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POTUS Trump fans Back Iran f. President Ahmadinejad move v. Labo-made Virus +Anti-Human Criminals /A

*Strasbourg/Angelo Marcopolo/- An astonishing New Fact is the UnExpected Convergence between USA President Trump's Fans and former Iranian President Ahmadinejad, (usually Opposed against eachother), into Raising Critical Questions about whether the Deadly Virus COVID-19 was artificially Fabricated in a Labo, via Genetic Manipulations, eventually by a Group of Criminals Hidding behind that "Anti-Human" Pandemia, or not.
The New CoranoVirus is notoriously a part of a Series of similar Virus, as that of "SARS", which had striken against China etc. at around 2000-2003, (i.e. when the Human Genome was decifered, for the 1st Time in History). Curiously, even if it Killed a lot of People, neverteless, No Treatment, Neither any Vaccine wasn't yet found against SARS, until Now (2020). But it was Followed Later also by another "Parent" Virus, that of "MERS", (for "Mediterrannean Respiratory Syndrom"), etc., also Dangerous. And Nowadays, (2019-2020), the New offspring of "COVID-19" appears Faster and Wider Spreading, as well as More Deadly, without clearly Knowing yet how Long it might durate.
Ahmadinejad, who had been Twice Elected President of Iran, on 2005 and 2009, with a 61% and 62% High score of Votes, but apparently Hindered by the Regime of Islamist Clerics to take part anew at the 2017 Elections, has reportedly Questioned, already, the Emergence of "HIV", (also against the Human Immunity System), and had Asked for an International Investigation on Who might be really Behind the 9/11 Massive Deadly Barbaric Terrorism.
However, this time, Despite a Notorious Tension and Conflict between the Ruling Political Right in the USA and Iran Nowadays, when, After Iran was Hardly Hit by that New Virus, Ahmadinejad send 2 Letters to UNO's Secretary General, Antonio Guterres, and WHO's Director Director General, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, on 9 and 10 March 2020 respectively, attributing "the Mutated CoronaVirus" to the "Production in a Lab", "by the Warfare stock houses of Biological War", constituting "a Threat on Humanity", against the Instigators of which, he called to take certain International Measures, Surprisingly, a lot of US President Don Trump Fans, immediately rushed to Exceptionaly Welcome and Support such a Message !
Such an UnExpected and extremely Rare (if not withOut any known Precedent) Attitude, became Obvious, inter alia, also at the Famous pro-Trump Web NewsMedia "Breitbart", whose numerous Readers and Registered Commentators are Notoriously Known for having always been a Core-Part of the Northern American alternative Right, as well as particularly "Hot", Convinced and Deeply Faithful socio-Political Supporters of USA President Don Trump (See Infra).
- In his 1st Letter to UNO's SG, Ahmadinejad stresses that "the Mutated and Intelligent CoronaVirus 2019, was Produced in Laboratories", and "is much more Anti-Human, Destructive and Horrible, than ...Other Anti-Human Weapons", provoking an "Imposed War and Invasion against Humanity".
- In fact, this is used as "a New Weapon, for establishing and/or maintaining Political and Economic Upper Hand in the Global Arena, by some (UnNamed) Domineering Powers", seeking to deepen "the Dominance of Devilish/Anti-Human Powers", by "Mass-Killing Weapons and ...perpetration of Anti-Human Crimes", he denounced.
=> In consequence, Ahmadinejad, in his 2nd Letter, to WHO's DG, calls for the "immediate Identification of the Lab that Produced, and the elements that Spread the Virus, as well as Other Centers that Support this Biological War, and identifying the Perpetrators to the Global Community".
- Indeed, "Transparent, Public and UnBiased Dissemination of Informaton regarding the Perpetrators of this Anti-Human Crime, is an Important Factor in Controlling that Anti-Human Weapon", he pointed out.
>>> This should help, "with special Scrutiny", to "Identify the elements involved in the Production and Use of (such) Biologic Weapons, and strictly Penalize them, at World-wide scale", he continued at his 1st Letter to UNO's SG. Because, Otherwise, "Indifference and Lack of Serious and Effective Confrontaton with them, can Ruin the Relations among Countries and Nations, and Threaten seriously the Existence of Nations", Ahmadinejad warned.
+ In fact, "the United Nations" are "expected to Strongly Slam the Anti-Human action by World Criminal Powers, in imposing the Biologic War on Nations, aimed at Domineering, and doN't allow to the Perpetrators of such Crimes to realize their Political-Economic Crimes and Evil Plans ...by White-Washing" their wrong-doings.
- Perhaps, "the Weakness or Failure on the part of State Officials, in Some Countries, in performing their HealthCare Duties vis-a-vis the People, has had an effect on the size of Spread and the Damage caused by the Epidemic, which is a matter to be Judged by the Nations", Ahmadinejad rightfully notes in his Letter to the WHO, (given, indeed, some Astonishing Ommissions to Timely Protect the People, in certain Countries, particularly Compared to Others). - "But the Main Responsibility of production and distribution of the Virus, by the Laboratories that Produced it, and those perpetrating a Biologic War on Nations, should never be overlooked".
++ Moreover, on this occasion, Widely speaking, his Letter to the UN adds "a Plan to Modify and ReinForce the (UN) Convention on the Ban on production and use of Biologic Weapons", should "be Drafted ad submitted to the UN General Assembly", in particular "foreseing Executive Measures for Effective/Strict Supervision and Control, and Penalizing any move in that direction, via the Transparent Participation of All Governments and Nations", as he also suggests.
Significantly, Ahmadinejad does Not Limit the Scope, concerning all those Responsible for such alleged "Anti-Human Crimes", only to some (UnNamed) States or Countries, but, by speaking repeatedly about "Powers", (Comp. Supra), he obviously includes also any eventual Trans-National, Public-private Networks...
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=> Many Pro-Trump "Breitbart" USA Web-NewsMedia Registered Commentators' reactions (Comp. Supra) are, Surprizingly, exceptionaly Positive, at the above-mentioned Critical Questions, Denonciations, and Calls by the Former Iranian President :
Among Many others, see, f.ex. also :
- "Even a BLIND squirrel finds a nut! Or, in this case it was the NUT finding the nut", ironically commented "Maus Guest" at Breitbart.
- "GeorgeSoros is manipulating the markets again?", suggested "MTK Henie".
- "It's the global deep state. To me it's open season if what they did cost lives", suspected "Gordo".
- "Virtually no one seems to consider the possibility that the virus could have been released by globalist forces/entities from outside of China. Wuhan would be the perfect cover as a place to begin. Just ask Dean Koontz. In that same vein, it is just as plausible that the same forces/entities are intentionally spreading the virus to selected locations around the world. Instead, confirmation bias rules the day. Down with China! The likes of John Brennan and GS are just sitting back and laughing", observed "denver likeawow".
- "Its possible, anything is possible, but I doubt that Globalists would want to do this much damage to their beloved international system of travel & commerce. On the other hand, this does have the potential to strengthen their grip on global politics & medicine. Trump's economy taking a beating is also a worthy goal for them. As I see it, this is a real virus and the Left/Globalists are just using the crisis to bash Trump, as usual. They are shameless", nuanced "Israel_Reconquista".
- "I would argue that China’s leading Bioweapons expert, Major General Chen Wei, is the one who knows something and needs to be questioned. She was dispatched to Wuhan very shortly after the outbreak. Now she has been put in charge of the lab in Wuhan. She spent many years of her career working specifically with Coronaviruses. A few days after the magnitude of the outbreak was understood, China sent out a directive to all of its biolabs that were “working with advanced coronaviruses” that they needed to “strengthen their containment protocols”. Scientists working at that lab have previously been arrested for selling lab animals to the very same “wet market” where the virus originated, and those animals were slaughtered live in the market and sold for human consumption, according to Stephen Mosher and the New York Post. Those are too many coincidences for me. If the General won’t submit to questioning, capture her and interrogated her in a secure military facility", suggested "Lycurgus_the_Law_Giver".
- "It's been reported that there's a connection to a Harvard professor paid by China to consult on setting up the Wuhan lab. He's been arrested", said, on the Contrary, "bwazcat mercury".
- "Sørøs is on the top of the China situation, he is aiming to short the Chinese economy. Everyone is freed up to protest against communists at the DNC headquarters", insisted "Henie mercury".
- "...We KNOW the patent numbers for the man-made ovid-19 virus, its man-made cure,and its man-made 'alleged' vaccine. We all know who developed it and owns it. Look up "Sir Pirbright" of the English peerage. Look up "Pirbright Institute, Wuhan China", also a British institution", observed "Howard Lewis".
- "I would like nothing more then to send a Tomahawk missile toward this clown, but he (Ahmadinejad) DOES have a point", characteristically admits "American-Bird-of-Prey".
=> Thus, "We need to find this lab and go through it and see what other little nasty surprises that could be unleashed on the planet. The virus was not a natural virus and its targeting the most vulnerable among us by design, remember Communist regimes hate the elderly because they are a burden on the State and they don't produce, remember Obama's "Death Panels" from Obamacare?", he adds.
- "It’s a bio engineered virus. It was crossed with one or two other virus’s and DNA. It’s referred to as ‘gain of function’. Scientists who have studied it said it appears that it allows the virus to more easily attach to the host with the T receptors on its exterior, the corona, if u will", describes "TheMagnificentDeplorable".
- "Good luck with that!!! Heroic Dr.s in China sounded the alarm in NOV. and all they got was a death sentence ... China REFUSED to let specialist into their country until sometime in FEB. They waited for EVERYONE -- the world -- to finish their travels and celebrations during Dec. and new year's -- ie infecting the world in a short amount of time -- until something was really done about the C-Virus ... The reality is that China owns us ... look at Bloomberg and others like him who've sold us out to increase profits .. all the while ignoring the cost to our country.. the politicians are to blame as well as the VOTERS who elected them ...", suspects "A.T."
- "It was the Long duk wong lab", jokes "VictoriaRules".
- "I thought it came from the Hu Dik Tup labs", replies "Ric Parks".
- "The coronavirus came from the chicoms' P4 bioweapons lab in Wuhan. ....", for "MJAC".
- ""WHO Director-General Tedros said on Monday he believes the coronavirus could be “the first pandemic in history that could be controlled.” He noted that it is an “uneven epidemic,” with 93 percent of its cases grouped into four countries, one of which is Iran."...", noted "Don heve".
- "Ahmadinejad never once mentioned the Chinese...There's no doubt who he wants to pin this on...and it's not China. The question I ask is how did Iran get infected so fast while the rest of the Middle East is relatively unscathed...unless they had Chinese coming and going frequently...perhaps helping them with some 'project'...considering the number of Iranian officials who've contracted it suggests the Chinese exposure was at the 'highest levels' of the Iranian regime. BCNU...", suspects "John Drake".
- "ORGAN HARVESTING IS LEGAL IN IRAN.", claims "Bannaghar".
- "There's a damn good reason China disallowed CDC entry for samples, they could TELL early if it was engineered/edited and w/CRISPR clip& snip you can BET we'll see even MORE of this in the near future. VERY soon..And w/our reliance on China for RX's/chemicals we're screwed unless Trump ends this insanity. See testimony from Rosemary Gibson to House Energy & Commerce Comm. on 10/30/19, ten pages of sanity completely ignored by the "media", (www.energycommerce.house.gov) according to "steve merrill".
- "Compare the gene sequence with known gene sequences using a supercomputer.....bioinformatics", suggests "Cali Broheim".
-"We all know. ---------- Had U.S. investigators been allowed in they would have traced it back to the petri dish in the Wuhan Bio Lab", claims "Klay".
- "But that's almost too obvious. Funny truth is Sor@ss is invested in this lab, at this address : "WuXi PharmaTech Inc. 666 Gaoxin Road East Lake High-tech Development Zone Wuhan 430075, China", denounces "Elf of Destruction".
- "My guess is after this Coronavirus took out a few of their Clerics and Mullahs, the Iranians view of China has been somewhat soured. Remember Mullahs are their religious leaders, it would be just like if the Coronavirus was running wild through the Vatican for Catholics and Christians. Wouldn't we feel the same way if that were the case? The Iranians want revenge now that it is confirmed to be a Chinese designed pathogen", imagined "American-Bird-of-Prey".
- "...who benefits from it starting in China? Not China", points out "Elf of Destruction".
- "I would normally dismiss anything Ahmdinejad says as nonsense, but given the timing of the virus, I suspect the CCP of fowl play. Remember, given the protests in Hong Kong, the CCP was amassing troops across the river. If they had mobilized those troops to murder demonstrators in Hong Kong the world would have baulked on the CCP and cut all financing. No...the CCP needed something less direct; something that would create fear of public gatherings. What better way to squash an uprising than to release a dangerous virus. The fact that the CCP refused access to the point of origin to US scientist and doctors is highly suspect. Sadly, with only propaganda machines", suggests "dbroms".
-"Listen, I can understand that "Armored-Dinner-Jacket" is upset about the virus. But if he expects an organization from the New York Third World Free Buffet & Cocktail Lounge to penetrate China under Xi's nose and get answers, he's urinating in the wind", warns "availablcleo48".
- "I tend to agree with him (Ahmadinejad)--we have a right to know who it is that are trying to kill us. I keep hearing Bill Gates name.....", said "patty".
- "They ran a huge conference last Fall on PANDEMICS. Event 201 and Pirbright Institute. Gates Funded", added "Bannaghar".
- "And Gates would profit", agreed "Maude".
- "Bill and Melinda Gates hosted “Event 201” back in October, described as a “high-level pandemic exercise” (https://dcdirtylaundry.com/...)", observed, moreover, "Bannaghar".
- "I have also heard at these conferences and games they play that they trade and sell novel viruses to each other to play with in their respective labs. Someone claimed Univ of Carolina sold one to Chinese and they modified it back in China and it escaped or was intentionally let loose", added, on this point, also "TheMagnificentDeplorable".
- "and he is all about depopulation.....", observed (on Gates) "patty".
- "PIRBRIGHT INSTITUTE.", reminded "Bannaghar".
- "I heard that name but could not remember it--only remembered it started with a P--thanks", reacted "patty".
- "The WHO and CDC have vested interest in some of these labs. They are in up to their eyeballs in a coverup. It’s why they were so adamant about getting into China early on and trying to control the narrative. They need to shut down every one of these labs. Something a lot more sinister is easily available for some mad man to unleash hell on us.", warned "TheMagnificentDeplorable".
- "check out Amazing Polly new video--Event 201, very interesting", suggested, in addition, "patty".
- "Amazing that it takes, former Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to ask what every damn leader in the world should have been demanding a month ago. The release of this virus from a bio lab (which is the only place it could have been developed) is appalling. Who leaked it, where did it leak from and why the hell, if it wasn't for sinister purposes wasn't it appropriately handled must be revealed and there must be accountability and consequences", clearly agreed with Ahmadinejad, "Benedict".
- "The billionaires invested in China and the anti Trump liberals will NEVER allow this to happen", warned "Greg".
- "This is a valid demand.", agreed, however, also "The Iszling".
- "I would like to know myself. Why aren’t any legitimate leaders demanding answers?", wondered "FtheEstablishment".
- "What they did could be considered an act of war against not only us but every nation affected, we could be sitting on a powder keg if accusations start flying resulting in frayed nerves which could end up killing MORE people then the virus ever could. Its a very delicate process, we all know China is guilty as sin but our response is critical or we could be dealing with something that could very easily get out of our control.", advised, however, "American-Bird-of-Prey".
- "Because they already know. And not one of them wants the plebes to know that every government is up to their elbows in bioweapons. And agricultural weapons. The way of the future :)", denounced "Elf of Destruction".
- "Ask Hillary and John Kerry, they know!", suggested "G.I.Joe".
- "I have been saying from day one, the corona virus was man made and spread on purpose. There is nothing that will ever make me chamge my mind on that", stressed "Green Harvey".
- "I believe that too. The man made part anyway. Then there was an accidental breach in containment from employees. And off it went like wildfire", accepted, at least, "intellicad60".
- "Don’t delude yourselves Iran. If the US had made this virus, the mortality rate would be at a minimum of 80%. The US and Russia perfected Bio-Warfare", contested "Jamie".
- "Was Wuhan virus natural, or man made, ie "enhanced" ?No matter who asks the question, it should be answered. But, who will believe any info coming from the WHO, or any other "State" forensic lab ? We may learn the answer decades down the line. But expect only misinformation and disinformation, from those who have the ability to know", warned "JohnGalt".
- "Wasn't it stolen from a lab in Winnipeg, Canada by a Chinese and brought to Wuhan?", questioned "RK1975".
- "What did ("Socialist"/Liberal, Anti-Trump, PM) Trudeau know and when did he know it?", wondered, on this point, "Deplorably yours".
- "...[TEXT LOST] ...", replied "Mike".
- "Unbeknownst to this little tyrant, (Ahmadinejad), he hit the nail on the head ! Chances are the virus came out of the Chinese biological warfare lab in Wuhan. It's the only one they have", observed "Chicagobearcat".
- "Can't believe it, I agree with the Islamist (Ahmadinejad). For once in his long miserable life, he is right", agreed, with sincerity, also "elkh1".
- "no one with a brain, not brain washed, believes this is a 'natural' virus. so, after fighting this war as best they can, victim nations/people must turn to exposing the perpetrators of this most evil of crimes", agreed and urged "neil sutherland".
- "And make them be punished for all the lives lost", called "Lizintexas".
- "Pinch me. I'm agreeing with him. (Ahmadinejad)", acknowledged also "Butch".
- "Exposing it's origin is never going to happen because no doubt this is the product of a University or lab in the United States or Canada. Alot if Universities screw with viruses all the time. They have been doing it for decades. Using viruses to conduct gene editing to make designer strains. Very dangerous stuff. Took a 400 level virology course at IU taught by a ND professor. That was 2011 and it was terrifying what Universities were up to and even more terrifying that we were educating foreign nationals from hostile countries to do this crap. Playing God won't end well", denounced "B King".
- "You do realize that a 400 level course in virology at IU taught by a ND professor is an entry level course at a place like Hopkins ...", compared "John Schmidt".
- "I wasn't a science major. Needed 3 credit hours for prerequisite and thought virology was interesting. Is there a point you're trying to make? Surely you aren't disputing American Universities having viral genetics programs in which they genetically engineer viruses and use viral gene editing to modify other genetic sequences as well?", sharply clarified "B King".
- "I am disputing that they are doing so at middle tier undergraduate programs. Sure their are graduate programs and PhDs who are experimenting with Gene sequencing but at the level and place you were at you would have had no exposure to the what, how and why they are doing it", distinguished "John Schmidt".
- "You're disputing a claim that was never made because I never mentioned undergrads, exposure, or methods. Point was that every single day some lab is playing Russian Roulette with the entire human race by creating pathogens they have no understanding of and that mother nature has no answer for. And of course that Windsor and Wuhan both shared a virologist who worked with Coronavirus. After being named as a possible link in the virus getting to wuhan that guy very conveniently died himself of COVID-19. Occums Razor from there", Denounced, in concreto, "B King".
- "How do you think it is we got an understanding of Polio or space travel? Do you think we just prayed about it and God gave us an answer? Research is necessary to advance and sometimes we get it wrong. Cost of progress", was obliged to admit "John Schmidt".
- "Suprising you inject prayer into the subject as if it would somehow be counterproductive. Multiple blind studies have shown prayer works. Most of the scientific advances we have came people who believe in God and pray. Boyle, Faraday, Mendel, Newton, Volta, Pascal, Kelvin. The list is endless. It's the pseudo science of Evolution Theory that has perverted true science from repeatable and demonstrable scientific method to a world of theoretical jibberish. Genetic mapping has disproved evolution already and the entire geologic scale was invented by a lawyer named Lyell in the 1850's. No species has ever evolved into another. But I can tell by your summary you're not a prayong man. Describing the creation bioweapons that can wipe out mankind as the "cost of progress" sounds very - Progressive", criticized "B King".
- "Is it true that this virus was stolen from a Canadian college by Chinese students?", wondered "Train to Hawaii".
- "This is how 3/4 of the human population is going to be wiped out", warned and deplored "CFLAP".
- "You American hating scum. You know damn well this thing originated in A Chinese biological laboratory. Take your propaganda somewhere else or show it up your keester", angered shouted "Keeper of Odd Knowledge".
- "How low IQ do you have to be to think American laboratories aren't doing "research" on dangerous pathogens? It's a fact. It's not even something that is up for debate. You sound like a Democrat. Can't debate an issue on factual information so you call me, an Infantry Vet, American hating scum? You tell me to shove information that I learned from a University about what kind of genetic research was being conducted up my keester? I bet you are a baby boomer that still listens to the nightly news and have voted for the same politician for 20 years", replied "B King", sticking on Facts.
- "Vietnam vet here. And unlike you I love my country. 1st place you go to is to accuse America of unleashing this Chinese made virus on the world. So, again, I advise you to shove your idiocracy and stupid ideas Were you normally maintain your head".
+ "By the way I know we are experimentings with biological agents in this country as is every other country with a 1/2 assed budget for such things. In this case the virus originated in China and you have to be an idiot to think otherwise", Partly admitted, partly insisted to contest, "Keeper of Odd Knowledge".
- "I don't have to hate my country to know government employees and University professors can be incompetent dolts".
- "The entire chain is known : June 2012 Jeddah Saudi Arabia. Dr. Alli Mohammed Zaki isolates an unknown virus from a Saudi man. Dr. Zaki needs second opinion and sends sample to Ron Fouchier the leading virologist at Erasmus Medical Center in Rotterdam. Fouchier sequenced the viral sample and sent the results to Scientific Director Dr. Frank Plummer at Canada's National Microbiology Laboratory in Winnipeg. Zaki-Fouchier-Plummer at NML Canada. In March 2019 a package was sent from the Canadian NML to the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory. The package contained viral bioweapons and the following investigation on the breach revealed two Chinese espionage agents working in Canada's NML had stolen the virus and sent it to the lab in Wuhan which is only 16 miles from the Hunan Seafood Market. The 34 year old doctor there that tried to blow the whistle conveniently died at 34 from COVID-19. Covid-19 came from Canada in March 2019. What manipulations, if any, the Canadians did to the original strain sent from the Netherlands in 2012 to turn it into Covid-19 we'll likely never know. ...", denounced "B King".
- "...you have a very interesting story. Why are you the only one reporting this?", asked "Keeper of Odd Knowledge".
[NDLR : THERE IS NO REPLY FROM "B KING" TO THAT QUESTION]
- "At least Ahmadinejad is not being lectured by CNN and MSNBC to be politically correct", joked "Bob L".
- "From a Wuhan wet market lies just steps away the former Wuhan Institute of Virology. What could possibly go wrong?", observed "Deidre".
- "I think we all would like to know which lab it was too!", agreed (with Ahmadinejad) also "Vaughn H".
- "China only has one level 4 biological virus lab and it's located in Wuhan. Not too difficult to figure out which lab produced it", noted "Cowpow".
- "Look in Canada", advised "Neville" (Comp. Supra).
- "Sir the WHO couldn't find it own @** with both hands!", deplored "Duckman".
- "Ask the Chinese", advised "Thing is".
- "The same Winnipeg lab that sent Ebola and Henipah viruses to Beijing recently removed a number of researchers for an “administrative issue"", noted "Bannaghar".
- "This may be a first, I agree with an Iranian leader! (Ahmadinejad)", admitted also "CyclopsRooster".
- "I have to agree with this terrorist (Ahmadinejad): the bas-turds in the CCP should be held accountable for their incompetence", found "Jack_nSlvrSprng".
- "After the air clears and facts are layed out, I wouldn't be surprised to see some Nation's gang up on China. I have no doubts that the genetic sequence that the Chi Coms released to other countries was short a couple of components. When that's found, it's all bets off for China", suspected "Grumpy Gardner".
-"just what incompetence? seems to me that they pretty much got just what they wanted and needed to have happen", guessed "Michael G. Wilson".
-"1: I think the virus escaped from the lab accidentally. 2: I think they acted incompetently by supressing information about it", minimized responsibilities, "Jack_nSlvrSprng".
- "Considering China broke every international law in the book by creating bio-weapons, its worse this one was introduced to the public intentionally in Wuhun resulting in deaths worldwide I can well imagine China is getting an earful behind the scenes from diplomats from nations affected most, if they start getting slammed publicly we could very well start a war over this which could kill more then the actual virus in question", thought "American-Bird-of-Prey".
- "Whether intentionally released or not, the CCP bas-turds should be held accountable", believes "Jack_nSlvrSprng".
- "We already know the lab. It's the BLF-4 lab at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, located about 300 yards from that open air food market. The genome sequences taken from coronavirus patients are 90% identical to the bat CoV ZC45 coronavirus used for testing (intermediate horseshoe bat). In February that same lab applied for a patent in China for the use of remdesivir, an experimental drug owned by Gilead Sciences (American biotech company)", observed "Buster000".
- "Try the CIA lab!", proposed "Totally Disgusted".
- "Someone did it. We have a right to know who did this", Urged "ctwatcher✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ".
-"WHO has their hand in this, along with the CCP", suspected "Wilder Napalm".
- "Don't remember the source.......... Lab test animals were being stolen and sold in the market after experiments", pointed out "DeplorableVietnamVet"
- "For the first time and probably the last time in my life I completely 100% agree and support an Iranian leader" (Ahmadinejad), added also "Les Deplorables".
- "This was an act of war by China and the deep state", thought "Saucy Wiener".
- "I find it hard to believe a bioweapon can be leaked, but definitely stolen. Somebody wanted to create a pandemic. Can't say who, but Xi might be feeling threatened with all the China bashing and wanted to punish as many as possible. Nothing good comes out of communist countries", believed "LunaticLeft".
- "It will be interesting to see where the WHO point the finger!", wonders "Gano1".
- "Ahmadinejad is a good man. Iran needs their leader back", praised "DaressoPoE".
- "I've always quite liked this guy (Ahmadinejad) since he came to I think Columbia university and openly and frankly answered a lot of tough student questions. The MSM didn't like his answers, but he was a refreshing change from the drivel spouted by their protegees", praised also "Charles D Plorable".
-"I have to agree with Ahmadinejad on this one. There is no reason for any one or any Country to have BSL-4 Biotech Warfare Labs. This is the most vile inhumane research, worse than anything Mengele aspired to and just as evil...It all needs to stop", strongly stressed "AClearThought".
- "I assume they work on how to counter Bio-weapons also!", wished "Mac-101".
-"BSL-3 does that", replied "AClearThought".
- "It's most lethal to the 60+ demographic. Wuhan spawned the SARS virus in 2015. Wuhan is where the COVID-19 virus originated spreading globally. Wuhan has a high security lab that leaked SARS. I'm betting the same for the COVID-19 virus. China's most dependent population is its elderly. 1+1=2", speculated "UtahYoda", (with some errors in Dates).
-"Seems like a lot of trouble to kill almost no one. Pretty sure they have spent about 1 thousand times what they would have spent to care for the few people it killed", Disagreed "Rob Simone", (obviously exagerating a bit)...
-"The main aim of biological weapons is not specifically deaths (although that's also an objective) - but that they incapacitate the enemy by forcing them to tie up vast amounts of their assets and expend their scarcest manpower resources at a time they can least afford it. You can bag up the dead and walk away. Mass casualties are a whole different ball game. One injured soldier can take another five off the battlefield. The drawback is when the agent is released on your own population. In this instance the CCP have the relative advantage. The unproductive will simply be welded up in tower blocks as is happening right now. In the numbers game, what's the loss of a few million if it removes the competitive advantage from the capitalists?", replied rightfully "Charles D Plorable".
-"Hey Ahmadinejad, Who's on first, What's on second, I don't know's on third!", wondered "Goatroper2211".
-"Oh holy hell, twice in one day...another m-fer (Ahmadinejad), that I thought I'd never agree with, said something I completely agree with...now I know the world is coming to an end", added also "Formerly GIF".
-"The Chinese stole it from a Canadian lab ~~ Took it home near Wuhan and allowed the genie out of the bottle", insisted, however, some like "Roxanne".
- "Dems aren’t too bright. Roxanne", pointed at internal USA Politics "Avatar".
-" Harvard Chemistry Chairman Charged on Alleged Undisclosed Ties to China : Charles Lieber is accused of lying to Defense Department, National Institutes of Health about Chinese government funding" (https://www.wsj.com/article...), observed "Bannaghar".
- "Chinese scientists says COVID-19/coronavirus could have originated from government bioweapons research facility in Wuhan" (https://canadafreepress.com...)
+ "The WUHAN National Biosafety Laboratory is part of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, and is classed "Cellular Level Biosafety Level 4" — meaning it works on the most dangerous pathogens, like Ebola, according to the lab's website. (http://lssf.cas.cn/en/facil...)", observed "Bannaghar".
-"Sometimes a dose of sanity comes from the craziest places...(Ahmadinejad)", agreed also "Goneriding".
- "wuhan china lab", pointed out "Eddie" too.
- "Fort Detrick.", preferred "Susan Sprig".
- "do they use animals in that lab? could the animals have been sold at the disgusting market which was ground zero for the outbreak??", wondered "ImForgivenToo".
- "Amazingly, I agree with what he (Ahmadinejad) is saying", added also "JrTx".
- "For once, I totally agree with the Iranian (Ahmadinejad)", "Knows too Much" joined the growing Group of supporters...
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- "That's the only sane thing I have ever heard him (Ahmadinejad) say!", agreed "Ed" too.
- "I don't normally ever agree with Iranian maniacs (Ahmadinejad), but when I do it's about who created the Hunan Virus....", was added also "Laurence Jackson".
- "You go, I'madinnerjacket! (Ahmadinejad)", joined "Bannaghar" too.
-" Ahmadinejad is a man of conscience, something the world doesn’t know how to deal with. If he were Irans leader today, they would be better off!!!", "Jonathan" also supported.
- "Agreed", said "JCMR" too.
- "...If this is a man-made weapon it’s a pretty crap one", found "BobCurious".
-"No one is saying it was their doomsday virus that was accidentally released, but even performing experiments on how to infect humans with rodent viruses can be dangerous (as we see)", "Cowpow" denounced.
- "That depends on what it's purpose is. It might be intended for economic chaos, rather than human fatalities!", rightfully observed "ellerfeller".
-"That lab must hate Italian seniors", supposed "BugsBunny", because of the Virus' more often targetted (aged) victims.
- "As much as I hate to agree with this clown (Ahmadinejad),... part of me does...", "Mojo" admitted.
- "At first glance it would seen that China is the culprit.........but we have to look at who has most to gain by doing the unthinkable. China was about to finalize a great deal with the US but Iran was not! China cannot afford this CV but Iran needs something to stop the revolution. China could have worked on the technology to make the virus but was too careful not to let it go.......but Iran could have been the main culprit in seeding China so as to create havoc. How was it that some Iranian politicians got so quickly infected ? ......maybe because they had first hand look at the vial......but where too stupid to be too close ? I have no idea. I am just throwing stones at a glass pane. Iran allowed people to get out of infected areas.Iran is said to have opened the doors to prisoners. Iran has some very inadequate safety measures. China is doing its best to control while Iran seems to be only praying for Allah to punish Israel and Trump for this CV. On the other side there are the mega billionaires who have been talking about such viruses just a few months ago. So, is this a money thing, a religious thing or just madness ?"
"Whoever did this will reap the wind. Many people will die. Let us all pray that it will not be us", soberly wondered "disqus_E5omamma".
- "You wrote all that because you think a human being made this particular virus?", "Edith 1880" asked.
- "Yes, and he is right. Level 4 biological lab Wu Han China. You have to be crazy to believe it's something that came from bats. Chinese have been eating them for centuries", "Keeper of Odd Knowledge" observed.
- "This Guy (Ahmadinejad) could be on to something... Think about it! Out of the 10's of thousands of food markets that exist throughout China, it just so happens to be in the food market within blocks of the only BSL level 4 lab in China. It could be a leak, which everyone may suspect. But if it was, who leaked it, and how was it that Iran was suddenly one of the first hardest hit countries (dozens of high ranking politicians infected), ...that just so happen to be mortal enemies of the state of Israel.? fact or fiction?", wondered "wildfirexx".
- "I like this guy (Ahmadinezad)", agreed also "Sam Adams".
- "I kind-of agree with him (Ahmadinejad)....", added "SPANGLER the Deplorable" too.
-"Coronavirus, Patent No. US 10-130-701 B2, The Pirbright Institute, UK. Major funding from Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Wellcome Trust, EU. Start here. Look it up at uspto.gov. Happy hunting", wished "KauaiGoneGin", after giving some Interesting Factual leads.
- "I actually agree with this (Ahmadinejad's call)-- the sentiment anyway, not the nonsense. It should be made public who and where the virus was created. Then we should expose all Democrats, before November", urged "Matt Fischer".
- "You only have to look at the DNC lab to find out where the virus came from. The trick was to get it into the Chinese population to scapegoat the Chinese and crash Trumps economy", denounced "Don't Tase Me Bro!".
-"To scapegoat populists worldwide and have people begging for a one world government, or so they thought. They could easily steal the election from Trump", added "Elf of Destruction".
- "Well that's an easy one: It was the lab at the University of North Carolina. Then, Barack Insane Obama sold it to the Comm. Chinese in 2015 for further gain of function research and to then release it en masse", "007_Conservative" suspected.
-"The head of the Wuhan lab was working on Corona virus gain of function research at UNC. It's one theory. Shiangli Zhi is her name ai think", "Elf of Destruction" added.
-"...The public is already in panic mode. Announcing that it is man-made would increase the panic level by 100. So they will play the "an animal virus that just happened to jump to humans" card....in the city that China has their only level 4 bio lab in", "Cowpow" warned.
-"I'm not saying it is a man-made disease. It is a bat/rodent disease the originated in the wild. No denying here. However, taking this bat/rodent disease that originated in the wild and figuring out how to infect humans with it is something that happened in that level 4 lab", nuanced "Cowpow".
- "Your comment is simply ridiculous... You say it's not a man made disease, and then you proceed to proclaim that man figured out a way to infect humans with it (thus it becomes man made)... I got news for you... Virus that "don't affect humans", infect humans all the time. It's when the virus mutates to a point that it CAN affect humans that things go awry. Every country understands that biological warfare is a dumb thing. Using a virus to attack your enemies will always boomerang back onto you. We are all human, there is no way to create a virus to infect just certain people", claimed "Arminious", (despite evidence of the Contrary : F.ex. COVID-19 notoriously targets mainly Old People, with certain Conditions, etc).
-"And yet every country still continues to experiment...", warned "Cowpow".
+"Again; same city as their only level 4 bio lab. They turned down help from the CDC. They surrounded an entire city with soldiers in hazmat suits that were pointing automatic weapons at citizens who were trying to escape. Their own reporters with inside tips were reporting that it originated in that lab (before they vanished that was). If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...", he reiterated.
-"...Countries study virus so that they can be prepared for every eventuality. They don't manipulate the coding of those virus to use against people. As I said, that's a fools game. The virus you're "concocting" is inside your borders, and if accidentally let loose it will cause mayhem among your population. No country tries to do biological warfare anymore. The dangers outweigh the benefits", "Arminius" believes.
- ".... I guess the stories published in credible papers about researchers in China in prison for selling the animals they experiment on to raw meat market street vendors are also just "troof"", persisted to denounce, "Cowpow".
+"...out of the 3.7 million square miles in China, what are the odds of this disease magically jumping from animals to humans in the very same city where China has their only level 4 bio lab where viruses like this are experimented on, with the two events being unrelated? I will save you the math; 13.7 trillion to one. (so you're telling me there's a chance?) I guess statistics lie too now...", "Cowpow" added.
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-"...it all ties back to here: http://www.waarheid911.nl/b... There's no fear of a False Flag attack now. CoVid IS the False Flag, only it's a real attack. Think of all the 'clearing out' going on behind the scenes. ...Let's follow the breadcrumbs, and avoid the fake CIA marshmallow 'wet market' diversions, as George Webb would say:"
+ "1. 2019-nCoV is a patented US Bioweapon of the SARS - MERS respiratory virus family, with an HIV wrapper. Backing out an isolation and identification of the first victim announced 8 DEC 19, and the 2 to 3 week incubation of what presented as a pneumonia cluster, Patient Zero was the second half of October, 2019. ... 2. Trump, Pompeo and State were in China the second half of October, brokering the New China Trade Deal. Trump announced 'We have a Great New Plan', but then China said, 'Uhh, no we don't!' This infuriated and embarrassed Trump and the US State trade mission. ...3. Also in the second half of October, the 2019 Military World Games was held in Huwei Province, in WUHAN. All of the Pentagon, State and CIA 'wet' operatives were right there IN WUHAN when the China Trade Deal collapsed. Pentagon has 26 bioweapons labs, ready to start 'seeding'. ... 4. Now, you'll recall, in the first half of October, the Fed began frantically covering a sudden global 'liquidity crisis', as credit dried up and the markets froze. This was just after Trump refused to attack Iran for a second time, and then fired Bolton to signal the end to these Perpetual Wars of Greater Levant. That was the trigger for the so-called 'DNC' Soft Coup impeachment effort by the Pentagon-CIA. ...5. That same week as the 2019 Military World Games was seeding Patient Zero with the Super-SARS, just after Perpetual Wars of Levant went off the rails, then the China (Extortion) Trade Deal failed ... that SAME WEEK, a US Big Pharma PAC introduced HR4710 into Congress as a Homeland Security Drug Monopoly Plan, to BAN ALL IMPORTED DRUGS AND VACCINES and also CREATE A PENTAGON IMPORTED DRUG AND VACCINE INTERDICTION TASKFORCE".
++"Coincidence? The L4 Wuhan lab was French-built, it was brand new and staffed by Chinese researchers who were all educated and trained in the West. They were working with Stanford and Harvard on developing US bioweapon SARS and MERS vaccines. The lab was researching known bat immunity to SARS as a potential vaccine adjuvant. Their Harvard co-researcher was arrested by Feds and never heard from again. Neither Stanford nor Harvard has issued any statement. .... So, let's do a Dave Letterman count-down. First the Perpetual War of Greater Levant collapses and Bolton is fired. The the Soft Coup, as global credit instantly dries up. There is a huge global banking crisis! Trump announces a new China (Extortion) Trade Deal! But it immediately blows up during the 2019 Military World Games right there *in Wuhan*. Then a bill to create a US Big Pharma MONOPOLY under Permanent Pentagon Posse Comitatus is introduced to Congress at the same time...and then five weeks of incubation and isolation later, the first case of what's now been branded 'CoVid' by the West is announced by China on December 8th (December 7th in USA, ... Pearl Harbor Day). "We need some catastrophic and catalysing event - like a new Pearl Harbor” Project for a New American Century Smoking Gun? Or just a Wild Coincidence? Must be coincidence. Why, Mike 'End of Days' Pompeo wouldn't even hurt a FLY!"
+++ "- In fact, if you research, you can find a 2010 video where a respected journalist with an inside-leaker from CIA-MI6 stating The Plan was to: 1. start blitz-kreig with Iran by provoking it using illegal insertions, then 2. a Bioweapons attack on China, and use the resulting global pandemic chaos for Patriot Act IV America LockDown.... And that is exactly what played out, and is playing out and will likely play out. The Private Fed just bailed out the international banking cartels last Fall by looting our US Treasury. They now hold all the gold. You hold all the Toilet paper. Do the math. ....Protect your Home, protect your Family, protect your Wealth. Be Kind to Others!", concluded "Antworter".
-"The stock market was ready for a correction, right after the Wall Streeters ran it up to 30,000. They almost go there when the virus news got bad, so they sold a bit early and predictably took their profits. Those who know the game were short the market and are covering this week now that the Dow has hit its 200-week moving average. Watch: Things will now settle down, maybe after another dip, as Wall Streeters begin to buy up all the lost profits of the fools who had turned their money over to 401(k) managers. They do this all the time. The craps table was hot till someone rolled a seven", added "My O. My".
-"My biggest problem with your theory is that you think the CIA operates under anyone, including Trump. I also think China is nowhere near innocent which you seem to portray them as. The trade deal was necessary, not extortion. I've been there, the people are terrified of their government. I'm hoping it was a CIA operation to cripple the CCP and Iran", replied "Elf of Destruction".
-"It was made with PShuttle. A college kid could have made it. Came from Canada, modified variant found in Wuhan. The end. Nothing more to ever know for sure", claimed "John Hall".
-"Wow! I agree with the Dude (Ahmadinejad) !!!.", was impressed "Croodness".
- "I have only two words for Iran's ex-president Amahdinejad: "Fair enough.", agreed also "Howard Lewis".
- "DANG! I never, ever, thought I'd agree with anything Ahmadinejad said, but he is 100% on target with that. ...Of course, once the WHO determine the virus was manufactured in China, as a militarized weapon, what will they do about it?", wondered "Jack Carter".
-"The Crazy sun of a gun (Ahmadinejad) might have a point", agreed "1955-mullet" too.
-"I'm-all-in-jihad (Ahmadinejad) has a valid point for once", joined also "Munch".
- "One has to wonder . Why would anyone develop such a devastating virus ??? Then the MSM's / The WHO etc... talk only Pandemic and DO NOT say a damn thing about the very people who developed it ! ...", wondered "Gabriel Power".
- "From what I've read about the genome it has 2 places that are the same as HIV, and uses the same pathway to spread and infect. I would say it's a genetically combined virus that was made in a lab, but who's the question. Soros and the .0001 of the elite that want total control of the world would be behind it I'm sure. They're sick bastages that will do anything to take over", denounced "banned usafirst".
-"What kind of Frankenstein lab would be working on a virus that targets the elderly? Those people have got to have their head screwed on backwards. hmm ... perhaps the elderly were just the 'test pilots' .. analysis from this might show how to do other 'selective' projects? My word ... the entire land of China will be sand dunes. They'll lose that battle and I had such high hopes for them in that....", deplored "Waterwllows".
-"The lab is at the University of North Carolina (Comp. Supra), and they made it for the Chinese", found "Jimmy Troutbum".
- "Strange, but I agree with him (Ahmadinejad) on this. The CCP must be held to account. Even if they didn't develop it in a lab, they lied about it and hid it for as long as possible. Par for the course for commies. What's a few million deaths of their own people,let alone the rest of the world in the name of maintaining their own power and wealth?", claimed "Speakthetruth".
-"...Anyways, the patent is owned by Gates, I think. Sue him!", reminded "freedom1776".
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Greek European affairs Minister incoming CoE Chair Varvitsiotes to EF: Program+Turkey ="EU Shield"?

*Strasbourg/Angelo Marcopolo/- With an eye towards the Future Development of Human Rights, particularly of Young People (See Infra), but also Firmly anchored in Nowadays GeoPolitical Challenges, and particularly the Urgent Need to Protect EU's External Borders, facing even more Turkey's Smuggling of Mass Asylum Seekers/Irregular migrants, now at Evros river, (See: ..., etc), Experienced Greek Minister for European affairs, former Long-Time Top MEP, Miltiades Varvitsiotes, and incoming CoE's Chairman-in-office, spoke to "Eurofora" in Strasbourg, just after meeting with new CoE's Secretary General Marija Buric, former vice-Prime Minister of Croatia, and ECHR's President Alexandros Sicilianos, on the Draft Program of the forthcoming Greek Presidency of the PanEuropean CoE from May to November 2020, (See Infra).
+ Meanwhile, EU Parliament's plenary, (meeting exceptionaly in Brussels, reportedly because of "Coronavirus"' spread in France, after neighbouring Italy), is due to discuss, later this week, Ankara's unprecedented Provocations around Evros' Borders and those (Gas, Stones, Fires, Knives' abusing) Mass Asylum Seekers/Irregular Migrants (mainly from Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc., often more than 13.000 per Day, according to the IOM+) that Turkish Authorities have reportedly Backed (including by Buses' Transports from Istanbul, 1.000 Turkish Security Agents send on the spot, relevant Statements, etc). Turkish President Erdogan already is in Brussels for meetings, since this Monday, just After launching a provocative Call for "Greeks" to "Open the Borders" (sic !) and "let them go towards Other (EU) Countries" !... On the Contrary, the Greek Government has notoriously decided to stick to its Sovereign Right and Duty to Protect its National and EU's External Borders.
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>>> - "Turkey Exploits innocent people, for its Political aims, and in order to Blackmail the EU !", criticized Varvitsiotes Today at Strasbourg, in reply to a relevant "Eurofora"s Question, speaking of a "Stern Denonciation against the Turkish stance" on Evros.
=> Therefore, "CoE" should be very "Careful" on the way that "Human Rights"' approaches might be grossly abused (manipulated) in such cases, and avoid to "fall into a (sly) Trap", he Warned.
>>> "In Front of that, a European Shield has been raised, at EU level", Miltiades Varvitsiotes pointed out.
- Indeed, "the Declarations of all European Institutions' Presidents (EU Commission, Parliament and Council) are Crystal-Clear, last week in Athens". "Justice and Home affairs (JHA) Ministers' declaration, as well as that of Foreign Ministers, is also very clear, as they were formulated". "And it's, moreover, pretty clear, Today's statement by EU's High Representative on Foreign and Security policy, Borel, in view of his meeting with the Turkish President (Erdogan)" in Brussels. So that, "all the Framework of this Resistance and (European) Shield is crystal-clear", he resumed.
- However, "even if, here or there, might, eventually, be some who don't see well enough all those political facts, we try to Enlighten them, and God help us...", he realistically concluded, with a visible fighting spirit for any relevant Ideological battle whenever necessary...
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+ But, at the same time, Authentic Human Rights issues are at the Forefront of the incoming Greek rotating Presidency of the CoE (May-November 2020), which coincides with the 70th Anniversary since the Signing of its PanEuropean Convention of Human Rights (1950 - 2020), inter alia, also by discussing its "Implementation" until now, as well as in the foreseable Future, according to a Key "Non-Paper", presented Today in Strasbourg to CoE's main Officials, and communicated also to "Eurofora" by the competent Minister Varvitsiotes. In Addition, the Greek Government has already proposed ECHR for the Peace Nobel Prize this year.
- Starting almost at the same Time as EU's exceptional "Conference on Europe's Future" (2020-2021), CoE's Greek Presidency of 5-11/2020 is due to be "Focused mainly on Young People", i.e. Forward looking, turned "towards the Future", Varvitsiotes observed.
- "We should Cooperate impeccably" with CoE's Secretary General Marija Buric, inter alia, also because "I think that the Greek Presidency's main Priority on Young Generations Fits quite well with those of the CoE itself currently", since the PanEuropean Organisaton "has just (12/2019) outlined a Strategy for the period of 2020-2030" on Youth policy, "so that the fact that a rotating (Committee of Ministers') Presidency intends to Invest into that, is Important", he pointed out.
=> - For the time being, "We (the Greek CoE's Chairmanship 5-11/2020) have traced 4 Axes in that : (1) First, Young People's involvement into DEMOCRATIC Institutions, their Protection from "Fake News", how to Augment their participation, issues about Artificial Intelligence, etc., and how that forms a Framework of Rights". (2) The Second concerns Problems of VULNERABLE persons : Poverty, Human Trafficking, Sexual Exploitation, UnAccompagnied Minors, etc. (3) The Third part has to do with CULTURAL HERITAGE and its Protection and Maintenance despite Climate Change, as a Right for Young People to Enjoy that in Future" ; (4) And the Fourth Axis is related to the (CoE's) Charter of SOCIAL RIGHTS, vis a vis Young People".
+ In Parallel, "we also take a View on the Incorporation of ECHR's case-law into Member States", he added, (Comp. Supra), while praising ECHR's President Sicilianos as an "Excellent Jurist", "who contributed a lot" in that Program.
Significant of the Importance that the Greek Presidency attributes to Democratic Participation issues, is also the fact that Varvitsiotes met, Today, with CoE's Director General on Democracy Snezana Markovic, from Serbia, (while the above-mentioned "Non-Paper" adds a Reference also to "Digital" Technologies here, similar to "Eurofora"'s Project).
=> - "I think that all this forms a well-Structured Program, whose Issues, naturally, cannot be solved during a rotating chairmanship, neither exhausted, but they can he Highlighted, and joined to various relevant Initiatives", he concluded.
+ "Inter-Generational Solidarity : Important !"
- "And, what about Aged People ?", "Eurofora" questioned Varvitsiotes, pointing, f.ex., at a previous EU Campaign in favour of "Inter-Generational Solidarity", (as it was nick-named), which had strived to Bring Together Young and Aged People, Near to eachother".
- In Reply, the Greek Minister slamed the Opposite, counter-example, of a Controversial Satirical Author who had portrayed Aged People as "Vampires", exploiting the Young through the Social Security/Pensions' system, and inciting the Youth to become a kind of "Canibals" against the Aged persons (sic !)...
=> "No", he reacted : On the Contrary, "Inter-Generational Solidarity is an Important matter. Both Politically, and Socially, as well as Substantialy", Varvitsiotes positively stressed to "Eurofora", (i.e. apparently accepting to Include it, in one way or another, inside the wider context of that Greek CoE's Presidency Draft Program).
+ Bio-Ethics : - "Keep an eye" ?
- About "Childrens' Human Rights", Questioned by "Eurofora" about the current Popular Demonstrations and Protests, in France and elsewhere in the World, on the Controversy concerning the Child's elementary "Right to have a Mother and a Father", (reportedly emanating f.ex. from some UN-related official texts, etc), Opposite to some currently Controversial and UnPopular Attempts for certain Lobbies (f.ex. in France, etc) to exert Pressure on Politicians to accept Dangerous Artificial Births asked by Lesbians, inevitably Exposed to manifold Dangers of Genetic Manipulations, etc., Varvitsiotes carefully but positively Replied that, in principle, "we don't enter into such Issues", "But we Open spaces for Debate, where they could be Discussed, together with others"...
+ Concerning "Bio-Ethics" in General, despite the currently "Hot" and Topical dimension of several among those Issues, (f.ex. on Heritable Genetic Editing, transmissible also to Future Generations, See: ..., etc), nevertheless, as things stand now (i.e. with that Draft "Non-Paper" on the incoming Greek CoE's Presidency's main "Priorities", drafted mainly by Ambassador Beglites in Strasbourg, as he told "Eurofora", in cooperation wtth several CoE's Officials, etc), "it appears Difficult" to include them inside that Draft Plan, Varvitsiotes acknowledged. However, given the Importance of the Issues, as well as his genuine personal Interest, that he had already shown while serving as Top MEP in CoE's Parliamentary Assembly during a Long Time), - "We shall Keep an Eye", whenever something really Important might emerge, during the (Greek CoE's Committee of Ministers) Presidency, he promised...
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Prof. Cutajar candidate Strasb. Mayor to EF: Dialogue Citizens-MEPs before Decisions=EU Policy Base

*Strasbourg/Angelo Marcopolo/- A Key Candidate in the forthcoming Municipal Elections for the New Mayor of Strasbourg, Professor Chantal Cutajar, replying to an Eurofora's question, declared her Wish to place Citizens - Politicians interaction, including Dialogue Before Final Decisions, (as "Eurofora"s Project also for EU Parliament, etc) "at the Foundations of the future European Policy" of the City which regularly hosts MEP's full Plenary Sessions, the PanEuropean CoE, (with its Parliamentary Assembly, INGOS, Standard-Building Conferences, etc), as well as ECHR, EU Ombudsperson, Schengen secretariat, etc., which all directly concern Citizens.
Cutajar is a fully-fledged University Professor in Strasbourg, who has got EU Backing for a Pioneer Program of European Cooperation in the Fight against Corruption and Financial Crime (as scourge undermining Democracy, according also to CoE's "GRECO" Anti-Corruption Watchdog), throughout the Continent, (See, among others, also : http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/eucommissionerredingoneuprosecutorandtraining.html + http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/cyberattaksandeurules.html + http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/eusciencefundsimpact.html + http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/professorcutajaronparadisepapers.html, etc), but, as former Deputy Mayor, she has also Developed (2017-2019) a brand New Policy in Strasbourg City on Citizens' Participation in Public Decision-Making processes, in a way Succeeding to attract a rare Quasi-Unanimity of All Political Parties, (to which "Eurofora" was partly Involved, since a Conference at the CoE, until its Final Official Adoption, and well Beyond : See, f.ex., inter alia, also http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/euroforaideasendorsedbystrasbourggreatdebate.html, etc), and extended that even to a 2 Days-Long and Popular Citizens' Conference contributing by a Report on the "Big Debate" launched in France by President Emmanuel Macron on 2018-2019, (who is also a Notorious Supporter of the forthcoming EU Conference on Europe's Future on 2020-2021, due to be ear-Marked by an Unprecedented "EU Citizens" dimension).
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She was speaking at a Meeting of the "Cathedral's Circle" (in the run-up to March 2020 Municipal Elections), chaired by its President Henri Mathian, who Concluded that event by Characteristically estimating that "finally, it seems well that, in order to have a Socio-Political Peace, we should, indeed, use that <<Building Together>> dimension in Public Decision-Making... He referred to what Cutajar had just called "Co-Construction" (in the original in French), and had Added to the "Fraternity/Solidarity", as well as "Probity/Ethics", in a Series of Basic Principles for her Policy. She explained that she was Not particularly in favour of "Direct Democracy", but rather for a ReVitalisation of the so-called "Representative Democracy", which, as various converging events notoriously showed recently, both in Local, National and European level, should and could Work Better.
Mathian said that just After Cutajar, as part of her reaction to a relevant "Eurofora"s Question (Comp. Supra and Infra), had Praised its substance (Public Dialogue between Citizens and Politicians Before Final Decisions affecting their Lives and/or Society) as an "Intelligent Project", which also "can Present forthcoming European Decisions in a Clear and Attractive way" for the People, particularly at the eve of EU Parliament's Plenary Sessions, (while also noting our Involvement in Strasbourg City's "Citizens Participation" Policy building : Comp. Supra).
"Eurofora"s Question consisted, precisely, into Reminding our Project, (on the Occasion also of the forthcoming EU's "Conference on Europe's Future" - Comp. Supra - which might give a real Chance to Activate "Lisbon Treaty"s provisions for "Regular Dialogue" between "Civil Society" and "EU Institutions" on all "their Acts"), observing that it goes in a Similar Direction with Professor Cutajar's "Building Together" policy (Comp. Supra), and that all this could Stimulte Citizens' and Medias' Interest for Topical European Issues, as well as MEPs' and Other EU/CoE Politicians' Desire to interact with the People in Public before taking Final Decisions, asking her if she really intended to help put it into practice if she was Elected, either as Mayor or at another Top Post of relevant responsibility.
=> It's precisely in Reply to such an "Eurofora"s Query that Professor Cutajar Advanced even Further by clearly Announcing her Intention to place, all that, "at the Foundations of our (Strasbourg City's) European Policy" in the future ! (Comp. Supra).
Cutajar is an Italo-Maltese a.o. Mediterranean origin Personality who has endorsed EU's mainly Franco-German Core, to the point to Support, Nowadays, a Strong "European entity" of Strasbourg's Traditional dimension as Capital also of the "Alsace" former Region, as well as the Development of a relevant "Bi-Linguism" here, (i.e. something which makes her more popular). Even if, currently, the scarce Latest Polls don't seem to accerredit her with enough intentions of vote in order to ensure to become Strasbourg's New Mayor, nevertheless, she has already attracted several Interesting Personalities among her Supporters, and, very probably, as a Centrist, is due to play a Key Role as possible "King Maker" in a Winning Alliance at the 2nd Round of the forthcoming Elections of this March 2020 :
In the Past, she served as a Centrist Deputy Mayor with the Socialists, (particularly with the Out-going Long-Time Mayor Roland Ries, who splited out of the Socialist Party, and does Not Participate in these Elections), who are Now represented by former Long-Time Mayor, MEP and Minister Catherine Trautmann. But, Recently, some Medias cited her in a Possible Alliance with Frontrunner Alain Fontanel (briefly Socialist, in the Past, but Nowadays engaged in President Macron's New Political Party of Liberals : "en Marche", i.e. "Walkers"), perhaps Together with Jean-Philippe Vetter (from the mainstream Center-Right Party of the "Republicans"), etc.
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Post-BREXIT EU challenged by its External Borders Mass Irr. Migrants row at Greece/Turkey

*Strasbourg/Angelo Marcopolo/(Partly UPDATED)/- Reacting to the Unexpected Popularity of the BREXIT Referendum in the UK on 2016, EU Leaders had vowed to "Protect Europe's External Borders", obtaining "Full Control" on them, since an Historic Declaration made at an Exceptional Summit, (for the 1st time in format of 27 EU, i.e. without the UK), in Bratislava's Castle, on September 2016, (See "Eurofora"s NewsReports from the spot in Bratislava, at: http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/bratislavasummitoutcome.html, etc). This was in substance confirmed also on the landmark Anniversary of the Rome Treaties in Italy on March 2017, at another exceptional EU Heads of State/Governments Summit, including EU Citizens' aspirations for Safety etc., on due Changes for Europe's foreseable Future, (Comp., inter alia, also, f.ex.: http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/euromesummitonfuture.html, etc).
They promised to never repeat again that 2015 Blunder, when Europe was found entirely UnPrepared to face a Huge "Tsunami" of many Thousands of Mass Asylum Seekers/Irregular Migrants from Turkey suddenly tresspassing EU's External Borders in Greece, and arriving up to Germany and even Scandinavian Countries, totaling up to some 1,5 Millions of People of various Asiatic or African origins, mostly UnWilling to Integrate European Culture Islamists, including numerous Aggressors even of Children and Women, Mob Mollestors and/or Rapists, Murderers, Deadly Islamist Terrorists, etc. That 2015 was proclaimed by German Chancelor Merkel to be an exceptional ..."Annus Horribilis !" During the Following Year, 2016, (even if Hungary's Victor Orban and Others Blocked the Western Balkans' Route, Before a controversial EU - Tukey Deal starts to enter into force), the situation became even Worse inside Europe, hit by Maniforld, Various Brutal Aggressions, including an Awful lot of Deadly Islamist Terrorist Attacks cowardly Targetting Civilian People.
=> But, 5 Years Later, now on 2020, have, some, Forgotten Everything ?
Indeed, it would be an Incomprehensible Ommision, Blunder, or stupid Sell Out, rather a Suicidary Hara-Kiri for Europe if it practically Abandoned Greece to cope alone against such a New Turkish "Tsunami", with Mobs made of Dozens of Thousands every Day (and Night - the IOM once counted 13.000) attempting to irregularly Tresspass inside the EU at the terrestrial Turko-Greek Borders around Evros river, in Addition to more than 1.000 per Day coming at the Greek Islands in the Aegean Sea, since February 2020, for the First Time with a so Open, Explicit, Brutal and Vulgar Blackmail Threat from Turkey, asking More Money and/or Political Concessions inside Syria !
There is not yet anyone from Idlib region, but mainly from ...Pakistan, Afghanistan or Somalia, (notorious "clients" of Turkey), and the move reportedly includes threats or attacks by Gas (against the Police), Stones, Fires, even Knives, and Turkish Army Vehicles trying to Break the Fence overnight, etc.
Meanwhile, Reports multiplied about alleged Free Trips from Istanbul with Tukish Buses, and even cases of Forced evacuations of immigrants by the Turkish Police towards the Greek/EU Borders, denounced by several Foreign Medias.
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Where is action by EU's "FRONTEX", which has repeatedly got more and more Means, in recent years, including 2019 ? Where are those European "Coast-Guards", that EU Parliament has enthousiastically and pompously Voted, already since 2016 ? Where is "EuroCorps" in real protective action, often backed by EU Parliament, and the European Security/Defense policy "Autonomy" ?
Certainly, many important EU Actors and Other important Countries in the World (including, f.ex. USA, etc), already Expressed verbaly their Support to Greece's efforts to Protect the External Borders of Europe vis a vis Turkey in this case. And all EU's Top Officials (including the Presidents of EU Council, Commission and Parliament, Michel, von der Leyen, and Sassoli, respectively) have just Visited, personaly, Evros River Borders on the spot, together with Greek Prime Minister Mitsotakis.
But what counts are Timely concrete Acts, particularly in such a Big Urgency. It's true that several EU Countries promised to send Policemen or Soldiers, (including Cyprus and the "Visegrad" Countries) and/or Money (including Austria, etc), EU Commission offered 700 millions € Funding, FRONTEX to add 100 more Coast-Guards to the already existing 530, as well as 7 Ships, 2 Helicopters, an Airplane, 2 Thermic Cameras-equiped Vehicles, etc, while Greece also reportedly asked officially to activate EU's Civic Protection mechanism for everyday management and needs of mass asylum seekers/irregular immigrants, (etc).
However, Turkish President Tayip Erdogan explicitly asked Greece, on the Contrary, to "Open its Borders" (sic !), and apparently Re)Orientated the Smugglers of the Aegean Sea Islands towards Evros' Terrestrial Borders (See Infra); while Turkish Interior Minister Suleiman Soilou Warned that Evros river Borders are "200 km Long", recently the Water's levels have Lowered down to 40-45 cm, allowing to Walk through the river at several areas, threatening that what happened until now is Nothing, Compared to what Will Come Soon...
Nevertheless, some inside the EU seem to Forget that the Last Time, anOther Greek Government, of the Left, on 2015-2016 practically Abandoned the Protection of Greece and EU's External Borders, and let more than 1,5 Millions masss asylum-seekers/irregular migrants, Trafficked through Turkey, then, they Crossed through the Entire EU, arriving until Scandinavian Countries, up to Finland, (amidst Socio-Political Troubles, even Scandal of Rapes inside Mosques and Deadly Islamist Terrorism at the Streets of Stockholm and Helsinki, etc)... And, this time, on 2020, Turkey notoriously Threatens to Send next mainly ...Idlib's Extremist Islamist Armed Gangs' pals !
In Fact, Greece's Borders, as Europe's External Borders at the South-East, Traditionaly, since Ancient Times, use to Protect Europe from Asian and/or African Mass Influx via the nearby Middle-East CrossRoads, to the point that one of the basic Historic Ingredients of European Identity, the Ancient Greek Civilisation, was founded just After Greeks then succeeded to fight and win against the Big Persian Empire's attempts to Invade the whole European Continent. So that, Even in the Popular 2007 Film "300", Sparta's heroe Leonidas, at the famous Thermopylae Battle, is asked by Persian King Xerxis to trade "Greece" with ..."the Heart of Europa", as he says, pointing at what is Really at Stake... (See, f.ex. : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Bc1RL3e_4E + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvILGIIVsMU, http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/protestercrashedbyturkisharmycar.html, etc).
As for Turkish Regime's Hypocritical Attempts to grossly Exploit and Instrumentalize some Mass Asylum Seekers/Irregular Migrants in order to Blackmail the EU for more Money, and Other various Concessions, including at its 3 Military Invasions of Syria (in Afrin on 2018, and the rest of its Kurdish Region on 2019, followed now by Idlib on 2020), etc., they are too Caricatural and Unable to Hide Ankara's real Intentions :
- F.ex., among others, Erdogan's latest Attempt, on the International Day for Women (sic !), to "Condemn" Greece for allegedly "chassing away Women seeking Asylum" at the Evros Borders of the EU, as he claimed, cannot but BackFire, as a "Boomerang" against Turkey, which (concerning Women's Rights and Dignity) has Not even Searched, Nor Found, Neither Punished the Murderers of Hevrin Khalef, the Young Woman Leader of "Future Syria" Party, who worked for Unity between Christians, Arabs and Kurds, but was Brutally Kidnaped, Tortured, Raped, and Killed at the Turko-Syrian Borders, provocatively her DeadBody exposed thrown down at a Street and trampled underfoot by her Murderers, some Extremists Islamist Armed Gangs, notoriously used by Turkey as "Mercenaries" or "Proxies" also at the 2019 Military Invasion of Syria's Kurdish Region, (See : http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/turkeyinsyriasanctionsanddamasarmy.html + http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/euparliamentonsyriankurdishregion.html, etc). Not to speak about those 3 dissident Kurdish Women (one from Strasbourg, known at the CoE) killed by Gunshots in Paris since January 2013, with the Turkish Secret Services being strongly Suspected...
+ Last, but not least, the latest relevant Decision by Turkish President Erdogan, claims to Start Hindering the (too Frequent until now) tresspassings of Greece and EU's External Borders at the Aegean Sea's Islands by Mass Asylum Seekers/Irregular Migrants through Turkey - Provoking Fears that Ankara will Transfer all that Human Trafficking (Exploited mainly by Turkish Smugglers) Nowadays towards its Terrestrial Borders to Greece and all the EU at Evros River...
>>> But, by doing so, the Turkish Regime also Acknowledged officially, (even Explicitly), that, until now, during all these Years, (i.e. including the notorious 2015-2016 "Tsunami" of more than 1,5 Millions of People), it had been Systematicaly Practising a "Non-Intervention" Policy (as it said) for all Irregular Immigrants Tresspassing into Greece and EU's External Borders through Turkey ! In other words, Turkey had been (as many Foreign Journalists had Suspected from the Start, back on 2015) Knowingly Allowing a Massive "Human Trafficking" illegal Business (run mainly by Turkish Smugglers), that Ankara notoriously tried even to Exploit, Politically and Financially, by Blackmailing the EU, which can be interpreted as being Accomplice in committing ... a CRIME, according to Council of Europe's relevant, legally Biding, Convention !
=> Post-BREXIT Europe has really a Chance to resolutely Advance Forward, and Affirm its Vitality and Strength, or, on the Contrary, Retreat and Fade Away, in the present, thorny row of Mass Asylum Seekers/Irregular Migrants pushed through Turkey at Greece's and EU's External Borders at Evros river. I.e., as also Austrian Prime Minister Kurz recently Warned on that matter, either EU will Protect its External Borders, or Disappear in History...
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