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Russian People Record Vote for Natural Family as France Postpones Artificial Births for Lesbians Row

Written by ACM
Friday, 03 July 2020

 

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Due to Enter into Force Tomorrow (4 of July) in Russia, is also a landmark Constitutional Amendment for Natural Family, with Marriage between a Man and a Woman, (therefore favorable to Natural Births too), which was Just Voted by a Record High Super-Majority of 78% of Russian People, after an, Also, Exceptional 65% Turnout among Registered Voters, and a Public Campaign of many Months (since before January), Despite the Virus' Pandemic,

almost at the Same Time that France Postponed sine die a Controversial planned attempt to Impose, in catimini, Artificial Births at the Demand of Lesbians, in an UnPopular and Nowadays Risky for Humankind, OutDated Pre-Electoral 2017 alleged Concession to some LGBT Lobbies, apparently Manipulated by Shady Technocrats' Groups, as Genetic Manipulations on Human Embryos crossed, Meanwhile, very Dangerous "Red Lines" on 2018-2020, (See Facts reminded Infra)...

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    These Same Days that the Important Final Round of French Municipal Elections for New Mayors throughout All Cities in the Country didn't attract But Only a Minority of almost 40% of Registered Voters, (Less than in the 1st Round !), and Even the Politically Crucial Parliamentary Elections in Croatia, due to Chose the Government of the Counry, Also fell in a Minority Participation of Less than -50%, for the First Time since the 1990 Elections of the "Democratic" Period, as noted "Wikipedia",

it's Only the "Hotly" Disputed Polish Presidential Elections, with a Big Turnout Close to 64%, and these Russian Constitutional Amendments' Vote which Succeeded to Attract a Super-Majority of Popular Participation up to More than 65% of Registered Voters...Both included a Key Issue on Natural Family !

    + In Addition, this Widely ReNovated Russian Constitution of 2020 was Supported by almost the ...Double of Voters, than the Previous one, Dating from 1993, with more than 57,7 Millions of People Now, Instead of Only Fewer than 33 Millions then !

    For the 1st Time, even ...Cosmonaut Anatoli Ivanishin Voted, up from the International Space Station, thanks to a New, Special Digital Technology, ensuring Direct Broadband Communication to Russia, withOut Risks for the Secret of Voting, as "RosCosmos"' Chief Rogozin, reportedly announced...   

    >>> As for the Record-High Positive, "Yes" Percentage with a Super-Majority of 78% of the Voters, it was succesfully obtained Now,

    Despite an "UnPrecedented" level of various "Attacks", mainly of "Foreign" origin, as Denounced Valentina Matviyenko, Speaker of the Russian Federation Council (Senate) : She Citted, f.ex., among others, also "DDos Attacks on the Central Election Commission's (CEC) Websites", "especially from Foreign Internet Accounts", in Addition to "a Flow of Fake-News and Lies, Far Away from Reality", together with "Doctored Videos which attempted to Provoke a Negative ambiance vis a vis this Vote", (etc).

    => The Russian Federal Council will Draft "a Report on July" about such a lot of Facts of "brazen Interference in Rusia's Sovereignity and Domestic Affairs, Violation of Laws, and Spreading of Fake-News", that will be Drafted and Discussed by the competent "Commission for the Protection of State Sovereignity and Prevention of Interference in Russia's Domestic Affairs, chaired by Andrei Klimov, a Top MEP well Known at CoE's HeadQuarters and in EU Parliament in Strasbourg, (Cf. Various Matvienko and Klimov Statements to "Eurofora", earlier, f.ex., at: ...  ..., etc). Already, the Commission "Officially Denounces the Fact that the ... Vote on Amending the ...Constitution was among the Targets of a Foreign Attack", with "Various Illegal Campaigns Forced on us", seeking "to Discredit ...the Amendments... and the Procedure of the Vote", through "Mass Medias outlets, Social Networks Controlled by the West, NGOs and Activists who Constantly collaborate with Overseas Organisations" Abroad, etc. According to Klimov, some "Western Countries, headed by USA, have been Deliberately pushing an illegitimate Interference in the Sovereign Costitutional process, Since mid-January".

    It's true that this 2020 Russian Constitutional Reform is Not a Usual one, but quite Original :

    - F.ex., in Addition to Power Structure Issues, (as on the Presidential Mandate, on Strengthening Parliament's role and Government's Accountability, Boosting a Constitutional Court, Priority of the Constitution over International Treaties, etc), it Also contains a lot of Socio-Economic Issues, (such as Pensions' revalorisation, Minimum Wage's level Guarantee, support to Affordable Quality Health Care for All, etc), as well as Key Society-Wide Matters, (f.ex. on Science, Culture, Historic Truths, Language, Children and Youth, "Care of all Generations of a Family for Each other", etc), including even Popular in Rusia references to "Ideals and Belief in God", Natural Family, etc.

    - According to Presiden Vladimir Putin, the "Changes will enshrine Key Values of the Russian People in the Constitution". Kremlin's Spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, indeed, stressed that "the Difference ...in 2020 was that, Now, more Substantive Amendments" have been proposed. -"The situation is Different. Now the Focus is made primarily on those Amendments, which strengthen the country’s Sovereignty and Social nature of our State". "Those Focal Points which come to the Forefront ... are the Most Important for the Citizens , as was seen during the Public Discussion ...of these Amendments.", he reminded.

    => - "For me, the Most Important Amendment is that which stabilizes Marriage as a Union between a Man and a Woman !", has interestingly stressed Duma's vice-President, Pyotr Tolstoy, Head of the Russian Delegation of MEPs at CoE's PanEuropean Assembly in Strasbourg...  

    + Indeed, that's the Only Popular Issue which has Already brought moe than 1 Million Citizens to repeatedly Demonstrate at the Streets of France, particularly on 2013-2014+, against Attempts to Impose the Controversial and UnPopular so-called "Same Sex Marriage", then Notoriously Pushed by Former POTUS Barack Hussein Obama, exerting Pressure throughout all Europe, and accross the World, even by Bullying Poor Countries in Africa and elsewhere ! And, mutatis-mutandis, Similar Ideological, Social and Political Movements were, notoriously, Shaking also USA's internal Debates, among Conservatives and Simple People, at least up to 2016+...

    >>> It's true, however, that the PanEuropean Convention of Human Rights, (whose 75th Anniversary is due to be celebated on Novembe 2020 in Athens), in its Article 12, explicitly reserves to "Men and Women" the "Right" to "Marry" and "found a Family", with a Crystal-clear Defense of the Natural, Traditional Family between a man and a woman, (and, therefore, to Natural Births of Children, too).

    Nevertheless, already, Various, Indirect but potentialy more or less pernicious or even Dangerous, Attempts to "Interpret" and/or "Apply" the ECHR in Nowadays' Challenging situations, particularly coming from Overseas, (especially during Obama's era : Comp. Supra), have notoriously Started to, more or less, Bypass, Diminish, Undermine or Marginalize that ECHR's consecration of the Natural Family, (Even if Nobody Dares yet ask to ... eventualy Modify that PanEuropean Convention Openly : Something apparently Impossible !).

    => That's one reason more, for which Several EU Countries, (such as, f.ex., Poland, Latvia, Hungary, Slovenia, Croatia, etc, followed also by an Attempt in Romania, etc), had Recently started to, precisely, introduce the explicit Consecration of Natural Family inside their own National Constitution, (as, Also, several USA's Member States). A Movement succesfuly Extended Now, on 2020, Also to Russia...

    For the 1st Time in History, Meanwhile, Russia had become very Popular even among ...Conservative American Nationalists, of the Right, (including Intellectuals, Politicians, and Simple People), precisely Because of President Vladimir Putin's Defense of Natural Family, to the point that a large Global Conservative Movement on Christian Families, (HeadQuartered at USA's Illinois), naturally promoting the Traditional Marriage, had even Decided to, Exceptionaly, Organize its Bi-Annual International Conference in Moscow, back on 2014, (where, it was Hindered, at the Last Minute, by the "Sanctions" imposed on Russia under Pretext of the provoked Conflict in Ukraine, during Obama's/Biden's era)...

    + Meanwhile, President Vladimir Putin had been Criticized by some LBTG Activists, but became Popular among the Majority of Russian and Other Countries' People, for having, notoriously, "passed a Law Banning the Propaganda of Homosexuality among Minors" since 2013, as he recently reminded himself.  - "So What ?", he questioned Nowadays. "It's no big deal ... Our Position is Clear" : - "Let People Grow up, Become Adults, and, then, Decide their own Destinies", he reportedly pointed out. Homosexuals, as such, indeed, are No More Oppressed in Russia since 1999.

    ++ And, concerning Children, “as far as ‘Parent No 1’ and ‘Parent No 2’ goes", (the Names often Technicaly used vis a vis a "Same Sex Marriage" : See Infra),  ...- "As long as I’m President this will Not happen. There will (Always) be Father and Mother !", Vladimir Putin promised, according to Reuters.

    >>> However, even Famous Black Singer Richie Havens, who had Opened the "WOODSTOCK" Rock Festival of 1969, with his UnForgetable Song "FREEDOM", (Inspired by an Historic Negro Spiritual song "MOTHERLESS CHILD"), apparently, Fell, Nowadays, Victim of Blatant... CENSORSHIP by some "LGTB" Extremists, who ... Systematicaly ERASED, in allmost ALL Versions Published at the Web of the "LYRICS" of his Song, the WORDS : " - "WHEN I NEED MY FATHER, HEY, FATHER !"... ("I can Call him up from my Heart"), and some Vandals went as Far as to Erase Also the WORDS ..."MOTHER, HEY, MOTHER !"...     

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    This is an Astonishing FACT, that "Eurofora" was genuinly Surprized to Find out these very Days, while Searching, at the Internet, for the Full Text of that Landmark, Historic "Woodstock" Emblematic Song of the UnForgetable "Sixties"... Only a somehow Marginal, ...German (sic !) Website, had a Real Full Version of Haven's Song's Lyrics, with the Simple WORDS "FATHER" and "MOTHER", Together with "MY HEART" and "FREEDOM", as it Really was in the Original, World-Famous Song of the Emblematic Black Singer at the Historic "Woodtstock" Festival !

    >>> Such an Incredible Oppressive Incident, coming Exactly the Years 2019-2020 that French People and others are Desperately Struggling to Prevent a very Dangerous for Humankind, Electoralist Reform, pushed by some LBGT Lobbies, Manipulated by Shady Technocats' Groups (See Infra), which Threatens to Impose, for the 1st Time in History, Thousands of ARTIFICIAL BIRTHS of Children, at the Command of Lesbians, WITHOUT ANY Known FATHER, through an AbNatural  Process Exclusively CONTROLLED BY TECHNOCRATS, (a Social-Moral Conflict which had Already Filled Paris' Avenues Last Year with Hundreds of Thousands of Popular Demonstrations Denouncing, precisely, the abnormal, InHuman and Dangerous Imposition of "FATHERLESS CHILDREN", (an EMBLEMA of those Popular Movements), Obviously is a Blunt Warning of the Horrible, Anti-Democratic Fact that such kind of Brutal Web "ATTACKS" just Denounced by Presidents Matvienko and Klimov at Leningrad and Moscow (Comp. Infra) regarding the Popular Vote on Russia's New Constitutional Amendments, including that Landmark Support to Natural Family, most probably are part of Nowadays' Reality, where some incredibly Anti-Democratic Wrong-Doers have, Obviously Fallen Down to Abysmal Lows, in Attempting to MUZZLE the PEOPLE...

    => As such things go, the NEXT STEP would, Probably, be to Completely ERASE at the Internet EVEN THE WORD ..."MOTHER" (sic !) from that Emblematic Richie Haven's "Freedom" Song at Woodstock Festival's Historic 1969 Opening, (which Notoriously stems from the Traditional Negro Spiritual Song "MOTHERLESS CHILD"), When such Extremist "LGBT" Lobbies, (as Always, Manipulated by some Shady TECHNOCRATS), will Start to Attempt to Impose in Europe even the Horrible "SURROGATE MOTHERS"' Exploitation (as f.ex. in India, etc), notoriously Abused for Artificial Births commanded by somc "Gays" Couples, but Controlled by Technocrats, through "Sperm Banks" and "Donors", IVF, Transplantations, and, Finaly, Taking the Baby Away from the Woman who helped Make it inside her (Rented) Womb... Indeed, those would Really be, also ..."MOTHERLESS CHILDREN" !

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    But, even if some Homosexuality might, perhaps, have existed, more or less precariously, at the Margins of Society, already since Hundreds or Thousands of Years, here or there, Nevertheless, it's Astonishing to find that, Suddenly, it all Started to Radically Change, by a "Coincidence", almost around the (Earlier than Expected) Deciphering of the Human Genome, at about 2.000 AC !

    Until then, everywhere, most Homosexuals used to live their own Lives, with their Specificity, withOut Risking to be Humiliated or Ridiculized, sometimes threatened to lose their Dignity, by Attempting to Clumsily ...Imitate the Heterosexual Couples, Pretending to Always be exactly Like them, from almost Any point of view, and at Any Price...

    However, after 2000 (Comp. Supra, on DNA sequencing), and, particularly, After a Decade of Former POTUS Obama/Biden era (2008-2017), Suddenly, it all Started to Change, Revealing that, in Fact, what was Really at Stake, it's Not so much the Homosexuals themselves, But, rather, ... the CHILDREN that might, eventualy, be Attributed to them ! And, as Homosexual Couples are, Naturaly, Sterile, it's all about ARTIFICIAL BIRTHS, (since so-called "Adoptions" canNot be Enough), obtained by TECHNOCRATIC Means, f.ex. through Sperm Banks/Donations, IVF, Transplantations, Surrogate "Mothers", etc., i.e. Constantly Exposed to Obvious RISKS of GENETIC MANIPULATIONS ON HUMAN EMBRYOS, (See also Infra)... There, Inevitably, Homosexuals serve Only as a PRETEXT, submerged in a Much Bigger than them "Whirlpool", where it's some Shady Technocratic Lobbies that Dominate, with Obvious Risks for the Future of Humankind... (See also Infra).           

    In the Post-Obama/Biden USA it's almost Already done, (with a Popular Opposition, however, Eager to Revive the Struggle for Natural Family and Births), But, Nowadays, it's mainly in European Countries like France that it's still on the Making, full of Contradictions, where Everything seems yet Possible : After a Tricherous 1st Stage, around 2000, when "Socialist" former Prime Minister Jospin promised that it will all End, simply, by Giving to Homosexual Couples a special Status of "PACS", for some Basic Legal Rights, came a Brutaly Oppressive 2013-2014+ Period with Former "Socialist" President Holland, when he Imposed, by Force, against a Large Popular Wave of Protests, the so-called "Same Sex Marriage", (However, while Also Delivering Children to the "Authority" of Homosexuals on Pretext of so-called "Adoptions", But Vowing that this was "Enough", and Ensuring that Fears to Fall, subsequently, Even on "Surrogate Mothers" for "Gay" couples, and/or Sperm Banks, IVF and Transplantations for Lesbian Couples, would be an "Exagerated" Nightmare, withOut any link to Reality)...

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    + Nevertheless, Suddenly, just a Few Years Ago, Until, still, These very Days, Some LGBT Lobbies, (as Always Manipulated by Shady Technocrats' Groups), Started to Claim that an obscure Pre-Electoral Promise of President Macron would have been to Absolutely Impose Artificial Births of Fatherless Children by Command of Lesbians through some Technocratic, absolutely AbNatural Procedures, (including, inter alia, f.ex., also Sperm Banks/Donors, IVF, Pre-Natal Tests, Implantations, etc), which would, Inevitably, Not only Cost a very Heavy (but useless and Totaly UnRelated to Human Health) Burden to the already inDebted "Social Security" Budget, but, in Addition, Regularly Abandon several Thousands of Artificially Produced Human Embryos and Babies at the UnControlled Hands of Technocrats, practicaly Away from any Credible Public OverSight, (to the point that they Could be Easily Manipulated in their Genome, withOut Anyone ever Knowing If and What exactly happened, Not even their "Parents 1 and 2" !), with Obvious Risks, Both for them and Humankind, particularly if such Controversial practices Regularly touched upon an enlarging, Key Part of the Population...  

    - But, such a Controversial Demand wasN't really Discussed during the 2017 Electoral Process, and remained quite Obscure, practical UnKnown, at least to Most People...

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    + Most Important, Many things Happened, Meanwhile, which radically Changed the Situation, and Aggravated the Negative, Dangerous aspects for All the Society, of such a Categorial Demand : In particular, since the Autumn of 2018, we all know that Any petty Technocrat can Manipulate the Genome of Human Embryos until Artificial Births of Mutated Beings whose "Changes" would be Automatically Transmitted to all their Future Generations, (See, f.ex.:..., etc).

    => In such New Circumstances, it has Now Become More UnAcceptable than ever to irresponsibly Submit Many Thousands of Embryos, in Each Country, Every Year, to such Artificial Birth Procedures, which put them at the Mercy of various, UnControlled Technocrats, withOut any Guarantee, Neither Means to Prevent, nor even Know if, and what they might Modify, and/or "Test" in those Human Embryos' Genomes...

    The New Risks, by the Emergence of "Gene Editing" and "Heritable Genome Modification" Technologies during the Last Few Years, are so Tremendous, (f.ex., from Provocation of UnKnown yet Health Problems or even Epidemics by Error, to the Fabrication of Man-Animal "Chimeras", or Other Various Monsters, until that of Obvious or Stealth "Races", in a new, Horrible kind of "Appart-Heid", etc), so that the Future of Humanity starts, inevitably, to be at Stake !

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      As for LGBT People themselves, it's a Fact that, independently of anything else, they are Our Brothers and Sisters in Humanity : They are Part of Humankind, and Share its Fate, as All of Us, (i.e. All Human Persons, Straight or LGBT).

   Isn't it Strange that the "Big Pharma"/"Bio-Tech" Lobby, which did Not give a Damn for them, During many Thousands of Years, ...Suddenly, notoriously Funded Obama on 2009 and 2012, (after a 1st Failed Attempt on 2004), and Started to Back "Same Sex Marriage", even Artificially Produced Children served to "LGBT" customers' Demand, (obviously costing a Price), Since When the Human Genome was Deciphered (i.e. After 2000) ?

  In Fact, the First who Risk to Face at least Some among the Negative, or even Horrible, various Consequences of that, are ...the LGBT People themselves, since it's "Their" Children who, in Real Practice, Inevitably risk to serve as ...the First "Guinea Pigs" at Any "Tests", "Trials", and Shady, Irresponsible "Ambitions" of Selfish, Petty Technocrats who Seek to take Control and Power, for the 1st Time in History, over a Growing Number of Unprecedented Artificial Productions of Human Beings, Submitted to the Arbitrariness, or Hypocritical "Good Will" of any eventual New "Dr. Frankenstein", "Dr. Moreau", "Dr. Mengele", or "Dr. He" (that "Socialist"/Liberal US Lobby-Monitored Chinese Technocrat who Manipulated Genetically 3 Embryons, Producing Artificially, 3 Babies with a Modified Genome, Inevitably Transmitted to All Future Generations, on Autumn 2018 : He was Condemned in China to 5 Years of Prison, just 1 Day Before the Deadly Virus' Crisis was Announced : See ...), etc... 

As for the much Wider Dangers potentially Threatening Humanity at large, IF Human Beings are Massively Produced through Artificial Tools controlled by Technocrats, Many conscious Intellectuals have Already Warned and Launched "Hot" Alerts, since a Long Time Ago, including, inter alia, World Famous personalities such as Mary Shelley, H.G.Wells, Zamyatin, Orwell, Aldous Huxley, Spielberg, etc... 

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    >>> So that Important and responsible European Countries such as France, (a fortiori at even at the Highest Level of the State), cannot, and should Not be held "Hostages" of Any selfish Grouplet, (most Probably Manipulated by a Shady Technocratic Lobby),

particularly When, (Even since Before the above mentioned Recent Developments), Already Pre-Existed a ..."Big GAP" Between the People and such Controversial Governemental Proposals, given the Fact that Popular Consultations have clearly Revealed a Strong Opposition from Citizens to Plans for Artificial Births on demand by Lesbians, as even the President of the National BioEthics Committee, Professor Jean-Francois Delfraishy, (currently Chairman of the Anti-Virus Experts Panel), has told "Eurofora", on the occasion of an International BioEthics' Conference at the CoE (See, f.ex., at: ..., etc)...

    => - "Something Must be done, to Address that !", Urged, then, Speaking at the CoE, Professor Delfraissy, making a reference to such Obvious Popular Opposition Against Artificial Births on demand by Lesbians, that "Eurofora" had Also Observed, as a Crystal-clear Phenomenon even at a French National Web Forum specially Dedicated, by the Government, to the Collection of Citizens' reactions on such Topical BioEthical Issues, already since Mid-2018.

    + A fortiori, Nowadays, French President Macron's recently Re-Confirmed Political Wish for a Rapprochment between the Center and the Center-Right, (as the on-going New Government's Reshuffle Confirms), while Advancing Towards the Crucial 2022 Presidential Elections, should, Normaly, Avoid such Uselessly "Divisive" Issues...

    Particularly when he has Just stressed, at his Latest big Speech on a Progressive  DeConfinement from the Virus and the Need to ReVive the Economy, the Priority must be Now into "Uniting", and Not Dividing, the People.

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    Otherwise, Not only it Would be Difficult, if not Impossible, to Conciliate such a Serious and Radical, Structural and Far-Reaching, Social Change with a Formal or informal, Total or Partial, Period of Urgency, (which, according to the ECHR, must be Limited Only into Exceptional, Urgent Measures, and Not at all for Medium-Long Term Structural Reforms),

    ++ But, in Addition, it's obviously Not so "Democratic" at all, to, eventually, Impose such a Controversial, Radical and Far-Reaching Social and Moral Change, When the People (who had Already Started to Largely Demonstrate its Opposition, with 2 Big Demonstrations, since 2019, and More had been Planned in 2020, Before being Blocked by the "Confinement" Measures related to the Virus), is Still Hindered to make Any Public Demonstration Unless it's with ..."LESS than 5.000 Participants", (Even at Open-Air Space), as the French Top Administrative Court, ("Conseil d'Etat"), reportedly judged Nowadays !

    Simply Because, as it's Notorious, the Political Threshhold from which may depend the Outcome was, and stil is, at the Level of an eventually very Massive Popular Demonstration of about 500.000 to 1 Million People, (i.e. as Back on 2013-2014, and Partly 2019), which naturally Requires full Liberty and Time to organize...

    If Not, (according also to the Latest reported relevant Statement attributed to a New, Controversial, Minister), that "Hot" Matter may be, simply, "Postponed" ONLY towards the 2nd Half of July (sic !),...

    i.e., Obviously "Hidden" in the Middle of a Torrid Summer-time, with the Deadly Virus' Crisis still around, When Most People would have Left for the Usual Mass Holidays, and Even Many Public Services would have Closed, including the Government's Members Dispersed at a Country-side, (etc),

    as it was Scandalously and Shamefully Done, Already, Back on 2013, (with a Different Government, Exclusively "Socialist"), when anOther, Exceptionaly Important Reform on BioEthics, (that of Genetic Manipulations on Human Embryos), had been, Suddenly, fixed, (by a Controversial Former Miister, who "Disappeared" Soon Afterwards), Also for the 2nd Half of July, and Even ...at MIDNIGHT !!!

(See: http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/mindightattackonhumanembryoinfrance.html, etc [That Article is an Authentic Events' "Collector's Item", even if in French. But with Stunning FACTS, and a Hard but Superb "MUSE" Song]).

 


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The official presentation of a "Program" respecting People's choices voted in the June 7, 2009 EU Elections, to be debated in EU Council and EU Parliament during its 1st Session on July in Strasbourg, is the No 1 Priority, according to Democratic principles, for the Franco-German axis, said the main winners at the ballot box, French President Nicolas Sarkozy and German Chancellor Angie Merkel.

They stressed  that the New EU Commission's President must have a "Program" in favor of an EU which "protects" its Citizens, regulates financial markets and aims at a "Political" Europe" : a wording they have used as incompatible with Turkey's controversial EU bid.

They also declared ready for a "political" endorsment of "Mr. Barroso's candidacy" in June's EU Council, considering that an official decision would have to be made after EU Parliament's debates and votes, possibly from next month (July), with the legally necessary final acceptance shortly after Lisbon Treaty's entry into force, hoped for September or October.


- "A Program, and Mr. Barroso" : This resumes, in substance, the anouncements made by Sarkozy and Merkel, on the question of current EU Commission's President, Barroso's declared wish to succeed to himself for a second mandate, to be extended during the following 5 years.

 In their 1st meeting after EU Elections, they observed that "the Franco-German axis counted in European Elections' campaign... But, we both keep a realistic view : We saw the number of those who abstained, and we must absolutely give them an answer. We also see the disilusionment of an important number of Europeans vis a vis Europe, and we are aware of the responsibilities we have".

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 - The "Duty" of the new EU Commission's President, after June 7, 2009 EU Elections' result, "is to act for a Europe which protects the Europeans, to commit himself into working for a better Regulation of Financial transactions, ... and to have a Political will for Europe", underlined Sarkozy.

Therefore, "we have asked M. Barroso... to clarify, to officialy present the intentions he has", he anounced.

- "We want to speak also about the Programme", explained Merkel.

- "It's important that for the next EU Parliament's mandate (2009-2014) we take the right Decisions for Europe.  Obviously on Persons, but mainly Decisions on Issues", she stressed.

- "It's not simply a question of a Person, it's also a question of a Programme". We are "really asking Mr. Barroso to commit himself on a Program, and on Principles, on Values", Sarkozy added.

EU President-in-office, Czech Prime Minister Jan Fischer, accepted the Franco-German stance :

- "Barroso must present his Programme. The Czech Presidency agrees with that", Fischer reportedly said later, after meeting Sarkozy.

But Press reports from Brussels claimed that Barroso had preferred to be officially appointed by EU Council since June, (i.e. next week), "because this was implied by the current Treaty of Nice, according to him", and considered any delay until the possible ratification of the new, Lisbon Treaty on September/October, as "undemocratic".

- "At any case, independently of what Germany and France ask, it's also EU Parliament's wish". "We shall propose Mr Barroso's candidacy... But even in the framework of Nice Treaty, EU Parliament has to be associated in this Decision", the French President observed.

If this is correctly done, then "we support Mr. Barroso's candidature", and "if the (EU) Parliament agrees, we might ratify this decision since July", (i.e. next month), they both said.

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- "France and Germany support Baroso's candidacy, But we want to speak also on the Program. We believe that this Program should be established in close cooperation with EU Parliament, and that's why we have followed an appropriate way", said Merkel.  - If EU Parliament wants, this election can take place on July,  but this must be done in full agreement.

- "We shall support Mr. Barroso's candidacy, without doubt", said Sarkozy. "But we have asked from Mr. Barroso, as I told him yesterday, to put into detail.. his intentions, at the eve of his 2nd mandate, if the situation avails itself.


    France and Germany "don't want to take an Official Legal Decision by writting" during "the next (EU) Council" (on June 18-19), declared Sarkozy.  Because they prefer, at this stage, only "a Political decision" on June, "so that we (EU Council) can work together with EU Parliament", which starts to meet only Next Month, since July in Srasbourg, "leaving a Legal decision by writting for later".

    - "If the Conditions are fuillfiled in EU Parliament, we (EU Council) are ready to give the agreement and make it offficial", said Merkel

    - "But, now we are working in the base of Nice Treaty. If tommorow we want to work in the spirit of Lisbon Treaty, we have to find a proper way", she added.

    - "Of course it's Legally complicated, because we are going to make a Political proposal to the forthcoming Council, for an EU Commission's President, on the basis of Nice Treaty : So, we (EU Council) will not appoint the Commissioners. Only the President.  If EU Parliament agrees, it could endorse this position on July", explained Sarkozy.

    But, on Autumn, "if Ireland ratifies Lisbon Treaty, there will be, at any case, a 2nd Decision, to appoint the Commission's President, this time on the basis of Lisbon treaty, and then, we, the EU Member States, would have to appoint (also) the EU Commissioners", he added.

    As for the precise Timing :  - "Everything is suspended until the Irish vote... Now, we must all make everything possible to help Ireland to say "Yes"" to Lisbon Treaty... The Irish Referendum, ..will take place either on September or on October. It's a Question which depends on the Irish. And,  then, we shall have the Choice of the Candidates for the permanent Institutions of Europe".

    However, "if Ireland says No, we, French and Germans, have to assume our responsibilities, and we'll do so", he concluded.

    But British and Swedish governments were reportedly eager to have a final EU Council decision on Barroso since this month, on June's European Council. While the other EU Member Countries are divided, several of them preferring to wait until EU Parliament pronounces itself, on July, and/or until Lisbon Treaty might be ratified by Ireland at the beginning of the Autumn. Barroso's current mandate ends on November.

    There are also various, contradictory and/or unpredictable reactions inside EU Parliament vis a vis Barroso's wish to continue a 2nd mandate, because many MEPs are openly or secretly opposed, reluctant, or hesitating.

    In the biggest EU Countries, as France and Germany, EU Citizens voted on June 2009 EU Elections for a renovated, non-technocratic but Political Europe which cares for its Citizens, with an Identity, Values and Borders, declared incompatible with Turkey's controversial EU bid, by mainstream, pro-European Governing Parties. Similar choices were also supported in several other small or medium EU Countries.

    On the contrary, whenever, in other Countries, Governing and other mainstream Parties didn't make these choices or eluded them, EU Citizens massively voted for euro-Sceptics whenever they were the only ones to to promise anti-bureacratic change and oppose Turkey's demand to enter into the EU, (f.ex. in the UK, Netherlands, etc).

    It's seems to be an Open Question whether Sarkozy and Merkel's conditions will be really accepted by Barroso, who was appointed on 2004 in a different political context, (with Socialist Prime Ministers in Germany, France, etc), had rejected in the Past the idea of EU becoming "equal to the USA" as "ridiculous", and pushed for Turkey's contoversial EU bid, trying to "soften" or contain the changes desired by the People who voted for Merkel and Sarkozy with another policy vis a vis Turkey on 2005 in Germany and on 2007 in France, as they did all over Europe on 2009.

    In addition to many EPP Governments, it's 3 remaining Socialist Prime Ministers : Gordon Brown in the UK, Zapatero in Spain, and Socrates in Prortugal, who support Barroso, as well as Liberal Swedish Prime Minister Reinfeldt. But their Parties lost the June 2009 EU Elections.

    Questioned whether there was still "Time" for "other" possible "Candidates", Sarkozy and Merkel did not deny, nor made any comment on that, but simply said that "it's not for us to make publicity for any candidates. We anounced our choice ("A Program, and Mr. Barroso"). But we respect any other candidate".

    Among various other names cited are former Belgian Prime Minister Verhofstadt, former UNO's Human Rights Commissioner Mary Robinson of Ireland, Italian former EU Commission's vice-President Monti, etc. Meanwhile, Luxembourg's PM Juncker, (who had been unanimously accepted by EU Council for EU Commission's Presidency on 2004, but refused), announced his intention to resign from "EuroGroup"'s Chair. Thus, he might be available for another Top EU job.

    As "EuroFora"'s "opinion" said (See publication dated 9/6/09) : - "If the current candidates (i.e. Barroso, etc) to the Top EU jobs promise and guarantee to respect People's democratic choices, then, it's OK".

"Otherwise, Europe must find new candidates, really motivated and able to implement these democratic choices of the People."

    Because, "in Democracy, the forthcoming choices for EU's Top Jobs,...should be made according to EU Citizens' Votes in June 7, 2009 European Elections, and main EU Governments' strategic policies".
        

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