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316 v. 125: + Over 2 Times More People Arrested in Berlin than in Belarus the WeekEnd ?!

Written by ACM
Montag, 31 August 2020

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* All those People who sincerely appreciate modern Germany's crucial Role in nowadays' European affairs, (including, traditionaly, "Eurofora"), suddenly had a strange feeling at their heart, when they heard about the following facts :

During the last Week-end, various Demonstrations took place Both at Minsk (Belarus) and Berlin (Germany).

- At Minsk, there were, reportedly, 125 People Detained by the Police.

- But in Berlin (whose Police is mainly controled by local "Socialists" currently), the reported Number was ...much More than the Double : 316 People Arrested !

And in Belarus, the Demonstrators were reportedly aggressive, surounded the President's personal residence, with gross insults, etc., while in Germany, they apparently were quite calm, mainly hearing speaches in the Tiergarten, before making a social-distancing event (with music) up to the adjacent Branderburg's gate...

In Belarus those Demonstrators notoriously seek to overthrow the Government and seize political power, while in Germany they seeked to express their controversial views on the Anti-Virus and other society policies.           

The demonstration in Belarus apparently was not authorized at all, while, on the contrary, at Berlin, a German Court had notoriously authorized (on condition of social distancing) the demonstration, (initialy blocked by local "Socialist" politicians : See infra).          

At anOther issue, some correspondents of certain Foreign Medias reportedly faced problems these days in Belarus, (where the wider, general situation is beyond any comparison, anyway), but we also saw, inter alia, f.ex. also one of the rare full +50 Minutes-long video by German Web-Media of RF. Kennedy Jr.'s Press Conference in Berlin, (which, probably, might have included Journalists' Questions/Replies, totaly absent in published, shorter versions), be curiously ...blocked at the Internet, as "youtube" claimed that its content might perturbate youngsters (sic !), asking to reveil the identity of every reader, via a cumbersome procedure, before being eventualy authorized to see that topical socio-political information...                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     

Moreover, in Belarus, those Demonstrators, reportedly, insulted grossly the elected President of the country, calling him "cockroach" (sic !) and carrying "a cardboard toilet with a sign urging him to flush himself away", a coffin marked "Political corpse", etc. While, on the contrary, in Germany, the demonstrators were reading aloud selected parts of the German Constitution about Human Rights and Democracy, (as the organizers had invited them to give "white flowers" to police agents)...

Nevertheless, a Belarus' Presidential Counselor, Nikolai Latyshenok, reportedly "came out to Speak" with the Demonstrators at Minsk. On the Contrary, in Berlin, various Videos published by some mainstream Medias (including Bild, RT, etc), show Policemen suddenly come arrest even certain obviously non-violent demonstrators, without discussing...

Perhaps, is it only because of a particular stance by those "Socialists" who currently control Berlin's local area, especialy as the crucial National Elections 2021 are approaching ? It's a fact that the local "Socialist" Governor of Berlin's area had initially prohibited that demonstration, until a German Court of Justice authorized it. And, immediately afterwards, it was also the out-going "Socialist" President Steinmeier who published a disproportionaly alarming statement against ... a handful of a few departing demonstrators who, before leaving Berlin, walked up to the nearby Bundestag's big outdoor staircase to briefly shout their slogans, before being rapidly chassed away by the Police, (a notoriously popular place for frequent citizens' quews waiting their turn for a Touristic round-up to the Bulding's transparent Top, from where they can watch down to the MPs working at the Plenary). That tiny micro-incident astonishingly "eclipsed" the (40.000 People, according to the Police, or Hundreds of Thousands, according to the organizers) Huge Demonstration at Berlin's Tiergarten Victory column plazza, in most Establishment's Medias, which found a pretext to almost show nothing about the real big popular event...

At any case, it's obviously Not Normal, in a so important European Country like Germany, to Arrest much More than the Double Number of Demonstrators arrested in Belarus, the Same Days, (316 instead of 125).

The German People gave an unexpectedly Good massive example of their capacity to hold even Controversial public demonstrations (including a small counter-demonstration) on "Hot" Issues, in a Peaceful way, (as also the German Police reportedly acknowledged, later-on). But, some, apparently, had a quite Different agenda...

=> What's really going on, in our beloved Europe ?

Who (and Why) is, eventually, attempting to manipulate such a Core European Country as nowadays' Germany ?

 

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 (+UPDATE: According to Various Converging Sources, it seems that 2/3 of the People Arrested were in front of the ...Russian Embassy in Berlin, making some Friendly Appeals to Russia, proposing a kind of "Peace Treaty", [as also to USA's Embassy, nearby], Applauding to positive Calls for President Vladimir Putin, and/or tried to "Free" some "Arrested" demonstrators, reportedly "throwing water bottles to the Police" who detained them, etc.

=> Who might be against Friendly relations between Germany, and all the EU, with Russia, (as well as nowadays USA : Comp. Supra), at this point, and for which real Motivation ?]

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They voted to "freeze" UK Government's draft to put People in jail for 42 Days on "anti-terrorist" suspicion without charge, or they abstained. Don't they look suspect ?
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CoE's debate on UK controversy stirs PanEuropean check of anti-terror suspects' imprisonment

Former Leftists of the Sixties would boil in hot water if they heard PACE's debate on the controversial 42 days detention without charge, currently drafted by the British Government :

A "Socialist" Government, a Socialist PACE Rapporteur and a Socialist Chair of PACE's Legal Committee, opposed a .. "Conservative" amendment (supported by .. Liberals, Democrats, etc), to freeze the measure, in order to protect Citizens' Freedom, by "waiting" until CoE's Venice Committee checks its conformity with Human Rights' principles.

"Left"'s support to Conservative-Lib.Dem's criticism, wasn't enough to obtain a majority, nor to make things as they were back in the good old days, when "Left" and "Right" had a clear meaning, as "liberty" and "restrictions"...

Conservatives and most Democrats were joined by the Left in voting for the "freeze", as well as Liberal Paul Rowen, while Socialist MEP Ivan Popescu, an experienced MEP from Ukraine (PACE Member since 1996-2008) abstained. But most Socialists, added to a few Liberals and EPP's Right, voted against.

Fortunately, someone inside PACE had the wise idea to shorten the Debate for less than 1 Hour, and put it on the Agenda only at the end of an exceptionally busy day, towards the end of the Evening, when most MEPs had already gone to taste wins and foods at various Receptions all around Strasbourg's "European" area : As a result, not even 42 MEPs weren't present..

Socialist Lord Tomlinson accused the leaders of the PanEuropean Assembly, in its highest body : the "Bureau", to "lack wisdom" by deciding to hold a Debate on an issue that neither the Socialist Chair of the Legal Committee, nor its Socialist "reluctant Rapporteur", did "not want to do", ...

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Finally, everybody (critics and supporters alike) was happy to agree, in substance, that the controversial measure "may" gravely violate Human Rights, and therefore, PACE asked Legal Experts of Venice Commission to check UK Government''s plans.

But this might take more than .. 42 Days to do, since PACE's Rapporteur asked the Experts to enlarge their study in a PanEuropean comparison of all that is happening on "anti-terrorism" legislation in 47 CoE Member Countries, including Russia, Turkey and Azerbaidjan..

Bad lack : "The existing 28 days’ detention without charge in the UK is, in comparison with other CoE member countries, one of the most extreme : In Turkey, the period is 7,5 days, in France 6 days, in Russia 5 days, and in .. the U.S. and Canada just 2 and 1 days respectively", denounced Democrat MEP Ms WOLDSETH from Norway..

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"Numerous respected human rights organisations, including Liberty and Human Rights Watch, have expressed serious concern" "The proposed legislation ...could easily lead to extensive abuses. ...Detention for 42 days means six weeks in which one is taken away from one’s family, friends, home and livelihood only to be let off without being charged. That will destroy lives and isolate communities", she added.

- "3 years ago, the UK Government sought to increase the period of pre-charge detention from 14 days to 90 days. Not long before that, it had been only 7 days. There was a vigorous debate ...and a ...compromise was reached of 28 days. We have to ask whether there are proper safeguards in place to extend the period to 42 days. I suggest that there are fatal flaws", reminded British Conservative Clappison.

- "What sort of society holds someone in detention for 42 days and does not have to tell the person who is in prison why they are there, or explain the suspicions that arose and led to their detention? What sort of society believes that that is the way to treat its citizens? That is an appalling injustice, ...A 42-day detention period will not make the UK safer. Instead, it will be the first step to giving in to terrorists; it is saying that we are prepared to sacrifice our democratic rights and the principles for which we have stood for centuries", criticized British Liberal Michael Hanckock

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"Comments made ...by Norwegian delegates are unfortunate", replied British Socialist MEP Ms.Curtis-Thomas, accusing them to "besmirch the reputation of our police force, which is one of the Best in the World", as she said, believing that "there are significant safeguards ...to ensure that individuals are not subjected to unlawful detention"

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PACE "has serious doubts whether ...the draft legislation are in conformity with the ...case-law of the European Court of Human Rights. A lack of ..safeguards may lead to arbitrariness, resulting in breaches of ... liberty and ...right to a fair trial". PACE "is particularly concerned that: ..the judge ..may not be in a position to examine whether there exist reasonable grounds for suspecting that the arrested person has committed an offence;"; that "... representation by a lawyer may be inappropriately restricted or delayed;" that "information on the grounds for suspicion of a person ...may be unduly withheld.. ;" that this "may give rise to arrests without the intention to charge;", and; in general, that "prolonged detention without proper information on the grounds for arrest may constitute inhuman treatment", says Klaus De Vries' Report, adopted with 29 votes against zero.

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Records don't say if it took him 42 Days to draft his Report, but, at least, he knew why...

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