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FULL TEXT: Nobel prize Prof. Montagnier on Lab-Made Virus, Reply to Critics +Call for BioEthic rules

Written by ACM
Friday, 17 April 2020

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*Strasbourg/Angelo Marcopolo/- Most Medias curiously Skiped the Arguments against a Natural, but for an Artificial set up of the Virus by a Lab, that Nobel Prize Biology+Virology Professor Luc Montagnier (the co-Discoverer of HIV) just used at his 2 First Interviews in France, (one Short, in a Radio, and anOther Long, in a TV), as well as his Concluding Appeal for Respect of Bio-Ethical Rules World-wide, in order to Prevent Other such Deadly Pandemics etc. in the Future, (See infra).

A very Interesting point is that Professor Montagnier already REPLIED, with several Concrete Arguments, to the Fast-Track, mostly Superficial Criticism and Dismissal of his Findings, by Many Commentators from the Establishment, which immediately Attacked him even Personally, obviously Pushing Most Medias to Drop any really Full Presentation of his Sayings "on the Facts", thus Depriving the People from a Real Chance to clearly Judge where the Truth might be...

This appears so more Scandalously Anti-Deontological for the Press, and Anti-Democratic in general, as Montagnier clearly Distinguished between "the FACTS", (which concern the Artificial Fabrication of the Virus by a Lab, and the Need to respect Bio-Ethical Rules), and his "THOUGHTS", "Beliefs" or Hypothesis, (related to "Who and Why" made that Virus, What might happen in the foreseable Future, and what "Solution" could be given to try to Prevent so many Deaths), as we shall see Infra.

Moreover, he Denounced that some in the Establishment attempt to Hide the Truth.

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(1) AN ARTIFICIAL FABRICATION BY A LAB and PRESSURE TO MUZZLE THE TRUTH                                                                                                                                                                       

 It's by working Together with his Collegue, Bio-Mathematician Jean-Claude Perez, and Following a relevant Publication also by an Indian Group of Researchers (See Infra), that Professor Montagnier, a Biologist and Virologist himself, claims to have Found the following Facts, about an Artificial Fabrication of COVID-19 Virus by a Lab :

 - "My Work is just to State the Facts, that's all" :

- That Virus' Genome includes "a Sequence of HIV, but also of Malaria", etc.

- In fact, "Over a Classic Virus' genome, has been Added a Part with a series, a Sequence of HIV".

- This is "Not Natural", but "the Job of a Molecular Biologist. A Professional Work. Very Delicate. Like Watch-Craft", he stressed.

- "It's Not a Natural Mutation, because, in order to be made, it Needs Molecular Tools, a Lab", he warned

+ "That HIV Part is Not just Anything : F.ex., it includes a Key Part", (which might act like a Vaccine against anOther Virus, etc).

=> "Conclusion : A (Genetic) Manipulation was at the Origin of that Virus".

- It canNot be Natural, because "there is a Concentration : Accross a Long Ruban of 30.OOO Bases, all that (Addition) is Concentrated in just Less than 1.000 Basis" : "A Part made by HIV", that "you can Find with a Mathematical Tool".

=> - "But it's Enough in order to Modify what is called an "Anti-Gene Site" : I.e. Modify that Virus' Protein, in order to make the Immunity System recognize (perceive) it as a HIV".

- To those who claim that these Sequences would be "Too Short, so that they could be Natural", "there is a Reply : - But, those Sequences bear a certain Genetic Information, (i.e. with a Functional Logic : Comp. Supra), and are Not Random, Contrary to those who Claim that it would be due to Pure Chance"...

- In fact, "It's a Sequence of Nucleotides", and "there are 4.000 Different Nucleotides... So that it canNot be just by Chance !", he smiled.

- And, "Put a Natural Object, Inside anOther Natural Object", is Not so "Natural", he clearly implied...

- All "these are Facts. They canNot be Denied", he stressed.

- Obviously, "this is a CoronaVirus, transmitted by Aerian way".

 - However, "if one works on (i.e. Manipulates) the ... Surface of a Virus, he can Modify its Tropism, so that it could Attack anOther kind of Cells than before", Professor Montagnier observed.

- Because, (in Labos) "Everything is Possible Nowadays. In Molecular Biology, they can Make Any Virus they Like !", he Warned.

=> So that, f.ex., Professor Montagnier agreed with a Question on whether "it's Possible that this Virus' High Contagion capacity might be Linked to its Artificial Fabrication" :

- Very Probably, he Replied : "Because the Virus' Transmission is related to a Link between its Protein and a Receptor in Cells, so that, More that Virus Finds Receptors, More it will Stick and Penetrate, Transmitting (Genetic) Information inside" those cells.

+ And to another Question, whether "this Virus does Exploit a Weakening of our Immunity System", he also Replied Positively :

 -  "Indeed, I Believe that we are living in an Environment very much Different from that of our Ancestors, f.ex. by Augmenting (Electro-Magnetic) Waves, more and more : That's an Issue which should be Explored". F.ex., we saw that Wuhan's Region was advanced in "G5" Networks, with 10.000 Antennas there ! This might have contributed in Spreading such a Malign Virus"...

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+ But, it seems that "there is a Will to Hide the Truth !", about this Artificial Fabrication of the Virus in a Lab, Professor Montagnier Denounced.

=> F.ex., an "Indian Group" of Researchers, who had Recently Published a relevant Article in a Sientific Review, suprizingly, afterwards, "were Obliged to Withdraw" their publication...

+ And, "in China, someone Must put a Signature before Any such Publication" on the Virus. However, "My Role is Not to Evaluate China", and, at any case, "China canNot Control All the World"...

- But "there is a Will to Muzzle",  as "they Forced the Indian Research Group to Retract", after "Pressure by the Editors", etc., just "Weeks ago".

=> Thus, indeed, "there can be Pressure from All International and National" (+other) "Organisations which have an Interest to Hide the Truth", Professor Montagnier warned.

- In general, "there is a Huge Pressure to make a Black-Out on this Virus' Origin".

- "I do Not Know" for "which Interests", But "these are Facts", and "they canNot be Denied".

- But, on the Contrary, "I Can work Freely", because, inter alia, "I am a Nobel Prize" winner, and "there is No Pressure able to Influence me ... Nothing can Pressure me  !", Professor Montagnier boasted, proudly and bravely, (already Known for Daring to Support also various Other Controversial or Risky positions in "Hot" Scientific Debates in the Past).

Nevertheless, in the Past, Montagnier has been even Personally Attacked himself by several other Establishment's top Technocrats, as he claims, Because he "had Defended another Scientist, on a Controversial Issue, that many seeked to Cover-up, Hindering (Scientific) Research", and even "Ill-Treating him", he Replied to a Critical Question, meanwhile.

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(2) UNKNOWN CREATOR + AIM

- However, "I do NOT Know WHO Created that, and WHY", he clearly pointed out.

- "The Aim is Not Clear", Professor Montagnier Carefuly stressed from the outset.

- "Only those who Made that (Virus), could, One Day, tell the Truth (about their real Aim)".

- But, "a Possibility is, perhaps, that Someone might have attempted to create a Vaccine against anOther Virus", etc, he Speculated, apparently Downplaying the issue...

- However, "I doN't know the Aim", and "I doN"t Blame Anyone".

- But, eventually, "a Vaccine is initialy Tested on Animals". And "there Might be a Leakage by Someone who Manipulates that, and doesn't take Precautions", he speculated.

- Thus, it's not excluded that "this Virus was Created by the Chinese Labo of Wuhan, or anOther Labo", Elsewhere.

 Interestingly, at his 2nd and Longest INTW, Professor Montagnier made it Crystal-Clear that his "Fact"-Based Analysis (Comp. Supra), a priori, was Not Necessarily Limited Only at China's Lab in Wuhan, But concerned, rather, Simply the Virus' Fabrication "By A Lab", whatever.

- At any case, even if it might have been made at Wuhan, "It's Not Only China" who could be Responsible, because "there was also Important Funding and, may be, even Scientists from the USA, in these Researches".

- USA have Financed a part of what was being done inside Wuhan Labo. So, this is Not Only a Chinese affair !"...

[ He apparently evoked at least a 3,7 Millions $ Grant by USA's NIH to Wuhan's Bio Lab, during Former POTUS Barack Hussein Obama, on 2015, recently Reminded at a 2020 Press Conference of Trump at the White House on the Virus.

Might be Added also the Recent Arrest (1/2020) of a Harvard's Dean on Chemistry/Biology  for Hidding big Payments by China in order, inter alia, to help Select and Recruit Scientists for Projects of Wuhan's Bio-Lab.

+Moreover, Wuhan's Lab has been Build by a French Company, and a Similar Lab ("Level 4")exists at France's Lyon City, located Between Strasbourg and NW Italy, while Relations exist also with the Head of INSERM, the National Organisation for Medical Research.

++ And a Big Corporation, Headquartered in Australia, has also Invested heavily in Plasma Fabricators at Wuhan, since 2015, while Plasma's AntiCorps became, Nowadays, a Leading Hypothesis for a possible Medical Treatment of the Virus, both in China and Elsewhere in the World, (including, particularly, the USA, etc).

+++ Last, but not least, the existence of very Close Links between some Chinese Researchers and strong USA Networks in Bio-Tech. Issues concerning particulaly Genetic Manipulations, was Recently revealed, inter alia, Also by the Scandal, on Automn 2019, of a Young Chinese Doctor who secretly practiced controversial Genetic Manipulations of Human Embryos, and even 3 Artificial Births of Babies bearing Genetic Mutations Heritable by Future Generations, (i.e. Abusing of an outlawed  Technology Dangerous for all Humankind), while being Educated, Funded, Publicized, closely Linked and Otherwise Backed by some Rich and Powerful Bio-Tech and Socio-Political Lobbies of the USA, related to Former POTUS Barack Hussein Obama ("Socialist"/Liberal : See, among others, f.ex., also : ..., etc, as well as Infra)].

=> At any case, "China is also a Victim of that" Virus, Professor Montagnier reminded.

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(3) Possible FUTURE + SOLUTION

=> AnOther Striking Point is that, precisely, the Artificial Origin of that Virus, (Comp. Supra), Might, perhaps, give some "Hope" that it could "Disappear" progressively, by Natural means, Professor Montagnier, optimisticaly speculated :  

+ Indeed, "My Collegue Perez (a Bio-Mathematician) Believes that there is a kind of Harmonisation  : If you make an abnatural fabrication, it has few chances to survive. I.e. Nature likes Harmony, and Not a Virus made by anOther Virus, etc", he said.

- "So, what is happening Nowadays, f.ex. in some USA's areas, seems to be that Virus' Mutations are Deleting a part of those Nucleotides inside its Genome, and, what is ExtraOrdinary, is that this Part of HIV Sequence is currently Mutating much More and Faster than Anyone Other"....

- So that, "mainly in USA's Eastern Coast, at Seattle, that Sequence has almost been Demolished !".

=> In Consequence, "one may think that it would Disappear"...

>>> So, "there is a Glimpse of a HOPE", (and "this is My 2nd Message") !

 - In Practice, "we must Follow the Genetic Mutations of the Virus", (which are, usually, frequent, amidst Transmissions), in order to verify the "Prediction" that it would become "more and more Mutated, Deleted", so that "its Hardest Consequences would Fade away..."

 - Thus, "what is More Important, Nowadays, for All of us, is not just How this Virus appeared, (Comp. Supra), but What will Happen Now ? And, there, I give you a Glimpse of Hope that this Virus might Disappear... "

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"Seattle" Lake's flat Rainbow, USA, April 2020 - "a Glimpse of Hope" ?...

(Cessna Kutz Photo/NE/Eurofora screenshot)

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But thus might happen too Late for several Victims of the virus...

- Even in case of an eventual, Gradual Weakening and/or "Disappearance" of that Virus (Comp. Supra), Meanwhile, too "Many People are Dying", Every Day.

- So that we obviously have to search "a Solution" for Nowadays, asap, went-on to Add Professor Montagnier.

=> - "For a Solution, a Pioneer Approach that I have, is that Electro-Magnetic Waves may Transform the Frequences of that (Artificial Genetic) Sequence, as an Alien Body, (Comp. Supra), and, may be, we could Distinguish it from the Rest of that Virus, and Destroy it with Electric Pulses", he imagined.

 - But, "for the Time being, this is just a <<Science Fiction>> story, because I must have the (material) Means to make that. Otherwise..."

(NDLR: Professor Montagnier is also Famous for a Controversial Theory concerning Electro-Magnetic Waves and Human Genome, in general).

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(4) NEED for BIO-ETHICal RULES respect

>>> At any case, in order to Prevent Other such Pandemics in the Future, "we Must, absolutely Exclude that something like this might be Repeated, in one way or another. That's Obvious !"

- "Certainly, there are Rules" (to observe, for Bio-Technocrats), "But it's Not Probable that they might be Observed by Everybody accross the World", he Warned...

=> "So, I think that Everybody Must Respect the ETHICAL Rules for (Bio-Tech) Researchers", NOBEL Prize winner, Professor Montagnier stressed in Conclusion.

  - "As there are also Ethical Rules for Medical Doctors, to Never Kill by any Medical Treatment : That's Really Fundamental !"

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 + *** By a striking Coincidence, China was announced as Hit by Deadly CoronaVirus (on December 31, 2019), just 1 Day After having Published (on December 30, 2019) a Strong Punishment and Denonciation for the UnEthical and Dangerous for Humankind, Heritable Genetic Manipulation of 3 Babies born Artificially, secretely arranged by a Young Chinese Doctor Educated, Funded, Backed and Influenced mainly by some USA Bio-Tech Lobbies linked to Former POTUS Barack Hussein Obama (of the "Socialist"/Liberal Party : See Facts at http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/chinacondemnsheritablegeneediting.html + http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/heritablegenemaniptrumpxihumanity.html, etc).

Meanwhile, in Addition, inter alia, even a Harvard University's Dean on Chemistry and Biology was Recently Arrested and Persecuted by New USA President Don Trump's Administration, just a Few Months Ago, officially for curiously Hidding the Fact that he was Paid by some Foreign, Chinese Authorities, inter alia, also to help Find and Recruit Scientists, from all over the World, needed for certain undisclosed Projects at the Bio-Lab of Wuhan... (even if there is Not yet any official Explicit link to CoronoVirus made in Public until now).

Both Chinese and USA Presidents Xi and Trump, as well as European EU/CoE Leaders, (where CoE's ''Oviedo" Convention on Bio-Ethics Prohibits Genetic Manipulations Heritable by Next Generations), were Expected - just at the Eve of Deadly CoronoVirus' outbreak- to take part, in one way or another, on that "Hot" New Issue Dangerously Affecting all Humankind, (See, f.ex., inter alia, also : http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/heritablegenemaniptrumpxihumanity.html + http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/euchinaspaceandbioethics.html + http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/eppvpresidentandmepsongermlinemanipban.html, http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/newcoesgonbioethics.html , etc).

But, Instead, all out of Sudden, All of them, were notoriously accaparated by that Unforseen, Deadly Virus' Pandemic, which has successively  hit Hard, Particularly China, Europe and the USA...

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=> Meanwhile, an International Investigation, by the WHO/UNO to Find Who may have Fabricated that Deadly Virus and Why, as well as How it Spread so easily around the World, was asked, among Various Others, also by Former Twice-Elected President of Iran (which has been also Hardly hit), Ahmadinejad (See: http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/ahmadinejadonlabomadevirus1.html + http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/ahmadinejadonlabomadevirus2.html), and Australia's Foreign Minister Marise Payne, etc., while even US President Trump partly Discussed that, and French President Macron denounced such "Gray Zones" (etc)... 

>>> World Leaders had just Missed a Timely Chance to deal with Elementary Bio-Ethical Principles' respect at their Latest "G7" Summit on August 2019, at Biarritz (See: http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/flopsatbiarritzg7summit.html). Will they Now Rectify that Error, at least during the present "G7" of 2020, chaired by USA, after such a Deadly Pandemic, probably Lab-Made ?

But, if they do, this time, it should be, naturally, done by Video-Conference, and Include Russia (as Back on the "G8" Era) as well as China (may be a "G9", expected since the 2011 Deauville Summmit ? Comp: http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/sarkozymedvedevdealslavrovmargelov.html, etc), if not a UN Security Council special meeting,(as Presidents Macron and Putin recently discussed), etc...

 

 

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("Draft-News",

with Fast Translation from the Original in French).

 

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    An "Eugenic" loophole Amendment, which might expose to Dangers reminiscent of "3rd Reich's" notorious Genetic Abuses, hidden at the last minute inside an otherwise Good, larger Health policy Package scheduled to be voted on Thursday, was strongly denounced by a coalition of MEPs from various Political Groups and Countries, in a Press Conference held this afternoon at EU Parliament in Strasbourg.

    Mainly calling to "Select Human Embryos", via "Genetic Counselling" and "pre-implantation" Techniques including "Genetic Tests", in order to "Eradicate Hereditary rare Diseases", it might open ways to Dangerous Practices in Future, they denounced in substance.

    But they also made it clear that a much larger Report inside which this Controversial Amendment "No 15" was added in dubious circumstances, officialy destinated to struggle against "Rare Diseases", and drafted by Professor Antonios Trakatellis, was otherwise "an Excellent Report", aiming at a "completely Uncontroversial target" of Health policy on which "all MEPs and Experts are united, believing that Europe should act" to protect People's Health (See "EuroFora"'s earlier News).

    The controversy came at a particularly delicate moment for the EU in relation to Citizens, at the eve of June 2009 EU Elections, and shortly before Ireland re-votes for "Lisbon Treaty"..    

- Denouncing risks of "an Eugenic demand, very similar to what we had during the 3rd Reich in Germany, but now coming from some Scientisists themselves", German ChristianDemocrat/EPP MEP Dr. Peter Liese stressed that critical MEPs were against "Eugenic" engineering with "Selection of Human Embryos", and anything which might ultimately lead up to to a "Selection of Human Race". It doesn't help to "eradicate" Human Lives, he added.


    Several Experts and NGOs expressed "Deep Concern", as f;ex. DR M.C. Cornel of the "European Society of Human Genetics", which stressed, on this occasion, that "the importance of Non-Directiveness in Reproductive issues is a Central characteristic of Human Genetics, after the Atrocities committed in the name of Genetics in the first half or the 20th Century".

     - "This is completely Unacceptable", stressed Italian Liberal MEP Vittorio Prodi, on the Controversial Amendment, also because pushes to "eliminate early Human Life", as he noted.

     - "This opens a Dangerous Road, rather a Motorway", denounced Danish MEP Mrs Margrette Auken, from the "Greens", observing that various similar attempts were made in the Past "not only in Germany, but also in several other Countries, "even at the 1970ies", "f.ex. on forced Sterilisation of Roma" People, and other criticisable situations f.ex. in the UK, in Sweden, etc. as she said.

    + Other NGOs, as f.ex. "LebenHilfe" from Berlin, added that, among various other Risks, could also be that, by exploiting the pre-implantation Genetic Diagnostics and the Selection of "healthy" Embryos, some may "propagate" several "Eugenic" aims, starting f.ex. by pushing to eradicate Human Livies which might "Cost too much" to preserve, ultimately exposing to dangers reminiscent of the "3rd Reich"'s atrocious abuses.

    In consequence, ChristianDemocrats/EPP and "Green" MEPs "decided by Majority to vote against" this Controversial Amendment, anounced to Journalists the 5 MEPs who participated in the Press Conference, representing a wide spectrum, from Liberals to "Greens" and ChristianDemocrats, and from Hungary, Italy, Germany and Danemark up to Ireland (Gay Mitchell), etc.
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    Hungarian ChristianDemocrat MEP Laszlo Surjan said "that it was "Suddenly, at the End of the Procedure" in Committee, that "appeared this (Controversial) Amendment, which has nothing to do" with the main purpose of the Report, on which all agreed.

    He denounced an "Unhonest" move, and called to "avoid this kind of unacceptable situations". Nobody should "Select People", Surjan stressed.

    - "We (MEPs) had No Chance to Discuss" this last-minute Amendment earlier added at a Committee's level, said German MEP Peter Liese

    Speaking to "EuroFora", Dr. Liese, the Spokesman of the ChristianDemocrat/EPP Group in EU Parliament, said that MEPs didn't oppose other references of the Report f.ex. on "Genetic Tests", because they were "no proposals" to impose them, while, on the contrary, there was "a Problem" if anyone attempted to "impose" f.ex. this or that Genetic Technique and "Genetic Counselling", etc. to the People on human reproduction.
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    Controversial parts of Amendment No 15 ask mainly "to lead finally to the Eradication" of "Hereditary" "rare diseases", "through Genetic Counselling .., and ..pre-Implantation Selection of healthy Embryos".

    But  EU Rapporteur Professor Trakatellis, said to "EuroFora" that fears should be alleviated by Guarantees that all this should be done only "where appropriate", when it's "not contrary to existing National Law", and "always on a Voluntary basis", according to other Parts of the Amendment.

    He stressed that the main aim was to allow "a free and informed choice of persons involved", without imposing them anything :  - "It's not an obligatory, but advisary" text, he said.

    To make that point clear, he was ready, in agreement with many MEPs, to eventually drop at least that part of the controversial Amendment which initially called for "efforts to ..lead finally to the Eradication of those rare diseases" "which are Hereditary".

    But, until late Wednesday evening, reportedly together with many other MEPs, he stood by all the rest of the controversial Amendment, (fex. on the "Genetic Counselling" and the "pre-implantation Selection of healthy Embryos"), so that critical MEPs, going from ChristianDemocrats as Dr. Liese, to "Greens" or "Ind/Dem", observed to "EuroFora" that "this was not enough" to close the dangerous loophole.

    Particularly since, as Professor Trakatellis noted himself, "this is already allowed to the U.K.", and "other National Legislations would probably follow, sooner or later" in a similar direction. As for a general call to "Eradicate Hereditary rare Diseases", this "should happen, at any case, in practice, de facto", to protect public Health.

    On the contrary, "our goal should be to help patients suffering from rare diseases, not to eradicate the patients. In case of genetic disease risk, the decision should not be guided by scenarios" made by politicians. "Perents who may decide to accept a child, even if handicapped or with genetic disease, must be respected and supported with solidarity", critical MEPs stated.

    - "Any Pressure" to "a patient or couple (who "should be able to make an informed choice consistent with their own values"),"from health Professionals, Public Health Policies or Governemental Institutions, or Society at large, should be avoided", stresses the "European Society for Human Genetics".

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Each MEP's vote will be registered !

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The Socialist Group requested a "Split vote" on the Amendment 15, first without, and afterwards with the words "lead finally to the Eradication" etc.


    But the first "split vote" leaves intact all the other parts of the Controversial Amendment, (i.e. "Genetic Counselling", "Selection of healthy Embryos", etc).

    That's why, 3 Groups of MEPs : ChristianDemocrats/EPP, "Greens/EFA", and "Ind/Dem", have asked for "Roll Call Votes", on everything regarding the Controversial Amendment No 15, and on the final outcome of the resulting Report as amended, which will register all the individual positions to be taken by each MEP.   

Something which will obviously make each MEP think twice before voting for one or another choice, to be sure that he/she will make the right choice in front of EU Citizens, particularly at these pre-Election times...


    Crucial Votes were scheduled between 12 Noon and 1 p.m. local Strasbourg time, in the middle of a long series of various other Reports, and after a long Public Debate on the larger Health policy package, from 9 to 11.50 am.

    The specific Report inside which was hidden the controversial Amendment is due to be debated between 11 and 12 am.

    So that more last-minute Surprises may not be excluded a priori...

    Particularly at the present Historic moment, when even the Institutional Future of the EU depends on the result of a second Referendum on "Lisbon Treaty", later this year, in ...Ireland, a mainly Catholic country, where People are particularly sensitive in such kind of socio-cultural and values issues...
 

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