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EU Parliament's President Schulz+ to EuroFora on PACE a.o. Snowden Hearing on Web Spying

Written by ACM
Wednesday, 29 January 2014

 

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*Strasbourg/CoE/Angelo Marcopolo/- While Internet Spying Whistle-Blower Edward Snowden has just been proposed for a Nobel Peace Prize by 2 Norwegian former Ministers, amidst a "hot" on-going controversy which is due to be discussed even at the forthcoming Security Forum in Munchen (Germany) during this weekend, experienced EU Parliament's President, Martin Schulz, speaking to "EuroFora" at the conclusion of a Press point together with the newly elected President of CoE's PanEuropean Assembly (the 47 Member Countries-strong PACE, including Russia, etc), Anne Brasseur from Luxembourg (until now Chairwoman  of the Liberal Group of MEPs), expressed a Careful but Open stance on the proposal of PACE's competent Rapporteur, Dutch ChristianDemocrat/EPP MEP Pieter Omtzigt, to try to invite Snowden to a Hearing, before forthcoming Public Debates and Votes by the PACE, currently scheduled in Strasbourg for April.


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    Pieter Omtzigt is CoE's Rapporteur both on "Whistle-Blowers' protection", and on "Massive Eavesdropping" by NSA etc. at the Internet, but stressed the fact that in Edward Snowden case, these 2 CoE concerns are clearly united together in one. That's one among the reasons for which his Draft Double Report, discussed earlier this week in Strasbourg by the Legal affairs and Human Rights' Committee of CoE's Assembly, practicaly concludes, inter alia, by a clear proposal to Invite Snowden to a contradictory Hearing, in one way or another, despite well known obstacles and even reported threats.


    - Speaking earlier to "EuroFora", after an open meeting of PACE's Legal/Human Rights Committee, organized togeher with the Cultural affairrs Committee, to hear Experts for Internet Law, Encryption and Software on how to Protect Users' personal data from Spying and/or other Aggressions, Omtzigt told us that his Draft Report was due to be released Today, i.e. shortly before an exceptional Visit to the CoE by EU Parliament's President, German SocialDemocrat MEP Martin Schulz.


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    => Therefore, "EuroFora" asked afterwards Schulz  whether he supported, or not, CoE Assembly  Rapporteur's official demand, now just released also by writting, to invite Snowden for a Hearing on Internet Spying, which would be of a fundamentaly contradictory nature, together with other Experts.

 - "I think that it's very Difficult to Invite him", (Snowden), replied from the outset the experienced EU Parliament's President, Warning about probable Obstacles, but without denying, however, the Interest that such a Hearing can have.

 + Moreover, President Schulz spontaneously .. laughed a lot, when he learned from "EuroFora" that another, relevant idea of PACE's Rapporteur was also to try "to invite Snowden for a Hearing together with a Senior Official of the U.S. Administration", in order to get both sides of the story, and engage in a real Debate...                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     

 - "We had the same Problem in the EU Parliament", Schulz revealed.

- But "we (EU) can't solve it",  "because", apparently, it couldn't go without "Risks for Mr. Snowden"...., he went on to add, indirectly but obviously Warning for Dangers of eventual Aggressions (about which there were, already, reportedly several Threats, even in Public, inclusing to Brutally shoot and kill him..

- This goes, at least "for the Time being", President Schulz added, apparently Hoping that things might become a little Better, in the next few weeks or months,...


+ However, by simply abstaining from giving an explicit Reply, while Thoughtfully reflecting apparently on the pro and cons of "EuroFora"s last Question, about whether he would "Join Forces with CoE's Assembly", in order to find a Solution to the Problem of Snowden's Hearing, later Together; Schulz didn't exclude at all, but rather Left Open such a possibility for the Future...

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Earlier, indeed, he anounced his common wish, together with CoE's Assembly's new President Anne Brasseur, to "Intensify" even further, Cooperation and Joint Actions between EU Parliament and PACE, particularly in order to make good use of the PanEuropean body's capacity to integrate also Russia's, Ukraine's and other such Neighbouring Countries of Strategic importance for the EU, as Schulz told Journalists in Strasbourg, including "EuroFora".


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At any case, Omtzigt's Draft report notes the Fact that "Snowden  may not be in a position to Travel to Strasbourg", because "he is a Wanted man in the US", so that "the US might request the Extradition from France, the CoE's seat State, which may have some Obligations as such".


That's why, "as fellback", PACE's Rapporteur suggests that "we (CoE) could invite Mr. Snowden to participate in the Hearing by way of Tele-Conferencing, or the (PACE's) Commission could authorize (Omtzigt himself) to Visit him in Russia and report back to it", afterwards.


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+ Meanwhile, after another PACE Hearing, earlier this week in Strasbourg, of Experts on how to Protect Users from Internet Spying, London Metropolitan University Professor of International Law, Douwe Korff, speaking to "EuroFora", stressed that what was recently revealed about NSA's Massive Surveillance was a series of blatant Violations of Human Rights, which must stop, while also advising CoE  to ask all its Member States to publish all Treaties that they might have concluded in the Past on such issues.

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As for the famous Developer of the "Tor" project,  Jacob Appelbaum from the USA, speaking also to "EuroFora", mainly defended Tor's capacities to protect Users from Internet Spying at their Computers, but also warned about the Risk for illegal Spying to intervene at one point or another of the Cable Communications' Network, thereby showing the current Need for a Strong Political Movement in order to succeed to really Stop Massive Spying at the Internet. Last but not least, German Researcher Christian Grothoff, member of the "Pirates" party and Professor at Munchen's Technical University, stressed to "EuroFora" that, in his view, it's of crucial importance to use only Non-Proprietary, but "Open" Software, in order to be able to find out whether some Spying virus has been eventually instaured in a hidden code, or not.

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However, a systematic search of currently badly needed ways to "improve User Protection and Sec urity in Cyberspace", is expected through a Draft Report prepared by the new Head of the German Delegation at CoE's PanEuropean Assembly, ChristianDemocrat MEP Axel Fischer, who, replying to "EuroFora"'s questions, observed the fact that not even the "Non - Spy" bilateral deal between Governments, that German Chancellor Angie Merkel, together with French President Francois Hollande, had asked from the USA during the October 2013 EU Summit in Brussels (See relevant "EuroFora"s NewsReports from Brussels, then), hadn't yet been agreed until now, while, concerning his CoE's Report, he revealed that it is due to be definitively adopted by PACE's Committee on Culture, Science, Education and Media in the Middle of March at Moscow.

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After dressing a long list of Nightmaresque concrete Dangers which may currently threat Internet Users' personal data Security, Axel Fischer's Draft Report proposes a Double Series of possible Measures in order to Protect Citizens, both at a Global level (f.ex. via ICANN, UNO, IGF, etc), and at a European and PanEuropean area, mainly via the EU and CoE, due to be debated in Public and finally adopted at the Next PACE Plenary Session in Strasbourg on April.

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Hu Jia's prize brings SAKHAROV's wife to "EuroFora" on murders of Journalists Politkofskaya, Gongadze and Adali :

- Elena Bonner : "All Journalists' murders must be fully investigated", without Double Standards.                                                                                    

During a special Mega-Event to celebrate 20 Years of SAKHAROV Prize for "Freedom of Thought", attributed in 2008 by EU Parliament to jailed Chinese Cyber-Dissident Hu JIA, the move was reinforced by strongly criticizing the persisting impunity in three cases of Journalists' Murders, such as POLITKOVSKAYA in Russia, GONGADZE in Ukraine, and ADALI in Turkish-occupied part of Cyprus.

Any bureaucratic doubt about whether Cyber-dissidents like Hu JIA might have, or not, a right to be protected as all Journalists must be, particularly when they take risks to search, find and publish original and critical News on issues of general interest to the society, could not resist to the emotion provoked by the message of his Wife, Zeng JINYAN spectacularly transmitted at a big screen in EU Parliament's hemicycle :

- "The most important and most interesting thing he did was to ... say the Truth :.. to write about the phenomena he observed... He never stopped Publishing.. on websites, so that the Public could learn about the reality .. and understand it.  In my view, this has been his greatest contribution", stressed the young wife of the jailed man, eager to cite also the cases of other critical journalists who faced various kinds of "harassment".

 - "Welcoming all those who have suffered for defending Human Rights", EU Parliament's President, German MEP Hans Gert POETTERING, who had invited to Strasbourg all former Sakharov prize-winners from various Countries throughout the World, said that "China needs Europe, and Europe needs China : A great nation" with which "we want to have a good relationship", "association and ..friendship". "But we are never going to stop our fight for Human Rights, and No Government can expect this from us".

    - "It's impossible  to achieve goals of Peace, if Human Rights are left out. In fact, Peace and Human Rights are intrinsequaly linked", added POETTERING.

    It's in this spirit that MEPs adopted, on Thursday, a Resolution denouncing that "the criminal
investigation and trial following the murder of (a) Journalist ...raises serious concerns with regard to transparency and respect for the rule of law", when a "brutal killing has not yet been fully investigated and solved in a satisfactory way".

    The text refered to dissident Journalist "Anna POLITOVSKAYA", a critic of Tchechen conflict, killed some years ago in Moscow, where Russian Authorities have found, arrested and are currently judging two executants, while also searching to arrest also a 3rd one, allegedly escaped in Belgium. But they have not yet found the instigators.

     Similar texts were adopted recently also on dissident Ukranian Journalist Georgiy GONGADZE's murder, for which Ukranian Authorities have at least found, arrested and condemned 2 executants to 12 and 13 Years of jail, but not yet the instigators. For that purpose, they recently accepted an International Experts team to participate to the investigations.     

But, it's only for the Murder of dissident Turkish Cypriot Journalist ADALI, in the occupied territories of Cyprus, that Turkey has NOT yet found ANYONE responsible, and even claimed recently inside CoE that it would be "impossible" to do so !    

These astonishing differences exist despite the fact that ECHR condemned alike Ukraine and Turkey with 2 Judgements on the same year : 2005, for the murders of  Journalists GONGADZE and ADALI, strong critics of Corruption in Ukraine, and of Ankara's policies on mass-influx of Turkish Settlers in the Occupied Territories of Cyprus, respectively.    

Regarless of that, CoE's Committee of Ministers, who is entrusted with the duty to supervise execution of ECHR's judgements, has just asked Ukraine's Government to reply to further questions on Gongadze's murder before March 2009, while Turkey, curiously, got a longer postponement for answering questions on Adali's murder, until June...   

A comparison of these cases, raises serious questions about Double Standards :

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On TRANSPARENCY :
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    On Gongadze's murder, CoE's body speaks even about the participation of
"an INTERNATIONAL group of Experts" in the Investigation, (f.ex. of "Tape Recordings"), accepted by Ukraine.
    On the contrary, on Adali's murder, CoE is obliged to repeatedly ask (for a 2nd
time) Turkey whether, at least, it informed the victims' Family, or not...
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- On EFFICIENCY :
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On Gongadze's murder, CoE formally "recalls that the Committee (of Ministers) ..URGED the Ukranian authorities.. to TAKE ALL NECESSARY INVESTIGATIVE STEPS TO ACHIEVE CONCRETE and VISIBLE RESULTS in the INVESTIGATION, aimed at the Identification of the INSTIGATORS and Organisers of the Murder", and "STRONGLY INVITED the Ukranian Authorities to provide information on the PROGRESS IN THE INVESTIGATION", before MARCH 2009.

But, on Adali's murder, on the contrary, CoE's body merely .. "took note" of the "arguments presented by" Cyprus, which denounce the absence of any proof of new "investigation" by Turkey. Following Turkey's own suggestion (!), it simply "noted" that there is "no limitation period" for "any new element" to "lead potentialy (sic !) to a Re-Opening of the Investigation". Without saying who might find any such "new" fact, since Turkey stoped searching... It also POSTPONED the issue until .. JUNE  !
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 - On the PUNISHMENT OF THOSE RESPONSIBLE :
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 -  On Gongadze's murder case, Ukranian Authorities already arrested and condemned, at least 2 suspects, to 12 and 13 Years of jail. And on Politkovskaya's murder at least 2 suspects are judged, and a 3rd one "wanted".

On the contrary, on Adali's murder case, the Turkish authorities simply claim that "it had not been possible to obtain new .. information .. on the basis of which criminal charges could be brought against ANY person" !...

Moreover,  a LETTER sent by Turkey ...2 Years after CoE's 2006 call to re-investigate anew Adali's murder case, is totally EMPTY of Facts ! As Cypus' Delegation denounced earlier, Turkey's Letter ONLY CLAIMS that a "New Investigation" was made without any result, but does NOT even cite ANY FACT to prove it :

F.ex.,on the crucial issue of the "MOTIVATIONS" behind Adali's murder, noted by ECHR, Turkey MERELY CLAIMS that "all allegations  were investigated; without result", but OMITS ANY FACT TO PROVE IT !..(It doesn't even remind which were these "allegations").. .

+ On ECHR's astonishment that the Turkish Occupation regime didn't produce any "BALLISTIC REPORT" on the Shots which murdered Adali, Turkey again repeats, 12 years later, that, still, even until now, "it  was not possible to obtain the BalisticReport"...

- As for the astonishing absence of key-WITNESSES' Testimonies, denounced by ECHR, Turkey agains repeats various pretexts avoiding to reveal anything, (Fex. that a person "left" the Occupied Territories  "on 2002", or that another witness was heard, but without revealing nothing of what he said, etc).

Turkey obviously "FAILS TO MEET THE CRITICISM made BY THE COURT" for lack of any efficient Investigation in Adali's case, concluded Cyprus' Government.
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Replying to our Question which COMPARED these 3 outstanding cases of "JOURNALISTS MURDERS", Adali, Gongadze and Politkovskaya, in order to avoid "Double Standards" by asking from Ukraine and Russia more than what is asked EU candidate Turkey, many European personalities were critical /

They criticised Ankara's recent claim at the CoE to stop investigating, because it would be "impossible to find anyone" responsible for the 5 bullet shots which killed Kutlu ADALI in front of his Family Home, contrary to the other two Journalists' murders, where Ukraine and Russia at least arrested the executants, searching now for the instigators :
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    - "Where was that ? In Turkish Occupied Cyprus ? WITHOUT ANY DOUBT : Any murder of Journalist should be investigated in full ! All these Murders must be investigated !", replied the famous SAKHAROV's wife, Elena BONNER to our question on Adali's case, compared to Gongadze and Politofskaya.

    Elena Bonner spoke us EXCLUSIVELY shortly after being honored by the President
of EU Parliament on the occasion of 20 Years of her husband's SAKHAROV Prize.

    A strong personality, Sakharov's wife even had to struggle against an anonymous EU staffer who, astonishingly, tried to stop her speaking when h heard our question on "Turkey" (!) : - "Please, let me translate, she continues
speaking, don't stop us !", had to cry Sakharov's daughter, (a Journalist
herself), who was translating her mothers' reply, (obliged to speak louder to
make her voice heard despite the harassment).. (= + Audio Proof !)

    Earlier, Elena Bonner also fustigated "Double Standards" at another case, on
Western countries' attitude vis a vis Kosovo and the Kurds : -F.ex. "You have
recognized a few 400.000 Kosovars as an "independent" country, but you still
deny that to 30 millions of Kurds in Turkey !", she denounced.
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    - "This (ADALI's murder) is an issue which should be pursued by the Committee
for Human Rights. That's why we have one, and it's its duty to examine cases of
Journalists' murders as the one you referred to. You should bring the case in
front of that Committee", suggested in reply to our question on Adali, EU
Parliament's President, German MEP Hans Gert POETTERING.

    - "It's impossible  to achieve goals of PEACE, if HUMAN RIGHTS are left out :
in fact, Peace and Human Rights are intrinsequaly linked", added POETTERING.
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    + "For us (European/International Federation of Journalists) it's clear :
Whenever a Journalist is Murdered, the Investigation should continue until
those Responsible are found !", replied earlier to another question on ADALI
EFJ/IFJ's Secretary General, Aidan WHITE.

    Speaking as a matter of General Principle, White asked us for "concrete data"
on the execution of ECHR's judgement on Adali case, in order to "look at it in
depth" and "make a formal statement", in comparison with the other Murdered
Journalist case, also pending at CoE's  Ministers for completing its execution,
on Ukranian Gongadze.
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     From EU Rapporteur on Human Rights, vice-President of EU Parliament Liberties' Committee, MEP Giusto CATANIA, we were told that, since there is an ECHR judgement in both Adali and Gongadge's cases, "Turkey must naturally execute the judgement and make a full and efficient investigation, until those responsible for the Journalist's murder are found and punished".

    Even if "we (Catania's "EuroLeft" Group) support Turkey's EU perspectives, this does not mean that Ankara should not behave properly. On the contrary, it means that they have to meet tough conditions, particularly on Human Rights", was added on the occasion of Adali's murder case.

    Moreover, "since you raise the issue of Mr. Adali's muder as a part of a Series of Journalist's murders, including fex. Gongadze, Politkovskaya, ao., tthen we (EU) could also act together with CoE's Commissioner on Human Rights, Thomas HAMMARBERG, it was suggested.

    - "We (EU) must step up efforts against the problem of IMPUNITY : Real Peace cannot exist without Justice",  stressed also this week at EU Parliament in Strasbourg, French Minister on Human Rights, Mrs Rama YADE.
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