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PanEuropa International SG Barisic to EF: Multilingual Web Translation: Vital for EU Integration

Written by ACM
Thursday, 17 January 2019
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While EU is currently shaping its Digitalisation Strategy, a Debate in EU Parliament on "Education in the context of Digital Age", gave "Eurofora" an opportunity to raise the nowadays practical Issue of the Need, for EU's Education, Medias, Debates, Elections, etc., to use developed OnLine Automatic Translation Tools, in order to use EU's MultiLingual Potential. Organized, with the Participation of University Professors, and MEPs from the Biggest Political Groups, that Debate's panel included also "Pan-Europa International" movement's Secretary General, Professor Pavo Barisic, a twice former Minister for Science and Education, from the University of Zagreb, who Replied to a relevant "Eurofora"s Question on a transversal Topical Issue :


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 - "Eurofora" observed that MultiLinguism had been evoked as an interesting factor for Nowadays Education in Europe, and we added that this also goes often for Medias, Politics, Debates, Elections, etc. In this regard, wouldn't it be important for Europe to Develop New Technologies of Automatic Internet Translation ?", we asked.


Naturally, this should Facilitate, not hinder, European Education's traditionally "Holistic" and Humanist dimension, (since the Ancient Greek Civilisation's times, with Aristote, etc), aiming to "Speak to the Heart and the Mind" of the People, "Eurofora" added, referring to relevant observations by both Professor Barisic and Austrian MEP Lukas Mandl, President of EPP's "PanEuropa" Working Group, earlier Today, (See also Infra).


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 - "Automatic Translation is a very Important point", acknowledged in Reply to "Eurofora"'s Question, the German MEP Sabine Verheyen, the competent vice-President of the ChristianDemocra/EPP Group, also as its Spokesperson on Education and Culture, (as well as vice-Chair of EU's Delegation to South Afrika). - But, we also Know how "Difficult" it still is, to have Automatc Translation, she warned, at least for the Time being. Certainly, Education in English language coud cover almost everything, But we need also Education f.ex. in German, Verheyen added, particularly f.ex. in Training, and/or in an Holistic approach of Education, in order to Convay the right Values, by Speaking to People's Heart, she pointed out.  

 

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- Since Communication is the 1st Basic Competence, in this regard, "I am Grateful to you for Raising this Issue", because "MultiLinguism, particularly in Europe, is a Pivotal Requirement", stressed with emphasis "PanEuropa"s Secretary General, Professor Pavo Barisic, turning to look straight towards "Eurofora" who had put the above mentioned Question. Just to take 1 Example : one of the most Important works in Education in Europe was conducted by Alexander von Humbolt, (the famous German Explorator). He worked with more than 8 Languages ! Because Communication is where you Start including Communication through Languages", in this kind of activities.


- Digital "Technology can, of course, Help us, including Automatic Translation", Professor Barisic acknowledged.  


-  "But, what Human Beings do is really UnImitable ! It canNot be Replaced", he warned.


- And, "People can be Motivated, if they are provided with the Basic Skills, during all their Lives", (i.e. with Life-Long-Learning", etc), he concluded on MultiLinguism. And "Motivation is the Key", Pavo Barisic underlined in fine.  


Naturally this Fits quite well, inter alia, also with Humbolt's Paper "on the Diversity of Human Language" and "its Influence on the Mental Development of the Human Being". There he stresses that "The bringing-forth of Language is an inner Need of Human beings, ...a thing lying in their own Nature, indispensable for the Development of their mental powers ..., to which man can attain only by bringing his Thinking to clarity and precision Through Communal thinking With Others".


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=> Further Discussions between "Eurofora" and some other key Members of the "PanEuropa" Group, on the above-mentioned issues, Added, from a Practical point of view, the empirical Observation that current on-line Automatic Translation tools' Imperfections, certainly canNot replace a really Human and well-made Translation, but it can considerably Enlarge its overall Scope, Europe-Wide, (particularly by using also a spontaneously triggered, and proven efficient, practical Method of coming and going from the Automatically Translated vesion to the full Original Text, using at least a Basic Knowledge of the Languages to translate from,  in order to Rectify most inaccurancies provoked by the Insufficient yet development of the currently available On-line Automatic Tanslation Tools. After all, the Need to Boost Innovations able to considerably Augment those Digital Tools' Efficiency on MultiLinguism, was, right from the Start, a Main point in "Eurofora"s Question (Comp. Supra).

 

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ECHR's President to "EuroFora" on Journalists Gongadze and Adali murders : Principles must apply to all States, without discrimination.


+ ECHR's Statistics on Freedom of Expression (See below).


 European Court of Human Rights' President, Jean-Paul Costa, questioned by "EuroFora" on Journalists' murders, as in Gongadze and Adali's cases etc., strongly stressed all CoE Member States' obligation to make efficient Investigations to find and punish those responsible, and underlined that ECHR's case-law's principles must apply to all without any discrimination.

His call was clearly supported by various Top MEPs who denounced a risk of "Double Standards" if some Journalists' murders are investigated, while others don't.

To avoid such risks, CoE's Parliamentary Assembly adopted a Resolution, on the occasion of Ukranian Journalist Gongadze's murder, "stressing", as a matter of general Principle, "the importance it attaches to the safety of Journalists and political activists, especially those linked to opposition groups, in ALL member states of the CoE". All "crimes against journalists and political activists must be investigated ... as a matter of priority, without political interference".

Costa was replying to "EuroFora"s question on the fact that, after CoE's Committee of Ministers, also CoE's Assembly had just adopted a Resolution on Gongadze murder case, based on an ECHR's judgement of 2005, asking a full Investigation from Ukraine, who has found and condemned  in 10 years of jail 2 executants, but not yet the instigators.

While nothing similar was yet done for dissident Turkish Cypriot Kutlu Adali's murder, with 5 bullets shot at his head out of his Family's home in the territories of Cyprus occupied by Ankara's army, despite another ECHR's judgement of the same year 2005, and despite Turkey's claim that nobody was found among those responsible for the murder, and that there was nothing more to do..

In order to be credible and efficient, CoE's mechanisms shouldn't find a way to at least ask for full investigations of all Journalists' murders anywhere they might be committed, without exceptions ?

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- "On the larger question that you raised, I'd like to say, since we are in a period of stock-taking on ECHR's 50 Years, that the Court's case-law developed certain concepts ....such as the Positive obligations of States, part of which are also the procedural obligations", started to reply ECHR's President.

 - "Whenever Journalists, Lawyers, Defenders of Human Rights, or even simple Citizens are murdered, the States are held responsible, not only if its their own security forces' agents who committed these murders, but also if they didn't make sufficiently substantial and efficient Investigations", he stressed.

- "I want to strongly underline that we (ECHR) have found in many cases numerous violations of Articles 2 and 3 against States, ....(about) murders or torture, ...because they didn't make enough Investigations in order to try to find and punish those responsible".

- "We (ECHR) do that vis-a-vis all 47 (CoE) Member States, without any discrimination".

"Naturally, the circumstances in each particular case may be differend, and we can't ommit to apply the rules of proof, or the rules of criminal procedure".

"But we try, by all means, to apply these principles of our case-law, to all States", he concluded.

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      Costa's call was strongly supported by several Top CoE MEPs, from various Political areas


- "To investigate the murder of one Journalist, and not of another, looks like Double Standards", denounced the President of EuroLeft Group in CoE's Assembly, Dutch MEP Tiny Cox.  

- "What is the reason ? Politics or specificity of a case ? Of course, if Cyprus and Turkey are involved, it's always a Political case"..

- "Murders of Journalists should always be fully investigated, because killing Journalists is not only killing persons, but also killing Free Press".  "We (CoE's Assembly) should do our outmost to help People who are working on Free Press and they are under threat or murdered".

Because for Free Politics, Free Press is a pre-requisitive : Parliamentarians  cannot  function without a Free Press. Not investigating, is not protecting ourselves".

So we should investigate all Journalists' murders : We are talking about Gongadze, about the Cypriot man (Adali), about the Journalist murdered in Moscow one week ago, etc", Cox concluded

- "CoE can' look at these cases differently. CoE can't wear Blinckers  !".
- "If the one is investigated, so has to be also the other. Why there wasn't full investigation ? Why's that ?", wondered British  Socialist MEP, Alan Meale.

- "A good idea" would be to "make a Motion for Resolution", and "join all Journalists' murders. Adali and Gongadze etc", said to "EuroFora" EU Parliament Political affairs Committee's President, Goran Lindbland, ChristianDemocrat MEP from Sweden.


(See also earlier News at "EuroFora" on similar issues).
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ECHR's Statistics on Freedom of Expression :


    Almost Half of condemnations by ECHR for violations of Freedom of Expression in 2008, concern Turkey : 20 out of a total of 48 for all CoE's Member States.

    Russia, Poland, France and Moldova were condemned only 3 times. Romania, Greece, Portugal, 2 times, and the other CoE Member States only 1 time, or none.
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    During the last Decade : 1998 - 2008, Turkey was condemned for violating Freedom of Expression in ..169 cases, while Austria only in 24.

    France and Moldova in 14 and 13, respectively, closely followed by Russia and Poland with 11 and 10, respectively. The rest of CoE Member States had less than ten condemnations.    
    

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