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EUCommission V.President Dombrovskis to EF: Citizens Dialogue + Alternat. SmartPhone OS not excluded
EUCommission V.President Dombrovskis to EF: Citizens Dialogue + Alternat. SmartPhone OS not excluded

*Strasbourg/EU Parliament/Angelo Marcopolo/- Experienced vice-President of EU Commission and former Long-Time Prime Minister, Valdis Dombrovskis from Latvia, replying to "Eurofora"s Questions in a Press Conference at EU Parliament in Strasbourg on the conclusions of the 1st Meeting of the New EU Commission (2019-2014) here, did Not Exclude, a priori, in view of the forthcoming "Conference on the Future of Europe", the possibility to eventually launch "Regular Dialogues" with EU Citizens before EU "Acts" affecting them, by activating Lisbon Treaty's Article 11 (See Infra), and, concerning EU's Wider "Digitalisation" Plans, he Agreed that, "Probably", EU would "have to Look at" the notorious China Offer for Cooperation with Europe for the eventual Creation of an Alternative SmartPhone Operation System, (able to Face the currently Global Dominance of Google's Android and/or Apple, which raises Questions even inside the USA), as part of the key "Topics" that these larger processes have just Started to explore.
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- In "Eurofora"s 1st Question, we observed that "President Dombrovski informed about EU Commission's First Discussion on the "Conference on Europe's Future", Today in Strasbourg, after relevant moves also by EU Heads of State/Governments latest Summit and EU Parliament's Constitutional Committee, last week in Brussels", (See, f.ex. : .., etc).
- "Concerning the OPEN Question how to associate Citizens, which might become one of the most innovative Socio-Political aspects, don't you think that, Nowadays, when we celebrate 10 Years of Lisbon Treaty, the Time has come to Activate one of its Articles : Number 11, which speaks about "Regular Dialogue", "Consultation" and "Exchanges", etc., with Civil Society and Citizens, on "Acts" to be made by any among the 3 EU Institutions : Council, Commission or Parliament ?", "Eurofora" asked vice-President Dombrovskis.
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- "On the Conference for the Future of Europe", as You Know, right Now Discussions are Currently still On-Going, on What Exactly are the Best Forms of Engagement, both Inter-Institutionally, and with Citizens", he replied.
- "So, what we (EU Commission) had Today was an "Orientation Debate", introduced by vice-President Suica, and it's clear that it will follow 2 Distinct Strands :"
- "One is an Inter-Institutional Strand, where (EU) Commission will act as a Honest Broker, between EU Parliament and Council".
+ "And, the 2nd Strand, that You ("Eurofora") mentioned, is, indeed, to ensure a Broader Outreach, and to have a Debate with (EU) Citizens", (i.e. Not a mere Consultation).
- The later will be "Structured around (EU) Commission's 6 Priorities, and the (EU) Council's Strategic Agenda", he announced.
- "So, on the Exact Modalities of those strands, Work is Still On-Going. This was (just) the 1st Orientation Debate that we had in College", Dombrovskis stressed Carefully, but, also, withOut Excluding a priori what "Eurofora" had suggested around Lisbon Treaty's Article 11.
=> In consequence, "it will be Advancing in the Comming Weeks and Months", he foresaw, (while, this Same Day in Strasbourg, in parallel, EU Parliament Presidential Committee's "Working Group" on the CFE has Scheduled another special Meeting, Later this Afternoon, held "in camera").
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+ in the 2nd "Eurofora"s Question, we observed that EU Comission's vice-President "spoke about Digitalisation, and stressed that it's very Important, but, nowadays, when Citizens and Companies see what's happening in the Global Dimension, unfortunately, we are sometimes Sadened, because we do Not yet see the EU Present in certain Flagship Areas :"
- F.ex., considering Even the Demand of our Chinese Competitors but also Partners, about the Possibility for the EU to Help have (World-wide) an Alternative Operating System for SmartPhones (Comp. the Recent "Huawei" - "Google/Android" row) :
- "A Sector in which We (EU) already have some elements, while Europe was a Pioneer in SmartPhones, thanks to our Finnish friends, who (by a Timely Coincidence) hold the EU Presidency now", so that we (EU) might, eventually, be able to do something", "Eurofora" suggested.
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- "On the 2nd Question, of Digitalisation, I think that it'not a coincidence : this is one of the Main Priorities of the New (EU) Commission (2019-2024): to Ensure that the EU is Fit for Digital Age", stressed Dombrovskis in his Reply.
- "There, we (EU) have to look at a Number of Aspects : at Competitiveness in the Digital Age, at Companies, how succesfully they are Performing at the Digital Age, how could we Develop our own companies in the Digital Age", (etc).
- "I would not now Go to the Specific Issues for Topics, because there are, actually, Many of them", he warned.
+ However, "Probably, As You ("Eurofora") Mentioned, Operating Systems for SmartPhones, Could be just one of the Topics to look at", vice-President Dombrovskis agreed.
- But, I would say, the Issue is Much Broader, Both from Competitiveness point of view, and also from the Social point of view : Because we have to adjust our Social and Labour Market Legislation to the Digital Age, to ensure what we already did in a previous Commission : - "Social Protection for All", i.e. regardless of the type of the Contract People are contributing to, and, then, eligible to the benefits of Social Systems, and, currently, also striving to improve the Working Conditions in the Platform economy, which is also relevant to this issue of Digitalisation".
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They voted to "freeze" UK Government's draft to put People in jail for 42 Days on "anti-terrorist" suspicion without charge, or they abstained. Don't they look suspect ?
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CoE's debate on UK controversy stirs PanEuropean check of anti-terror suspects' imprisonment
Former Leftists of the Sixties would boil in hot water if they heard PACE's debate on the controversial 42 days detention without charge, currently drafted by the British Government :
A "Socialist" Government, a Socialist PACE Rapporteur and a Socialist Chair of PACE's Legal Committee, opposed a .. "Conservative" amendment (supported by .. Liberals, Democrats, etc), to freeze the measure, in order to protect Citizens' Freedom, by "waiting" until CoE's Venice Committee checks its conformity with Human Rights' principles.
"Left"'s support to Conservative-Lib.Dem's criticism, wasn't enough to obtain a majority, nor to make things as they were back in the good old days, when "Left" and "Right" had a clear meaning, as "liberty" and "restrictions"...
Conservatives and most Democrats were joined by the Left in voting for the "freeze", as well as Liberal Paul Rowen, while Socialist MEP Ivan Popescu, an experienced MEP from Ukraine (PACE Member since 1996-2008) abstained. But most Socialists, added to a few Liberals and EPP's Right, voted against.
Fortunately, someone inside PACE had the wise idea to shorten the Debate for less than 1 Hour, and put it on the Agenda only at the end of an exceptionally busy day, towards the end of the Evening, when most MEPs had already gone to taste wins and foods at various Receptions all around Strasbourg's "European" area : As a result, not even 42 MEPs weren't present..
Socialist Lord Tomlinson accused the leaders of the PanEuropean Assembly, in its highest body : the "Bureau", to "lack wisdom" by deciding to hold a Debate on an issue that neither the Socialist Chair of the Legal Committee, nor its Socialist "reluctant Rapporteur", did "not want to do", ...

Finally, everybody (critics and supporters alike) was happy to agree, in substance, that the controversial measure "may" gravely violate Human Rights, and therefore, PACE asked Legal Experts of Venice Commission to check UK Government''s plans.
But this might take more than .. 42 Days to do, since PACE's Rapporteur asked the Experts to enlarge their study in a PanEuropean comparison of all that is happening on "anti-terrorism" legislation in 47 CoE Member Countries, including Russia, Turkey and Azerbaidjan..
Bad lack : "The existing 28 days’ detention without charge in the UK is, in comparison with other CoE member countries, one of the most extreme : In Turkey, the period is 7,5 days, in France 6 days, in Russia 5 days, and in .. the U.S. and Canada just 2 and 1 days respectively", denounced Democrat MEP Ms WOLDSETH from Norway..

"Numerous respected human rights organisations, including Liberty and Human Rights Watch, have expressed serious concern" "The proposed legislation ...could easily lead to extensive abuses. ...Detention for 42 days means six weeks in which one is taken away from one’s family, friends, home and livelihood only to be let off without being charged. That will destroy lives and isolate communities", she added.
- "3 years ago, the UK Government sought to increase the period of pre-charge detention from 14 days to 90 days. Not long before that, it had been only 7 days. There was a vigorous debate ...and a ...compromise was reached of 28 days. We have to ask whether there are proper safeguards in place to extend the period to 42 days. I suggest that there are fatal flaws", reminded British Conservative Clappison.
- "What sort of society holds someone in detention for 42 days and does not have to tell the person who is in prison why they are there, or explain the suspicions that arose and led to their detention? What sort of society believes that that is the way to treat its citizens? That is an appalling injustice, ...A 42-day detention period will not make the UK safer. Instead, it will be the first step to giving in to terrorists; it is saying that we are prepared to sacrifice our democratic rights and the principles for which we have stood for centuries", criticized British Liberal Michael Hanckock

"Comments made ...by Norwegian delegates are unfortunate", replied British Socialist MEP Ms.Curtis-Thomas, accusing them to "besmirch the reputation of our police force, which is one of the Best in the World", as she said, believing that "there are significant safeguards ...to ensure that individuals are not subjected to unlawful detention"

PACE "has serious doubts whether ...the draft legislation are in conformity with the ...case-law of the European Court of Human Rights. A lack of ..safeguards may lead to arbitrariness, resulting in breaches of ... liberty and ...right to a fair trial". PACE "is particularly concerned that: ..the judge ..may not be in a position to examine whether there exist reasonable grounds for suspecting that the arrested person has committed an offence;"; that "... representation by a lawyer may be inappropriately restricted or delayed;" that "information on the grounds for suspicion of a person ...may be unduly withheld.. ;" that this "may give rise to arrests without the intention to charge;", and; in general, that "prolonged detention without proper information on the grounds for arrest may constitute inhuman treatment", says Klaus De Vries' Report, adopted with 29 votes against zero.

Records don't say if it took him 42 Days to draft his Report, but, at least, he knew why...

















