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Mandatory Vaccine row from Texas to Strasbourg: Dissidents win v. Establishment in ECHR Law Contest

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*Strasbourg/CoE/Angelo Marcopolo/- In a Case that has Rocked the USA, and may come anew to Press Headlines in Europe in the foreseeable Future, the CoE's Foreign Ministers-Backed 2018 Annual Moot Court contest organized by the European Law Students Association (ELSA) at the ECHR, where Secretary General, former Prime Minister of Norway and NOBEL Peace Committee Top Member, Thorbjorn Jagland, awarded Today in Strasbourg the Prizes to the Winners, the 1st was attributed to the Team which Supported Popular Dissidents' Complaint against a State's attempt to Impose by Force a Controversial Massive Vaccination of Children, on Public Health pretexts, despite Many Families' Opposition, on Moral, Health and Religious grounds.


Among about a Hundred of reported Candidate Teams from various Universities accross Europe, 19 Finalists competed during 3 Days at the CoE in Strasbourg, included Teams, inter alia, not only from France (Grenoble/Alpes), Germany (1.502-founded Martin Luther's Wittenberg University from Saxonny-Anhalt), Greece (Democritos University of Thrace's Comotini City), and Sweden (Orebro University at Central Swedish Lakes), as well as Czech Republic (Mazaryk University at the Constitutional Court's HeadQuarters in Brno), and Romania (Timisoara), but also from the current EU Chair Bulgaria (St. Kliment University from Sofia), and the incoming CoE Chair Croatia (Zagreb University), as well as Albania (Tirana University), even Ukraine (Catholic University at Lviv, steming from a Greek Catholic Theological Academy created on 1928), and Russia (Moscow's Higher School of Economics, Faculty of Law). Added to Turkey, COE Member since the Cold War, (with Ankara's private Bilkent University). But UK made the Largest Participation, with ...6 Universities (Cambridge, Sheffield and Aberdeen in Scotland, as well as City, Queen Mary and King's College of London).

 

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(Russian Team from Moscow at ECHR's entrance)
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However, the Surprize Winner was a Spanish Team (from "IE" Business University at Madrid, as well as at Segovia and Castile/Leon), who Artfully and Actively Pleaded the Cause of Dissident People obliged to Lodge a Complaint at the ECHR against Oppressive Measures taken by a State in order to Impose to their Children (New Born Babies included) Massive Vaccinations that its Government found Necessary for Public Health in general. The Seriously Documented, in Fluent English, but also Spanish Passion, Pleadings of that Team, headed by a Young Lady full of Energy for the Cause that she served, really Deserved the 1st CoE-ELSA Award for that Moot Court competition at ECHR's Grear Chamber.

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Nevertheless, London's Kings College Head representative, George Collecott, usefully accompagnied by an efficient young Lady, succeeded to Save UK's honour, by Winning the 1st Award for an Individual Plaidoyerie, even in the "Hard" position of a Defendant Lawyer pleading for the Respondent State's attempts to Force a Mass Vaccination of Children, even Against their Families' wish, (See Infra).


- CoE's Secretary General, Thornbjorn Jagland, speaking at the Award Ceremony in the ECHR, later Today, noted that the PanEuropean Organisation's Cooperation with ELSA with its 50.000 Members completes, on 2018, a full Decade, and stressed that if the Young Law Students use well their aquired Knowledge to theis subsequent practical activities, and really "Take Human Rights Seriously", then, "Europe's Future will be in You !", as he highlighted in conclusion.

 

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Indeed, the 2018 ECHR-ELSA Case was really "Serious", and far from being purely Imaginary :


In Fact, such kind of Issues have, among others, also rocked one of USA's Biggest and Key States : that of Texas, already as Early as since 2007 - 2011/2016, provoking a Strong Controversy, with Large Involvement among the affected People, which practically Costed to former Governor Perry not only his usual job, but even his Participation to the 2016 US Presidential Elections, where he was due to Compete (at GOP's Primaries) with current US President Don Trump (2017-2021).


Despite having become a Republican (Right) Party Politician after Flip-flopping from a Democrat (Left), Perry was cought in an Exceptionaly "Hot" Dispute between "Fiscal (i.e. Financial) Conservatives" and Social/Cultural Values Conservatives at the Popular Basis, precisely when he made an Unsuccesfull Attempt to Impose by Force a Massive Vaccination to all Young Girls aged just 11 or 12 years, by Claiming that a Controversial New Vaccine (Tested Only 5 Years then) may prevent one of the factors leading to Cervical Cancer of their eventual Children in some cases in the Future.


But Critics (Headed by "Tea Party" Leaders f. Congresswoman Michelle Bachmann and f. US vice-Presidential Candidate + f. Alasca Governor Sarah Palin, as well as Christian "Evangelical" People, etc), strongly Protested, arguying that this Vaccine's alleged Efficiency was still Doubtful, while, on the Contrary, it might have serious Side-Effects (including f.ex. to eventually provoke Mental/Neurological Troubles, etc), was Against several Christians' Beliefs (f.ex. on Sexual conduct of underage and/or unmarried Girls), and Violated Families' Right to Raise their own Children in Freedom, (as an Opt-out clause had been almost Biffed in real Practice).


(Even Recently, Only a Minority of 27% of USA's Girls were Vaccinated, while a Debate on Adverse Effects still continues, including Neurological and/or Immune System Problems, and even several Dozens of Deaths were reported. Reported Numbers are, comparatively, Small, but most Tests are still made by the interested Company).


Corruption allegations were Added in this Issue, (by a Timely Coincidence with CoE's Annual "GRECO" Anti-Corruption Report's Publication, earlier This Week : See ...), considering also Perry's consistent Long-Time pattern of too close and shady Interest Links with some para-Medical Lobbies : F.ex., a stuborn Opposition to Efforts to Help Victims bring to Justice serious Incidents of Mal-Practice by some abusive Doctors ; Financial Backing by the Big Pharma Company which Sold that Expensive (360 $ initially, 525 $ currently) Vaccine, (including 5.000 $ paid in his latest Electoral Campain = 36.000$ during recent years, about 375.000 $ to a National Association that he Chaired, and which reportedly Contributed for almost 4 Millions $ to his Electoral expenses, in Addition to Hiring his former Chief of Staff, who became a Lobbyist for that Company, before preparing a Super PAC's plans to raise 55 Millions $ for Perry's GOP Presidential Candidacy on 2015, etc) ; Veto against Funding a Team of Prosecutors against Corruption, who were also Investigating allegations against a Research Institute for Cancer Prevention in Texas, (Affair for which he was even Indicted by a Court, and risked Prison, until 2016), etc.


Finally, Perry was convinced to Drop that Controversial Mandatory mass-Vaccination, (which had Not yet been Imposed but Only to 2 Other among USA's 50 States, but was Starting, then, to Spread), when even Texas' Assembly Majority Voted a Resolution Against it. But, meanwhile, he had to Drop his Governor job, and Afterwards he Aborted even his US Presidential Candidate plans (Comp. Supra).


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- But, Today, in ECHR's Headquarters in Strasbourg, the Fight was quite "Hot", and, at the Beginning, apparently Uncertain, between the 2 above-mentioned "Finalist" University Teams from Spain and the UK on a Similar Issue, pictured at an Imaginary CoE's Member Country, where the State had Decided to take even Coercitive Measures in order to Oblige all recalcitrant Families to Obey a Controversial Order to Submit even their Youngest Children, already from the Age of New-Born Babies, to a Series of various Vaccines, (Comp. Supra).

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- Speaking earlier to "Eurofora", the Head of London's Kings College University's team, which played the role of the respondent State's Legal Defenders, (receiving afterwards the No 1 Prize for an Individual Oral Plaidoyerie : Comp. Supra), told us that, in his view, a Main and Crucial Point of Law, was the Fact that "there is No Majority stance among CoE's (47) Member States" about the Mandatory, or not, characted of such Mass-Vaccination Campaigns :


=> Therefore, "ECHR should Accept a Wide Margin of Appreciation for Each State to Decide" what it deems Better suited to the Concrete Situation actually present at its own Territory, in one moment or another, he told us.

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- But the Head of the Spanish IE Madrid University's Team, which played the role of the Dissident People's Complaint Against that State's Oppressive Measures vis a vis those Families which Opposed their Children's forced Vaccination on various Health and mainly Religion grounds, (Comp. Supra), a Serious but Passionate Young Lady, speaking to "Eurofora", prefered to place her Main Legal Argument at a Different Point :


- She had already Admitted, in Reply to Earlier Questions by the Jury, that, indeed, her Initial Legal Analysis about "18 out of 34 States" in Europe currently "Not" Imposing Mandatory mass-Vaccinations as those of the present case, could Not be taken, Definitively, as a Proof of the eventual Existence of a Majority of States Allowing a Free and Crystal-Clear "Opt Out" for justified Dissidents, since CoE's Member States notoriously were 47, but, for Practical Reasons, it had Not been yet Possible to really Know, with Certainty, what was the real Position of the Remaining Countries.


=> - That's why, the Head of the Winner Team (from Spain) had Prefered to Focus much More on Contesting the real Need for that State to Impose such a Mass Vaccination to All its Population of Children, i.e. by Taking Measures of Enforcement against any eventual Dissident Families (Comp. Supra), Despite of the Fact that "there were No Epidemics, and, at any case, the Herd Immunisation Threshhold (theoretically Covering all the Population, even those who were not vaccinated) had been obtained in this case, by the sufficiently Great Number of People already Vaccinated", as she explained to "Eurofora", in Conclusion.


>>> This Key Legal Point, can, Obviously Fit the particular Schema of the Present, 2018 ECHR-ELSA Moot Court Competition, based on an Imaginary Scenario where the Dissident People Opposed to a Massive Vaccination of their Children are, comparatively, a more or less Small "Minority", Mainly Focused on some "Religious" Belief grounds, (i.e. under Article 8 and 9 of the European Convention of Human Rights). But it canNot also Cover those Dissident People who might, eventually, Object, in Addition, Because, also, of a "Hot" Controversy on the alleged Health Issues and/or UnCertainties, (f.ex. on the Importance of possible Side-Effects), which would Risk to Affect their Children if they are Obliged to be Vaccinated even against their Parents' wish. Obviously, Because, in such a case, that Dissident Population might even be the Majority of the concerned Population inside a given Country, (as, f.ex., it's reportedly still the case Nowadays for the above-mentioned "Texas" Affair in the USA : Comp. Supra).


I.e., in other words, to put it in a nutshell, the Legal Fight of Ideas, in the name of Human Rights, about nowadays' Controversies on various eventually Mandatory Mass Vaccinations' Cases, including Reactions among Dissident People and Families, does Not yet seem to have been Clearly settled, with Absolute Certainty, at least at an ECHR case-law level, as it was currently interpreted by this Interesting 2018 CoE- ELSA Moot Court Competition...

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- In fact, Judges have "Always" to "go through the Necessary Process of Taking into Account the Competing Interests, in the Light of Strasbourg's Case-Law", reminded, as a matter of General Principle,  speaking to "Eurofora" on this occasion,  ECHR's Registrar, Roderick Liddell, (who has an Extensive Experience of the PanEuropean Court's work during Decades, after Studying Law at Oxford University and working as Legal Expert, Assistant to ECHR's President, Chief of Press/Communication, Head of Strasbourg Court's General Services, and Elected since December 2015 as Registrar responsible for 600 Legal and Administrative Staff at the ECHR).


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- Concluding the Official Ceremony at ECHR's Headquarters, the current Chairman-in-office of CoE's Highest Political body, that of its Committee of Ministers, Danish Ambassador/Permanent Representative to the CoE, Arnold de Fine Skibsted, after Nostalgically recalling his own, personal "Good Old Times" as "a Law Student" too, (that he exagerated by calling "PreHistoric"), ended on the Most Serious Matter, by repeatedly Stressing the Need, at the core of nowadays Democratic Societies, to ensure not only the Definition, but also "the Implementation of Human Rights" in real practice, which notoriously still is an unfulfilled yet "Mission".

 

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De Fine Skibsted has soon to face, at CoE's forthcoming Foreign Ministers' Summit, on 18 May 2018, at Copenhagen, an Ambitious but also Challenging Draft Plan on how to Advance on ECHR's Reform process, initially Launched as early as since 2010, at an Exceptionally Important, Justice Ministers' Summit at Interlaken, Switzerland, (which drafted a Multi-Annual Plan up to 2019 ; See "Eurofora"s NewsReports from Interlaken at: http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/interlakenconclusions.html + http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/boillatngosinterlaken.html, etc), which includes Both States' margin of appreciation, and their Obligation to Implement ECHR's Judgements.


- He would certainly not be contradicted by the President of the Jury for the 2018 European Moot Court competition at ECHR, the Experienced CoE's former Long-Time Director of its Committee of Ministers' Service precisely for the Supervision of ECHR Judgements' Execution by its 47 Member States, (a Key-Issue), Simon Palmer himself, who, Speaking later to "Eurofora", agreed that the real value of a COE's "extensive Memory" on Human Right's issues, is to be used, not simply for the History of the Past, but much More for the sake of Present and Future vital needs in Europe.

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- In this regard, f.ex., in what might, eventually, become, Later-on, an eventual Extension of a probable "BREXIT", Palmer told us that he's Worried about a possible Risk for some in the UK Government to, perhaps, ask also to Leave CoE's PanEuropean Convention on Human Rights, probably pretexting of some more or less Controversial ECHR's Rulings about Condemned Prisoners' Right to Vote even from inside a Jail, and, much more, for its Refusal, in the Past, to accept the Expulsion of some Foreign Criminals, condemned and imprisoned, who have Committed particularly Horrible Crimes, (etc).


It's true that, in a Recent Past, f.ex., even the current British Prime Minister, Theresa May, when she served as f. Home Secretary, (i.e. Interior Minister), had reportedly Criticized some ECHR's Rulings on the above-mentioned Issues, while, at the same time, some used to point to the fact that England, which had got 1st in the World the Historic "Bill of Rights", might, eventually, manage to survive even if it were pushed to get out of COE's Human Rights' Convention, at a moment, or another, in the foreseable Future.  


- But it's also true, that even the Ideological "Father" of BREXIT, Brittish MEP Nigel Farage, President of EU Parliament's "Freedom and Direct Democracy" Group (EFDD), has already expressed to "Eurofora", in Statements made Earlier at the sidelines of an EU Summit in Brussels, that, in fact, he would personally like very much, if he became a Westminster's National MP, to eventually participâte in CoE's activities, (because it's much more about "Cooperation", than for "Integration", as he had pointed out), in the foreseable Future...


=> - At any case, all that is one more Reason, for which I am currently Focusing on Helping Projects such as that of CoE's cooperation with the European Association of Law Students (ELSA, Headquartered in Brussels) on Promoting ECHR's main Principles and case-law, a.o., Told "Eurofora" in Conclusion the 2018 President of ECHR-ELSA Competition Jury, Key Veteran CoE's Senior Officer Simon Palmer, (also Famous inside the PanEuropean Organisation as an Active Musician in its Staff's Band), greeting us with a Friendly Smile.

 

 This year, his Experience was, almost Certainly, a Decisive Factor, inter alia, also for Awarding the Prizes for Best Written Submissions to the teams from Democritus University of Thrace (Greece), the Ukrainian Catholic University, and the University of Grenoble Alpes (France, Bis : Both for the Respondent State and for the Appliquant).

 

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("Democritus"' Team with their Prof. Theodossiou.

Names which roughly Mean : "Chosen by the People", but "Given by God"...)

 

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Hu Jia's prize brings SAKHAROV's wife to "EuroFora" on murders of Journalists Politkofskaya, Gongadze and Adali :

- Elena Bonner : "All Journalists' murders must be fully investigated", without Double Standards.                                                                                    

During a special Mega-Event to celebrate 20 Years of SAKHAROV Prize for "Freedom of Thought", attributed in 2008 by EU Parliament to jailed Chinese Cyber-Dissident Hu JIA, the move was reinforced by strongly criticizing the persisting impunity in three cases of Journalists' Murders, such as POLITKOVSKAYA in Russia, GONGADZE in Ukraine, and ADALI in Turkish-occupied part of Cyprus.

Any bureaucratic doubt about whether Cyber-dissidents like Hu JIA might have, or not, a right to be protected as all Journalists must be, particularly when they take risks to search, find and publish original and critical News on issues of general interest to the society, could not resist to the emotion provoked by the message of his Wife, Zeng JINYAN spectacularly transmitted at a big screen in EU Parliament's hemicycle :

- "The most important and most interesting thing he did was to ... say the Truth :.. to write about the phenomena he observed... He never stopped Publishing.. on websites, so that the Public could learn about the reality .. and understand it.  In my view, this has been his greatest contribution", stressed the young wife of the jailed man, eager to cite also the cases of other critical journalists who faced various kinds of "harassment".

 - "Welcoming all those who have suffered for defending Human Rights", EU Parliament's President, German MEP Hans Gert POETTERING, who had invited to Strasbourg all former Sakharov prize-winners from various Countries throughout the World, said that "China needs Europe, and Europe needs China : A great nation" with which "we want to have a good relationship", "association and ..friendship". "But we are never going to stop our fight for Human Rights, and No Government can expect this from us".

    - "It's impossible  to achieve goals of Peace, if Human Rights are left out. In fact, Peace and Human Rights are intrinsequaly linked", added POETTERING.

    It's in this spirit that MEPs adopted, on Thursday, a Resolution denouncing that "the criminal
investigation and trial following the murder of (a) Journalist ...raises serious concerns with regard to transparency and respect for the rule of law", when a "brutal killing has not yet been fully investigated and solved in a satisfactory way".

    The text refered to dissident Journalist "Anna POLITOVSKAYA", a critic of Tchechen conflict, killed some years ago in Moscow, where Russian Authorities have found, arrested and are currently judging two executants, while also searching to arrest also a 3rd one, allegedly escaped in Belgium. But they have not yet found the instigators.

     Similar texts were adopted recently also on dissident Ukranian Journalist Georgiy GONGADZE's murder, for which Ukranian Authorities have at least found, arrested and condemned 2 executants to 12 and 13 Years of jail, but not yet the instigators. For that purpose, they recently accepted an International Experts team to participate to the investigations.     

But, it's only for the Murder of dissident Turkish Cypriot Journalist ADALI, in the occupied territories of Cyprus, that Turkey has NOT yet found ANYONE responsible, and even claimed recently inside CoE that it would be "impossible" to do so !    

These astonishing differences exist despite the fact that ECHR condemned alike Ukraine and Turkey with 2 Judgements on the same year : 2005, for the murders of  Journalists GONGADZE and ADALI, strong critics of Corruption in Ukraine, and of Ankara's policies on mass-influx of Turkish Settlers in the Occupied Territories of Cyprus, respectively.    

Regarless of that, CoE's Committee of Ministers, who is entrusted with the duty to supervise execution of ECHR's judgements, has just asked Ukraine's Government to reply to further questions on Gongadze's murder before March 2009, while Turkey, curiously, got a longer postponement for answering questions on Adali's murder, until June...   

A comparison of these cases, raises serious questions about Double Standards :

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On TRANSPARENCY :
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    On Gongadze's murder, CoE's body speaks even about the participation of
"an INTERNATIONAL group of Experts" in the Investigation, (f.ex. of "Tape Recordings"), accepted by Ukraine.
    On the contrary, on Adali's murder, CoE is obliged to repeatedly ask (for a 2nd
time) Turkey whether, at least, it informed the victims' Family, or not...
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- On EFFICIENCY :
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On Gongadze's murder, CoE formally "recalls that the Committee (of Ministers) ..URGED the Ukranian authorities.. to TAKE ALL NECESSARY INVESTIGATIVE STEPS TO ACHIEVE CONCRETE and VISIBLE RESULTS in the INVESTIGATION, aimed at the Identification of the INSTIGATORS and Organisers of the Murder", and "STRONGLY INVITED the Ukranian Authorities to provide information on the PROGRESS IN THE INVESTIGATION", before MARCH 2009.

But, on Adali's murder, on the contrary, CoE's body merely .. "took note" of the "arguments presented by" Cyprus, which denounce the absence of any proof of new "investigation" by Turkey. Following Turkey's own suggestion (!), it simply "noted" that there is "no limitation period" for "any new element" to "lead potentialy (sic !) to a Re-Opening of the Investigation". Without saying who might find any such "new" fact, since Turkey stoped searching... It also POSTPONED the issue until .. JUNE  !
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 - On the PUNISHMENT OF THOSE RESPONSIBLE :
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 -  On Gongadze's murder case, Ukranian Authorities already arrested and condemned, at least 2 suspects, to 12 and 13 Years of jail. And on Politkovskaya's murder at least 2 suspects are judged, and a 3rd one "wanted".

On the contrary, on Adali's murder case, the Turkish authorities simply claim that "it had not been possible to obtain new .. information .. on the basis of which criminal charges could be brought against ANY person" !...

Moreover,  a LETTER sent by Turkey ...2 Years after CoE's 2006 call to re-investigate anew Adali's murder case, is totally EMPTY of Facts ! As Cypus' Delegation denounced earlier, Turkey's Letter ONLY CLAIMS that a "New Investigation" was made without any result, but does NOT even cite ANY FACT to prove it :

F.ex.,on the crucial issue of the "MOTIVATIONS" behind Adali's murder, noted by ECHR, Turkey MERELY CLAIMS that "all allegations  were investigated; without result", but OMITS ANY FACT TO PROVE IT !..(It doesn't even remind which were these "allegations").. .

+ On ECHR's astonishment that the Turkish Occupation regime didn't produce any "BALLISTIC REPORT" on the Shots which murdered Adali, Turkey again repeats, 12 years later, that, still, even until now, "it  was not possible to obtain the BalisticReport"...

- As for the astonishing absence of key-WITNESSES' Testimonies, denounced by ECHR, Turkey agains repeats various pretexts avoiding to reveal anything, (Fex. that a person "left" the Occupied Territories  "on 2002", or that another witness was heard, but without revealing nothing of what he said, etc).

Turkey obviously "FAILS TO MEET THE CRITICISM made BY THE COURT" for lack of any efficient Investigation in Adali's case, concluded Cyprus' Government.
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Replying to our Question which COMPARED these 3 outstanding cases of "JOURNALISTS MURDERS", Adali, Gongadze and Politkovskaya, in order to avoid "Double Standards" by asking from Ukraine and Russia more than what is asked EU candidate Turkey, many European personalities were critical /

They criticised Ankara's recent claim at the CoE to stop investigating, because it would be "impossible to find anyone" responsible for the 5 bullet shots which killed Kutlu ADALI in front of his Family Home, contrary to the other two Journalists' murders, where Ukraine and Russia at least arrested the executants, searching now for the instigators :
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    - "Where was that ? In Turkish Occupied Cyprus ? WITHOUT ANY DOUBT : Any murder of Journalist should be investigated in full ! All these Murders must be investigated !", replied the famous SAKHAROV's wife, Elena BONNER to our question on Adali's case, compared to Gongadze and Politofskaya.

    Elena Bonner spoke us EXCLUSIVELY shortly after being honored by the President
of EU Parliament on the occasion of 20 Years of her husband's SAKHAROV Prize.

    A strong personality, Sakharov's wife even had to struggle against an anonymous EU staffer who, astonishingly, tried to stop her speaking when h heard our question on "Turkey" (!) : - "Please, let me translate, she continues
speaking, don't stop us !", had to cry Sakharov's daughter, (a Journalist
herself), who was translating her mothers' reply, (obliged to speak louder to
make her voice heard despite the harassment).. (= + Audio Proof !)

    Earlier, Elena Bonner also fustigated "Double Standards" at another case, on
Western countries' attitude vis a vis Kosovo and the Kurds : -F.ex. "You have
recognized a few 400.000 Kosovars as an "independent" country, but you still
deny that to 30 millions of Kurds in Turkey !", she denounced.
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    - "This (ADALI's murder) is an issue which should be pursued by the Committee
for Human Rights. That's why we have one, and it's its duty to examine cases of
Journalists' murders as the one you referred to. You should bring the case in
front of that Committee", suggested in reply to our question on Adali, EU
Parliament's President, German MEP Hans Gert POETTERING.

    - "It's impossible  to achieve goals of PEACE, if HUMAN RIGHTS are left out :
in fact, Peace and Human Rights are intrinsequaly linked", added POETTERING.
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    + "For us (European/International Federation of Journalists) it's clear :
Whenever a Journalist is Murdered, the Investigation should continue until
those Responsible are found !", replied earlier to another question on ADALI
EFJ/IFJ's Secretary General, Aidan WHITE.

    Speaking as a matter of General Principle, White asked us for "concrete data"
on the execution of ECHR's judgement on Adali case, in order to "look at it in
depth" and "make a formal statement", in comparison with the other Murdered
Journalist case, also pending at CoE's  Ministers for completing its execution,
on Ukranian Gongadze.
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     From EU Rapporteur on Human Rights, vice-President of EU Parliament Liberties' Committee, MEP Giusto CATANIA, we were told that, since there is an ECHR judgement in both Adali and Gongadge's cases, "Turkey must naturally execute the judgement and make a full and efficient investigation, until those responsible for the Journalist's murder are found and punished".

    Even if "we (Catania's "EuroLeft" Group) support Turkey's EU perspectives, this does not mean that Ankara should not behave properly. On the contrary, it means that they have to meet tough conditions, particularly on Human Rights", was added on the occasion of Adali's murder case.

    Moreover, "since you raise the issue of Mr. Adali's muder as a part of a Series of Journalist's murders, including fex. Gongadze, Politkovskaya, ao., tthen we (EU) could also act together with CoE's Commissioner on Human Rights, Thomas HAMMARBERG, it was suggested.

    - "We (EU) must step up efforts against the problem of IMPUNITY : Real Peace cannot exist without Justice",  stressed also this week at EU Parliament in Strasbourg, French Minister on Human Rights, Mrs Rama YADE.
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