

UNSpokesman/Press Director Nesirky to Eurofora on UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon trip to CoE+Paris

*Strasbourg/Angelo Marcopolo/- UNO's Secretary General Ban Ki Moon is due to focus on Arab Democracies in Strasbourg, before discussing a wider spectrum of topical issues in Paris, particularly Syria, but also several others, said in substance his Spokesman and UNO's Press Director, Martin Nesirky to "EuroFora", at the eve of his exceptional arrival in France this Sunday for a 3 Days-trip, (which exceptionaly doesn't pass via UNO's European Headquarters at nearby Geneva).


Even if it's just the 2nd time that Ban Ki Moon comes to Strasbourg, during his two successive Mandates, (see his Replies to "EuroFora"s Questions at EU Parliaments' Press Conference, on October 2010 : http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/unosgoncyprus.html ), nevertheless, reportedly, this preliminary event might not receive more Press Publicity than, perhaps, a Photo-op., and/or an eventual Read out, unless it's decided otherwise at the last minute.
(UN SG Ban Ki Moon replying to "EuroFora"s Questions at EU Parliament's Press Conference in Strasbourg on October 19, 2010. See : http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/unosgoncyprus.html )
But the main event, which is the official reason for UNO's Secretary General's visit to Strasbourg, where he was invited by the CoE in order to be the Keynote Speaker at the official opening of the 1st "World Forum for Democracy", to which he will be welcomed by CoE Parliamentary Assembly's President, French MEP Jean-Claude Mignon, together with Heads of State/Governement from Morocco and Albania (current CoE's Committee of Ministers' rotating Chair), as well as French and German Ministers of EU affairs and Finance, Cazeneuve and Schauble, respectively, added to various other Politicians, Experts, Civil Society Representatives, etc., is due to be at the Focus on Monday Morning and Noon.

Indeed, "Arab Democracies", and other such relevant, recent trends at Europe's Neighborhood, naturally included at WFD's 2012 official Agenda, are due to be one of the main issues at the table of Ban Ki Moon's public activities in Strasbourg, as his Spokesman, Martin Nesirky confirmed to "EuroFora" for this 1st part of his visit to France.

On the contrary, during his subsequent meetings with the French Foreign Minister Fabius, Prime Minister Ayrault, and President Hollande, at Paris' Quai d'Orsay, Matignon and Elysee palace, respectively, from Monday Evening up to Tuesday, before returning later-on to New York, Ban Ki Moon is expected to discuss with the French Government a longer list of Topical issues, going well beyond the obvious issue of recent developments in Syria, (and exchange of Bombs with Turkey, Al Quaida's Mass Terrorist attacks in Alepo, near the Turkish Borders, where most Entry Posts had been taken over by Rebels and the FSA hosted in Turkey until now, etc.).

+ Paris' Ban Ki Moon discussions could, indeed, include, in addition to Syria, also f.ex. Subsaharian Africa and Mali (where another Terrorist Group linked to Al-Quaeda is sucpected for Kidnapings, etc, as in Alep, in Syria : Comp. above), RDC, Sudan, etc, and various other Topical issues, as UNO Secretary General's Spokesman, Martin Nesirky, told "EuroFora".
But, as things stand at this point, Nesirky "doubts" that differend on-going issues, such as Cyprus, etc., might, eventually be discussed during UNO's Head visits to the CoE in Strasbourg, and/or to the French Government in Paris.

However, CoE's Committee of Ministers has just examined, a Week earlier in Strasbourg, for the 1st time after long postponements, the crucial issue of Greek Cypriot Refugees/Displaced Persons' Human Rights to return to their Family Homes and Ancestral Land; as well as for their Houses and Private Properties to be given back to them, after long decades of illegal usurpation in the Occupied Territories of Cyprus, held by Ankara's Army since the 1974 Military Invasion and Occupation, according to ECHR's Judgements and well-established Case-law of 1996-2002, etc. + Moreover, the EU Commission in Brussels is currently finalizing its 2012 Annual Reports on EU Enlargement and on Turkey's efforts to meet the EU Standards, where various Crucial choices, have, reportedly, to be made at the last minute before the official Pubication Day, which has been fixed for Wednesday, October 10, i.e. practically when Ban Ki Moon will have just concluded his 7 -9 October EU/CoE+Paris visits and contacts, both public and discreet...

After all, even the recent Tragic Developments on Syria, (with various Deadly Bombings at the Syro-Turkish border, Military Threats, etc), were obviously pushed to the Limelight, precisely during these crucial Days, by Turkey itself, (including by Turkish Foreign Minister Davutoglou Phoning to UNO's Secretary General at New York, etc), so that EU - Turkey related issues, (notoriously crucial for EU Citizens since the 2005 "No" to EuroReferenda in France and the Netherlands, followed by Ireland, etc., almost 1 Year before the forthoming EU Parliament Elections at 2014), don't really seem to be excluded a prioriéééééééé
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They voted to "freeze" UK Government's draft to put People in jail for 42 Days on "anti-terrorist" suspicion without charge, or they abstained. Don't they look suspect ?
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CoE's debate on UK controversy stirs PanEuropean check of anti-terror suspects' imprisonment
Former Leftists of the Sixties would boil in hot water if they heard PACE's debate on the controversial 42 days detention without charge, currently drafted by the British Government :
A "Socialist" Government, a Socialist PACE Rapporteur and a Socialist Chair of PACE's Legal Committee, opposed a .. "Conservative" amendment (supported by .. Liberals, Democrats, etc), to freeze the measure, in order to protect Citizens' Freedom, by "waiting" until CoE's Venice Committee checks its conformity with Human Rights' principles.
"Left"'s support to Conservative-Lib.Dem's criticism, wasn't enough to obtain a majority, nor to make things as they were back in the good old days, when "Left" and "Right" had a clear meaning, as "liberty" and "restrictions"...
Conservatives and most Democrats were joined by the Left in voting for the "freeze", as well as Liberal Paul Rowen, while Socialist MEP Ivan Popescu, an experienced MEP from Ukraine (PACE Member since 1996-2008) abstained. But most Socialists, added to a few Liberals and EPP's Right, voted against.
Fortunately, someone inside PACE had the wise idea to shorten the Debate for less than 1 Hour, and put it on the Agenda only at the end of an exceptionally busy day, towards the end of the Evening, when most MEPs had already gone to taste wins and foods at various Receptions all around Strasbourg's "European" area : As a result, not even 42 MEPs weren't present..
Socialist Lord Tomlinson accused the leaders of the PanEuropean Assembly, in its highest body : the "Bureau", to "lack wisdom" by deciding to hold a Debate on an issue that neither the Socialist Chair of the Legal Committee, nor its Socialist "reluctant Rapporteur", did "not want to do", ...
Finally, everybody (critics and supporters alike) was happy to agree, in substance, that the controversial measure "may" gravely violate Human Rights, and therefore, PACE asked Legal Experts of Venice Commission to check UK Government''s plans.
But this might take more than .. 42 Days to do, since PACE's Rapporteur asked the Experts to enlarge their study in a PanEuropean comparison of all that is happening on "anti-terrorism" legislation in 47 CoE Member Countries, including Russia, Turkey and Azerbaidjan..
Bad lack : "The existing 28 days’ detention without charge in the UK is, in comparison with other CoE member countries, one of the most extreme : In Turkey, the period is 7,5 days, in France 6 days, in Russia 5 days, and in .. the U.S. and Canada just 2 and 1 days respectively", denounced Democrat MEP Ms WOLDSETH from Norway..
"Numerous respected human rights organisations, including Liberty and Human Rights Watch, have expressed serious concern" "The proposed legislation ...could easily lead to extensive abuses. ...Detention for 42 days means six weeks in which one is taken away from one’s family, friends, home and livelihood only to be let off without being charged. That will destroy lives and isolate communities", she added.
- "3 years ago, the UK Government sought to increase the period of pre-charge detention from 14 days to 90 days. Not long before that, it had been only 7 days. There was a vigorous debate ...and a ...compromise was reached of 28 days. We have to ask whether there are proper safeguards in place to extend the period to 42 days. I suggest that there are fatal flaws", reminded British Conservative Clappison.
- "What sort of society holds someone in detention for 42 days and does not have to tell the person who is in prison why they are there, or explain the suspicions that arose and led to their detention? What sort of society believes that that is the way to treat its citizens? That is an appalling injustice, ...A 42-day detention period will not make the UK safer. Instead, it will be the first step to giving in to terrorists; it is saying that we are prepared to sacrifice our democratic rights and the principles for which we have stood for centuries", criticized British Liberal Michael Hanckock
"Comments made ...by Norwegian delegates are unfortunate", replied British Socialist MEP Ms.Curtis-Thomas, accusing them to "besmirch the reputation of our police force, which is one of the Best in the World", as she said, believing that "there are significant safeguards ...to ensure that individuals are not subjected to unlawful detention"
PACE "has serious doubts whether ...the draft legislation are in conformity with the ...case-law of the European Court of Human Rights. A lack of ..safeguards may lead to arbitrariness, resulting in breaches of ... liberty and ...right to a fair trial". PACE "is particularly concerned that: ..the judge ..may not be in a position to examine whether there exist reasonable grounds for suspecting that the arrested person has committed an offence;"; that "... representation by a lawyer may be inappropriately restricted or delayed;" that "information on the grounds for suspicion of a person ...may be unduly withheld.. ;" that this "may give rise to arrests without the intention to charge;", and; in general, that "prolonged detention without proper information on the grounds for arrest may constitute inhuman treatment", says Klaus De Vries' Report, adopted with 29 votes against zero.
Records don't say if it took him 42 Days to draft his Report, but, at least, he knew why...
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