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"EF"'s Reply to CoFoE's Question on What the EU would do with Russia in a De Gaulle's "Great Europe"

*Strasbourg/Angelo Marcopolo/- When PanEuropean, 47 Member States' strong, CoE's Assembly, Lifted Sanctions against Russia on 2019, (Rectifying a Blunder due to 2014 Anti-European Interferences, even with Deadly "Snipers" Killing Both Policemen and Demonstrators at Maidan SQ, provoking the Fall of a Peace Deal, including Amnesty, National Unity Government, and New Elections, Agreed by All parties, under France/Germany/Poland's auspices), the News made Frontpage Headlines at "New York Times"...
Nowadays, at EU's "Conference on the Future of Europe" (CoFoE), a Question was raised, by a mainstream Member at its Web Platform, on "Eurofora"'s Publication, there, about the Topical character of De Gaulle's "Great Europe" with Russia as a Partner, (See: https://futureu.europa.eu/processes/EUInTheWorld/f/16/proposals/169590, etc, i.e. the Latest among Our 5 Ideas proposed there). It concerns, mainly, the Concrete Ways through which this might be realized, and Here is our Answer :
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Juha Rannisto
01/12/2021 07:51
The EU is too weak to push its borders to the Ural Mountains, even with the Eastern expansion of NATO.
Luckily, some former republics of the USSR are already EU members. Over time, more could join. Ukraine, Georgia, Kaliningrad, etc.?
But maybe it is easier to invite first Russians under 25 years of age to visit the EU without visas.
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Dear Juha Rannisto,
- Attempts for an "Eastern Expansion of NATO" would Mean return Back to the "Cold War", even "Hot" WAR, and threaten to provoke Europe's Destruction !
- For "some (more) former Republics of the USSR" to "Join" the "EU", (as Ukraine and/or Georgia, etc) that might be, perhaps, Possible, (even if Ukraine faces so big Problems after the Mess provoked by the Foreign Interventions against pro-Russian Ukranians, that it has become practicaly doubtful). At any case, it's Not the Essential point at all ...
- "Young Russians" (and, more widely : Civil Society) "Invited to Visit the EU", (f.ex. "withOut Visas", etc), would certainly be Positive and Useful, (naturaly Carefuly, with Reciprocity, interesting Projects, etc). But largely InSufficient, and too Slow (i.e. Middle/Long Term)...
=> Obviously, the Main Point is direct Big Projects, of common interest, between the EU and Russia, able to Boost Economic Development, High-Tech Innovations, Cultural and Educational Cooperation, as well as Strengthening all the European People's feeling and conscience of a Joint History, Interests, Values, and Future, in a way Stimulating Ambitious Horizons for PanEuropa in the World !
Among many and various Mega-Projects, could be Included, f.ex. :
* A Trans-Continental TTGV (i.e. + 600 km/h) Link, from Madrid to Vladivostok, (that China would certainly be Glad to co-Fund). It would also serve as Backbone to several Vertical TGV Corridors, all along the way. As well as Ready for Possible Future Extensions towards Africa and/or America, as the Center of a Global Network at the Horizon, (in the direction of Cape Town, from one side, and of Port Williams/Cape Horn, at the other).
* Create an autonomous, Manned, ReUsable SpaceCraft, to come and go into Orbital Earth, Moon, March, etc. Space Stations and/or Bases, as well as order to ReLaunch and Develop Human Space Flight, and Space Exploration. (A relevant Joint ESA-RosoCosmos Project exists since 2.000)...
* Establish a Large PanEuropean+ "Free Trade" Area, (the Greatest in the World) from Portugal to Vladivostok, (as Merkel, Austrians, a.o. had proposed on 2013, in order to Boost Commerce all accross EU and Russia, Lifting Contradictions of the Past, as those which had been felt in Ukrania's and/or Armenia's cases, etc).
* Remind, Realize and Develop further the main common Culture and History of the PanEuropean area, on Key matters, Shared by Both EU and Russia, is Obviously a Prime Quality "Must" :
* Invent a Joint new Hypersonic AirPlane, successor of "Concorde" and "Typolev", for Long, mainly Trans-Continental Flights of Civilian People, (that Europeans were the Only to dispose in the Globe, until a not yet fully elucidated Deadly sabotage of Cocorde, apparently by an USA Airplane, out of Paris on 2.000). It seems that Technical Plans for that, Already exist, somewhere around AF and/or BA, as well as in Russia, waiting Political Decisions, Updates, and Finalisation.
* On the Institutional front, inter alia, the "Trilateral" (France - Germany - Russia) Top Summits, inaugurated since 1998 CoE's PanEuropean Summit in Strasbourg, by Chirac, Kohl, Yeltsin, and continued by Schroeder, Merkel, Sarkozy, Putin, Medvedev, etc, until about 2011+. (Some June 2021 difficulties for all 27 EU Member States to formaly agree for an official meeting with Russia, only showed that the Solution is at the Top, precisely as it was Since the Beginning)...
* To Develop a Popular Consience on "Great Europe"s PanEuropean Dimension Values, History and Potential, a Cultural and Historic approach is also of Vital Importance : This obviously Includes mainly Christianism, but Tolerant to other Religions, landmark Litterature (Novels, Poetry, etc), Music and Theater, Philosophy and Science, Art and Cinema, etc., as well as Tsar Peter's famous "Quest towards the West", (dear to Vladimir Putin, himself a Petrograd native, and Speaking Deutsch), the French Architects' superb Buildings at Petrograd, the Renaissance Philosophers supported by Emperor Catherine, but Also the Succesfull "Holly Alliance" between Russia and Poland, Lithuania, Germans, Venice, French, Vatican, etc. for Liberation from Military Invasion/Occupation of Europe by the Ottoman-Turks, or the Victorious Navarino naval battle of French, Russian, and Brittish against Turks in Greece on 1828, (overshadowed by another Victory of a German Officer with Russian Troops against Ottoman Empire Turkish Invadors/Occupators near Constantinople, that had enthousiasted Marx), added to Russia's participation in the succesful Defense of Wien, followed by the Liberation of Budapest and All Hungary, etc., (without forgetting the paradox of Russia controling even ...Alaska and battling inside Oregon, against ... Mexicans, when USA had Not Yet Started to Develop its forces there), up to the Victory against NAZism at Stalingrad/Volgograd and the Liberation of Eastern Europe (1941-1945); the Conquest of Space (from Gagarin to Soyuz, etc); the Struggle against Deadly Islamist Terrorism cowardly killing Civilian People, as throughout the EU from 2015-2016+, even School-Children in Russia (incl. Chechnya, 1999-2014+) until Syria also recently, (etc).
* Concerning the most Vital and Topical Issue Nowadays : that of the Deadly or Incapacitating Virus C0VID-19, during the Current Limitation of Most Western Countries in Only a Few, Controversial Fake-"Vaccines", (in Fact "Novel Tools" affecting the Human Genome, by Suppressing a Protein via "mRNA": Turko-USA Pfizer + Moderna, or via "Virus' vector": UK's Astrozeneca [with Chimpadji cells] + USA's Janssen), the present and future MisTrust by Many People is due to their Exceptional Precariousness (Needing 3 or 4 Shots in only One Year !), InEfficacy (Pseudo-"Vaccinated" Individuals can be Infected, and even Infect Others in the Society, Contrary to any Real Vaccine... ), Risky "Side Effects" (f.ex. may Kill via Allergy or Heart, even Young + Healthy People, and "mRNA" Fake-"Vaccine" has been Suspended for that, as "Astrozeneca" for Thrombosis, etc), Dangerous in case of Error or Abuse (f.ex. illtreating complex Proteins might have "Catastrophic" Effects [BBC], as such "Individualizable" Gene Therapy Tools [mRNA-BioNTech 2019], Marked under the Skin [MIT 2019], may Manipulate the Human Genome, with UnKnown Results, including perhaps Cancer, etc), Bypassed by many "Variants" of the Virus, (particularly those affecting its "Spike", as f.ex. the latest variant "Omicron", etc).
=> On the Contrary, "Classic" Technology Vaccines, Already Tested during 2 Centuries, as invented by Western European scientist Louis Pasteur (Strasbourg), and which constitute, even Now, the absolute Majority of finalized Projects having Reached a 3rd (Last) Phase of Tests, according to the WHO, including an Important Project concluding Nowadays in Russia, are Not so Precarious, might have Less Side-Effects, Protect Recipients and/or their Contacts from Infections or Transmissions, do Not Manipulate Human Genome, and might Not be so Affected by Virus' Variants, (since they do Not Focus only on its "Spike", But use an Entire Virus, previously "Weakened"). So that a relevant EU - Russia scientific Cooperation might, eventualy, Succeed to Invent a Good and Real Vaccine asap !
+ In Addition, Scientific Research and/or Cure by "Convalescent Plasma" Therapy (i.e. using AntiBodies Naturaly created by the Human Immunity System of ex-Patients who Recovered succesfuly, and Donated plasma - Contrary to "Monocloal AntiBodies", artificially Fabricated by Animal-Human "Chimeras" using Mouses, etc, and Too Expensive), might find Better Perspectives through a relevant EU - Russia Cooperation in the foreseable Future.
Indeed, China First spotted the Potential of that approach, (But soon run out of Test possibilities, after its Succesful Fight against the Virus left so Few Infections in the Country, that Foreign Trials there had to Stop, while even Chinese Trials on COVID had to Search Participants in Other Continents)... Former POTUS Trump's Health Secretary, Alex Azar, had afterwards Pointed at Convalescent Plasma as having a "Breakthrough" Potential, (even if its Scarcity Needed further Innovative Solutions in order to Hopefuly Treat all the People, some of which were Already Visible at the Horizon). But, Later-on, after "Socialist" Biden's Controversial Election, started Some Ambivalent and/or Partialy Negative Estimations, claiming about "Insufficient" Yet Studies and/or some alleged Shady Limits on the matter, (Often in curiously Doubtful Format [f.ex.: "16 Trials on 16.006 Patients"..., or "= Effects if taken in 3 Days after Infection, But Not if taken more than a Week Later" (sic !)], and/or by, comparatively, Small Groups [f.ex. from Only 21 out of 194 WHO Member Countries], composed mainly by "Experts" either InCompetent on Such Issues, or obviously Linked with an Establishment having notorious Interests into Exploiting, on the Contrary, Expensive and/or Human Genome Manipulating, Artificial Alternatives, Animal-Human "Chimeras", etc, Instead of Natural Donations])...
=> However, the Fact that EU has been Twice at the "Epicenter" of the Pandemic, this time Together with Russia, Both having had Record-High Numbers of Infected People, obviously Facilitates, more than elsewhere, the Collection of Convalescent Plasma Donations, in order to try to Save Human Lives, with, comparatively, Lower Cost and Abundant Natural Means. The Rest is a matter for Solidarity, Cooperation, Science, Invention, Technology, and Orgaisation,where the "Great Europe" could make a Good and Big Demonstration of its Potential, for the Benefit also of the whole World, particulaly in terms of Scientific Breakthroughs for Human Health !
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* At any case, last, but not least, by a Timely "Coincidence", these same Days, it was a Good Surprize to see that, in EU Parliament's recent landmark Ceremony in the Memory of Historic former President of France, Valery Giscard d'Estaign (1926-2020), the Musician chosen in order to play a wonderful piece of Brahms, at the Conclusion of that exceptional Franco-German and European Event in Strasbourg, was a Young Pianist, living in France, but of ...Russian origin : Alexandre Cantorow, (Winner of a Prize awarded at an important Tchaïkovski festival in Moscow)... A European Franco-Russian, by his Mother and Father, (with whom he has worked and played Together Many famous Musical artworks).
=> Enjoy : https://audiovisual.ec.europa.eu/en/video/I-214946
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VGE EUParliament Event Topical on EUFuture for Inviting EF, Portugal President v. Forced "Vaccine" +









+ De Gaule's "Great Europe", including Russia, should be ReVived !
*Strasbourg/Angelo Marcopolo/- As CoFoE's 4rth Panel of Citizens, on "EU in the World" is unfolding these Days for a 2nd Time (26-28/11/2021), "Eurofora" firmly believes that Recent Developments (f.ex. azound Belarus, Ukraine, France and Germany, EU and USA,, etc.) call for a Change, by Returning Back to the Fundamentals :
Russia of Christianism and Cyrilic Alphabet, Tolstoi, Dostoyevski, Poushkin, Majakovski, Soshtakovich, Chaikovsky, Eisenstein, Leningrad/Saint Petersburg, Stalingrad/Volgograd, Kalina maya, Bolshoi, Russian Sports and Chess, Laika, Gagarin, Andrei Tarkovsky, Soyouz, (etc), are part of Our European History, Identity, Continent, and Future.
Initialy called "the Road from Greeks to the Skandinavians", Russia joined Poland, Lithuania, Germans, Venice, the Vatican and Others in a succesful "Holly Alliance" to Free Europe from the Turkish Ottoman Invasion/Occupation, Fought Together with France and England at Navarino Victory (1828), Won against NAZIsm in Eastern Europe, became integral part of De Gaulle's "Great Europe", served "Detente" after Helsinki Summit, became CoE's Member during Mitterand, formed the "Trilateral" : "France-Germany-Russia" with Chirac-Kohl-Yeltsin etc. since 1998, created "Mir" (Peace) Space Station (+prepares now "ROSS"), Helped Syria face ISIL's a.o. Islamist Terrorists cowardly Killing Civilians, (etc).
If the EU kept Friendly Links with Russia, Europe's PIB Growth would be Boosted, ESA would have a SpaceCraft (that even USA hasN't), Europeans would be since the 2000s already on Mars and Exploring Space, a TTGV could Link Madrid/Paris/Berlin/Varsaw/Moscow to Vladivostok/Beizing/Shanghai, Great Europe would Control its Neighborhood, and might have Jointly Invented Cure + Vaccine against the Deadly Virus, (etc).
=> But a 2014 Foreign Intervention in Ukraine, Snipers killing a Peace Deal, Civil War, etc.,have, meanwhile, Divided Europe...
It's Time for this to Stop !
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(Published, as "Eurofora"'s 4rth Proposed Idea
in EU's Conference on Europe's Future, at "EU in the World" in :
https://futureu.europa.eu/processes/EUInTheWorld/f/16/proposals/169590)
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"Eurofora" published 3 Projects at EU's platform for Europe's Future
*Strasbourg/Angelo Marcopolo/- Until Now, in Total, "Eurofora" has proposed 3 different concrete Ideas, Published at the Web Platfom of EU's Conference on Europe's Future:
2 on Citizens' participation in Democratic Decision-Making, and 1+ on Digital Sovereignity + Popular "Green" Technologies.
They are Added to our Press Coverage for relevant Citizens' Panels and/or Plenaries, (and Already attracted about 900 Registered "Followers" each).

+ Establish a Dialogue between EU Citizens and Politicians Before Decisions which affect their Lives and/or the Society, at : https://futureu.europa.eu/processes/Democracy/f/6/proposals/32770
+ Better EU Citizens' Democracy can Help EU Parliament get Legislative Initiative !, at : https://futureu.europa.eu/processes/Democracy/f/6/proposals/151141
+ Time to create a Sovereign Digital and "Green" European SmartPhone ?, at : https://futureu.europa.eu/processes/GreenDeal/f/1/proposals/160018 + https://futureu.europa.eu/processes/Digital/f/15/proposals/160051,

The First was Supported by a 2 Days-long Citizens' Conference organized by Strasbourg's Euro-Metropole on 2019, and in the official Report to the French Government for the "Great Debate" launched by President Macron (See: http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/euroforaideasendorsedbystrasbourggreatdebate.html), as well as (in Principle) by 2 relevant Resolutions of CoE's Assembly and EU Parliament on June 2021, (See: http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/coebackseuroforamainidea.html + http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/euparliamentoneuroforaproject.html). It was also Discussed with various Top EU + CoE Officials, including EU Parliament's President David Sassoli, (Both in Brussels and in Strasbourg : See: http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/euparliamentpresidentforstrongcitizenvoices.html + http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/euparliamentoncitizensforeufuture.html), French President Macron, as Early as since 2018 at Saint Dié, just After Launching EU Citizens' Consultations at Epinal (See : http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/macronforcitizensdebatesalsoafter2019.html + http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/macronlauncheseucitizenconsultations.html + http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/euroforaideasendorsedbystrasbourggreatdebate.html), as well as, more extensively, during that EU CoFoE's Plenary, in Replies to Our Question at the Joint Press Conference of the 3 Co-Chairs from EU Council, Parliament and Commission, on October 2021, (See: http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/cefchairsonefideafordialoguecitizenspoliticiansbeforeacts.html).
The Second was Discussed and Welcomed by a Key MEP representing EU Parliament at that Exceptional EU Conference, twice on 2020, (during a Press Interview and a Collective Meeting organized by the European Movement where we were Invited, while even an EU Parliament's subsequent Resolution evoked at least a Part of "Eurofora"'s original Idea, Later on June 2021 : See http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/mepdurandeuroforaonfutureconf.html + http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/topmepdurandforefprojectineuconference.html + ..., etc).
And the Third, after being initialy Published by "Eurofora" already during the landmark 7/2020 EU Summit on the ReVival Plan, (See: http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/eurevivalsummitneedseuropeanvision.html), it was Welcomed by a Top EU Council's Official, as an "apparently Great Idea", during a Video-Press-point on EU Heads of State/Government in Brussels on October 2021, (See : http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/efideaoneugreenphoneineusummit.html).
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Macron: New Model with Big Decisions +Historic Investments at EU Presidency 2022: Believe in France!

*Strasbourg/Angelo Marcopolo/- Embattled French President Emmanuel Macron, bravely seized the opportunity of another Crucial Juncture in the Hard Fight against the Deadly Pandemic Virus, where Europe is anew becoming the World's Epicenter at the End of 2021, as at the Beginning of 2020, in order to Highlight the Forthcoming EU Chairmanship by Paris from January 2022, notoriously expected right in the Middle of a Global Health Crisis, but also at the Conclusion of EU's landmark Conference on Europe's Future, (2021-2022).
Apparently stimulated by the exceptional Challenge, he launched a vibrant Call to "- Believe in France !", Even if its People still has to Choose Leaders in Crucial Presidential and Parliamentary Elections, between April and June 2022, where, in Addition to an Extended Rightist Competition, with Frontrunner Marine Le Pen, aside Rocketing Outsider TV-Journalist Zemour, it's also Mainstream, Center-Right's Frontrunner Xavier Bertrand, former Long-Time Minister and Recently Re-Elected Lille Region President, (between Brussels and Paris), aside experienced EU Heavyweight Michel Barnier, Paris Region's Chief Valery Pecresse, etc., from Sarkozy's "Republican" Party, who might gather a Large Number of Voters, if they stay United, according to the Latest Polls.
- Firmly Focused on his own Mission, Macron Vowed to reach asap a "New Model of Growth", made by "Big Decisions" and "Historic Investments", Both "in France and in Europe", where the Public Institutions have to play an Important Role, since "the Market Alone is Not Sufficient", requiring "a Strong Public Intervention", as he stressed from the outset.
- "In a Context of Clash between USA, China, Russia, Continental SuperPowers, added to a DeStabilisation of Many Areas of the World, and what is at Stake", "it's Only a Voluntary European entente, with Solidarity, which Can Bring to Our European Countries a Backing and FirePower", the French President observed. "France will Not be Strong Alone", while "it's enough to Open the Eyes in order to realize how Our (EU) Interests Meet and Fit to eachother", he underlined.
- In fact, "we Prepare ourselves to Face the Challenges of the Future", "because we are living a Profound Revolution" nowadays :
- "This Virus has Blocked the entire World", and "we realized our Dependance from Foreigners, Even for Basic Products, such as Masks, Paracetamol, and others", while "we found that Innovation could Change everything, sometimes with an UnPrecedented Speed, as on Vaccines", he reminded. +But, "at the Same Time, the Big Issues dating from Before this Crisis, didN't Disappear : Planet's protection, Demographic Challenge, Ageing, growing InEqualities", etc...
=> "That's why", f.ex., "in order to Invest in 10 sectors of the Future, as the DeCarbonisation of Industry, the Electric Car, the Airplane with Zero CO2", or "Culture, Health, Space, Maritime" areas, etc., as well as "to Educate and Train our Youth in Jobs of the Future", "Secure ...the Production of Essential Components and Technologies, as Semi-Conductors, Robotics, or Cyber", with "a Clear Aim : The Products and Technologies which will forge the Economy, Jobs, and Lives of 2030, should Not come Only from USA or Asia, But Also from France and (all) Europe", inter alia, "we Launched the Plan France 2030, with 30 Billions € over 5 Years", he Started to enumerate.
- "Some thought that it was an Inacheivable dream", But "I Believe the Opposite : It depends from a Feasible Ambition, Lucid Voluntarism, if we continue, Nowadays, towards Reforms, Changes, and Investments", Macron stressed. - "Yes, ...we Have the Means to Strengthen our Position of Great Power in Education, Industry, Agriculture. To Innovate, Create, Produce, while keeping our Climate and BioDiversity targets, If we Invest, Lift the Brakes against Action, the UseLess Complications and Corporatisms".
+ As for "working to Build our Energy Independence", for the 1st Time since Decades, we are going to Launch the consruction of Nuclear Reactors", announced Macron, in a notorious Context of Energy Prices' "Boom", (See, f.ex., : ..., etc), and practicaly Adopting ...Xavier Bertrand's original Proposal, (made just Yesterday, in the 1st Debate between "Republican" Candidates : Comp. Supra), as if they might Converge, perhaps, somehow... Concerning the EU, meanwhile, France had Notoriously Agreed, in the Past, to Help Italy Develop Nuclear Energy, (during a Chirac - Berlusconi Summit at Elysée Palace : See "Eurofora"s NewsReport from the spot, then), But this was Blocked, Later-on, by an Opposed Political Swift in Rome and other EU Countries.
- "It's in this Context ... that our Country will assume, in 2 Months, the duty to Chair the European Union" (1 - 6/2022), whose "Orientations are Not Far Away, Neither Fainting" : On the Contrary, they are even the Backbone of Our Lives, and of the Years To Come !", he highlighted.
- F.ex., inter alia, "withOut the EU we wouldN't have, so Fast, at our Disposal, a Vaccine", Macron claimed, (Apparently pointing at a Commercial Acquisition of Foreign Fake-"Vaccines", as Real Europeans obviously consider Scandalous the UnExpected Fact that Europe did Not Create, yet, Any Vaccine or Cure, Abandoning everthing to the USA, China, Russia, the Turks, etc, Contrary to Macron himself's Initial Dream for Europe to Invent a real "Antidote" against that Deadly Virus : See ..., etc)....
+ Indeed, "Our (EU) Partners are Not Strangers : In this Continent, that Fate gave us, they are Facing the Same Upheavals, the Same Tornados, as those that We meet. That's why, it's With Them that we Shall Strive, during the Next Months, to Better Face our Challenges", the French President Vowed, citting, in particular :
- F.ex., inter alia, "to Better Protect our External Borders together".
- "To continue Building with Africa a relation of Peace, Stability and Growth, together".
- "To better Regulate the Digital Giants, (as USA's "Google", etc), together".
- "To build a credible Strategy of Reducing our CO2 Emmissions, in a way compatible with Industrial and Technologic Sovereignity, together".
(+Etc.)
=> "This New Model of Investment and Growth, to which I Believe for France and (all) the EU, I will Defend it, on your behalf, From next January (2022), by Taking over the EU Presidency (1-6/2022)", Macron promised.
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The official presentation of a "Program" respecting People's choices voted in the June 7, 2009 EU Elections, to be debated in EU Council and EU Parliament during its 1st Session on July in Strasbourg, is the No 1 Priority, according to Democratic principles, for the Franco-German axis, said the main winners at the ballot box, French President Nicolas Sarkozy and German Chancellor Angie Merkel.
They stressed that the New EU Commission's President must have a "Program" in favor of an EU which "protects" its Citizens, regulates financial markets and aims at a "Political" Europe" : a wording they have used as incompatible with Turkey's controversial EU bid.
They also declared ready for a "political" endorsment of "Mr. Barroso's candidacy" in June's EU Council, considering that an official decision would have to be made after EU Parliament's debates and votes, possibly from next month (July), with the legally necessary final acceptance shortly after Lisbon Treaty's entry into force, hoped for September or October.
- "A Program, and Mr. Barroso" : This resumes, in substance, the anouncements made by Sarkozy and Merkel, on the question of current EU Commission's President, Barroso's declared wish to succeed to himself for a second mandate, to be extended during the following 5 years.
In their 1st meeting after EU Elections, they observed that "the Franco-German axis counted in European Elections' campaign... But, we both keep a realistic view : We saw the number of those who abstained, and we must absolutely give them an answer. We also see the disilusionment of an important number of Europeans vis a vis Europe, and we are aware of the responsibilities we have".

- The "Duty" of the new EU Commission's President, after June 7, 2009 EU Elections' result, "is to act for a Europe which protects the Europeans, to commit himself into working for a better Regulation of Financial transactions, ... and to have a Political will for Europe", underlined Sarkozy.
Therefore, "we have asked M. Barroso... to clarify, to officialy present the intentions he has", he anounced.
- "We want to speak also about the Programme", explained Merkel.
- "It's important that for the next EU Parliament's mandate (2009-2014) we take the right Decisions for Europe. Obviously on Persons, but mainly Decisions on Issues", she stressed.
- "It's not simply a question of a Person, it's also a question of a Programme". We are "really asking Mr. Barroso to commit himself on a Program, and on Principles, on Values", Sarkozy added.
EU President-in-office, Czech Prime Minister Jan Fischer, accepted the Franco-German stance :
- "Barroso must present his Programme. The Czech Presidency agrees with that", Fischer reportedly said later, after meeting Sarkozy.
But Press reports from Brussels claimed that Barroso had preferred to be officially appointed by EU Council since June, (i.e. next week), "because this was implied by the current Treaty of Nice, according to him", and considered any delay until the possible ratification of the new, Lisbon Treaty on September/October, as "undemocratic".
- "At any case, independently of what Germany and France ask, it's also EU Parliament's wish". "We shall propose Mr Barroso's candidacy... But even in the framework of Nice Treaty, EU Parliament has to be associated in this Decision", the French President observed.
If this is correctly done, then "we support Mr. Barroso's candidature", and "if the (EU) Parliament agrees, we might ratify this decision since July", (i.e. next month), they both said.

- "France and Germany support Baroso's candidacy, But we want to speak also on the Program. We believe that this Program should be established in close cooperation with EU Parliament, and that's why we have followed an appropriate way", said Merkel. - If EU Parliament wants, this election can take place on July, but this must be done in full agreement.
- "We shall support Mr. Barroso's candidacy, without doubt", said Sarkozy. "But we have asked from Mr. Barroso, as I told him yesterday, to put into detail.. his intentions, at the eve of his 2nd mandate, if the situation avails itself.
France and Germany "don't want to take an Official Legal Decision by writting" during "the next (EU) Council" (on June 18-19), declared Sarkozy. Because they prefer, at this stage, only "a Political decision" on June, "so that we (EU Council) can work together with EU Parliament", which starts to meet only Next Month, since July in Srasbourg, "leaving a Legal decision by writting for later".
- "If the Conditions are fuillfiled in EU Parliament, we (EU Council) are ready to give the agreement and make it offficial", said Merkel
- "But, now we are working in the base of Nice Treaty. If tommorow we want to work in the spirit of Lisbon Treaty, we have to find a proper way", she added.
- "Of course it's Legally complicated, because we are going to make a Political proposal to the forthcoming Council, for an EU Commission's President, on the basis of Nice Treaty : So, we (EU Council) will not appoint the Commissioners. Only the President. If EU Parliament agrees, it could endorse this position on July", explained Sarkozy.
But, on Autumn, "if Ireland ratifies Lisbon Treaty, there will be, at any case, a 2nd Decision, to appoint the Commission's President, this time on the basis of Lisbon treaty, and then, we, the EU Member States, would have to appoint (also) the EU Commissioners", he added.
As for the precise Timing : - "Everything is suspended until the Irish vote... Now, we must all make everything possible to help Ireland to say "Yes"" to Lisbon Treaty... The Irish Referendum, ..will take place either on September or on October. It's a Question which depends on the Irish. And, then, we shall have the Choice of the Candidates for the permanent Institutions of Europe".
However, "if Ireland says No, we, French and Germans, have to assume our responsibilities, and we'll do so", he concluded.
But British and Swedish governments were reportedly eager to have a final EU Council decision on Barroso since this month, on June's European Council. While the other EU Member Countries are divided, several of them preferring to wait until EU Parliament pronounces itself, on July, and/or until Lisbon Treaty might be ratified by Ireland at the beginning of the Autumn. Barroso's current mandate ends on November.
There are also various, contradictory and/or unpredictable reactions inside EU Parliament vis a vis Barroso's wish to continue a 2nd mandate, because many MEPs are openly or secretly opposed, reluctant, or hesitating.
In the biggest EU Countries, as France and Germany, EU Citizens voted on June 2009 EU Elections for a renovated, non-technocratic but Political Europe which cares for its Citizens, with an Identity, Values and Borders, declared incompatible with Turkey's controversial EU bid, by mainstream, pro-European Governing Parties. Similar choices were also supported in several other small or medium EU Countries.
On the contrary, whenever, in other Countries, Governing and other mainstream Parties didn't make these choices or eluded them, EU Citizens massively voted for euro-Sceptics whenever they were the only ones to to promise anti-bureacratic change and oppose Turkey's demand to enter into the EU, (f.ex. in the UK, Netherlands, etc).
It's seems to be an Open Question whether Sarkozy and Merkel's conditions will be really accepted by Barroso, who was appointed on 2004 in a different political context, (with Socialist Prime Ministers in Germany, France, etc), had rejected in the Past the idea of EU becoming "equal to the USA" as "ridiculous", and pushed for Turkey's contoversial EU bid, trying to "soften" or contain the changes desired by the People who voted for Merkel and Sarkozy with another policy vis a vis Turkey on 2005 in Germany and on 2007 in France, as they did all over Europe on 2009.
In addition to many EPP Governments, it's 3 remaining Socialist Prime Ministers : Gordon Brown in the UK, Zapatero in Spain, and Socrates in Prortugal, who support Barroso, as well as Liberal Swedish Prime Minister Reinfeldt. But their Parties lost the June 2009 EU Elections.
Questioned whether there was still "Time" for "other" possible "Candidates", Sarkozy and Merkel did not deny, nor made any comment on that, but simply said that "it's not for us to make publicity for any candidates. We anounced our choice ("A Program, and Mr. Barroso"). But we respect any other candidate".
Among various other names cited are former Belgian Prime Minister Verhofstadt, former UNO's Human Rights Commissioner Mary Robinson of Ireland, Italian former EU Commission's vice-President Monti, etc. Meanwhile, Luxembourg's PM Juncker, (who had been unanimously accepted by EU Council for EU Commission's Presidency on 2004, but refused), announced his intention to resign from "EuroGroup"'s Chair. Thus, he might be available for another Top EU job.
As "EuroFora"'s "opinion" said (See publication dated 9/6/09) : - "If the current candidates (i.e. Barroso, etc) to the Top EU jobs promise and guarantee to respect People's democratic choices, then, it's OK".
"Otherwise, Europe must find new candidates, really motivated and able to implement these democratic choices of the People."
Because, "in Democracy, the forthcoming choices for EU's Top Jobs,...should be made according to EU Citizens' Votes in June 7, 2009 European Elections, and main EU Governments' strategic policies".