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EU Senior Officers to EF: UnKnown if Pfizer Turkish Vaccine Stops or Spreads Virus to other People..

Written by ACM
Wednesday, 09 December 2020

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*Strasbourg/Angelo Marcopolo/- Speaking to "Eurofora" at the Eve of a Crucial EU Summit in Brussels starting by Topical COVID-19 various Vaccines' forthcoming Authorisations, Key Senior Officials Both revealed that it's yet a Mystery, among Decision-Makers, if ...Fischy "Pfizer"'s Turkish Vaccine, (which Struggles to be "the 1st" among Many to Apply to US and EU Authorities for an Urgent "Green Light" Nowadays), might, eventually, Risk to be Unable to Stop the Deadly Virus' Spread to Other People, or Not, and What should be done, in that case...

+This New Risk is Added to Various Other Risks already reported for this Controversial attempt, (See Infra).

Indeed, in Addition to its Obviously Too "Heavy" Disadvantage to Necessitate a minor -70 Celcium Degrees Cold Temperature in order to be usable, (an Excessively Cumbersome Practical Requirement in all Transport and Storage activities, where it's the Only Vaccine which becomes Obsolet just After just ...a Few Minutes withOut Sufficient Ice chops in Special Boxes : a Logistics' Nightmare, as "CNN" reported), that Kind of New Technology Vaccine, (Similar to that of USA's "Moderna" on that point), might Also present Other New Risks, UnKnown yet to any Classical Technology Vaccines of the Past :

-  According to a USA Mainstream Newspaper "Los Angeles Times" article, Confirmed also by Other Medias, (as, f.ex., UK's "Guardian", USA's "AP" Agency, etc), Even if the Recipient might, Hopefuly, more or less Cease to have Symptoms of that Virus, on the Contrary, it's Not at all Sure that he might, Also, Stop Infecting Other People ! That kind of "New Risk", UnKnown in Classical Vaccines,  seems Really Possible, Due to the UnExplored Yet, Various Consequences of that Particular New Technology, Chosen by this Vaccine (and, Also, USA's "Moderna"), which is the Only one to be thoroughly Based on Gene Manipulation Tools, (Often notoriously Dangerous even for Eventual Cancer-related Side-Effects, as long as a proper Solution allowing to Avoid them is not found), Expected to Trigger a Protein Spoting the Virus inside the Recipient's Body, but Ignoring, until now, What Might Happen Afterwards, concerning the Threats of Infections vis a vis All Other People.

=> Such a Risk may, in Fact, Become Obviously very Dangerous, since, inter alia, it's Not Clear Whether and How, all those Individuals who would get that Controversial Vaccine and eventualy Cease to have Symptoms, But withOut Excluding Transmission to Many Other People, Could (or Not) be Afterwards Recognized and/or Quarantined (Both Practicaly and Legaly, as well as from their own Acceptability point of view), in order to Prevent an (Otherwise Inevitable) Spread among Numerous Other People, soon Affecting all or most of the Society !  + A Fortiori when Many Potential innocent Victims might, Even, be Lured, by False Appearances of allegedly "Cured", Asymptomatic Individuals, who would have Got that "Vaccine", and Fall to a Trap by close Contacts with "Super-Spreaders" of rapidly Growing Deadly Infections...

    - Surprizingly, However, "Eurofora" Found, Today, that EU's important Senior Officials, Both at EU Council and Commission (competent for Health Policy), ...had Not been Informed at all, and, therefore, Ignored entirely that Obviously  Dangerous New Problem about "Pfizer"'s Turkish Controversial Vaccine, Even at the Eve of a Crucial EU Summit this Week, and subsequent EU Commission Decisions on Authorizing, or Not, under certain Conditions, such Vaccines, Before the End of December 2020, (See Infra) !

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>>>  This Unexpected Fact appears so more Worrying, that a Similar Phenomenon to what "Eurofora" Described Above, seems to have been Provoked Recently in China, according to the semi-Official Press Agency "Xinhua", when, suddenly, at a Border-line Region, Many Dozens of Individuals Coming and Going from Neighbouring Countries appeared withOut Any Symptoms, But ...Full of Deadly Virus, which Rapidly Started to Infect all the Chinese People, to the point that the Pubic Authorities were Obliged to put into Quarantine a Population of Many Thousands, and impose Urgent "Tests" to More than a Million of People living there, (as they had Succesfuly done, notoriously, at Wuhan's former Epicenter of the Virus, etc), [+See Also Infra].

    + Moreover, that Controversial Vaccine promoters seem to be Not sufficiently Trustworthly, inter alia, particularly when they Suddenly Claimed that the alleged Efficiency of their product would have been "Proved" to be Higher than their Initial Estimations of 90%, Reaching 95%, just ... 1 Day After their Russian and other American Competitors of "Sputnik 2" and "Moderna" Vaccines had Announced that they had Bypassed "Pfizer"'s Turkish Vaccine's Results, with 92% and 95% respectively...

    ++ In Addition, a "Pfizer"'s Official had reportedly Claimed that they did Not get Any USA Government's Financial Aid, while, in Fact, they had Signed a 1,85 Billions $ Contract with the Trump Administration's "Warp Speed" Program already since July 2020...

    +++ But, "Pfizer" Suddenly Delayed the Announcement of its Trials' Results, Initialy Scheduled for the End of October, i.e. Before the US Presidential Elections of November 3, until Much Later, towards the Middle of November, thus Practicaly Hidding to the American People, When they Voted, the Fact that President Trump's Administration had Succeeded to Boost a 1st Vaccine against the Virus, Until it was Too Late in order to take into account that Result during the Crucial Political Vote... They reportedly went, even, so Far as to First Announce that to ...Biden's Team, a whole Day Before Trump's team, at the White House, was Informed about that ...only By reading the Next Day's Newspapers ! An obviously Sly Manouver, which was Strongly Denounced by the US President as immoral politician Dirty Games, probably because a Part of "Big Pharma" was Upset for his Efforts to Reduce the (Exceptionaly High) Prices of Medical Drugs in the USA, (but, in Fact, apparently Motivated by even more Shady socio-Political Complicities : See Infra).

    ++++ At any case, that "Pfizer"s Controversial Turkish Vaccine reportedly Proved to have, Also, Various Negative "Side-Effects", included, among others, to have to be "Excluded" for People sensitive to "Allergies", (as the UK competent Authorities have Just Announced these Days), in addition to "Pregnant" Women, (who were, apparently, Not Included in its Trials), etc., while Even presenting "Worse" Effects than "Pneumonia" or "Flu" Vaccines, (which include "Sore Arms", "Muscle Pains and Fatigue", added to IntraVenous "Shots causing Injection-site Pain, Aches and Fever", etc), Repeated  anew in a "2nd Dose", taken some Weeks Later, with a "Second Round" of "Symptoms" which "could be Tough" and "Hurt", according to Experts (even working in that Company) citted by Mainstream Press.

    +++++ In Fact, that Controversial "Pfizer"'s Turkish Vaccine's promoters seem to have Played Games with Mass Medias' Publicity "Effects", immediately Exploited by Stock Markets' Sharp Movements, which, inter alia, Gave to them Dozens of Billions $ (See Infra) withOut doing Anything else, and Such Aims might, also, Explain the Company's obvious Rush to get a FDA Authorisation in the USA as Early as, already, since around December 10, even withOut having presented Any Serious, Neither Complete Scientific Report on its product...

    Indeed, they really appear also Anxious to Prevent being Shortly Bypassed by Other, much More Efficient, Safe and Cheaper, Less Cumbersome (Comp. Supra) and Less Controversial Vaccines, build by several Competitors, from the USA, EU, or Russia, China, etc., which are reportedly Forthcoming, sooner or later, on 2020-2021, (including, particularly, Not UnCertain and Risky Genetic Manipulations-Based products, built Following Classic Natural Methods of Vaccine-Making, etc). + At the Same Time, eventual Complicities of Interests canNot be Excluded, a priori, with some Actors who Surprisingly Hinder certan apparently Useful re-purposed Drugs, (sometimes Even Oppress : Comp. f.ex. the Scandals recently Revealed against "HCQ+", etc), and/or Delay any New Inventions on Virus' Prophylaxy and/or Therapy, which are Paradoxically almost Ignored or Under-Estimated, Nowadays, in EU and Others' Deliberations, (See, f.ex. : ... + ..., etc), Despite the Fact that they Might be, on the Contrary, very Useful, in real Practice, by Helping People to Wait Until some Really Efficient, Safe and Accesible Vaccines arrive...

    While Controversial "Pfizer"'s Turkish Vaccine's Apparent "Advance" in Time Deadlines, (in Fact, Already ByPassed by Russian "Sputnik" and Chinese "Sinovac", etc), seems, in Fact, Due Not to Any alleged Scientific "Efficiency" at all, But Only to the Strange Fact that They had Curiously Started to Focus on a "COVID-19" Vaccine AbNormaly Early, Long Before Anybody Else, (already Since ...Mid-January 2020 !), When practicaly Nobody thought about any Eventual Risk of Pandemic, (Not Even in China !), as we shall See, Perhaps moved by some Shady Factors, Not yet Elucidated, as several Converging Facts indicate, (See Infra)..., Long Before any other Competitor...     

    => In such Circumstances, it's Obviously a Surprizing Fact to find that Even Experienced and Generally Well-Informed Senior EU Officers Acknowledge that they Have Not Yet been Informed about, at least, one of the Most Important potential "New Risks" that this Controversial, UnFamiliar yet Technology, "Pfizer"s Turkish Vaccine might, eventualy, have against Public Health (Comp. Supra), Not even at the Eve of Crucial Decisions due to be taken by EU Heads of State/Government, and/or EU Commission, as well as USA's "Food and Drug Administration", in the Following Days, so that they Might be also, Practicaly, Hindered to, at least, Raise the most Pertinent and Urgent, Serious Questions to competent Experts on Time !     

    >>> But, at the Same Time, once Alerted by "Eurofora"s Questions, Today, they Clearly Conclude by Indicating that, indeed, such "Hot" New Issues Should be Raised, Warning the Competent Authorities, (and, mainly, EU's Medical Agency), the Soonest possible, as Crucial Decisions Evolve, precisely, These Days :

    - Indeed, f.ex., a Top EU Council Official, speaking on Condition of Anonymity, Questioned by "Eurofora" about the above-mentioned Facts and Interrogations concerning, Mainly, Controversial "Pfizer"'s Turkish Vaccine's possible Incapacity to Stop the Spreading of the Virus to Many Other People, by the Individuals who might have Eliminated any visible Symptoms After 2 Intraveinous Shots in two Months, (since, Curiously, this Problem had Not been Included in that Company's Tests and Trials, reportedly, until now),

    Replied, inter alia, with a very Careful and Reserved way, while Also Indicating that Crucial Decisions Evolve, at EU Level, particularly in its European Medical Agency, Until before the End of this Year :     

    - "Of course", there are, Nowadays, such "Huge and Incredible Challenges" about certain Vaccines, and EU's Decision-Making "is Still Going On", with an "Added Value on Health", through Recently Started "Coordination with Member States", via "EMA", "until the End of 2020", that Top EU Council's Senior Officer Replied, in Substance, to the Above mentioned "Eurofora"s Question.

    + In Addition, EU Commission's competent Spokesman on Public Health, Stefan de Keersmaecker, in an Exclusive dialogue with "Eurofora" on that Same Issue, Acknowledged that there are Key "Scientific Issues" which, Indeed, "Should be Checked by EMA", and "Only Then" (i.e. After adequate Scietific Conclusions), such Vaccines "be Allowed, or Not, to the Markets". Otherwise, there is, in Real Practice, a Risk, particularly "if EMA Ommitted to do so", for "EU Commission" to "Not Know realy about it", he agreed. Even if "EMA will Continue to Monitor 24/7" such Vaccines, also After an eventual "Conditional Authorisation" to put them "in the Market", and can "Quickly Detect Issues, whenever they arrive", so that it "Can Still Stop Everything", If Necessary, at any moment, nevertheless, given the Obvious Risks in such Matters, "If EU Commission Believes that an (Official) Assessment" might, eventualy be "Not Complete", "then, We Certainly Ask Questions" about such Serious Matters "We have Heard" of, he Vowed. But, considering the Fact that a relevant EMA Move may arise at Any Moment, from Now, "Until December 29, at the Latest", given the Obvious Importance for the competent EU Authorities to be Timely Warned, in order to have a Real Chance to Find adequate Solutions, he Concluded by Urging whoever "Believe that there is such an Issue", as "Eurofora" observed on the Controversial "Pfizer'"s Turkish Vaccine, (Comp. Supra), to "Not Hesitate to Check with" EMA asap, "Inviting... to Contact them" on "How" to "Manage it", (See, for More Details Infra).

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    + In particular, that Top EU Council's Senior Official, Replying "of the record" to "Eurofora"s above metioned "Question on Vaccines" against the Deadly Virus, at the Eve of EU Heads of State/Government's Summit which Starts Tomorrow in Brussels (10-11/12/2020), initialy noted, Carefuly, that "my Competence, I'm  afraid, is a bit Limited, on Exactly Which are the Best Vaccines", as he Modestly Warned. -"What I Know is that the EU has Recently Coordinated with Member States, in order to Make Sure that We Can Provide All (EU) Citizens with (good enough) Vaccines".

- However, "Of Course, there are, You ("Eurofora") can imagine, Huge and Incredible Challenges", f.ex.; "for Deployment and to Ensure that the People have Vaccines at the Same Time".

+ But, "at the Same Time, (EU) Member States have been Required to provide a National Vaccine Strategy, so that this is Still Going on".

- "I'm afraid I Can't answer Which Vaccine is Better than other", and "it's Not up to Me to Give you an Answer to that". But "What I Can say is that the Coordination with the EU has an Added Value on Health, which is to Cordinate with Member States and on what competent National Authorites will be doing, up to the End of this Year", particularly through "the European Medicine Agency (EMA)", he Concluded, Pointng at the December 29 Time Deadline for Expected EU Decisions on the Pandemic Virus' Vaccines.

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    ++ As for EU Commission's competent Spokesman on Public Health, Stefan de Keersmaecker, Initialy, he appeared so Careful with that Issue raised by "Eurofora"s Question, that he spontaneously announced his Intentio to, eventualy, "Look also with the Collegues, if I Need some (Technical) Support on it".  

    - "Eurofora" Warned from the outset that, in Fact, "it's a Practicaly Urgent Question", to Find out "Whether the EU Commission is Aware of this Problem, of a New Kind of Risk for the Virus to Spread, which may be More Dangerous, Because, in that case, the Virus is Not easily Visible, Not Easy to Guess" in order to take the Necessary Protective Measures. "And", in that case, "if the have managed to Find, already, a Solution, Or have, at least Asked the Company to Make the Necessary Tests in order to be Sure that there is not any such Danger of such kind of somehow Hidden or covert Spread" in the foreseable Future.

    => -"Normaly, all Those Scientific Issues (evoked by "Eurofora" about "Pfizer's" Turkish Vaccine) Should be Researched by EMA" (the EU's Medical Agency), EU Commission's Health Spokesman admitted. F.ex., "It's up to them to Check" f.ex. "the Efficiency of the Vaccine, What Side Effects it might have, What Might be the Quality of it, How Safe it is, How do Healthy and/or Sick Peuple React", etc. "All these things Should be Checked by EMA", which is an "Independent" Organisation of Scientific Experts. Not the EU Comission" itself, he clarified. +"And"' it's Only "Then", that "We, as EU Commission, we Shall Look, on That (Completed) Basis, Whether it" (the Vaccine) "Should be Allowed, or Not, to the Markets".

    >>> Therefore, "If EMA Ommited to do so", f.ex. in that Specific Issue, then, "We (EU Commission) would Not Know" realy about it, since "We doN't have the Scientific Capacities" for such kind of matters, he Warned, Replying to another relevant Question by "Eurofora". + But, "If something is Not Clear, or We (EU Comission) doN't Understand, We Shall Ask, of course", EMA to Check it, he Vowed.

    + In Addition, "EMA Always Continues to Follow up : It's Not because EMA said (once) <<You can Go Ahead>> that Everything Stops..." On the Contrary, "EMA Continues ! Particularly, when it comes to This Vaccine, ("Pfizer's"), EMA Will Give, Normaly, what's called the Green Lights for <<Conditional>>  Market Operations", i.e. "it Will Continue to Evaluate", "to Follow Critical Tests", "to Monitor What Happens to People who Take that Vaccine. So, "this Work will Never Stop for EMA. It Continues. And, (f.ex.), IF, 2-3 Months Ahead, EMA Sees that there is a Problem, which it had Not Detected Before, then, If it's Necessary, they Can Still Stop Everything !". "EMA is Monitorig this 24 Hours during 7 Days, So that, Whenever Something Happens, they have a System of Alert, in All (EU) Member States' Medical Agencies", which is "a Very Thorough System". that "Allows them to, very Quickly, Detect Issues, Whenever these Issues Arise", thus "Offering a Good Level of Certainty and Security". "Particularly when it comes to such <<Conditional>> Market Operations, EMA Always Asks Companies to Continue to Submit Information, f.ex. on such Vaccines, so that the Evaluation Continues, and, at Any Time, EMA Can Decide, or say that, On the Base of New Elements, We (EU) Change our (Initialy) Positive Opinion, and, Now, We canNot give a Positive Opinion, Anymore ! It Can do it at Any Time", he Warned.

    >>> However, (given also the Obvious Importance of Saving Human Lives and/or Public Health, Before something Negative might happen), Already, "If We (EU Commission) Believe that EMA's Assessment is Not Complete, or we doN't Understand", (f.ex. on This "New Issue" Raised by the Controversial "Pfizer'"s Turkish Vaccine's particular Technology : Comp. Supra), "Then, We Certainly Ask Questions : That's for Sure !" Indeed, "If We Believe that they Evaded an Issue, then, We Can always Ask : <<EMA, We've Heard (f.ex. by "Eurofora", etc) about This and This (Matter). What Do you Think ?>> , the EU Commission's Health Spokesman Vowed, in Reply to "Eurofora"s above mentioned Question, (Comp. Supra).

    - "Exactly, That's the Point ! Particularly in this kind of <<New Questions>>, (due to Not Tested Yet, in some Key Issues, Novel Technologies) to Incite them to Give, as Soon as possible, a Serious Scientific Answer, Because, Otherwise, the Obvious Risk would be to Blow Up, to let Explode Massive Infections", Agreed here "Eurofora", Pointing at a Recent concrete Example in China, of an apparently Similar Issue, (of a Sudden Appearance of Many Asymptomatic Individuals, coming to an Uinghur-inhabited Region from Pakistan, and Risking to Spread the Deadly Virus, so that the Chinese Authorities were Obliged to Urgently Impose a Large Collective Quarantine with more than a Million of Tests, immediately : Comp. Supra and Infra).

    >>> However, Given the Fact that, Currently, EU has set Only a Time Deadline for relevant Decisions on such Vaccines "at the Latest, by 29 December", But withOut Knowing yet at What Date this Might, Eventualy, be Decided, more or less, ..."Earlier", (as the EU Health Spokesman Acknowledged to "Eurofora"), Obviously, "in This Kind of UnKnown Yet (New) Issue, withOut Any Precedent in the Past, (Com. Supra), the Right thing is to Do Something Before", in order to Ensure that the Competent Authorities were Timely Warned, and had a Chance to Find a Solution Before, eventualy, it might Affect Human Lives and/or Public Health. Isn't it ?", "Eurofora" wondered.

-    => -"That's Why, IF" some "Believe that there is such an Issue", (as "Eurofora" Described about that Controversial "Pfizer'"s Turkish Vaccine : Comp. Supra), "then, I Invite" them "to Contact EMA !" People "should Not Hesitate to Check With Them, and have Comments on How They are Managing it", EU Commission's Public Health Spokesman, Concluding, Urged.

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>>>  But the Unexpected Risk for EU Deciders to have Not been Yet Adequately Warned on such Crucial Issues, appears so more Worrying, that a Similar Phenomenon to what "Eurofora" Described Above, seems to have been Provoked Recently in China, according to the semi-Official Press Agency "Xinhua", when, suddenly, at an Uighur (Turcic tribe) Populated Region, (Hit by Separatist Extremists), Many Dozens of Individuals Coming and Going from Neighbouring Pakistan, appeared withOut Any Symptoms, But ...Full of Deadly Virus, which Rapidly Started to Infect all the Chinese People, to the point that the Pubic Authorities were Obliged to put into Quarantine a Population of Many Thousands, and impose Urgent "Tests" to More than a Million of People living at this Border-line Region, (as they had Succesfuly done, notoriously, at Wuhan's former Epicenter of the Virus, etc). It's also a Fact that Islamist Extremists (mainly of the "Tablighi Jamaat" Group) have been Notoriously Blamed to Spread the Virus inside India, (which had initialy managed to Avoid it, for long), after Mass Meetings at Lahora and New Delhi, from Malaysia, etc., from April 2020. By a Coincidence, a Key Technician exploiting that Controversial "Pfizer"'s Turkish Vaccine is personaly Named ..."Ugur (Comp. Supra) Sahin", and personaly comes from Turkey, as also his wife, (born at Iskinderum, former Alexandrette Seaport, from which Ancient Greek King "Alexander the Great" entered into Asia, reaching up to India and China's "Silk Road", where Turkish Military Invaded the City, Expelling mainly Armenian Refugees on 1938, Seizing their Homes and Land, normaly Belonging to Syria, according also to UNO's Mandate entrusted to France, Near the Peaceful "Afrin" Kurdish Region of Syria which was Invaded and Occupied by Turkey on 2018, Facing "Idlib" Syrian Region, where All Remaining Extremist Islamist Armed Gangs have been Notoriously Gathered between 2012-2020, right in Front of the Village where the Chief of  ISIS' Deadly Islamist Terrorists, cowardly Targetting Civilian People, "El Bagdadi", was Found Hidding, by USA Troops on 2019)...

    + Meanwhile, according to "Bloomberg" mainstream USA News Agency, "Pfizer" did Not Fund itself at all that Controversial Vaccine, since it's Only a Turkish couple, by Their own BioTech SME, established at Nearby Germany's Mainz City, who Set up and, Already Started to Exploit (Both Financialy and with an Exceptionaly Big Medias' Publicity, including even "New York Times"' publicatios with their lavish Personal Portraits, like ..."Rock Stars" etc) such a Project, Curiously Started so Early as, Since the Middle of ...January 2020, (i.e. When Not even ...China's Public Health National Commission did Not Yet Speak about the Virus : something which Started Only After the 21/1/2020 Late Afternoon, all out of  Sudden, with a President Xi's Urgent Call, Bellying a Bureaucratic "Experts" earlier Claims that this Virus was due to "Disappear" Soon, as SARNS-1 had done in the Past, as "Eurofora" found : See ..., etc). It's Not Clear How they had been Informed, si Early, of the Virus' "Pandemic" potential Spread throughout the World, (which was Officialy Declared by the WHO only as Late as since Mid-End March 2020), But it's a Surprizing Fact that they Immediately Sold a Previous SME that they had, (on Cancer BioTech), in order to Invest to that Controversial Vaccine Project, Starting Trials Already as Early as Since ...mid-January (sic !), i.e. Just After having, Earlier, received a Controversial and UnPopular pro-Global Vaccine Bill Gates' Billionaire's Award on 2019, and Soon Becoming themselves "Billionaires", (withOut doing Nothing !), by snatching a Dozen of Billions $ at USA's Stock Markets, thanks to an Astonishing Big Publicity at Establishment's Media (Comp. Supra), Inaccurately Presenting them as if they were the ..."1st and Only in the World" to have produced an allegedly "Efficient" Vaccine against the Virus....

    - The Only thing that USA's "Pfizer" did in this Project, (in Fact, initialy Funded Only by Local sources, thanks to the RINO German Minister of Health, Mr. Spahn, a "Married" Homosexual), was to Boost that Exceptionaly Big Publicity for the Controversial Turkish Vaccine, thanks Also to Links between its Greek-Origin CEO Mr. Bourlas with One among the Members of Greek Multi-Millionaires Vardinogiani's big Famly, Personaly Linked with "PASOK"s "Socialist" Party, and known for having reportedly "Escaped" from the former Nationalist Colonels' Regime, Not by Leaving for Democratic Countries as Sweden, France, Germany or the UK, as Most Other, real Political Dissidents did, (Including, even the Young then King Constatinos, the Leftist Musician Theodorakis, etc), But, on the Contrary, by going to ...the notoriously Oppressive Turkey (sic !). "Pfizer"'s Bourlas was Also, Recently, Photographed as Recipient of a Medal awarded by Controversial US "Socialist/Liberal" Ambassador Pyatt, later in Greece, but Famous for his Too much "Activist" Role in the Tragic Drama of Ukraine, Together with former "Socialist/Liberal" US Assistant Secretary of State for Europe and Asia, Miss Nulland, Notorious for her Unforgetable ... "Fuck the EU !" (sic !), Moto, in a Leaked Phone Conversation with Pyatt, Back on 2014, when she agreed with him to use an Offer to Intervene by then Vice-President Biden, (Now Candidate to US Presidential Election 2020), of the equaly "Socialist/Liberal" Barack Hussein Obama's Former Administration, resulting into a Bloody Conflict aroud Maidan Square, Provoked by some Mysterious "Snipers", Curiously Killing Both Demonstrators and Policemen, which Brutaly Toppled the EU-sposored Peace Agreements, just Signed, under the auspices of the French, German and Poliish Foreign Ministers, by All Dissidents' Leaders and President Janukovic, for Amnesty, National Unity Governmnt, and New Presidential Elections before the End of the Year, Throwing the Country into a Bloody Civil War, between Kiev and Donetsk-Luhansk Eastern pro-Autonomy Russian-Speaking Regions, Killing Many Civilian People, (including Even Burning Alive Peaceful pro-Russia Demonstrators Attacked by Clubs, Revolvers, "Molotov" Bombs, etc, in Odessa), added to the ReUnification of Crimea peninsula with mainland Russia after a Popular Referendum, a Heavily inDebted Ukraine, rampant Corruption, and Blockade of the Coutry's Previous Prospects to Enter the EU - But Also of Mr Biden's Son's (a Drug Addict, Fired by US Army) appointment into an Oil/Gas Ukranian Company, which Paid him Hundreds of Thousands $, withOut Any Experience on Energy Issues, provoking a Scandal during these Latest US Presidential Elections of 2020...        -----------------------------------

    => Such Geo-Political and/or Socio-Political, added to Financial a.o. irrelevant Agendas, Obviously Pursued by those in charge of that Controversial "Pfizer''s Turkish Vaccine, obviously Hampered by an awful Lot of UnPrecedented and UnCertain Issues and Problems, all the wat from Practical to Public Health Exceptional Risks (Comp. Supra), certainly do Not Indicate at all that Their Main Aim Might, perhaps, have been to Save Human Lives, But rather something Else...     

    So that, inter alia, it's also expected, from the Obviouly Money-Hungry and/or Politicaly Motivated promoteurs of such an apparently Risky and hasty "Vaccine", as that of Controversial "Pfizer"s Turkish Commercial Product, thet, in Fact, they woN't even give a Damn, not even for the Latest Atrocity revealed by 4 innocent Victims of its "Tests", who all Lost the use of their Muscles at a Side of the Face, resulting into Horrible Cadaver-like Looks, as many Medias have just Pictured Today accross the World,

among the Various other Negative Side-Effects, Big Logistical Problems, and, Most of all, a Still Pending Issue of Huge Dangers for Massive Infections, Difficult to Prevent, by Virus Eventualy Spread by totaly Asymptomatic Zombies, perhaps themselves "Cured", But Still, possibly, able to Infect all Other People, (Comp. Supra).  

 

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    - "It's impossible  to achieve goals of Peace, if Human Rights are left out. In fact, Peace and Human Rights are intrinsequaly linked", added POETTERING.

    It's in this spirit that MEPs adopted, on Thursday, a Resolution denouncing that "the criminal
investigation and trial following the murder of (a) Journalist ...raises serious concerns with regard to transparency and respect for the rule of law", when a "brutal killing has not yet been fully investigated and solved in a satisfactory way".

    The text refered to dissident Journalist "Anna POLITOVSKAYA", a critic of Tchechen conflict, killed some years ago in Moscow, where Russian Authorities have found, arrested and are currently judging two executants, while also searching to arrest also a 3rd one, allegedly escaped in Belgium. But they have not yet found the instigators.

     Similar texts were adopted recently also on dissident Ukranian Journalist Georgiy GONGADZE's murder, for which Ukranian Authorities have at least found, arrested and condemned 2 executants to 12 and 13 Years of jail, but not yet the instigators. For that purpose, they recently accepted an International Experts team to participate to the investigations.     

But, it's only for the Murder of dissident Turkish Cypriot Journalist ADALI, in the occupied territories of Cyprus, that Turkey has NOT yet found ANYONE responsible, and even claimed recently inside CoE that it would be "impossible" to do so !    

These astonishing differences exist despite the fact that ECHR condemned alike Ukraine and Turkey with 2 Judgements on the same year : 2005, for the murders of  Journalists GONGADZE and ADALI, strong critics of Corruption in Ukraine, and of Ankara's policies on mass-influx of Turkish Settlers in the Occupied Territories of Cyprus, respectively.    

Regarless of that, CoE's Committee of Ministers, who is entrusted with the duty to supervise execution of ECHR's judgements, has just asked Ukraine's Government to reply to further questions on Gongadze's murder before March 2009, while Turkey, curiously, got a longer postponement for answering questions on Adali's murder, until June...   

A comparison of these cases, raises serious questions about Double Standards :

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On TRANSPARENCY :
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    On Gongadze's murder, CoE's body speaks even about the participation of
"an INTERNATIONAL group of Experts" in the Investigation, (f.ex. of "Tape Recordings"), accepted by Ukraine.
    On the contrary, on Adali's murder, CoE is obliged to repeatedly ask (for a 2nd
time) Turkey whether, at least, it informed the victims' Family, or not...
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- On EFFICIENCY :
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On Gongadze's murder, CoE formally "recalls that the Committee (of Ministers) ..URGED the Ukranian authorities.. to TAKE ALL NECESSARY INVESTIGATIVE STEPS TO ACHIEVE CONCRETE and VISIBLE RESULTS in the INVESTIGATION, aimed at the Identification of the INSTIGATORS and Organisers of the Murder", and "STRONGLY INVITED the Ukranian Authorities to provide information on the PROGRESS IN THE INVESTIGATION", before MARCH 2009.

But, on Adali's murder, on the contrary, CoE's body merely .. "took note" of the "arguments presented by" Cyprus, which denounce the absence of any proof of new "investigation" by Turkey. Following Turkey's own suggestion (!), it simply "noted" that there is "no limitation period" for "any new element" to "lead potentialy (sic !) to a Re-Opening of the Investigation". Without saying who might find any such "new" fact, since Turkey stoped searching... It also POSTPONED the issue until .. JUNE  !
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 - On the PUNISHMENT OF THOSE RESPONSIBLE :
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 -  On Gongadze's murder case, Ukranian Authorities already arrested and condemned, at least 2 suspects, to 12 and 13 Years of jail. And on Politkovskaya's murder at least 2 suspects are judged, and a 3rd one "wanted".

On the contrary, on Adali's murder case, the Turkish authorities simply claim that "it had not been possible to obtain new .. information .. on the basis of which criminal charges could be brought against ANY person" !...

Moreover,  a LETTER sent by Turkey ...2 Years after CoE's 2006 call to re-investigate anew Adali's murder case, is totally EMPTY of Facts ! As Cypus' Delegation denounced earlier, Turkey's Letter ONLY CLAIMS that a "New Investigation" was made without any result, but does NOT even cite ANY FACT to prove it :

F.ex.,on the crucial issue of the "MOTIVATIONS" behind Adali's murder, noted by ECHR, Turkey MERELY CLAIMS that "all allegations  were investigated; without result", but OMITS ANY FACT TO PROVE IT !..(It doesn't even remind which were these "allegations").. .

+ On ECHR's astonishment that the Turkish Occupation regime didn't produce any "BALLISTIC REPORT" on the Shots which murdered Adali, Turkey again repeats, 12 years later, that, still, even until now, "it  was not possible to obtain the BalisticReport"...

- As for the astonishing absence of key-WITNESSES' Testimonies, denounced by ECHR, Turkey agains repeats various pretexts avoiding to reveal anything, (Fex. that a person "left" the Occupied Territories  "on 2002", or that another witness was heard, but without revealing nothing of what he said, etc).

Turkey obviously "FAILS TO MEET THE CRITICISM made BY THE COURT" for lack of any efficient Investigation in Adali's case, concluded Cyprus' Government.
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Replying to our Question which COMPARED these 3 outstanding cases of "JOURNALISTS MURDERS", Adali, Gongadze and Politkovskaya, in order to avoid "Double Standards" by asking from Ukraine and Russia more than what is asked EU candidate Turkey, many European personalities were critical /

They criticised Ankara's recent claim at the CoE to stop investigating, because it would be "impossible to find anyone" responsible for the 5 bullet shots which killed Kutlu ADALI in front of his Family Home, contrary to the other two Journalists' murders, where Ukraine and Russia at least arrested the executants, searching now for the instigators :
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    - "Where was that ? In Turkish Occupied Cyprus ? WITHOUT ANY DOUBT : Any murder of Journalist should be investigated in full ! All these Murders must be investigated !", replied the famous SAKHAROV's wife, Elena BONNER to our question on Adali's case, compared to Gongadze and Politofskaya.

    Elena Bonner spoke us EXCLUSIVELY shortly after being honored by the President
of EU Parliament on the occasion of 20 Years of her husband's SAKHAROV Prize.

    A strong personality, Sakharov's wife even had to struggle against an anonymous EU staffer who, astonishingly, tried to stop her speaking when h heard our question on "Turkey" (!) : - "Please, let me translate, she continues
speaking, don't stop us !", had to cry Sakharov's daughter, (a Journalist
herself), who was translating her mothers' reply, (obliged to speak louder to
make her voice heard despite the harassment).. (= + Audio Proof !)

    Earlier, Elena Bonner also fustigated "Double Standards" at another case, on
Western countries' attitude vis a vis Kosovo and the Kurds : -F.ex. "You have
recognized a few 400.000 Kosovars as an "independent" country, but you still
deny that to 30 millions of Kurds in Turkey !", she denounced.
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    - "This (ADALI's murder) is an issue which should be pursued by the Committee
for Human Rights. That's why we have one, and it's its duty to examine cases of
Journalists' murders as the one you referred to. You should bring the case in
front of that Committee", suggested in reply to our question on Adali, EU
Parliament's President, German MEP Hans Gert POETTERING.

    - "It's impossible  to achieve goals of PEACE, if HUMAN RIGHTS are left out :
in fact, Peace and Human Rights are intrinsequaly linked", added POETTERING.
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    + "For us (European/International Federation of Journalists) it's clear :
Whenever a Journalist is Murdered, the Investigation should continue until
those Responsible are found !", replied earlier to another question on ADALI
EFJ/IFJ's Secretary General, Aidan WHITE.

    Speaking as a matter of General Principle, White asked us for "concrete data"
on the execution of ECHR's judgement on Adali case, in order to "look at it in
depth" and "make a formal statement", in comparison with the other Murdered
Journalist case, also pending at CoE's  Ministers for completing its execution,
on Ukranian Gongadze.
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     From EU Rapporteur on Human Rights, vice-President of EU Parliament Liberties' Committee, MEP Giusto CATANIA, we were told that, since there is an ECHR judgement in both Adali and Gongadge's cases, "Turkey must naturally execute the judgement and make a full and efficient investigation, until those responsible for the Journalist's murder are found and punished".

    Even if "we (Catania's "EuroLeft" Group) support Turkey's EU perspectives, this does not mean that Ankara should not behave properly. On the contrary, it means that they have to meet tough conditions, particularly on Human Rights", was added on the occasion of Adali's murder case.

    Moreover, "since you raise the issue of Mr. Adali's muder as a part of a Series of Journalist's murders, including fex. Gongadze, Politkovskaya, ao., tthen we (EU) could also act together with CoE's Commissioner on Human Rights, Thomas HAMMARBERG, it was suggested.

    - "We (EU) must step up efforts against the problem of IMPUNITY : Real Peace cannot exist without Justice",  stressed also this week at EU Parliament in Strasbourg, French Minister on Human Rights, Mrs Rama YADE.
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