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EPP Secretary General +Top MEP Isturiz to EF on Victor Orban: Unity on 2019 + Discussion on 2020 ?!

Written by ACM
Thursday, 14 March 2019

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*Strasbourg/EU Parliament/Angelo Marcopolo/- The experienced Secretary General of the Biggest European Political Party, that of ChrisianDemocrats/EPP, (Headed by Joseph Daul from Strasbourg, former EPP MEPs' Chairman), Top MEP Antonio Lopez-Isturiz White from Spain, speaking to "Eurofora" Today during EU Parliament's plenary session in Strasbourg, on the "Hot" and Topical controversy on Victor Orban, popular Prime Minister of Hungary's ideas and practice at EU's Political Landscape, including Tensions by a recent Misunderstanding vis a vis Some Other EPP Members, mainly around the Crucial Issue of Mass Migration from 3rd Non-European Countries, strongly expessed his Belief that, Despite some confusing appearances, in fact, the Unity of that Party will be maintained on 2019, but this will be Followed by a Discussion on 2020 :

- "Yes ! Yes !", Positively stressed EPP's Secretary General in Reply to "Eurofora"s relevant Question whether the EPP will Succeed to "Maintain its Unity" after a Forthcoming Meeting of its Political Committee, on March 20 in Brussels, where a Minority has asked for an Exclusion of Hungary's Governing "Fidesz" Party, while Victor Orban, at the same time, reportedly also examines a possibility to eventually form, (if obliged), together with several other EPP and/or not EPP Top Politicians, a New Political Grouping, on the occasion of the forthcoming EU Parliament's Elections of May 2019.

- "But we (EPP) must have a Serious Discussion Next Year", i.e. on 2020, Isturez went on immediately to Add, in his Reply to the above-mentioned "Eurofora"s Question. He didn't yet advance so far as to clarify whether such a move would, eventually, be limited only to the "Fidesz" issue, per se, or Extend Also into a Wider Debate on EPP's Strategic Orientation in the foreseable Future, (as it seems Logical, and supported by Orban and others).

At the Focus of the Disagreement appears mainly the Mass Asylum Seekers/Irregular Migrants' controversy, with Victor Orban denouncing alleged attempts by some inside EU Commission and/or Parliament to curently Hide Draft Texts aiming to Ease Mass Migration (by "Visas", etc), Loss of Borders' Control by National Governments, and Oblige recalcitrant EU Member Countries to accept "Quotas" of Non-European Mass Migrants or face Sanctions in the Future, which risk to Surface only After the 2019 EU Election. EU Commission's Spokesman in Brussels, Margarites Schinas, has reportedly Rejected such Criticism as "Fake News", but the competent EU Commissioner Avramopoulos has not yet been cited in this regard. Orban sticks also to the "Christian" Historic Culture of Europe, and this might, indeed, indispose, eventually, some Islamistic and/or some LBGTI Lobbies, etc., but they have not yet very loudly revealed their probable opposition.

Some eventual Misunderstandings, often pushed by exagerated or inaccurate Press Reports, (as f.ex. that which recently attempted to provoke a Personal Conflict between EU Commission's President Juncker and UK's Prime Minister Theresa May, back on December 2018, but was rapidly Dissipated by Juncker when he explained to May what was the Truth, as he revealed during the Final Press Conference of Brussels' EU Summit then), made also the Hungarian Government to think that Juncker would have Backed such a Motion for Exit from the EPP, to the point to incite Budapest to Start a Campaighn of Posters showing Juncker as if he was Manipulated by Controversial Millionaire Soros, and this inevitably Fuelled Contradictions, Despite the  otherwise "Friendly" character of Juncker as Orban described him at an Interview with "Die Welt" Newspaper. However, following relevant Demands by EPP's Leading Candidate to EU Elections, Manfred Weber, Victor Orban announced that those Posters would Stop from March 15, due to be replaced by New ones, picturing, instead, the "Socialist" Candidate, EU Commission's vice-President Timermans, and Excused himself for any eventual harm that such Criticism might, perhaps, have inflicted to any members of the ChristianDemocrat/EPP Family.

Meanwhile, Victor Orban's "Fidesz" Party has repeatedly Won 3 Elections in a row, once with More than 40% and Twice with More than 50% of the Votes, becoming the Most Popular ChristianDemorat/EPP Party accross the 38 EU Member Countries. Inside the EPP, 10 Small/Medium Parties out of a Total of 80, (among which is Not included Not even One Head of State/Government), have reportedly asked to Oust Hungary. They represent 58 Votes in EPP's Political Committee, which is competent to decide, and has 262 Voting Members. On the Contrary, the French and Italian ChristianDemocrat/EPP Parties (of Alain Wauquiez and Silvio Berlusconi), reportedly Oppose such a Motion, as well as the Austrian, "Visegrad" Countries' (including Poland) EPP Parties, while it's not backed, no more, by the German CDU/CSU, and the Spanish apparently have not yet pronounced themselves explicitly.

Since the recent 2015/2016+ Mass Asylum Seekers/Irregular Migrants UnPrecedented Huge "Tsunami" mainly through Turkey, Followed also by an equally UnPrecedented Multiplication of Deadly Islamist Terrorist Attacks cowardly Targetting innocent Civilian People throughout Europe, even until Nowadays (including, f.ex., the December 2018 Massacre in Strasbourg, the March 2019 Killings in Utrecht, etc), Added also to Various other kinds of Aggressions, Rapes, Harassment, etc, have Notoriously brought that Specific Mass Migration Problem at the forefront of EU Citizens' fears and concerns this time.

But Victor Orban's Hungarian Constitutional reform (as well as in Several Other EU Countries a.o. recently) in favour also of Europe's Christian roots, Natural Family, Human Embryos, etc, Add another, "BioEthical" Factor, in the equation, particularly Needed Recently, as a trend towards Artificial Births under any Pretexts, easily Controlled by Technocrats etc, at the Same Time that Heritable "Gene Editing" Technologies affect even Future Generations' GermLine, with Serious Risks not only on Health but also against Humanity.

 Isturiz's brief but substantial Meeting came, by a Timely Coincidence, just after rapidly crossing EPP's Spitzen-Kandidat in 2019 Election, Manfred Weber, following Today's EU Parliament Votes, who Kindly Saluted "Eurofora" with a Smile, recently Back from his Last Tuesday's visit to Budapest, where he reportedly Discussed with Orban (who confirmed that he still Backs Weber for New EU Commission President) the possibilities of a possible working Compromise inside the EPP Family,  even if some points still seem to require further care.

 

 

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    The recent paradox of freezing EU Talks with front-runner Croatia, while continuing controversial EU - Turkey talks, despite Zagreb's acceptance of Refugees' Human Rights to return, that Ankara refuses fex. in Cyprus, while both have "Good Neighborhood" problems vis a vis Slovenia, or Greece, Cyprus and Armenia respectively, can it be justified by the non-fullfilment of EU criteria, as Slovenia says, or, is it "Double Standards" ?    

The question became unavoidable after statements by Presidents of Slovenia and Croatia, Tuerk and Mesic, respectively, to "EuroFora", exclusively or among Strasbourg's journalists this week at the CoE, on the sidelines of its 2009 Summer University for Political Schools, which topically brought them together as successive key-note speakers.


    Comming only a few Months before EU checks Turkey's compliance to its commitments on Cyprus, etc., scheduled for December 2009, this obviously has a special importance for the coherence of EU Enlargement's principles.

     Suspension of EU Negotiations is a normal consequence in case of a Candidate Country's failure to fullfil EU Conditions, such as "Good Neighborhood relations", stressed at first Slovenian President Danilo Tuerk, current CoE's chair.

    But, regarding EU's Criteria,  there shouldn't be any "Double Standards",  reacted Croatian President Stjepan Mesic, commenting the fact that Turkey's controversial EU negotiations continue, while they were recently "freezed" in the case of Croatia, an "unquestionably European Country", which oficially accepts to respect Refugees Human Rights, contrary to Ankara's notorious refusals or reluctance.                                       

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           - "EU itself has set as a Criterium (for EU Enlargement) the "Good Neighborhood relations",  and their absence justifies the "Suspension" EU Negotiations, (f.ex. with Croatia), because of a Border dispute affecting the territorial integrity of an EU Member Country, stressed Slovenian President, Danilo Tuerk, CoE's Chairman in office (May - November 2009), speaking to Journalists in Strasbourg including "EuroFora".    

Questioned earlier what "consequences on EU's Enlargement policy" can have the "Ban on EU Membership Negotiations", imposed to Croatia, Tuerk replied that "this question comes down to the fulfillement of (EU) Criteria for membership. One has to look at each Candidate Country ., from the point of view whether it fullfils the Criteria that EU has set. One of them are Good Neighborhood Relations, I'd like to remind. And also, there are other factors, such as Justice, Home affairs, Rule of Law, and others".


    - "Now, ..Candidate Countries are at Different Levels of fulfillement of Criteria", he observed.

    - " Croatia is obviously the closest to that. I'm rather optimistic : I think that in the coming Months we'll have an opportunity to look at all these issues constructively and hopefully we'll be able to make progress". "My main concern, at this point, is the situation in Bosnia : We haven't seen enough progres domesticaly. We haven't seen enough during ..political parties within their country.We need a New Energy, a new energetic move towards the Candidature for EU membership. "Other (Western Balkan) Countries (Serbia, Montenegro, FYROM, Albania) have been making soaring Progress, and I think that they should be ready, in a few Years, for the Candidate status".

    - "As far as the Western Balkans are concerned, .. nobody should be left outside" the EU, Slovenian's President concluded, ommitting to mention Turkey's controversial EU bid.

    - "This process may be seen as Slow, but..  Slovenia has also has also been exposed to various "Booms of Slowness" in our accession period. But now we can say that the process was relatively quick, because changes which occur after becoming EU member, are quite large, and they require proper Preparations before the (EU) membership becomes a new factor, an impacting line for a new (EU) member country".
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Slovenian statements made some participants from certain 3rd Countries as FYROM, etc. claim that "the Principle of EU Solidarity" would "produce a.. rising European Union Nationalism (sic !), against Non-EU Countries", as they said, asking unhappy foreign countries to form a "bloc" to exert pressure on the EU...    

But Croatian President Stjepan Mesic dismissed that, supporting "EU Integration", "after the Economy also in Political" issues, as "the achievement" of our times. In EU there is "diversity, but it's United", he stressed, "EU has to be United so that it can become a central factor of Peace" also at the surrounding areas, he replied.

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Speaking later exclusively to "EuroFora", the experienced twice President of Croatia, former President of the International "Non-Aligned" movement, denounced "Double Standards" in the way EU treats recently Croatia compared to Turkey :   

 - "I think that there shouldn't be Double Standards", stressed the Croatian President, in reply to a Question comparing the freeze of EU - Croatia talks, with the continuation of EU - Turkey talks, despite the fact that Croatia is an "unquestionably European country", while Turkey's EU bid is notoriously controversial.


    Mesic was reacting to the observation that, even if he confirmed his "respect of Refugees' Human Rights to return, etc. (See infra), nevertheless, EU talks are suspended with Croatia.. While for oher, controversial candidates, who refuse to respect Refugees' Rights to return, etc., as fex. Turkey does in occupied Cyprus and elsewhere, EU negotiations continue".

    - "I believe that Croatia's accession will confirm that all European Countries who fulfill all of the Conditions and achieve European Standards, have to join the EU. There shouldn't be any Double Standards", went on to add in reply President Mesic.

    In this relation, Croatia's President found "of paramount importance", CoE's "mechanisms enforcing ECHR's judgements"
    
    - "On Refugees and Displaced persons, the process will be completed only after the last person demanding to return will be allowed to do so !", President Mesic Croatia stressed earlier, setting a general standard of obvious importance also for otherr candidates, as f.ex. Turkey, often accused to exclude or heavily restrict Greek Cypriot Displaced persons' return to their Family Homes and ancestral land, provoke difficulties to Turkish-Kurd IDPs return to their home regions at the South-East, etc.

    Some "2.000 People are still reported Missing" in former Yugoslavia, for some Years, (as in Cyprus, modern Europe's oldest case, for 3 Decades. Nagorno-Karabach, Tcecnya in Russia, etc, more recently), and Investigations "will only be completed after establishing the fate of the last one of them", he added.
    
    Speaking earlier on "War Crimes", President Mesic stressed that "Leaders are responsible for (the) Wars (of the Past), not the People", and called against Impunity :  "Individuals have to be held Responsible for Crimes. International Penal Tribunals have to persecute those individuals", perpetrators of War Crimes, he underlined.

    Such statements naturally made Mesic rather popular at ECHR, whose President, French EuroJudge, Professor Jean-Paul Costa, looked particularly smiling when he welcomed him later on Wednesday afternoon, after Slovenian President Daniko Tuerk earlier this week.
           

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