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Sarkozy with Leftist Human Rights Defender v. Communautarism-Turkish Ghetto: Integrate Immigrants !

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Donnerstag, 10 Februar 2011
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    A well known Center-Right Political Leader, as French President Nicolas Sarkozy, speaking tonight in a large public TV program, was unexpectedly joined in his strong denunciation of Lobbies which oblige Immigrants to stick together in Cultural Ghettos formed by a MultiCultural "Communautarism", i.e. in separate Communities, and was surprisingly supported in his plaidoyerie in favor of Immigrants' "Integation", by a ...Leftist Intellectual, former Resistant and Deportee to NAZI Camps, f. Ambassador to the UN and writer of Books on Human Rights, who was honored by UNESCO and the CoE, Stephan Hessel, speaking the same evening in an event organized by the Socialist Mayor of Strasbourg and the CoE...

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    Agreeing with German Chancellor Angie Merkel and New British Prime Minister David Cameroon, Sarkozy stressed from the outset, in reply to French Citizens' questions, that, in his view,  - "MultiCulturalism utterly failed, because some were more concerned with the Identity of immigrants who were arriving, while they didn't care enough for the Identity of their Host Country".

      -"We don't want, and, at any case, it's not France's project, to have a Society where (differend) Communities co-exist, side by side", the French President underlined.

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 - Because, "when someone comes in France, he/she accepts to become integral part of the unique existing Community, which is the National Community (of the Host Country). And if he doens't accept that, then, he can't be welcome in France", he warned.


     - "The Countries, as the UK or the USA, who thought to develop this MultiCulturalism, i.e. Community by Community, reinforced Extremisms". Because "each one, thinking that he belonge to a (separate/differend) national Community, developed his Defenses against the others", he denounced.


- "But, we (France) don't want that !". . It's perfectly clear that we don't want that !", Sarkozy strongly rejected any Communautarism.


- Therefore, "I share the views of (German Chancellor) Mrs Merkel and of (Brittish Prime Minister) Mr Cameroon", (who had both recently denounced the fact that "Multi-Culturalism failed", stessing the need for immigrant's "Integration", instead of "living together" in separate "Communties" ).


To be honest, "this raises the question of Islam, and (of) our Muslim compatriots. Refuse to raise that, under pretext that Extremists from both sides might exploit it, is an error  : Problems aren't resolved by refusing to speak about them.


-"My position is the following : Our Muslim compatriots must be able to live and practice their Religion as anyone among our compatriots, Jew, Protestant, Catholic, etc.. But it can only be a French Islam, and not an Islam in France. This isn't possible", he stressed.


"That's why, f.ex., I pushed to vote the Law prohibiting Burqua: We don't want in France women with full, total (islamic) scurf". "We don't want, in France, that some may pray, conspicuously, at the Street".


(On the contrary) we say that it's normal in France to have religious buildings where our compatriots can celebrate their faith. We are a Laic country, with a separation between State and Religion, Pray doesn't insult anyone".


"But we don't want, inside the French Republic's territory, to have an Aggressive Religious Proselytism.


- "No Hypocrisy.... When someone lives in France, he/she brings something, but he also respects its way of life. The French National Community doesn't want to change its way of life".


- "F.ex. we can't make compromises on the Equality between Women and Men. The Freedom of young Girls to go to School. We don't want, f.ex., that Imams' might preach Violence. We don't want that ! It doesn't exist !  Also, f.ex., we don't want to change the Calendar", etc.


- "We consider that Religion is respectable, but it's part of private life, not of the public area", the French President reiterated.
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    - "Without speaking of Ghetto, how is it possible to integrate Immigrants when they are all grouped together in a same district ?", questioned Sarkozy a French Citizen of Algerian origin. "On the contrary, when I came to France, aged 8, all my Family was living in the middle of French People, speaking French", she noted.

      Sarkozy didn't deny that problem, but replied in substance that, in order to avoid such "Ghettos", Immigrants should be integrated with a Job and a Home. And, since this isn't currently possible here, particularly during the present Global Crisis added to previous Mass arrivals, the only praticable solution now passes through a kind of Doube-track action, using both the control of Migratory flux, and the current 2011 French G8  - G20 Chairmanship in order to boost the Development of poor areas like Africa, etc., so that their population wouldn't have to emigrate abroad just to find a living.


    I.e. an orginal synhesis of a traditional "Right"'s Speach ("monitor Migratory flux"), with  a traditional "Left's idea (Development of poor countries)...

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 "EuroFora" remembers that the 1st Warnings against Social and Political Risks of "Cultural Ghettos", where some Foreign Governments pushed "their" Immigrants to aggregate, (condemning Children to lose opportunities in Education, imposing Foreign TV, Media, Language, etc., spying and close monitoring by Foreign States' Agents, who apparntly  abused such "Ghettos" in order to massively interfere in the internal affairs of their Host Country), had been initially denounced inside the CoE by Experienced Danish and other Scandinavian Experts, who had a large opportunity to study such phenomena, particularly among Turkish groups as they said, already more than 12 Years earlier ...

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    But it was certainly a big Surprise for all involved, to find, the same day that French President Sarkozy strongly denounced such Negative and Dangerous "Communautarisms" in general, that even an unquestiionable Personality of the Left, long-time supporter of the Socialist Party, even former candidate of "Greens", partisan of a Leftist alternative in next years' Elections in France, former Resistant and Prisoner of NAZI Extermination Camps, f. Ambassador to the UN, writer and mlitant for the Universal Declaration of Human Righs, as well as for a renaissance of the French National Resistance Council's programme, UNESCO 2008 Prize for Human Rights' promotion, who was invited by the CoE to be the main Speaker in its "Strasbourg's Dialogues" event, destinated to promote Democratic and Human Rights Values, warmly welcomed by the Socialist Mayor of the City, Roland Ries, with a Humanist Poem of Appolinaire, to which he replied with a similar one but longer, adding also a Hoederlin's poem from his Franco-German Family, neverheless, clearly stressed his agreement with the substance of Sarkozy's criticism against "Comunautarism", stressing the need to "Integrate" Immigrants, precisely as Center-Right's leading politicians underline today in France, Germany and even the UK... (See supra).


    Hessel's unexpected reaction against "Communautarist" Cultural Ghettos, which was made even after explicit and topical references to "Turkish Districs" (See infra), threw cold water among an obviously "Socialist" Majority of Spectators, who systematically applauded any word favorable to the Socialist Party, but suddenly remained excepionaly silent, apparently because they supported some Lobbies' suspected attempts, inside the Local Muncipality's "Socialist"/"Green" coalition, to impose, for the 1st time in History, to many Strasbourg's longtime Citizens, precisely such kind of "Turkish" and/or other "Ghetto Districts", with Turkish local Politicians, Turkish local "Security" officials, NGOs, etc., who came a few years earlier from elsewhere, and already started to spectacularly change, alter, ("mutate" would be more accurate...) the Demographic Composition of certain "targetted" Districts, that they suddenly started recently, only 1,5 Year after the last local elections, to look, more and more similar to ... the Middle East, Ankara, Istanbul or Pakistan (Mosque with Minarets, systematically ostensible Islamic Headscurfs, Djellabas, "Turkish belly danse", aggressions against Christian Churches, long-time Inhabitants intimidated, harassed and otherwise pushed to leave away, systematic massive arrivals of immigrants of similar origins etc. included)

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  - An experienced Journalist of the Local Newspaper for Strasbourg's Region, Alsace,  DNA, questioned Hessel on the Controversy about "Turkish Districts", as he said, where the concentration of mainly 1 Community of Immigrants was reportedly accepted, at least in the Past, by the U.K. and several Scandinavian Countries, but still provokes some resistance, f.ex. in France or Germany, etc., because of differend ideas about "Integration", as he observed.


    Astonishingly (for an Historic "Leftist"), the former Resistant and Prisoner of NAZI Concentration Camps, Franco-German Diplomat and Human Rights Defender, replied by a strong and crystal-clear Refusal of that kind of "Turkish (a.o.) Districts", that he condemned as an erroneous and dangerous "Communautarism" :


    -  It's "Right to stand for the Integration" of immigrants, because we have already seen that such "Communautarism" is a "Bad solution" , sharply stressed Hessel. ...


    - At any case, "it must not occur during a long period of time", he warned.


     - Even if  it might happen, at the beginning, for some immigrants to stick closely together because they don't know yet their Host Country and feel Strangers there for a while, nevertheless, if they don't mix up soon with other People, but persist to meet only between themselves, then, they are not going to be "integrated" in the society in which they live,  he denounced.


     - On the contrary, immigrants should, f.ex., join and participate into "Common Organizations", shared by all the People of their Host Country, (f.ex. Educative or Cultural Organizations, Sport Clubs, Trade Unions, Religious communities, Political Parties, etc), the experiened Hessel advised. Something which is in direct Opposition f.ex. to the .... "Turkish Immigrant Workers Association", "Turkish Youth", "Turkish Mosque", "Turkish Cultural Centre", "Turkish Cinema", etc. even ..."Turkish Football Club" (sic !),  as a French Lady from Strasbourg's outskirts earlier complained to "EuroFora" and other people, surprised by such an exceptionally stuborn and obviously excessive Turkish Nationalism of some groups, which is not seen (at least not at that level) in any other category of immigrants from various other States in the World...


    - Europe "must not fall to the same errors as the Anglosaxon Communautarism" of the last decades, the experienced Franco-German Writer and Diplomat warned, inevitably reminding to "EuroFora" a hallycinating spectacle, seen around London when we had lost our way at the Sub., partly closed a few days after the 2nd Deadly Terrorist Bombings of July 2005, and desperately searched how to run fast for the Press Coverage of a Political Meeting at the other side of Greater London, making the Mistake to get out at various erroneous Sub. Stops, where everything looked as if you were in ... Pakistan, or in Africa, or in Latin America, China, etc., according to the District in which you were walking....


    Something which we hadn't seen at all during many long Summers spend at the UK in the 1960ies and 1970ies, and was recently denounced also by the New British Prime Minister, David Cameron on 2011, while, in the meantime, several links of such "Cutural Ghetto"-Suburbs of London even with Extremists or Terrorists of various origins, (f.ex. Bin Landen himself, Tchetchens, 2005 Subway Bombers, would-be Hi-jackers, etc), added to a notoriously growing Educational and Social gap, proved even socially dangerous.


    - "However, in the USA, even if there might remain still some districts with predominant immigrant communities, nevertheless, most of them "have acquired a Culture of a Common Belonging, which makes them feel entirely American", Hessel rightfully observed.


    It's in Obama's hometown : Chicago, that "EuroFora" had, indeed, a good opportunity to be surprised by the fact that even some Young Immigrants of 2nd generation living and married with persons of same origin (but no more in "Ghettos", it's true), nevertheless, spontaneously revendicated and felt proud to "be American", as they said in front of us, back on 2005, during a visit after UNO's Heads of State/Government "Reform" Summit at New York.


    An aspiration or "feeling of common belonging" that Americans notoriously promoted among European and later African, Asian, Latino-American, a.o. immigrants particularly when it was urgently needed there in the Past in order to build a State from scratch : Something similar to what Europe obviously needs today, mutatis - mutandis, in order to build a New Kind of Community between Europeans...

  "EuroFora" was glad to find that spirit, f.ex., recently in the case of a Young Taxi Driver whose parents had come in Strasbourg from Morocco, but stressed that he felt proud to "be French", and thus fully European, having been born, educated, worked and married in Strasbourg, becoming so "integrated", even in practical issues, that he succeeded to immediately find an obscur address lost somewhere among the Hundreds of tiny villages around Strasbourg, where we had to run fast for the Press coverage of French President Sarkozy's speech to the "Rural World" :  Apparently, this young person of immigrant origin knew better Strasbourg's Countryside even than some "original" French friends who had honestly acknowledged that they ignored the details of that village, as we also did despite living in Strasbourg for more than 34 Years..


    What a lack that this young person had not been closed all his life into a cultural "Ghetto" !... Unlike another Taxi Driver, of a differend origin (notoriously fond of "Cultural Ghettos"), who had just got recently his licence, and proved, astonishingly, to be so ignorant of Strasbourg's map, that he wasn't even able to find ...the main entrance of the City's Hospital's Headquarters, leaving us for almost an Hour vainly waiting outside during an exceptionally cold Night plenty of Snow...

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    The incoming Swedish EU Presidency (July-December 2009) may still remain in favour of Turkey's controversial EU bid, despite June 2009 EU Elections' results, but it has "very strong demands on Turkey"'s obligation to respect EU Rules, said the Head of Swedish Foreign Ministry's Press Service, Cecilia Julin, to "EuroFora", reacting to critical Press reports.

    - "I know (that) the link is often made also to Sweden's position on Turkey"'s controversial EU bid. Indeed, "we (Swedish EU Presidency) are very much engaged in the future membership of Turkey, but not without fullfiling all the Criteria".

    - "It's very clear that we (Swedish EU Presidecny) have very Strong Demands on Turkey, in a sort of concept for Future membership of the Union, ...which will be a Long Process...", she stressed.

    This means, in particular, "the Copenhagen Criteria (on Human Rights, Democracy and Rule of Law), and also the adaptation to the Acquis of the European Union".

     - "If you listen to what Mr. Bildt (the Swedish Foreign Minister) says on Turkey at different occasions, it's very clear : We want Turkey to become part of the Union, in the Future. But we want it to fullfil all the Criteria : The Acquis of the European Union. That's very clear", she concluded.

    The Senior Official of the Swedish Foreign Ministry was reacting to critical Press Reports, from Brussels' Journalists invited by EU Commission's secretariat to Stockholm, who claimed that Bildt was abusing of a ..."Whip" (sic !) against Cyprus, by "threatening" the presence of UNO's Peace-keeping force at the "Green line" which separates the island's Government-controlled areas from the territories occupied by Ankara's army, if Nicosia didn't accept any political solution, regardless of Turkey's demands, before the end of 2009.

        Governing AKEL Party's new Secretary General, Andros Kyprianou, reacted by declaring that no-one can threat the People of Cyprus : -"We shall decide for our Future, and nobody else",  he reportedly said, asking to "keep calm". "In order to find a Solution soon, certain basic Principles must be respected", he stressed, calling those who feel an urgency to use their influence on Turkey. Other Political Parties were more critical.

    This was a reference to recently reported statements by Turkish Minister Bagis, Prime Minister Tayip Erdogan and Turkey's National Security Council (a Military-Political body), accused to push towards a partitionist "2 States" solution, contrary to UNO SC Resolutions for Cyprus' reunification.

    December 2009 is a crucial moment for EU's appraisal of Turkey's controversial EU bid, because EU Council has decided to review then Ankara's compliance with the European position on the recognition of Cyprus' Government, which was clearly set out by an EU reply of 21 September 2005 to Turkish Prime Minister Tayip Erdogan's claims, refusing to recognize even the existence of EU Member Cyprus, in controversial statements he made to London (former EU chair) on July 29, 2005.

    EU Parliament's latest Resolution on Turkey, adopted on March 2009 in Strasbourg, warned Ankara that "the non-fulfillment of Turkey's commitments... by December 2009, may further seriously affect the process of Negotiations" with the EU.

    In practice, the issue boils down to Ankara's "embargo" against Ships and Airplanes using Cyprus' seaports or airports at the strategic EU island, which traditionaly hosts one of the World's biggest Shipping flags. EU has already "freezed" 6 relevant Chapters in EU - Turkey Negotiations since December 2006, after Ankara refused to fullfil a commitment it had undertaken when EU had decided to open controversial "accession" negotiations with Turkey, back on December 2005.

    - "As far as EU - Turkey relations are concerned, it's clear that Turkey needs to fullfil its obligation of full, non-discriminatory implementation of the additional Protocol (to "EC-Turkey Association Agreement"),  This is an important issue....and should be addresseed as soon as possible as it clearly affects the pace of the accession negotiations.Issues covered by the Declaration of September 2005 will continue to be followed up, and progress is urgently awaited", warned earlier in Strasbourg the out-going Czech EU Presidency (former vice-Prime Minister Alexander Vodra).

    But the Head of the Swedish Foreign Ministry's Press Service, Cecilia Julin, dismissed "interpretations" by "some" that Foreign Minister Carl Bildt was reportedly "threatening" Cyprus with consequences on the UNFICYP, if it doesn't accept any solution until December 2009, while Turkey is reportedly delaying in an attempt to impose a partitionist "2 States" solution.

    On the contrary, Julin, stressed that "Sweden has strong demands on Turkey'"s respect of "Copenhagen Criteria and EU Acquis".

    Meanwhile, Sweden  is "concerned" about the risk of "Stalemate" in Cyprus' Talks, but is well aware that "the main responsibilities lie with the two leaders and the UNO", Europe playing only a role of "facilitator".

    After carefully verifying, the Head of Swedish Foreign Ministry's Press Service, stressed to "EuroFora" that Bildt's reference to UNFICYP "was not linked to a Threat", and dismissed those who "interpreted" it so.

    On the contrary, the Swedish EU Presidency acknowledged the fact that Peace Talks are mainly for the UN and the leaders of the Cypriot communities, EU's role being limited into that of a "facilitator".

    As for Turkey's reported attempts to impose a "2 States' solution", the Head of the Swedish Foreign Ministry's Press Service sharply replied by stressing that Turkey must respect the "EU Acquis" rules.

    In particular :

    - "Basically he (Bildt) underlined that it's the leaders of the two communities in Cyprus and the UN that have the main responsibilities for solving the problem", started to say the Swedish Senior Official to "EuroFora", referring to the above-mentioned "briefing".

    - "But the EU had a role in sort of pointing out the benefits and facilitating a little bit the outcome for the settlement of the whole Cyprus' issue", she added.

    - "And he did state the Fact, that the rest of the World (i.e. USA, etc) will, of course, look at the differend issues which are at the table, and the future of the UN Peace keeping force is part of what is at the table", she admitted.

    - "I understand that some have interpreted that as a Threat, by the Swedish Minister" "But", in reality, "it's a statement of a Fact, that, when we'll look at the differend issues, one of the issues on which we shall have to take a stand on, is the future of the UN Peace keeping force in Cyprus".

    Indeed, one of the questions usually raised for a Solution of Cyprus' issue is what International and/or European or other Guarantees, by a Peace-keeping force, might be needed afterwards, eventually for a transitory period.

    Questioned anew by "EuroFora" whether (according to critical Press Reports) this could be taken as a veiled warning that, if Cyprus didn't accept any Turkish demand for any solution whatever, it might be left alone to face Ankara's Military Invasion/Occupation, she denied :

    - "He (Bildt) didn't say it in that way"... "It was not linked to a threat, or anything like that", the Head of the Swedish Foreign Ministry's Press Service stressed.

    On the contrary, "he (Bildt) underlined that the main responsibility lies with the parties concerned on the island". "The EU can try to facilitate and show the benefits of reaching a settlement. But also, when the EU and the rest of the World (i.e. USA) will have to look at it, they will look at all the Facts on the table, and the presence of the UN Peace-keeping force is one".

    And "he (Bildt) didn't speak about that at all", she replied to "EuroFora" question on Turkey's reported attemps to impose, in one way of another, a partitionist "2 States solution".

    Asked whether Bildt's aim was to incite both parties to move forward efficiently, she agreed :

    - In fact, "the EU is really very concerned with the Stalemate in the situation. Yes !", the Head of Sweden's Foreign Ministry's Press Service anounced. That's why Bildt "was hoping for the two parties (i.e. for Turkey's also) to engage and break, a little-bit, the present stalemate, come to a solution of the issue" of Cyprus.

    But, replying  to a "EuroFora"s question on the risk, denounced by several politicians in case of strict Time Deadlines, for Turkey to provoke a stalemate and wait for the time to come to impose a partitionist "2 States' solution", she reacted by pointing at Turkey's obligation to respect "EU Acquis" :

    - "Turkey must fullfil the EU Acquis : That's clear !", the Swedish Senior Official stressed.

    More details are expected when Swedish Prime Minister Reinfeldt will debate his Programme with new MEPs at EU Parliament's plenary mid-July in Strasbourg, that he has visited already in 2008.

    Foreign Minister Carl Bildt became familiar with Strasbourg's CoE last year, when Sweden chaired the PanEuropean organization of Human Rights. As EU chairman-in-office, he will also chair the 27-member States strong EU Group inside the 47-member States strong CoE.

    Minister for EU affairs, Cecilia Malmstrom is well known at EU Parliament, where she has been an active MEP of the Liberal Group for many years, following also Press Freedom issues.

    Both have already made various statements at "EuroFora", on differend topical matters.

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