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CFE Panel 4: EUCom VP Suica Leans towards EF Project (Dialogue Citizens-Politicians Before Decisions

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venerdì, 15 ottobre 2021

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*Strasbourg/EU Parliament/Angelo Marcopolo/- Just After Welcoming Citizens Participants at the 4rth and Last Panel (on "Europe in the World") Before an Important Plenary due to Start Discussing Citizens' Initial Proposals for the Future of Europe Next Week, EU Commission's vice-President for Democracy, Dubravka Suica, suddenly came Closer than ever, Until Now,  to "Eurofora"'s Project for "Dialogue" between EU Citizens and Politicians, Before Decisions Affecting their Lives and/or Society at large !

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Indeed, Speaking to Accredited Journalists, as "Eurofora a.o., Soon After EU Parliament's Coordinator for the Conference on Europe's Futur, Guy Verhofstadt, former President of  "Liberal" MEPs and Prime Minister of Belgium, (Cf. Verhofstadt's Reply to "EF" Question, previously, at: ..., etc), had Announced that, this "Unique" "Combination of Both Representative" and "Participatory Democracy", in a "2nd Track", at "a PanEuropean Level", was "Requested from Citizens", Already "from the 1st Panel", to be "Made a Permanent Process", and this "Could be among the Final Conclusions of the Conference", Suica Revealed that, in fact, "We (EU) Want to Make European Citizens Part of a European Policy-Drafting Mechanism", as she Characteristicaly stressed.

- "We (EU) Want to Listen to them (Citizens), All the Time", and "Take into Consideration their Ideas and Problems, While Drafting our Policies", EU Commission's vice-President on Democracy underlined, in this regard.  In  Fact, this is "Participatory Democracy and Deliberative (Decision-Making Process) Democracy", taken Together, which "are New Exercises, and they Can Help us a lot", she explained*

*A First Idea towards making Citizens' Dialogue with Politicians before Decisions a Permanent Reality was accepted by French President Macron, agreeing with a relevant proposal by "Eurofora" (Based on the existing EU's Lisbon Treaty), as Early as, Already since April 2018, at Saint-Dié, (i.e. just a Day After he had Inaugurated the 1st EU Citizens' Consultatin at nearby Epinal, (See: http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/macronforcitizensdebatesalsoafter2019.html, + http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/macronlauncheseucitizenconsultations.html, etc).

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    => In Consequence, "there is No Coming Back : This Conference (CFE) Will Deepen European Culture, From the Roots Up !", and Opens up a truly European Space !", Suica stressed  earlier in the Plenary, (apparently using Terms familiar from German Philosopher Jurgen Habermas, of Nearby Frankfurt, nowadays in Bavaria, with his Landmark, premonitory Book on "The Structural Changes of the Public Space", i.e. Area for Collective Discussions).

    >>> Indeed, "We (EU) Need" to "Bring Citizens into the Heart of European Decision-Making", she Emphasized.

    Already, "thanks to the Conference on the Future of Europe", "Each Citizen has a Chance to Participate in a PanEuropean Discussion, on Issues that Matters to them". "From Ireland to Malta, from Latvia to Lisbon,..., you Can Exchange your Ideas, have your Voice Heard, and Stimulate Change". "This brings Not Only the Right to Participate, But Also the Possibility to Create Ideas". And "We Want to Listen to them", to "Take into Account" their "Ideas and Contributions", Suica Ambitiously Vowed. "Europe not only wants to Listen to you.... EU Commision is Ready to Follow up Whatever is Agreed by this Conference, (as von Leyen stressed).

- -"It might take us a bit More Time to get Started, But we (EU) are Able to Find Solutions" that work, she boasted. -"Because we want a Union which really Belongs to its People. That it can Inspire, and Protect Everyone of us".

    - This "Euopean Dream" has Already Delivered : Peace, Prosperity, Openess, Equality of Rights, and Our System of Values. But we canNot Guarantee that it will be assumed for Ever, and that it will rest easily...  In Fact, "Our Union has been Disputed, and is being Challenged, Both Internally, and Externally". But, also, "Whenever the Righs of an Individual Person are Denied, our European Dream is Damaged".

    => Therefore, "It's Important that we Regularly Assess Where we Are, and Where we want to Go"...."Take a Time to Look at the Hights and Lows we have come Together". This is also a Time to "See Where we can Expect Better f", Suica welcomed good-faith Criticism, with Lucidity.

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    However, it's also a Fact that Nowhere Emerged yet a Crystal-clear and fully-fledged EU Citizens' Right to be Informed, Heard, and Receive Timely Replies to their Critical Observations, which should be Sufficient, Real and Legal, concerning any Proportionate Restriction of their Legitimate private Interests motivated by a General Interest Aim, (all this being placed under Control of a Judge, able to Cancel any Controversial Administrative Measure, eventualy does Not meet all those Conditions), as it should be done according to that kind of "Dialogue", between Citizens and Politicians Before Decisions Affecting their Lives, and/or Society at large, according to "Eurofora"s Proposal : See ...,, etc).

    So that, until this is unequivoqualy done, a Critical Reserve is obviously required from "Eurofora"'s part, on this Key Point.

    +For the Rest, and, Particularly, as it concerns the overall Methods used into Treating the Way that each Pannel of 200 Radomly Chosen Citizens are Consulted by EU Institutions on their Wishes vis a vis the EU Decision-Making process, and certain Major Key Topical Issues on EU's foreseable Future, (Economy, Democracy, Environment, and Foreign Policy), a Surprizing Big Change was Observed by "Eurofora" Today :

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    - Indeed, instead of only One (1) special Room, Usualy reserved into a Discreet and Remote Location of EU Parliament's Building, for those "Moderators", "Experts", "Secretariat", "Facilitators", and "Observers", etc., who were used to Handle Citizens previously, on the Contrary, Now, there were as Much as ... Seven (7) such special Rooms, reserved to that purpose, (in this Pannel for Foreign Policy and Migration), i.e. a Spectacular Augmentation of X 700 % !...

    As usual, "Eurofora" will Examine Further such Organisational Issues Tomorow, on Saturday, i.e. the Most "Busy" Day.

 

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Hu Jia's prize brings SAKHAROV's wife to "EuroFora" on murders of Journalists Politkofskaya, Gongadze and Adali :

- Elena Bonner : "All Journalists' murders must be fully investigated", without Double Standards.                                                                                    

During a special Mega-Event to celebrate 20 Years of SAKHAROV Prize for "Freedom of Thought", attributed in 2008 by EU Parliament to jailed Chinese Cyber-Dissident Hu JIA, the move was reinforced by strongly criticizing the persisting impunity in three cases of Journalists' Murders, such as POLITKOVSKAYA in Russia, GONGADZE in Ukraine, and ADALI in Turkish-occupied part of Cyprus.

Any bureaucratic doubt about whether Cyber-dissidents like Hu JIA might have, or not, a right to be protected as all Journalists must be, particularly when they take risks to search, find and publish original and critical News on issues of general interest to the society, could not resist to the emotion provoked by the message of his Wife, Zeng JINYAN spectacularly transmitted at a big screen in EU Parliament's hemicycle :

- "The most important and most interesting thing he did was to ... say the Truth :.. to write about the phenomena he observed... He never stopped Publishing.. on websites, so that the Public could learn about the reality .. and understand it.  In my view, this has been his greatest contribution", stressed the young wife of the jailed man, eager to cite also the cases of other critical journalists who faced various kinds of "harassment".

 - "Welcoming all those who have suffered for defending Human Rights", EU Parliament's President, German MEP Hans Gert POETTERING, who had invited to Strasbourg all former Sakharov prize-winners from various Countries throughout the World, said that "China needs Europe, and Europe needs China : A great nation" with which "we want to have a good relationship", "association and ..friendship". "But we are never going to stop our fight for Human Rights, and No Government can expect this from us".

    - "It's impossible  to achieve goals of Peace, if Human Rights are left out. In fact, Peace and Human Rights are intrinsequaly linked", added POETTERING.

    It's in this spirit that MEPs adopted, on Thursday, a Resolution denouncing that "the criminal
investigation and trial following the murder of (a) Journalist ...raises serious concerns with regard to transparency and respect for the rule of law", when a "brutal killing has not yet been fully investigated and solved in a satisfactory way".

    The text refered to dissident Journalist "Anna POLITOVSKAYA", a critic of Tchechen conflict, killed some years ago in Moscow, where Russian Authorities have found, arrested and are currently judging two executants, while also searching to arrest also a 3rd one, allegedly escaped in Belgium. But they have not yet found the instigators.

     Similar texts were adopted recently also on dissident Ukranian Journalist Georgiy GONGADZE's murder, for which Ukranian Authorities have at least found, arrested and condemned 2 executants to 12 and 13 Years of jail, but not yet the instigators. For that purpose, they recently accepted an International Experts team to participate to the investigations.     

But, it's only for the Murder of dissident Turkish Cypriot Journalist ADALI, in the occupied territories of Cyprus, that Turkey has NOT yet found ANYONE responsible, and even claimed recently inside CoE that it would be "impossible" to do so !    

These astonishing differences exist despite the fact that ECHR condemned alike Ukraine and Turkey with 2 Judgements on the same year : 2005, for the murders of  Journalists GONGADZE and ADALI, strong critics of Corruption in Ukraine, and of Ankara's policies on mass-influx of Turkish Settlers in the Occupied Territories of Cyprus, respectively.    

Regarless of that, CoE's Committee of Ministers, who is entrusted with the duty to supervise execution of ECHR's judgements, has just asked Ukraine's Government to reply to further questions on Gongadze's murder before March 2009, while Turkey, curiously, got a longer postponement for answering questions on Adali's murder, until June...   

A comparison of these cases, raises serious questions about Double Standards :

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On TRANSPARENCY :
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    On Gongadze's murder, CoE's body speaks even about the participation of
"an INTERNATIONAL group of Experts" in the Investigation, (f.ex. of "Tape Recordings"), accepted by Ukraine.
    On the contrary, on Adali's murder, CoE is obliged to repeatedly ask (for a 2nd
time) Turkey whether, at least, it informed the victims' Family, or not...
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- On EFFICIENCY :
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On Gongadze's murder, CoE formally "recalls that the Committee (of Ministers) ..URGED the Ukranian authorities.. to TAKE ALL NECESSARY INVESTIGATIVE STEPS TO ACHIEVE CONCRETE and VISIBLE RESULTS in the INVESTIGATION, aimed at the Identification of the INSTIGATORS and Organisers of the Murder", and "STRONGLY INVITED the Ukranian Authorities to provide information on the PROGRESS IN THE INVESTIGATION", before MARCH 2009.

But, on Adali's murder, on the contrary, CoE's body merely .. "took note" of the "arguments presented by" Cyprus, which denounce the absence of any proof of new "investigation" by Turkey. Following Turkey's own suggestion (!), it simply "noted" that there is "no limitation period" for "any new element" to "lead potentialy (sic !) to a Re-Opening of the Investigation". Without saying who might find any such "new" fact, since Turkey stoped searching... It also POSTPONED the issue until .. JUNE  !
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 - On the PUNISHMENT OF THOSE RESPONSIBLE :
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 -  On Gongadze's murder case, Ukranian Authorities already arrested and condemned, at least 2 suspects, to 12 and 13 Years of jail. And on Politkovskaya's murder at least 2 suspects are judged, and a 3rd one "wanted".

On the contrary, on Adali's murder case, the Turkish authorities simply claim that "it had not been possible to obtain new .. information .. on the basis of which criminal charges could be brought against ANY person" !...

Moreover,  a LETTER sent by Turkey ...2 Years after CoE's 2006 call to re-investigate anew Adali's murder case, is totally EMPTY of Facts ! As Cypus' Delegation denounced earlier, Turkey's Letter ONLY CLAIMS that a "New Investigation" was made without any result, but does NOT even cite ANY FACT to prove it :

F.ex.,on the crucial issue of the "MOTIVATIONS" behind Adali's murder, noted by ECHR, Turkey MERELY CLAIMS that "all allegations  were investigated; without result", but OMITS ANY FACT TO PROVE IT !..(It doesn't even remind which were these "allegations").. .

+ On ECHR's astonishment that the Turkish Occupation regime didn't produce any "BALLISTIC REPORT" on the Shots which murdered Adali, Turkey again repeats, 12 years later, that, still, even until now, "it  was not possible to obtain the BalisticReport"...

- As for the astonishing absence of key-WITNESSES' Testimonies, denounced by ECHR, Turkey agains repeats various pretexts avoiding to reveal anything, (Fex. that a person "left" the Occupied Territories  "on 2002", or that another witness was heard, but without revealing nothing of what he said, etc).

Turkey obviously "FAILS TO MEET THE CRITICISM made BY THE COURT" for lack of any efficient Investigation in Adali's case, concluded Cyprus' Government.
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Replying to our Question which COMPARED these 3 outstanding cases of "JOURNALISTS MURDERS", Adali, Gongadze and Politkovskaya, in order to avoid "Double Standards" by asking from Ukraine and Russia more than what is asked EU candidate Turkey, many European personalities were critical /

They criticised Ankara's recent claim at the CoE to stop investigating, because it would be "impossible to find anyone" responsible for the 5 bullet shots which killed Kutlu ADALI in front of his Family Home, contrary to the other two Journalists' murders, where Ukraine and Russia at least arrested the executants, searching now for the instigators :
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    - "Where was that ? In Turkish Occupied Cyprus ? WITHOUT ANY DOUBT : Any murder of Journalist should be investigated in full ! All these Murders must be investigated !", replied the famous SAKHAROV's wife, Elena BONNER to our question on Adali's case, compared to Gongadze and Politofskaya.

    Elena Bonner spoke us EXCLUSIVELY shortly after being honored by the President
of EU Parliament on the occasion of 20 Years of her husband's SAKHAROV Prize.

    A strong personality, Sakharov's wife even had to struggle against an anonymous EU staffer who, astonishingly, tried to stop her speaking when h heard our question on "Turkey" (!) : - "Please, let me translate, she continues
speaking, don't stop us !", had to cry Sakharov's daughter, (a Journalist
herself), who was translating her mothers' reply, (obliged to speak louder to
make her voice heard despite the harassment).. (= + Audio Proof !)

    Earlier, Elena Bonner also fustigated "Double Standards" at another case, on
Western countries' attitude vis a vis Kosovo and the Kurds : -F.ex. "You have
recognized a few 400.000 Kosovars as an "independent" country, but you still
deny that to 30 millions of Kurds in Turkey !", she denounced.
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    - "This (ADALI's murder) is an issue which should be pursued by the Committee
for Human Rights. That's why we have one, and it's its duty to examine cases of
Journalists' murders as the one you referred to. You should bring the case in
front of that Committee", suggested in reply to our question on Adali, EU
Parliament's President, German MEP Hans Gert POETTERING.

    - "It's impossible  to achieve goals of PEACE, if HUMAN RIGHTS are left out :
in fact, Peace and Human Rights are intrinsequaly linked", added POETTERING.
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    + "For us (European/International Federation of Journalists) it's clear :
Whenever a Journalist is Murdered, the Investigation should continue until
those Responsible are found !", replied earlier to another question on ADALI
EFJ/IFJ's Secretary General, Aidan WHITE.

    Speaking as a matter of General Principle, White asked us for "concrete data"
on the execution of ECHR's judgement on Adali case, in order to "look at it in
depth" and "make a formal statement", in comparison with the other Murdered
Journalist case, also pending at CoE's  Ministers for completing its execution,
on Ukranian Gongadze.
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     From EU Rapporteur on Human Rights, vice-President of EU Parliament Liberties' Committee, MEP Giusto CATANIA, we were told that, since there is an ECHR judgement in both Adali and Gongadge's cases, "Turkey must naturally execute the judgement and make a full and efficient investigation, until those responsible for the Journalist's murder are found and punished".

    Even if "we (Catania's "EuroLeft" Group) support Turkey's EU perspectives, this does not mean that Ankara should not behave properly. On the contrary, it means that they have to meet tough conditions, particularly on Human Rights", was added on the occasion of Adali's murder case.

    Moreover, "since you raise the issue of Mr. Adali's muder as a part of a Series of Journalist's murders, including fex. Gongadze, Politkovskaya, ao., tthen we (EU) could also act together with CoE's Commissioner on Human Rights, Thomas HAMMARBERG, it was suggested.

    - "We (EU) must step up efforts against the problem of IMPUNITY : Real Peace cannot exist without Justice",  stressed also this week at EU Parliament in Strasbourg, French Minister on Human Rights, Mrs Rama YADE.
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