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EPP Secretary General +Top MEP Isturiz to EF on Victor Orban: Unity on 2019 + Discussion on 2020 ?!

Ecrit par ACM
Thursday, 14 March 2019

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*Strasbourg/EU Parliament/Angelo Marcopolo/- The experienced Secretary General of the Biggest European Political Party, that of ChrisianDemocrats/EPP, (Headed by Joseph Daul from Strasbourg, former EPP MEPs' Chairman), Top MEP Antonio Lopez-Isturiz White from Spain, speaking to "Eurofora" Today during EU Parliament's plenary session in Strasbourg, on the "Hot" and Topical controversy on Victor Orban, popular Prime Minister of Hungary's ideas and practice at EU's Political Landscape, including Tensions by a recent Misunderstanding vis a vis Some Other EPP Members, mainly around the Crucial Issue of Mass Migration from 3rd Non-European Countries, strongly expessed his Belief that, Despite some confusing appearances, in fact, the Unity of that Party will be maintained on 2019, but this will be Followed by a Discussion on 2020 :

- "Yes ! Yes !", Positively stressed EPP's Secretary General in Reply to "Eurofora"s relevant Question whether the EPP will Succeed to "Maintain its Unity" after a Forthcoming Meeting of its Political Committee, on March 20 in Brussels, where a Minority has asked for an Exclusion of Hungary's Governing "Fidesz" Party, while Victor Orban, at the same time, reportedly also examines a possibility to eventually form, (if obliged), together with several other EPP and/or not EPP Top Politicians, a New Political Grouping, on the occasion of the forthcoming EU Parliament's Elections of May 2019.

- "But we (EPP) must have a Serious Discussion Next Year", i.e. on 2020, Isturez went on immediately to Add, in his Reply to the above-mentioned "Eurofora"s Question. He didn't yet advance so far as to clarify whether such a move would, eventually, be limited only to the "Fidesz" issue, per se, or Extend Also into a Wider Debate on EPP's Strategic Orientation in the foreseable Future, (as it seems Logical, and supported by Orban and others).

At the Focus of the Disagreement appears mainly the Mass Asylum Seekers/Irregular Migrants' controversy, with Victor Orban denouncing alleged attempts by some inside EU Commission and/or Parliament to curently Hide Draft Texts aiming to Ease Mass Migration (by "Visas", etc), Loss of Borders' Control by National Governments, and Oblige recalcitrant EU Member Countries to accept "Quotas" of Non-European Mass Migrants or face Sanctions in the Future, which risk to Surface only After the 2019 EU Election. EU Commission's Spokesman in Brussels, Margarites Schinas, has reportedly Rejected such Criticism as "Fake News", but the competent EU Commissioner Avramopoulos has not yet been cited in this regard. Orban sticks also to the "Christian" Historic Culture of Europe, and this might, indeed, indispose, eventually, some Islamistic and/or some LBGTI Lobbies, etc., but they have not yet very loudly revealed their probable opposition.

Some eventual Misunderstandings, often pushed by exagerated or inaccurate Press Reports, (as f.ex. that which recently attempted to provoke a Personal Conflict between EU Commission's President Juncker and UK's Prime Minister Theresa May, back on December 2018, but was rapidly Dissipated by Juncker when he explained to May what was the Truth, as he revealed during the Final Press Conference of Brussels' EU Summit then), made also the Hungarian Government to think that Juncker would have Backed such a Motion for Exit from the EPP, to the point to incite Budapest to Start a Campaighn of Posters showing Juncker as if he was Manipulated by Controversial Millionaire Soros, and this inevitably Fuelled Contradictions, Despite the  otherwise "Friendly" character of Juncker as Orban described him at an Interview with "Die Welt" Newspaper. However, following relevant Demands by EPP's Leading Candidate to EU Elections, Manfred Weber, Victor Orban announced that those Posters would Stop from March 15, due to be replaced by New ones, picturing, instead, the "Socialist" Candidate, EU Commission's vice-President Timermans, and Excused himself for any eventual harm that such Criticism might, perhaps, have inflicted to any members of the ChristianDemocrat/EPP Family.

Meanwhile, Victor Orban's "Fidesz" Party has repeatedly Won 3 Elections in a row, once with More than 40% and Twice with More than 50% of the Votes, becoming the Most Popular ChristianDemorat/EPP Party accross the 38 EU Member Countries. Inside the EPP, 10 Small/Medium Parties out of a Total of 80, (among which is Not included Not even One Head of State/Government), have reportedly asked to Oust Hungary. They represent 58 Votes in EPP's Political Committee, which is competent to decide, and has 262 Voting Members. On the Contrary, the French and Italian ChristianDemocrat/EPP Parties (of Alain Wauquiez and Silvio Berlusconi), reportedly Oppose such a Motion, as well as the Austrian, "Visegrad" Countries' (including Poland) EPP Parties, while it's not backed, no more, by the German CDU/CSU, and the Spanish apparently have not yet pronounced themselves explicitly.

Since the recent 2015/2016+ Mass Asylum Seekers/Irregular Migrants UnPrecedented Huge "Tsunami" mainly through Turkey, Followed also by an equally UnPrecedented Multiplication of Deadly Islamist Terrorist Attacks cowardly Targetting innocent Civilian People throughout Europe, even until Nowadays (including, f.ex., the December 2018 Massacre in Strasbourg, the March 2019 Killings in Utrecht, etc), Added also to Various other kinds of Aggressions, Rapes, Harassment, etc, have Notoriously brought that Specific Mass Migration Problem at the forefront of EU Citizens' fears and concerns this time.

But Victor Orban's Hungarian Constitutional reform (as well as in Several Other EU Countries a.o. recently) in favour also of Europe's Christian roots, Natural Family, Human Embryos, etc, Add another, "BioEthical" Factor, in the equation, particularly Needed Recently, as a trend towards Artificial Births under any Pretexts, easily Controlled by Technocrats etc, at the Same Time that Heritable "Gene Editing" Technologies affect even Future Generations' GermLine, with Serious Risks not only on Health but also against Humanity.

 Isturiz's brief but substantial Meeting came, by a Timely Coincidence, just after rapidly crossing EPP's Spitzen-Kandidat in 2019 Election, Manfred Weber, following Today's EU Parliament Votes, who Kindly Saluted "Eurofora" with a Smile, recently Back from his Last Tuesday's visit to Budapest, where he reportedly Discussed with Orban (who confirmed that he still Backs Weber for New EU Commission President) the possibilities of a possible working Compromise inside the EPP Family,  even if some points still seem to require further care.

 

 

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    An "Eugenic" loophole Amendment, which might expose to Dangers reminiscent of "3rd Reich's" notorious Genetic Abuses, hidden at the last minute inside an otherwise Good, larger Health policy Package scheduled to be voted on Thursday, was strongly denounced by a coalition of MEPs from various Political Groups and Countries, in a Press Conference held this afternoon at EU Parliament in Strasbourg.

    Mainly calling to "Select Human Embryos", via "Genetic Counselling" and "pre-implantation" Techniques including "Genetic Tests", in order to "Eradicate Hereditary rare Diseases", it might open ways to Dangerous Practices in Future, they denounced in substance.

    But they also made it clear that a much larger Report inside which this Controversial Amendment "No 15" was added in dubious circumstances, officialy destinated to struggle against "Rare Diseases", and drafted by Professor Antonios Trakatellis, was otherwise "an Excellent Report", aiming at a "completely Uncontroversial target" of Health policy on which "all MEPs and Experts are united, believing that Europe should act" to protect People's Health (See "EuroFora"'s earlier News).

    The controversy came at a particularly delicate moment for the EU in relation to Citizens, at the eve of June 2009 EU Elections, and shortly before Ireland re-votes for "Lisbon Treaty"..    

- Denouncing risks of "an Eugenic demand, very similar to what we had during the 3rd Reich in Germany, but now coming from some Scientisists themselves", German ChristianDemocrat/EPP MEP Dr. Peter Liese stressed that critical MEPs were against "Eugenic" engineering with "Selection of Human Embryos", and anything which might ultimately lead up to to a "Selection of Human Race". It doesn't help to "eradicate" Human Lives, he added.


    Several Experts and NGOs expressed "Deep Concern", as f;ex. DR M.C. Cornel of the "European Society of Human Genetics", which stressed, on this occasion, that "the importance of Non-Directiveness in Reproductive issues is a Central characteristic of Human Genetics, after the Atrocities committed in the name of Genetics in the first half or the 20th Century".

     - "This is completely Unacceptable", stressed Italian Liberal MEP Vittorio Prodi, on the Controversial Amendment, also because pushes to "eliminate early Human Life", as he noted.

     - "This opens a Dangerous Road, rather a Motorway", denounced Danish MEP Mrs Margrette Auken, from the "Greens", observing that various similar attempts were made in the Past "not only in Germany, but also in several other Countries, "even at the 1970ies", "f.ex. on forced Sterilisation of Roma" People, and other criticisable situations f.ex. in the UK, in Sweden, etc. as she said.

    + Other NGOs, as f.ex. "LebenHilfe" from Berlin, added that, among various other Risks, could also be that, by exploiting the pre-implantation Genetic Diagnostics and the Selection of "healthy" Embryos, some may "propagate" several "Eugenic" aims, starting f.ex. by pushing to eradicate Human Livies which might "Cost too much" to preserve, ultimately exposing to dangers reminiscent of the "3rd Reich"'s atrocious abuses.

    In consequence, ChristianDemocrats/EPP and "Green" MEPs "decided by Majority to vote against" this Controversial Amendment, anounced to Journalists the 5 MEPs who participated in the Press Conference, representing a wide spectrum, from Liberals to "Greens" and ChristianDemocrats, and from Hungary, Italy, Germany and Danemark up to Ireland (Gay Mitchell), etc.
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    Hungarian ChristianDemocrat MEP Laszlo Surjan said "that it was "Suddenly, at the End of the Procedure" in Committee, that "appeared this (Controversial) Amendment, which has nothing to do" with the main purpose of the Report, on which all agreed.

    He denounced an "Unhonest" move, and called to "avoid this kind of unacceptable situations". Nobody should "Select People", Surjan stressed.

    - "We (MEPs) had No Chance to Discuss" this last-minute Amendment earlier added at a Committee's level, said German MEP Peter Liese

    Speaking to "EuroFora", Dr. Liese, the Spokesman of the ChristianDemocrat/EPP Group in EU Parliament, said that MEPs didn't oppose other references of the Report f.ex. on "Genetic Tests", because they were "no proposals" to impose them, while, on the contrary, there was "a Problem" if anyone attempted to "impose" f.ex. this or that Genetic Technique and "Genetic Counselling", etc. to the People on human reproduction.
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    Controversial parts of Amendment No 15 ask mainly "to lead finally to the Eradication" of "Hereditary" "rare diseases", "through Genetic Counselling .., and ..pre-Implantation Selection of healthy Embryos".

    But  EU Rapporteur Professor Trakatellis, said to "EuroFora" that fears should be alleviated by Guarantees that all this should be done only "where appropriate", when it's "not contrary to existing National Law", and "always on a Voluntary basis", according to other Parts of the Amendment.

    He stressed that the main aim was to allow "a free and informed choice of persons involved", without imposing them anything :  - "It's not an obligatory, but advisary" text, he said.

    To make that point clear, he was ready, in agreement with many MEPs, to eventually drop at least that part of the controversial Amendment which initially called for "efforts to ..lead finally to the Eradication of those rare diseases" "which are Hereditary".

    But, until late Wednesday evening, reportedly together with many other MEPs, he stood by all the rest of the controversial Amendment, (fex. on the "Genetic Counselling" and the "pre-implantation Selection of healthy Embryos"), so that critical MEPs, going from ChristianDemocrats as Dr. Liese, to "Greens" or "Ind/Dem", observed to "EuroFora" that "this was not enough" to close the dangerous loophole.

    Particularly since, as Professor Trakatellis noted himself, "this is already allowed to the U.K.", and "other National Legislations would probably follow, sooner or later" in a similar direction. As for a general call to "Eradicate Hereditary rare Diseases", this "should happen, at any case, in practice, de facto", to protect public Health.

    On the contrary, "our goal should be to help patients suffering from rare diseases, not to eradicate the patients. In case of genetic disease risk, the decision should not be guided by scenarios" made by politicians. "Perents who may decide to accept a child, even if handicapped or with genetic disease, must be respected and supported with solidarity", critical MEPs stated.

    - "Any Pressure" to "a patient or couple (who "should be able to make an informed choice consistent with their own values"),"from health Professionals, Public Health Policies or Governemental Institutions, or Society at large, should be avoided", stresses the "European Society for Human Genetics".

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Each MEP's vote will be registered !

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The Socialist Group requested a "Split vote" on the Amendment 15, first without, and afterwards with the words "lead finally to the Eradication" etc.


    But the first "split vote" leaves intact all the other parts of the Controversial Amendment, (i.e. "Genetic Counselling", "Selection of healthy Embryos", etc).

    That's why, 3 Groups of MEPs : ChristianDemocrats/EPP, "Greens/EFA", and "Ind/Dem", have asked for "Roll Call Votes", on everything regarding the Controversial Amendment No 15, and on the final outcome of the resulting Report as amended, which will register all the individual positions to be taken by each MEP.   

Something which will obviously make each MEP think twice before voting for one or another choice, to be sure that he/she will make the right choice in front of EU Citizens, particularly at these pre-Election times...


    Crucial Votes were scheduled between 12 Noon and 1 p.m. local Strasbourg time, in the middle of a long series of various other Reports, and after a long Public Debate on the larger Health policy package, from 9 to 11.50 am.

    The specific Report inside which was hidden the controversial Amendment is due to be debated between 11 and 12 am.

    So that more last-minute Surprises may not be excluded a priori...

    Particularly at the present Historic moment, when even the Institutional Future of the EU depends on the result of a second Referendum on "Lisbon Treaty", later this year, in ...Ireland, a mainly Catholic country, where People are particularly sensitive in such kind of socio-cultural and values issues...
 

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