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EPP Secretary General +Top MEP Isturiz to EF on Victor Orban: Unity on 2019 + Discussion on 2020 ?!

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Четверг, 14 Март 2019

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*Strasbourg/EU Parliament/Angelo Marcopolo/- The experienced Secretary General of the Biggest European Political Party, that of ChrisianDemocrats/EPP, (Headed by Joseph Daul from Strasbourg, former EPP MEPs' Chairman), Top MEP Antonio Lopez-Isturiz White from Spain, speaking to "Eurofora" Today during EU Parliament's plenary session in Strasbourg, on the "Hot" and Topical controversy on Victor Orban, popular Prime Minister of Hungary's ideas and practice at EU's Political Landscape, including Tensions by a recent Misunderstanding vis a vis Some Other EPP Members, mainly around the Crucial Issue of Mass Migration from 3rd Non-European Countries, strongly expessed his Belief that, Despite some confusing appearances, in fact, the Unity of that Party will be maintained on 2019, but this will be Followed by a Discussion on 2020 :

- "Yes ! Yes !", Positively stressed EPP's Secretary General in Reply to "Eurofora"s relevant Question whether the EPP will Succeed to "Maintain its Unity" after a Forthcoming Meeting of its Political Committee, on March 20 in Brussels, where a Minority has asked for an Exclusion of Hungary's Governing "Fidesz" Party, while Victor Orban, at the same time, reportedly also examines a possibility to eventually form, (if obliged), together with several other EPP and/or not EPP Top Politicians, a New Political Grouping, on the occasion of the forthcoming EU Parliament's Elections of May 2019.

- "But we (EPP) must have a Serious Discussion Next Year", i.e. on 2020, Isturez went on immediately to Add, in his Reply to the above-mentioned "Eurofora"s Question. He didn't yet advance so far as to clarify whether such a move would, eventually, be limited only to the "Fidesz" issue, per se, or Extend Also into a Wider Debate on EPP's Strategic Orientation in the foreseable Future, (as it seems Logical, and supported by Orban and others).

At the Focus of the Disagreement appears mainly the Mass Asylum Seekers/Irregular Migrants' controversy, with Victor Orban denouncing alleged attempts by some inside EU Commission and/or Parliament to curently Hide Draft Texts aiming to Ease Mass Migration (by "Visas", etc), Loss of Borders' Control by National Governments, and Oblige recalcitrant EU Member Countries to accept "Quotas" of Non-European Mass Migrants or face Sanctions in the Future, which risk to Surface only After the 2019 EU Election. EU Commission's Spokesman in Brussels, Margarites Schinas, has reportedly Rejected such Criticism as "Fake News", but the competent EU Commissioner Avramopoulos has not yet been cited in this regard. Orban sticks also to the "Christian" Historic Culture of Europe, and this might, indeed, indispose, eventually, some Islamistic and/or some LBGTI Lobbies, etc., but they have not yet very loudly revealed their probable opposition.

Some eventual Misunderstandings, often pushed by exagerated or inaccurate Press Reports, (as f.ex. that which recently attempted to provoke a Personal Conflict between EU Commission's President Juncker and UK's Prime Minister Theresa May, back on December 2018, but was rapidly Dissipated by Juncker when he explained to May what was the Truth, as he revealed during the Final Press Conference of Brussels' EU Summit then), made also the Hungarian Government to think that Juncker would have Backed such a Motion for Exit from the EPP, to the point to incite Budapest to Start a Campaighn of Posters showing Juncker as if he was Manipulated by Controversial Millionaire Soros, and this inevitably Fuelled Contradictions, Despite the  otherwise "Friendly" character of Juncker as Orban described him at an Interview with "Die Welt" Newspaper. However, following relevant Demands by EPP's Leading Candidate to EU Elections, Manfred Weber, Victor Orban announced that those Posters would Stop from March 15, due to be replaced by New ones, picturing, instead, the "Socialist" Candidate, EU Commission's vice-President Timermans, and Excused himself for any eventual harm that such Criticism might, perhaps, have inflicted to any members of the ChristianDemocrat/EPP Family.

Meanwhile, Victor Orban's "Fidesz" Party has repeatedly Won 3 Elections in a row, once with More than 40% and Twice with More than 50% of the Votes, becoming the Most Popular ChristianDemorat/EPP Party accross the 38 EU Member Countries. Inside the EPP, 10 Small/Medium Parties out of a Total of 80, (among which is Not included Not even One Head of State/Government), have reportedly asked to Oust Hungary. They represent 58 Votes in EPP's Political Committee, which is competent to decide, and has 262 Voting Members. On the Contrary, the French and Italian ChristianDemocrat/EPP Parties (of Alain Wauquiez and Silvio Berlusconi), reportedly Oppose such a Motion, as well as the Austrian, "Visegrad" Countries' (including Poland) EPP Parties, while it's not backed, no more, by the German CDU/CSU, and the Spanish apparently have not yet pronounced themselves explicitly.

Since the recent 2015/2016+ Mass Asylum Seekers/Irregular Migrants UnPrecedented Huge "Tsunami" mainly through Turkey, Followed also by an equally UnPrecedented Multiplication of Deadly Islamist Terrorist Attacks cowardly Targetting innocent Civilian People throughout Europe, even until Nowadays (including, f.ex., the December 2018 Massacre in Strasbourg, the March 2019 Killings in Utrecht, etc), Added also to Various other kinds of Aggressions, Rapes, Harassment, etc, have Notoriously brought that Specific Mass Migration Problem at the forefront of EU Citizens' fears and concerns this time.

But Victor Orban's Hungarian Constitutional reform (as well as in Several Other EU Countries a.o. recently) in favour also of Europe's Christian roots, Natural Family, Human Embryos, etc, Add another, "BioEthical" Factor, in the equation, particularly Needed Recently, as a trend towards Artificial Births under any Pretexts, easily Controlled by Technocrats etc, at the Same Time that Heritable "Gene Editing" Technologies affect even Future Generations' GermLine, with Serious Risks not only on Health but also against Humanity.

 Isturiz's brief but substantial Meeting came, by a Timely Coincidence, just after rapidly crossing EPP's Spitzen-Kandidat in 2019 Election, Manfred Weber, following Today's EU Parliament Votes, who Kindly Saluted "Eurofora" with a Smile, recently Back from his Last Tuesday's visit to Budapest, where he reportedly Discussed with Orban (who confirmed that he still Backs Weber for New EU Commission President) the possibilities of a possible working Compromise inside the EPP Family,  even if some points still seem to require further care.

 

 

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Former "Green-Red" German government's Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer's job at the controversial Turkish pipeline "Nabucco" was denounced as "not proper", "very bad", and "incompatible with Democracy", by the new President of EU Parliament's EuroLeft Group, German Lothar Bisky, replying to an "EuroFora" question.

For once, criticism of Joschka Fischer's doings with Turkey affecting Europe, didn't come only from the Center-Right of the political spectrum, but even from his Left side : The experienced Bisky, who has been chairing all over 1993-2009 the PDS - Die Linke party :  

- "Former Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer got involved in dealings with oil-gaz business in a foreign country, Turkey, and its controversial Nabucco pipeline. This raises questions about Democracy, also because of the well known problems of Human Rights violations in that country. Do you thing that this might be abused in order to cover up and close EU's eyes on Human Rights violations ?", "EuroFora" asked Bisky.

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- "Nabucco pipeline is (only) at the planning stage". And "there are some difficulties",  he observed from the start. But "'I don't want to get into the details of Nabucco pipeline, because I don't think that there is any point for it at the moment".
 
At any case,  "we  (EU Parliament's EuroLeft Group) strongly believe that Politicians should not get involved in the Energy Business, and all these commercial transactions", President Bisky declared on the Joschka Fiischer's affair.

- "We feel that it's something that shouldn't be done. It's not proper !"           

- "We don't think that it's compatible with Democracy either, and it gets politics into a very Bad track", Bisky went on to denounce.
                                                                                                                                                                        
- "EuroLeft  and "Die Linke" always spoke against that, saying that politicians should not get directly into the arms of private enterprises"

- "It is pretty bad if a former Minister takes a job f.ex. in a major Energy producer. So, it's an issue if a Minister who may have seen excellent opportunities, subsequently gets personally grasp of them, in very serious parts of the economy, once he has given up his (Government) job."

- "It doesn't really make politics in general look any better'", Bisky concluded.

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Earlier, this week in Strasbourg, other Journalists had also raised critical questions on former Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer's involvement in the conroversial Turkish Nabucco pipeline to the President of his own EuroParty : Kohn-Bendit of the "Greens", who, contrary to Bisky, tried to find excuses for Fischer, while criticizing his long-time partner, Schroeder for having done a similar move :

- "Shroeder was chancellor", and he "negociated" with "Russians", who gave him a job only "3 Months" after he resigned from the Government. While "Joschka Fischer", on the contrary, got a job with the controversial Turkish Nabucco pipeline only "4 Years after" he left the Government. "He didn't negociate Nabucco", so I have "no objection", Kohn Bendit claimed.

But, many Facts indicate the contrary :

Joschka Fischer was Foreign Minister in Germany from 1999 up to 2005 : I.e. from the year that EU took the controversial decision to give Turkey a "Candidate" status, until he year it started controversial "accession negotiations, (later declared "open-ended" after Sarkozy-Merkel's arrival from 2005-2007).

During that period was prepared the controversial so-called "Annan" Plan (in fact, drafted by others and attributed afterwards to the former UN SG) on Cyprus, which failed after a Popular Referendum said "No" on 2004 with a large Majoriy of 3/4 : 75%. Mainly because it was criticized for making too much concessions to the Turkish side :  Particularly by restricting Greek Cypriot Refugees' Human Right to return to their ancestral Land and/or get restitution of their Familiy Homes and private properties, usurpated by Ankara's Army since the 1974 militay invasion and continuing occupation of the northern part of Cyprus. And by weakening the Central Government, leaving to 2 "constituent States" so much powers and separate interests that more conflicts appeared inevitable, provoking the danger of a break-down in the foreseable future, with more crisis, troubles, perhaps bloodshed, etc., instead of creating an harmoniously integrated, really one federal State.

The controversial Plan was finalized on March-April 2004 at Burgenstock (Switzerland), curiously in the presence of an Envoy by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Germany, then governed by Joschka Fischer, but in the absence of a French and not even an European Union's Envoy, contrary to what was usually practiced on similar occasions in Switzerland (fex. in 1997 at Montreux, in 2000 at Geneva, etc).

Turkey notoriously exploited the failure of the "Annan" Plan in order to convince the EU to decide to start accession Negotiations on December 2004. This provoked an unprecedented series of Institutional Crisis inside the EU, shortly afterwards, when French and Dutch People rejected, 2 popular EuroReferenda by a majority "'No" vote to the EU Constitutional Treaty on 2005, aggraveted in 2004 a Majority Abstention to EU Elections, etc., followed by the recent Irish "No", etc.

"Nabucco" Gas pipeline was notoriously planned since ..2002. It follows an even earlier idea, for an Oil pipeline Baku-Ceyhun, which started to be prepared on 1999-2001 and was meanwhile recently completed.  

So, facts indicate that what is now at stake is based on decisions made during Joschka Fischer's term as former Foreign Minister, closely interested in Turkey's controversial EU-bid.

To the point that he now practically ...switched jobs with a poliician from Turkey, (the State which pays today openly Joschka Fischer), Mr. Ozdemir, who came earlier in Germany, got fast the nationality, and became EiuroMP in a few years, continuing now as head of the "Greens" in Germany, i.e. in Joschka's former job !...

Such astonishing facts risk, unfotunately, to give to German politician Lothar Bisky's criticism of  representative Democracy a topical meaning :

 - "We (EuroLeft Group) think that what is really at stake is Democracy. It's not only about Gas Pipelines or Energy sources", President Lothar Bisky went on to add in his reply to "EuroFora"'s question on Joscka Fischer's personal interests in the controversial Turkish "Nabuco" pipeline.

Such facts, "make People get more distance from Politics. ...People had had enough, and they are fed up !".

- "That's why we (EuroParliament's "EuroLeft" Group) want to strengthen Direct Democracy in Europe. Citizens should be involved in the (EU) Decision-making. In the end of the day, it's not going to help anyone if Politicians are always taking decisions, without involving Citizens. We want to give a voice to the People of Europe. They've got to have their say in the decisions that are taken. That's one of our absolutely fixed and steadfast views. We want more Direct Democracy in Europe. That's how it can become more effective and stronger", he concluded.

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