Imposing an Even Higher Threshhold Level, Before they might be Allowed to have any MP.


But the Non-Represented Small Parties, which, taken together with the Invalid/Blanc Votes, Gathered Now More than 116.000 + Registered Voters, (i.e. Higher even than the 2nd Big Party, LPSarec's Votes : some 111.000), Include not only 9 New Parties, Totaling almost 13% of the Casted Votes, but also Many "Atypical" Parties, such as, f.ex., "for a Healthy" or "Fair Society", "Good Country", anOther "Journalist ...Pozar",  "Save ...from Elite and Tycoons", "Pirate Party", etc. : I.e. a Lot of Converging Facts which Clearly Indicate a Currently Growing Popular Trend for Citizens to Search for Something New, Original and which would be Really Able to Protect and Promote the People's Main Interests Nowadays.


A Recent Phenomenon, which was also Oberved, until now, Not Only in Slovenia, but Also Elsewhere in Europe, f.ex., among Others, also in Greece (between 2011 - 2017+), in the Czech Republic, (particularly in the Latest Elections there : See ...), etc.


=> Therefore, Frontrunner Janez Jansa, Leader of the currently 1st Bigger Party "SDS", from the Center-Right, should be Well Advised, (even, and particularly, in case of eventual New Elections, if a Stable Majority might, perhaps, be Not Found this time), to Search Well for any Real Possibility for Coalition with Like-Minded People, Now and in the foreseeable Future, even if, a priori, they might, eventually, Appear to be of this or that kind of "Atypical" trend, in surface : In Fact, what Counts Most is the Substance of the Main Issues, (as, inter alia, f.ex., the recent Italian New Government Coalition between the Atypical "5 Stars Movement" and "Lega", Based on an Agreed Joint Program Focused on Key Issues, also shows, in one way or another).


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Jansa is well Known personaly to "Eurofora", already since his role on Past rotating EU Presidency as Early as already since 2008, (particularly via EU Parliament in Strasbourg), but also during his frequent Participations to the ChristianDemocrats/EPP Party's Summits until recently in Brussels, (See, inter alia, also, f.ex. : http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/eustrategyongreeceshengenmediterranean.html, etc).
He was notoriously Supported, this time, also by the popular, 3-times in a row re-Elected Hungarian Prime Minister Victor Orban (in his 4rth Term since 2000), particularly on the Topical European Issue of recent Mass Asylum Seekers/Irregular Migrants since 2015/2016 mainly through Turkey, etc, and other Topical matters.


And, by a in interesting Topical Coincidence, this June 2018 Slovenian Election's Results came just a Few Days After "Eurofora" had, precisely, Raised the Question of Victor Orban's Popular Choices in certain Key Policies Nowadays, in view of the Fothcoming, crusial EU Parliament's Elections of May 2019, to the Experienced President of the ChristianDemocrat/EPP Party (HeadQuartered in Brussels), former Long-Time Strasbourg's Top MEP, Joseph Daul, on May 29, (See: ...).


But the overall Electoral Victory of the Slovenian Center-Right will certainly be Welcomed, inter alia, also by USA President Don Trump's Wife Melania, who personaly stems from Slovenia...

 

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EU Ombudsman O'Reilly on EF project (Citizens - EU Decision-Makers Debates Before Acts): BIG ISSUE !

Written by ACM
Friday, 01 June 2018
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*Strasbourg/EU-Parliament/Angelo Marcopolo/- A Key EU Personality : the EU Ombudswoman (alias : EU Defensor of Citizens' Rights), Emily O'Reilly, from Ireland, Replying to an "Eurofora" Question about Our Project for mainly Web-Based EU Citizens' Public Debates with EU Decision-Makers (as, f.ex. MEPs, etc) Before Taking Measures which Affect their Lives and/or Society at large, observed that it's, indeed, "a Huge Issue", but also "a Matter of Political Will", for which, Nowadays, the Doors "May be Open !", (See Infra).

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(Exceptionaly Long Queu waiting to Enter EU Parliament's Building in Strasbourg for 2018 EYE Event, after a RainStorm Hindered to use an initially prepared Campus)

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    O'Reilly was speaking in Strasbourg, between the conclusion of EU Parliament's May Plenary Session and the Beginning of "EYE" Annual Event, with the participation of Thousands of Young People from all over Europe, President Tajani and other MEPs, EU Experts, etc., in EU Parliament's Building here for 2 Days, Friday and Saturday, 1+2 June 2018, which is the last Big Event before the Electoral Campaign for the forthcoming May 2019 European Elections : I.e. amidst such an ambiant noise (given the Popular Success of this Event, as a relevant Photo clearly shows, that she had to Carefully concentrate her Attention in order to clearly hear what "Eurofora" had to say)...


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  - In "Eurofora"s Question to EU Ombudswoman, we observed that O'Reilly has "Recently spoken very much about the Transparency of the (EU) Decision-Making process, and, also, about the Participation of Citizens and Civil Society", (already since Early February 2018: See "Eurofora"s NewsReport at ...). But, as you know, onOther Aspect of Lisbon Treaty's Article 11, speaks about a Possibility for "Regular Dialogue", as well as about the "Expression" of EU Citizens' Views, and "Exchanges" on the "Acts" of the EU Authorities, including, f.ex., EU Parliament, and others.


=> - "Do you think that it would be Good, on this (Legal) Basisn to Initiate, (in the "Softest" and Easier posssible way for all), Public Debates between EU Citizens, Civil Society, etc., and, f.ex., EU Parliament's key MEPs, Before Decisions are taken, which may Affect their Lives, and/or All the Society ?", we queried.


 "In this way, f.ex. EU Parliament could have a View of EU Citizens' opinions on the Issues on which it might Debate and/or Vote. It could also give an Opportunity to EU Decision-Makers to Explain the Reasons for which they might take one or another Decision", "Eurofora" observed.


 - "F.ex., a Week Before the Plenary, EU Citizens might have a Chance, thanks also to Digital Technologies, to Express their Views and hold a Debate, eventually we practicaly observed.


- New French President Emanuel Macron has just Told Us that he would be in Favour of such a Development, extending even After the forthcoming EU Parliament's Elections of May 2019, as well as some Others. But You (as EU's Ombudswoman/Defensor of EU Citizens) are at a Key EU Position for that.


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- "Yeah", O'Reilly spontaneously reacted, particularly on the "Regular Dialogue" point of the above mentioned Lisbon Treaty's Article 11...


 - "I take the Overall Point, about People to be Able to Engage (in Dialogue with EU Decision-Makers), Before Decisions are made", the EU Ombudswoman told "Eurofora" at the Beginning of her Reply.


 - "That's a Huge Issue !", Emily O'Reilly observed from the outset, with a Serious look.


- "Obviously, there are All Sorts of Ways in which this could be Attempted to be done, f.ex., via Public Debates, Consultations, etc., she pointed out.


- Recently, "what I've been Trying to do is to make EU Council more accountable for Transparency, because People doN't yet known what Positions the EU Member States are Taking", she reminded, (Comp. : ..., etc).


 - On what you ("Eurofora") said, "sometimes, the Responsibility is, of course, also on Brussels (i.e., f.ex., EU Commission, etc) to Engage" (in Dialogue with EU Citizens on forthcoming Decisions), she Acknowledged.


-  "But it's also on (EU) Member States (i.e. EU Council, etc), as well, in relation to Their Citizens, their Parliaments, etc", she observed, in Reply to "Eurofora"s Question, i.e Interestingly pointing at a Wider Dimension of this matter, including also the National Public Administrations' relations with Citizens, (a Topical aspect on which "Eurofora"' co-Founder has been notoriously working in the framework of an original Legal Research at a "Doctorat d'Etat" level in the French University, since a Long Time ago, but also Nowadays).


 - "They (People) very Often Don't even Know what really Europe has done, (by Radio, TV, Newspapers, etc), while they know about EveryDay Life Politics", and so on, she observed, (also as a former Experienced, Long-Time Journalist).


 - Usually, "It Seems that it's Very Hard" for EU News to reach out to the People. "But, actually, one of the Good points about it, (i.e. Dialogue between EU Authorities and Citizens : Comp. Supra), is that", even without being "Dramatic", "I think that (EU) "Citizens are going to Consider this, (i.e.) to Learn something (in Reply) from the Politicians who are Making important (EU) Decisions here", O'Reilly observed Positively. speaking about EU Parliament's Building.


- Otherwise, in the Past, Statistics indicate that, in some Countries, only a Small Percentage of Young People Voted in EU Elections. And, in general, Often these People "do Not Relaize the Power that EU Organisations have got in recent years, Not even the Power that they have themselves, as Voters, to collectively choose this or that Political Majority, of the Right, the Left, or Center, etc, by Voting in EU Elections.


Obviously, as a matter of normal Democratic way of functioning, EU Citizens' Votes could, afterwards, logically Reward or Sanction, this or that Political Group, according to the Outcome of a previous Dialogue with them on EU Decisions affecting their Life and/or Society at large, as "Eurofora" suggested (Comp. Supra).


- But, the concrete Developpement, or not, of such Exchanges between EU Decision-Makers and EU Citizens, according also to Liisbon Treaty's Article 11, as "Eurofora" had hinted (Comp. Supra), in fact, it's a Matter of Political Will !", O'Reilly stressed in Reply.


+ However, Questioned, subsequently, by "Eurofora", if she Felt that, "Nowadays, the Door is Open, or Closed", in this regard, the EU Ombudswoman, after a Thoughtful moment, chose to Enigmatically, but quite Optimistically, Reply, with a Smile : - "I think that it May be Open !"...



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EPP President Daul to EF: Victor Orban won Democraticaly ! => Quid for EU Elections 2019 ?

Written by ACM
Tuesday, 29 May 2018
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*Strasbourg/Angelo Marcopolo/- Replying to an "Eurofora" Question, the Experienced President of ChristianDemocrat/EPP Party (HQ in Brussels), former Long-Time Head of EPP MEPs' Group in EU Parliament, and Strasbourg's Top MEP himself, Joseph Daul, strongly underlined the Fact that Popular Hungary's Prime Minister Victor Orban was Recently Re-Elected for a 3rd Time, has Won really "Democraticaly".


- "Orban was really Elected Democraticaly. Nobody can seriously contest this Fact. That's all !", Daul stressed, with a Big Smile, to "Eurofora", SIgnificantly amidst Various Relevant Reflections, Anouncements and Developments about the Crucial forthcoming EU Elections of May 2019. (See Infra).


- But, even if he naturally Acknowledged the Exceptional Fact that Orban's Re-Election was the 3rd in a Row, (a Score that Only Fellow ChristianDemocrat/EPP German Chancelor Angie Merkel, 4 Times Re-Elected, can Match), and even with a Higher Numer of Votes than previously, becoming, since 2000, for a 4rth Time Prime Minister in Hungary, Nevertheless, Daul diplomatically abstained, at least for the Time being, in his Reply to "Eurofora" relevant Question, from making Now an Explicit Link to his European Party's Strategy for the 2019 EU Election, given also the fact that it still Remains to be Officially Fixed, (See Infra).


Daul is Regularly Hosting, mostly in Brussels, but also Elsewhere in Europe, "EPP Summits" with Heads of State/Government and other Political Leaders' from his Party, including German Chancelor Angie Merkel, Austria's Sebastien Kurz, Hungary's Victor Orban, Romania's Klaus Iohannis, Croatia's Andrej Plenković, etc., Most of whom, by a Timely "Coincidence", currently Hold Office around EU's CENTRAL "HeartLand", (alias "MITTEL-EUROPA")', GeoPolitical Area, spreading around Orban's Hungary, (But Extend also much Further Away, as, f.ex., between Norway's Erna Solberg and Cyprus' Nicos Anastassiades, etc).


- ChristianDemocrats/EPP Party has "a Great Responsibility" for Europe, not only Because it's "the Biggest" in EU Parliament, but also since "We currently have the Presidents of EU Commission (Juncker), EU Council (Tusk) and EU Parliament (Tajani), as well as the EU Chief Negotiator for BREXIT" (Barnier), added to "79 National Political Parties in 41 Countries", Daul reminded from the outset, speaking at one among the first  pre-electoral EPP Meetings before the 2019 Elections in 11 Months, where "Eurofora" was Invited by Strasbourg's MEP Anna Sander.

 

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=> Lessons of recent Austrian, Hungarian, and Italian Elections, (perhaps also Slovenian soon, according to Polls), before similar developments, eventually reach even Sweden on September 2018, Added also to Various Relevant Facts in France, Germany, etc, seem to Stimulate a possible overall EPP policy Shift, which may be Shaped at that Leading European Party's next Congress, scheduled for "November 2018 in Finland", due to "choose our New "Spitzen-Kandidat", as noted Daul, in order to Lead the overall pre-Electoral Campaign and Head towards EU's Top Jobs for the Period of 2019-2024.


It's in this Context that Victor Orban has Recently Supported, during the current n Parliamentary Elections' Campaign in Neighbouring Slovenia, (where lives also an Hungarian Minority represented in that Parliament), his Fellow ChristianDemocrat/EPP Top Candidate, the Experienced former Twice Prime MInister and EU Chairman in office, Janez Jansa, that Polls show Winning this race at next Sunday's Vote.


+ Moreover, Orban is considered to have particularly Good Relations even with the New Italian Government's influential vice-Prime Minister, Matteo Salvini, Head of "Lega" Party, and close to EPP Member, former Prime Minister, Silvio Berlusconi, his Electoral Ally in a Center-Right Coalition, as well as to Georga Bellini's "Fratelli d'Italia" Party, also of the Right, (in Addition to the New Austrian Chancelor Sebastien Kurz, etc). Last, but not least, (Despite some Problems in the Past), he also cultivated particularly Good Relations, after the Historic German Chancelor Helmut Kohl (See: http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/victororbanoneuropeanandnationalreferenda.html), and Now Both with Russian President Vladimir Putin, and USA's New President Don Trump.


 Comp. also Prime Minister Orban's Replies to "Eurofora"s Questions, inter alia, also, f.ex., at Press Conferences in EU Summit in Brussels, when he took over Eu's rotating Presidency on 2010: http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/victororbanoneuidentityandenergy.html, EU Parliament in Strasbourg, mainly on 2013 : http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/primeministerorbanonvaluesmovementandeuelection.html, and at the EU-27 Summit in Bratislava on 2016 : http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/victororbanoneuropeanandnationalreferenda.html, (etc).

 


++ And by anOther such "Coincidence", of important Symbolic Nature, it's Just a Few Days Ago, on 23-24 May 2018, that Orban, who currently Holds the 2017-2018 Presidency of the "Visegrad" Group of Countries (Poland, Czech Republic, Hungary and Slovakia), has Organized a High Profile "International Conference", at Buda's Castle, with Top Expert Invitees also from Other European Countries and even elsewhere in the World (f.ex. USA, etc), precisely about the "Future of Europe", in the run-up to the Crucial EU Summit of December 2018 in Brussels, where EU's 27 Heads of State/Government are notoriously due to Take Decisions on how to eventually Reform the EU for the foreseable Future. Meanwhile, "Visegrad" Group's 4 Countries have Already Published, since the eve of EU's February 2018 Summit, Joint Draft Paper with a "Statement on Europe's Future", containing a Concise but Dense Collective Contribution to the relevant "Debate" which has recently Started, (Comp. inter alia, f.ex., also : ..., etc).

 

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 Victor Orban (since Always a ChristianDemocrat/EPP Member, almost Constantly Present in EPP's Regular Summits in Brussels) is notoriously Supporting Natural Family and Births, (Contrary to Former US President Barack Hussein Obama's notorious Attempts to Impose even the Controversial and UnPopular Submission of Children to the Power of Homosexuals, after "Same Sex Marriages", etc., with the Obvious Risk for a Technocratic Lobby to take Control of Artificially provoked Births of Human Beings, by Exploiting the Sterility of LGBTI Couples), as well as the Human Embryos also against Genetic Manipulations, and has recently Organized a well-attended, landmark "World Family Congress" (US Based, with HQ at Illinois) Annual 2017 International Conference in Budapest. But, in addition, he Explicitly Defends European Culture" and its Historic Cultural Heritage as well as Identity, while also notoriously Opposing UnControlled Mass Irregular Migration and/or Attempts to Impose by Force a progressive but growing Socio-Cultural Mutation of the Original, Historic Population even in UnWilling EU Member Countries, (Obviously Finding there, Nowadays, Various Potential Allies in Most EU States and/or Societies), as well as almost Sychronous, Grave Security Threats that Deadly Islamist Extremists' Terrorism, cowardly Targetting even innocent Civilian People, has recently provoked throughout most Other European Countries. Moreover, Orban has Surprizingly Managed to Safeguard and Boost an Exceptionaly Healthy and Robust Economy, (even if it might Not Yet be Ready for its Future Entry in "€uroZone"'s Area, Carefully prepared for the Future).


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 - Thus, President Daul, while realistically Foreseeing a "Difficult" "European Election" on 2019, whose main Issues should be, therefore, adequately Tackled On Time, already Anounced that a "Main Piority" would almost certainly be to Efficiently Deal with the Recent Mass "Migration" Problems, (which notoriously emerged since the 2015/2016 UnPrecedented, Sudden "Tsunami" of more than 1,5 Millions of Mass Asylum Seekers/Irregular Migrants entering Europe at Greece's EU External Borders, through Turkey), that he called a "Crucial Issue".

 

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=> That's one of the main reasons for which, inter alia, "Next Week I am going to Poland", Headquarters of EU's External Borders' Protection Service, known as "FRONTEX", in order to Help also "Boost its Staff", since a serious "Augmentantion of their Numbers is now Necessary", particularly in order to Safeguard EU's external Coastlines, Daul anounced.


Meanwhile, those Mass Irregular Migrants who are Not Real Refugees, Must Return Back to their Homeland, he stressed.


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+ Daul was very Lively Applauded by a Numerous Audience in Strasbourg, earlier this Evening, when he strongly Stressed that "it's Out of Question for Turkey to Enter inside the EU !", because Ankara clearly "does Not Meet the required Conditions", and, particularly, Fustigating, inter alia, also the Brutal "Ethnic Cleansing" notoriously practiced whenever the Turkish Military has Invaded and Occupied any Area, (f.ex. from the Northern Part of Cyprus, and/or the former Armenian Lands before the Genocide, up to the Syrian Kurdish Canton of Afrin, on 2018, etc). And its not expected to seriously Change for at least "until anOther Generation"...

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++ However, at the Same Time, it was recently Revealed that some Foreign, Non-European Countries, (f.ex., reportedly "Saudi Arabia", and others), are "Paying more than 200 or 300 €uro those whose Wife will Accept to Wear an Islamic Scarf", he Denounced, amidst Strong Popular Reactions. "This has been Already Noticed f.ex. in some Western Balkan Countries", (such as Bosnia-Herzegovina, Albania, etc), "but may be also true inside the EU", Daul Warned.


Nevertheless, the EPP is currently considering to Develop adequat Relations with at least Neighbouring Maghreb Countries' Governing and other Parties, Starting by "Morocco and Tunisia", and eventually Continuing with "Algeria", and, perhaps, even "Libya", as he Highlighted.


- But it's mainly the Need to Ameliorate the Situation of Western Balkan Countries, which "are Inside Europe", while, however, currently Facing, (particularly some among them), certain Serious Problems, that President Daul feels to be "Our Duty", as EU, to Help at least Establish the Rule of Law, adequately Reform Courts, Banks, their Economy, and succesfully Fight Corruption, etc. : - "It's, currently, my main Concern", he revealed, (speaking about a GeoPolitical Area for which it's well known that, particularly Hungary's Orban and Austria's Kurz, have notoriously Expressed a Special Interest for the EU to take Care).


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+ For the rest, President Daul spoke also about forthcoming Decisions on the important issue of EU's Multi-Annual "Financial Perspectives", (which use to Reflect some Crucial Political Choices), under Discussion at EU Parliament and EU Council ; the present Political Developments in the quest for a New Government in Italy, (for which he had just been Working, Earlier Today Afternoon, inside EU Parliament in Strasbourg, also with the President of the Italian Parliament, etc) ; about the "Difficult Situation" existing in Ukraine, needing Adequate Help ; on the necessary EU Progress in Defence and Scientific/Technological Research/Innovation, but also on the "Big Groups"' current trend to Dominate "Agriculture", (particularly by Combining Several Relevant Activities in order to Reduce Production/Commercialisation Costs, etc); and even ...China :


Indeed, a good Humour - tempered Joseph Daul, apparently kept his new Chinese Anecdote for a "Happy End"... While the EU Leadership is currently Preparing a "Strategic Dialogue" on further developments between Brussels and Beijing, (already partly Discussed, Yesterday Evening, by EU Parliament's Committee on External Trade, which Voted on Amendments to an EU - China Relations Report, on Monday in Strasbourg) He artfully Described, f.ex., how Beijing's Ambassador/Permanent Representative to the EU, had asked for his Help, recently, in Brussels :


- He basically told me that he had No Time to lose, on an Urgent Practical Issue, by engaging into various, Separate Discussions with Each one among EU's Member States, (considering, f.ex., that even the UK was just ..."a Small Island", Compared to the Big Volume of Goods that China wanted to Buy from Europe : See Infra), and Prefered, therefore, to speak with me (as President of 79 EPP Parties, and apparently knowing that Daul was a former Head of Agricultural Trade Unions and Chair of EU Parliament's Committee on Agriculture), in order to Help Broker asap. a Huge Deal on ...700.000 Tonnes of Meat, reportedly Destinated for Consumption by the American "Mc Donald" Fast-Food Shops' Chain, that the Chinese Government would Decide to Welcome in that Big Country of 1,3 Millions Population, (apparently on the Occasion of President Xi's well known attempts to Satisfy New US President Trump's pressing Demands to Drasticaly Lower a Foreign Trade Imbalance between China and the USA)...


 - Indeed, Nobody here can easily Imagine the real Magnitude of China, compared to our usual standards : F.ex., if they Decided to Buy our Wine, it would scarcely remain enough for our own consumption here, Daul Warned, ...hurrying up to announce the Conclusion of his Speech, so that a subsequent, Friendly moment of Wine-Tasting session between the Numerous Participants could Start asap., Before Beijing eventually Buys All that Good Alsacian Wine for itself alone, (according to a Well Known Joke, already used in a Previous Daul's Press Conference in EU Parliament in Strasbourg in the Past, on which "Eurofora" has Published a few years ago)...

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+ This gave also an Opportunity for a "Family Photo" of President Daul with Strasbourg's MEP Anne Sander's Young Friends, in a Room fully-packed also with Numerous Adults and even more or less Aged People, where MEP Sander had already confirmed to "Eurofora" that her EU Parliament's Committee on Social Affairs, currently has Various Issues of suspected "Social Dumping" and UnFair Competition to Address, while expressing her "Regrets" for the Fact that, during EU Parliament Plenary's Votes, Earlier Today Noon, the Final Version of a Resolution on the "Hot" Issue of "Posted Workers" (Based in an EU Member Country, but Working at anOther one, so that eventual Differences in the respective Costs of Living and Salaries might, perhaps, result in some UnFair Competition practices), "did Not Extend also to Transports", Contrary to a Previous Draft Deal.


However, French EU Affairs v.Minister Nathalie Loiseau had told to Strasbourg's Journalists, including "Eurofora", Earlier this Noon, during a "Press-Lunch" organized by Strasbourg's Press Club (See: ...), that, "at least, the Sector of Transports had been Submitted to an Earlier (Incomplete) Version of EU's Directive on Posted Workers, according to EU Parliament's Vote Today, while, on the Contrary, it was Excluded from that in the Past.


So that, Anyway, this Issue still Remains Open, Waiting for a Necessary Solution asap.

 


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Hu Jia's prize brings SAKHAROV's wife to "EuroFora" on murders of Journalists Politkofskaya, Gongadze and Adali :

- Elena Bonner : "All Journalists' murders must be fully investigated", without Double Standards.                                                                                    

During a special Mega-Event to celebrate 20 Years of SAKHAROV Prize for "Freedom of Thought", attributed in 2008 by EU Parliament to jailed Chinese Cyber-Dissident Hu JIA, the move was reinforced by strongly criticizing the persisting impunity in three cases of Journalists' Murders, such as POLITKOVSKAYA in Russia, GONGADZE in Ukraine, and ADALI in Turkish-occupied part of Cyprus.

Any bureaucratic doubt about whether Cyber-dissidents like Hu JIA might have, or not, a right to be protected as all Journalists must be, particularly when they take risks to search, find and publish original and critical News on issues of general interest to the society, could not resist to the emotion provoked by the message of his Wife, Zeng JINYAN spectacularly transmitted at a big screen in EU Parliament's hemicycle :

- "The most important and most interesting thing he did was to ... say the Truth :.. to write about the phenomena he observed... He never stopped Publishing.. on websites, so that the Public could learn about the reality .. and understand it.  In my view, this has been his greatest contribution", stressed the young wife of the jailed man, eager to cite also the cases of other critical journalists who faced various kinds of "harassment".

 - "Welcoming all those who have suffered for defending Human Rights", EU Parliament's President, German MEP Hans Gert POETTERING, who had invited to Strasbourg all former Sakharov prize-winners from various Countries throughout the World, said that "China needs Europe, and Europe needs China : A great nation" with which "we want to have a good relationship", "association and ..friendship". "But we are never going to stop our fight for Human Rights, and No Government can expect this from us".

    - "It's impossible  to achieve goals of Peace, if Human Rights are left out. In fact, Peace and Human Rights are intrinsequaly linked", added POETTERING.

    It's in this spirit that MEPs adopted, on Thursday, a Resolution denouncing that "the criminal
investigation and trial following the murder of (a) Journalist ...raises serious concerns with regard to transparency and respect for the rule of law", when a "brutal killing has not yet been fully investigated and solved in a satisfactory way".

    The text refered to dissident Journalist "Anna POLITOVSKAYA", a critic of Tchechen conflict, killed some years ago in Moscow, where Russian Authorities have found, arrested and are currently judging two executants, while also searching to arrest also a 3rd one, allegedly escaped in Belgium. But they have not yet found the instigators.

     Similar texts were adopted recently also on dissident Ukranian Journalist Georgiy GONGADZE's murder, for which Ukranian Authorities have at least found, arrested and condemned 2 executants to 12 and 13 Years of jail, but not yet the instigators. For that purpose, they recently accepted an International Experts team to participate to the investigations.     

But, it's only for the Murder of dissident Turkish Cypriot Journalist ADALI, in the occupied territories of Cyprus, that Turkey has NOT yet found ANYONE responsible, and even claimed recently inside CoE that it would be "impossible" to do so !    

These astonishing differences exist despite the fact that ECHR condemned alike Ukraine and Turkey with 2 Judgements on the same year : 2005, for the murders of  Journalists GONGADZE and ADALI, strong critics of Corruption in Ukraine, and of Ankara's policies on mass-influx of Turkish Settlers in the Occupied Territories of Cyprus, respectively.    

Regarless of that, CoE's Committee of Ministers, who is entrusted with the duty to supervise execution of ECHR's judgements, has just asked Ukraine's Government to reply to further questions on Gongadze's murder before March 2009, while Turkey, curiously, got a longer postponement for answering questions on Adali's murder, until June...   

A comparison of these cases, raises serious questions about Double Standards :

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On TRANSPARENCY :
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    On Gongadze's murder, CoE's body speaks even about the participation of
"an INTERNATIONAL group of Experts" in the Investigation, (f.ex. of "Tape Recordings"), accepted by Ukraine.
    On the contrary, on Adali's murder, CoE is obliged to repeatedly ask (for a 2nd
time) Turkey whether, at least, it informed the victims' Family, or not...
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- On EFFICIENCY :
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On Gongadze's murder, CoE formally "recalls that the Committee (of Ministers) ..URGED the Ukranian authorities.. to TAKE ALL NECESSARY INVESTIGATIVE STEPS TO ACHIEVE CONCRETE and VISIBLE RESULTS in the INVESTIGATION, aimed at the Identification of the INSTIGATORS and Organisers of the Murder", and "STRONGLY INVITED the Ukranian Authorities to provide information on the PROGRESS IN THE INVESTIGATION", before MARCH 2009.

But, on Adali's murder, on the contrary, CoE's body merely .. "took note" of the "arguments presented by" Cyprus, which denounce the absence of any proof of new "investigation" by Turkey. Following Turkey's own suggestion (!), it simply "noted" that there is "no limitation period" for "any new element" to "lead potentialy (sic !) to a Re-Opening of the Investigation". Without saying who might find any such "new" fact, since Turkey stoped searching... It also POSTPONED the issue until .. JUNE  !
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 - On the PUNISHMENT OF THOSE RESPONSIBLE :
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 -  On Gongadze's murder case, Ukranian Authorities already arrested and condemned, at least 2 suspects, to 12 and 13 Years of jail. And on Politkovskaya's murder at least 2 suspects are judged, and a 3rd one "wanted".

On the contrary, on Adali's murder case, the Turkish authorities simply claim that "it had not been possible to obtain new .. information .. on the basis of which criminal charges could be brought against ANY person" !...

Moreover,  a LETTER sent by Turkey ...2 Years after CoE's 2006 call to re-investigate anew Adali's murder case, is totally EMPTY of Facts ! As Cypus' Delegation denounced earlier, Turkey's Letter ONLY CLAIMS that a "New Investigation" was made without any result, but does NOT even cite ANY FACT to prove it :

F.ex.,on the crucial issue of the "MOTIVATIONS" behind Adali's murder, noted by ECHR, Turkey MERELY CLAIMS that "all allegations  were investigated; without result", but OMITS ANY FACT TO PROVE IT !..(It doesn't even remind which were these "allegations").. .

+ On ECHR's astonishment that the Turkish Occupation regime didn't produce any "BALLISTIC REPORT" on the Shots which murdered Adali, Turkey again repeats, 12 years later, that, still, even until now, "it  was not possible to obtain the BalisticReport"...

- As for the astonishing absence of key-WITNESSES' Testimonies, denounced by ECHR, Turkey agains repeats various pretexts avoiding to reveal anything, (Fex. that a person "left" the Occupied Territories  "on 2002", or that another witness was heard, but without revealing nothing of what he said, etc).

Turkey obviously "FAILS TO MEET THE CRITICISM made BY THE COURT" for lack of any efficient Investigation in Adali's case, concluded Cyprus' Government.
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Replying to our Question which COMPARED these 3 outstanding cases of "JOURNALISTS MURDERS", Adali, Gongadze and Politkovskaya, in order to avoid "Double Standards" by asking from Ukraine and Russia more than what is asked EU candidate Turkey, many European personalities were critical /

They criticised Ankara's recent claim at the CoE to stop investigating, because it would be "impossible to find anyone" responsible for the 5 bullet shots which killed Kutlu ADALI in front of his Family Home, contrary to the other two Journalists' murders, where Ukraine and Russia at least arrested the executants, searching now for the instigators :
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    - "Where was that ? In Turkish Occupied Cyprus ? WITHOUT ANY DOUBT : Any murder of Journalist should be investigated in full ! All these Murders must be investigated !", replied the famous SAKHAROV's wife, Elena BONNER to our question on Adali's case, compared to Gongadze and Politofskaya.

    Elena Bonner spoke us EXCLUSIVELY shortly after being honored by the President
of EU Parliament on the occasion of 20 Years of her husband's SAKHAROV Prize.

    A strong personality, Sakharov's wife even had to struggle against an anonymous EU staffer who, astonishingly, tried to stop her speaking when h heard our question on "Turkey" (!) : - "Please, let me translate, she continues
speaking, don't stop us !", had to cry Sakharov's daughter, (a Journalist
herself), who was translating her mothers' reply, (obliged to speak louder to
make her voice heard despite the harassment).. (= + Audio Proof !)

    Earlier, Elena Bonner also fustigated "Double Standards" at another case, on
Western countries' attitude vis a vis Kosovo and the Kurds : -F.ex. "You have
recognized a few 400.000 Kosovars as an "independent" country, but you still
deny that to 30 millions of Kurds in Turkey !", she denounced.
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    - "This (ADALI's murder) is an issue which should be pursued by the Committee
for Human Rights. That's why we have one, and it's its duty to examine cases of
Journalists' murders as the one you referred to. You should bring the case in
front of that Committee", suggested in reply to our question on Adali, EU
Parliament's President, German MEP Hans Gert POETTERING.

    - "It's impossible  to achieve goals of PEACE, if HUMAN RIGHTS are left out :
in fact, Peace and Human Rights are intrinsequaly linked", added POETTERING.
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    + "For us (European/International Federation of Journalists) it's clear :
Whenever a Journalist is Murdered, the Investigation should continue until
those Responsible are found !", replied earlier to another question on ADALI
EFJ/IFJ's Secretary General, Aidan WHITE.

    Speaking as a matter of General Principle, White asked us for "concrete data"
on the execution of ECHR's judgement on Adali case, in order to "look at it in
depth" and "make a formal statement", in comparison with the other Murdered
Journalist case, also pending at CoE's  Ministers for completing its execution,
on Ukranian Gongadze.
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     From EU Rapporteur on Human Rights, vice-President of EU Parliament Liberties' Committee, MEP Giusto CATANIA, we were told that, since there is an ECHR judgement in both Adali and Gongadge's cases, "Turkey must naturally execute the judgement and make a full and efficient investigation, until those responsible for the Journalist's murder are found and punished".

    Even if "we (Catania's "EuroLeft" Group) support Turkey's EU perspectives, this does not mean that Ankara should not behave properly. On the contrary, it means that they have to meet tough conditions, particularly on Human Rights", was added on the occasion of Adali's murder case.

    Moreover, "since you raise the issue of Mr. Adali's muder as a part of a Series of Journalist's murders, including fex. Gongadze, Politkovskaya, ao., tthen we (EU) could also act together with CoE's Commissioner on Human Rights, Thomas HAMMARBERG, it was suggested.

    - "We (EU) must step up efforts against the problem of IMPUNITY : Real Peace cannot exist without Justice",  stressed also this week at EU Parliament in Strasbourg, French Minister on Human Rights, Mrs Rama YADE.
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