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Georgian President Saakashvili to EuroFora: AGRI Gas Ship Transport faster than Nabucco.
Georgian President Saakashvili to EuroFora: AGRI Gas Ship Transport faster than Nabucco.

A Direct Energy Transport road from the Caspian Sea right to EU's Franco-German+ industrial core, thanks to the new AGRI project, between Energy producer Azerbaidjan, Georgia and EU Member Romania, is currently advancing well, and is expected to develop faster than an old and controversial Turkish pipeline project, (too long, too risky and without enough gas), replied Georgia's President. Mikheil Saakashvili to "EuroFora".

- "We are interested for Democracy, Peace and Stability in Georgia, because we want to make Investments in that area", observed inter alia Buzek.

"EuroFora" asked Saakashvili how things are evolving on the new Azerbaidjan - Georgia - Romania project, the "AGRI, natural liquefied Gas transport plan by Ship", (thanks to High-Tech compression inside Containers), from the Caspian through the Black Sea to EU Member Romania, right at the Danube - Rhine Rivers link, able to bring Caspian Energy directly to EU's Industrial core
- "Now you have the project", "EuroFora" reminded to the President of Georgia one of our earlier encounters at the CoE in Strasbourg, where he had initially told us, carefully, that "this was a good idea, but I prefer to examine real projects"...
- "Yes, of course", I "remember", Georgia's President confirmed now, saluting "EuroFora".
- "It goes, so far, very well", Saakashvili estimated.
- "Actually, I mean, it's very sound Technically", he observed, evoking the New High-Tech solutions of gas liquification and/or compression.
- Moreover, "all the sides agree, not only Romania and the Azeris, but now, Bulgaria is also very interested, etc", he anounced.
- "And the Hungarian, forthcoming EU Chairmanship, shouldn't it be particularly interested, because of the Danube/Rhine River potential ?", "EuroFora" suggested.
- "Hungarians were of course there, with (new Prime Minister) Victor Urban. We had discussions, and he is coming back to the region", Saakashvili revealed.
- "So, (the AGRI project) it's on the move, and it will happen Faster than, I think, anything else", he concluded.
- "Technically, it stands the route, and, I think, it will bypass Nabucco" : I.e., it will be ready "before" the controversial Turkish old plan for a too Expensive, too Long (zig-zaging far away from Europe), and too Risky (facing Dangers of Earthquakes, Violent Confkicts, Political Blackmails frequent by the Turkish Government, etc), as well as probably useless, (given the existence of better Alternatives), Gas Pipeline, which is moreover threatened to stay practically .. Empty, without enough available gas to fill it up...
Meanwhile, previously scheduled Investments for Nabucco were recently "postponed", on October 2010, for the Next Year (2011) according to specialized Media reports.
The mention of "Technical" points made by S in his reply to E, probably refers to current New Technology innovations which might result into an even Cheaper price, f.ex. thanks to a "Compression" technique, supposed to be even better than Liquefied Gas, according to other sources.
Meanwhile, even the President of gas-producer Azeribaidjan, Aliyev himself, recently stressed that his country is "in favour of Diversifying energy resources' transport Routes", as he reportedly said in relation to "European state's interest"
The AGRI project was recently described at the CoE in Strasbourg by the experienced Azeri EU affairs' Minister Guliev, earlier in Strasbourg (See relevant "EuroFora"s publication).
The new Direction for International relations at "Gaz de France" has also recently told "EuroFora" that they found the Black Sea - Danube/Rhine rivers NLGas Ship Transport idea as very interesting.
New EU Commissioner on Energy, German Gunter Oettering, has already expressed to "EuroFora" his intention to explore EU's new possibilities for Energy Transport through the Danube/Rhine rivers and Black Sear link, etc., both in 2009 (at Bonn's EPP Summit) and in 2010 (in Strasbourg), and he is currently preparing EU's Energy Strategy, due to be presented, debated and voted at the 1st half of 2011, i.e. under Hungarian EU Council chairmanship.
If, (as it was initially scheduled, and several times underlined in Statements given to "EuroFora"s co-founder by Romanian President Trajian Basescu), this schema leads into organiing Danube/Rhine River transport links for Natural Liquefied Gas, then, it would obviously open new ways for all Countries in the region to benefit together, including Russia, who is also Member of the Danube Navigation control body, headquared in Budapest, (while Rhine Navigation's watchdog is located in Strasbourg).
Indeed, Russia, as well as other countries, could f.ex. use the Romanian Sea/River port at Danube's Delta, and/or open a new access through Ukraine's part on Danube's delta, if really needed.
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Former "Green-Red" German government's Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer's job at the controversial Turkish pipeline "Nabucco" was denounced as "not proper", "very bad", and "incompatible with Democracy", by the new President of EU Parliament's EuroLeft Group, German Lothar Bisky, replying to an "EuroFora" question.
For once, criticism of Joschka Fischer's doings with Turkey affecting Europe, didn't come only from the Center-Right of the political spectrum, but even from his Left side : The experienced Bisky, who has been chairing all over 1993-2009 the PDS - Die Linke party :
- "Former Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer got involved in dealings with oil-gaz business in a foreign country, Turkey, and its controversial Nabucco pipeline. This raises questions about Democracy, also because of the well known problems of Human Rights violations in that country. Do you thing that this might be abused in order to cover up and close EU's eyes on Human Rights violations ?", "EuroFora" asked Bisky.

- "Nabucco pipeline is (only) at the planning stage". And "there are some difficulties", he observed from the start. But "'I don't want to get into the details of Nabucco pipeline, because I don't think that there is any point for it at the moment".
At any case, "we (EU Parliament's EuroLeft Group) strongly believe that Politicians should not get involved in the Energy Business, and all these commercial transactions", President Bisky declared on the Joschka Fiischer's affair.
- "We feel that it's something that shouldn't be done. It's not proper !"
- "We don't think that it's compatible with Democracy either, and it gets politics into a very Bad track", Bisky went on to denounce.
- "EuroLeft and "Die Linke" always spoke against that, saying that politicians should not get directly into the arms of private enterprises"
- "It is pretty bad if a former Minister takes a job f.ex. in a major Energy producer. So, it's an issue if a Minister who may have seen excellent opportunities, subsequently gets personally grasp of them, in very serious parts of the economy, once he has given up his (Government) job."
- "It doesn't really make politics in general look any better'", Bisky concluded.

Earlier, this week in Strasbourg, other Journalists had also raised critical questions on former Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer's involvement in the conroversial Turkish Nabucco pipeline to the President of his own EuroParty : Kohn-Bendit of the "Greens", who, contrary to Bisky, tried to find excuses for Fischer, while criticizing his long-time partner, Schroeder for having done a similar move :
- "Shroeder was chancellor", and he "negociated" with "Russians", who gave him a job only "3 Months" after he resigned from the Government. While "Joschka Fischer", on the contrary, got a job with the controversial Turkish Nabucco pipeline only "4 Years after" he left the Government. "He didn't negociate Nabucco", so I have "no objection", Kohn Bendit claimed.
But, many Facts indicate the contrary :
Joschka Fischer was Foreign Minister in Germany from 1999 up to 2005 : I.e. from the year that EU took the controversial decision to give Turkey a "Candidate" status, until he year it started controversial "accession negotiations, (later declared "open-ended" after Sarkozy-Merkel's arrival from 2005-2007).
During that period was prepared the controversial so-called "Annan" Plan (in fact, drafted by others and attributed afterwards to the former UN SG) on Cyprus, which failed after a Popular Referendum said "No" on 2004 with a large Majoriy of 3/4 : 75%. Mainly because it was criticized for making too much concessions to the Turkish side : Particularly by restricting Greek Cypriot Refugees' Human Right to return to their ancestral Land and/or get restitution of their Familiy Homes and private properties, usurpated by Ankara's Army since the 1974 militay invasion and continuing occupation of the northern part of Cyprus. And by weakening the Central Government, leaving to 2 "constituent States" so much powers and separate interests that more conflicts appeared inevitable, provoking the danger of a break-down in the foreseable future, with more crisis, troubles, perhaps bloodshed, etc., instead of creating an harmoniously integrated, really one federal State.
The controversial Plan was finalized on March-April 2004 at Burgenstock (Switzerland), curiously in the presence of an Envoy by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Germany, then governed by Joschka Fischer, but in the absence of a French and not even an European Union's Envoy, contrary to what was usually practiced on similar occasions in Switzerland (fex. in 1997 at Montreux, in 2000 at Geneva, etc).
Turkey notoriously exploited the failure of the "Annan" Plan in order to convince the EU to decide to start accession Negotiations on December 2004. This provoked an unprecedented series of Institutional Crisis inside the EU, shortly afterwards, when French and Dutch People rejected, 2 popular EuroReferenda by a majority "'No" vote to the EU Constitutional Treaty on 2005, aggraveted in 2004 a Majority Abstention to EU Elections, etc., followed by the recent Irish "No", etc.
"Nabucco" Gas pipeline was notoriously planned since ..2002. It follows an even earlier idea, for an Oil pipeline Baku-Ceyhun, which started to be prepared on 1999-2001 and was meanwhile recently completed.
So, facts indicate that what is now at stake is based on decisions made during Joschka Fischer's term as former Foreign Minister, closely interested in Turkey's controversial EU-bid.
To the point that he now practically ...switched jobs with a poliician from Turkey, (the State which pays today openly Joschka Fischer), Mr. Ozdemir, who came earlier in Germany, got fast the nationality, and became EiuroMP in a few years, continuing now as head of the "Greens" in Germany, i.e. in Joschka's former job !...
Such astonishing facts risk, unfotunately, to give to German politician Lothar Bisky's criticism of representative Democracy a topical meaning :
- "We (EuroLeft Group) think that what is really at stake is Democracy. It's not only about Gas Pipelines or Energy sources", President Lothar Bisky went on to add in his reply to "EuroFora"'s question on Joscka Fischer's personal interests in the controversial Turkish "Nabuco" pipeline.
Such facts, "make People get more distance from Politics. ...People had had enough, and they are fed up !".
- "That's why we (EuroParliament's "EuroLeft" Group) want to strengthen Direct Democracy in Europe. Citizens should be involved in the (EU) Decision-making. In the end of the day, it's not going to help anyone if Politicians are always taking decisions, without involving Citizens. We want to give a voice to the People of Europe. They've got to have their say in the decisions that are taken. That's one of our absolutely fixed and steadfast views. We want more Direct Democracy in Europe. That's how it can become more effective and stronger", he concluded.
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