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Prime Minister Orban (Hungary) to EF: Yes to European Referendum, but Better many National Referenda

Written by ACM
Friday, 16 September 2016
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*Bratislava/1st EU 27 Summit/Angelo Marcopolo/- Reacting to Socialist MEP and currently EU Parliament's President, Martin Schulz's rejection of a National Referendum Critical to some EU Policies in "Hot" Issues, such as the recent Mass Migration through Turkey Controversy, (as itresults from his Reply to a an "Eurofora" Question, earlier Today, (See : http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/euparliamentpresidentoncitizensandbratislavasummit.html), the very Popular Prime Minister of Hungary, ChristianDemocrat/EPP Victor Orban, (who has been Brillantly re-Elected by Large Majority of his People's Votes, Both in National and European Elections), took a Strong stance on an "Eurofora" Question, during his Press Conference at the End of Bratislava 1st Summit of 27 EU Member States' Leaders, about whether he would Back "a European Referendum", giving a Chance also, f.ex. to French, German, or even British, a.o. EU Citizens to have a Say on an Issue which notoriously Affects them too :

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    - "Mr Prime Minister, you spoke, Earlier this Morning, with EU Parliament's President, Mr. Schulz, who Told us that, as a matter of Principle, he was Against any National Referendum which might, eventualy, Block a EU Decision, while, however, also whishing that EU Citizens have a Say before EU Decisions", "Eurofora" reminded to Orban, (See President Schulz's relevant Reply to "Eurofora"s Question, at : ....).


    => - In that case, "would You be in favor, for what you defend, of a European Referendum, on the Same (Topical) Issues, or Other, where All European People", f.ex. "also French, German, Hungarian or British People, and others, would like to have a Say ? Do you Think that it wouldbe a Good Idea to Advance in This Way ?", "Eurofora" asked Prime Minister Victor Orban.


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    - "First of all, let me Answer by reminding the fact that Our Fight, which, according to Our Constitution, which Provides a Chance for Our Citizens to Express their Opinion", the Hungarian Prime Minister reacted immediately.


    + In Fact, this is "a Breaking Point", "Because ... the (Mass) Migrants' Issue is linked also to Our National Identity". And "Identity Belongs to the People. Not to an Elite !", Victor Orban stressed in Reply to "Eurofora"s Question, speaking as a matter of General Principle.


    - "Second, I must Say, that a European Referendum, as (EU) Institutions are until Today, is very Weak", particularly "Compared to a National Referendum", he Warned.


    - "If that would have Not been the case,  so that a European Referendum would have a Real Chance to Influence Decisions in Brussels", then,  "I would Definitively Say <<Yes !>>", Orban honestly Agreed.


    - "But, under the Circumstances" of Today, "it has Not a Real Sense", at least as far as Political Efficiency is concerned, he pointed out.


    => -  "Thus, we could have several National Referenda" in various EU National States, "But, anyway, I'm not an Adviser to Other Sovereign Countries", Victor Orban Highlighted as a Possibility, but leaving it up to each EU Member State's independent decisions.


    >>> - "So", as things stand, it's better, Now,  "to give some Advise to the Hungarian People, and Tell them : Please, Make all due Efforts so that we will be Able to Defend our Identity !", the Popular Prime Minister of Hungary launched a Vibrant Call to his Citizens, in Conclusion to his Reply to "Eurofora"s Query (See Above).


    Indeed, this isan Issue which "concerns (also) Our (Historic, Cultural and Religious) Identity", as he underlined, speaking also in favor of the "Visegrad" Group of EU Countries' Critical stance on such Topical matters, notioriously "Hot" nowadays, throughout all Europe, as both the UK's "BREXIT" Referendum, and an Unprecedented Series of various Islamic Extremist Terrorists' Violent Attacks against Innocent Civilian People in Many European Countries during this Summer 2016, added to a lot of Converging Polls almost everywhere throughout main and/or key EU Member States, clearly indicate.

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 Victor Orban said that to "Eurofora" at the Aftermath of the International Day for Democracy, (celebrated by the UNO and several Regional Organisations, Governments, Human Rights/Rule of Law/pro-Democracy NGOs and Activists, etc, all over the World).

 


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Sarkozy and Merkel want deals with Obama on European Security at Strasbourg's NATO 2009 Summit

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In parallel but concording moves, EU Chair, French President Nicolas Sarkozy and German Chancellor Angie Merkel both invited this week US-President elect, Barack Obama, to discuss important deals breaking new ground on European Security during the NATO's 60 Years Anniversary Summit of Heads of State in Strasbourg, where Obama is expected to make his 1st visit to Europe as a President on April 2009.

Merkel focused mainly on smoother NATO - EU Defence and Security policy cooperation, while Sarkozy spoke about PanEuropean Security, associating both Russia and the USA, proposing to freeze missile and shields' deployement until an agreement is reached.

But both tackled some hard nuts to crack : Turkey's VETO against the participation of EU Member Cyprus to EU-NATO cooperation, and Russia's anouncement on deployment of missiles up to Kaliningrad, at EU's belly, in reply to USA's wish to set up missile shields in EU States such as Poland or Czech Republic, etc.


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- "Certainly...one of the points that we'll dicuss with the New US President", Barak OBAMA, "who will come f'or the 1st time in Europe as president, at the NATO Summit", co-hosted by France and Germany in Strasbourg, ""concerns, above all, the European Security and Defence Policy" (ESDP), and "the relations between NATO and its partners", with whom it should "work together", anounced earlier this week Merkel.

We must find "a reasonable and adequate concept to articulate NATO and European Security and Defense policy", because of a "series of practical issues, sometimes difficult to understand", but that "we must discuss".

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- "An example" of that is "the issue of Cyprus and Turkey", said Merkel, where Ankara raises problems "from Kosovo up to Afghanistan", as also CoE's chair, Swedish Foreign Minister Carl Bildt recently observed in Strasbourg replying to EuroFora's questions.

- "We must do something to smoothen this problem for good, and not only on a case-by-case basis, laboriously negotiated each time". Here, we must find "a reasonable and adequate concept to articulate NATO and European Security and Defense policy", Merkel stressed.

- "With good will from all sides, it could and should be posible. Germany wants also to help on that". Otherwise, "the coming generations will not understand why it took Decades to do so". But, if we "don't even achieve that for Decades, this would be an Historic Failure !", the German Chancellor warned

- "I think that our American partners are increasingly realizing that", Merkel said, pleading for "a stronger European Security and Defence policy, with which, I believe, the Atlantic Security Partnership can also strengthen and solidify".

Meanwhile, USA is also due to take in 2009 a special status inside EU-led EUROCORPS, the European Army HeadQuarters, based in Strasbourg.

Merkel said that after meeting in Berlin with NATO's Secretary General, Jaap de Hoop Scheffer, earlier this week, precisely in order to "prepare NATO's Summit", scheduled for the beginning of April 2009 in Strasbourg.

Scheffe, knows well Strasbourg, since he chaired the CoE, as Holland's Foreign Minister, when he brokered a controversial deal precisely on Turkey and Cyprus about the implementation of ECHR judgements on Greek Cypriot displaced persons' houses and properties in 2003. He returned later at least once, for a WEO meeting at the CoE, where he precisely had highlighted such EU - NATO issues.

EU Commission's 2008 Report on Turkey has just observed that, on European Defense - Security policy, "Turkey continues to object to EU-NATO Cooperation which would involve all EU Member States". "This created Problems for EU-NATO co-operation in the context of Civilian ESDP missions, in particular in Kosovo and Afghanistan".
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 French EU Chair, President Sarkozy and Merkel are visiting Washington on Friday and Saturday for a Global G-20 Summit with current US President George Bush, on the sidelines of which are expected preparatory contacts with US President-elect Obama's entourage, even if himself might stay in Chicago until he takes over on January 21.

Before going to Washington, Sarkozy concluded today an UE - Russia Summit with Dmitry Medvedev, where they "spoke in length on PanEuropean Security" :

- As EU President, I proposed that we meet on mid-2009 in a framework such as OSCE's in order to set the foundations of a Future Pan-European Security, which would associate Russia and USA, and that, meanwhile, nobody speaks about deploying missiles or shields, which complicate the situation".

- NATO's Summit in Strasbourg-Kehl, on April 2009 is a perfect occasion to discuss with our American friends and to prepare a possible OSCE Summit for these issues f.ex. for June or July", Sarkozy concluded.

- We must all abstain from Unilateral measures" dangerous for Europe's security. "Russia only reacted to decisions taken by some other countries. But if they are ready to cooperate, we are ready to discuss. EU could be an intermediary", added Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, before going himself too at the Washington G-20 Economic Summit.

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