

Popular Referendum on Homosexuals and Mariage+Children Adoption: + 63% NO in Slovenia (EU) +Quorum !

*Strasbourg/Angelo Marcopolo/- A Popular Referendum on the Controversial, and Worldwide "Hot" Issue Nowadays (See Infra), of accepting, or not, to extend Marriage to Same Sex couples and to Submit Children to Homosexuals' power under cover of "Adoption", was Strongly Rejected by an Absolute and Qualified Majority of almost 2/3 of People in EU Member Country Slovenia this Sunday, with More than 63,5% "NO" against only 36,5% Yes, (according to 96% of Votes checked).

The Move had been Initiated by 40.000 Signatures of Citizens calling for a Popular Initiative Referendum against a Controversial Law, Tabled by a Government of Left/Liberals and Adopted by a Parliament, which had just imposed Controversial "Same Sex Marriage" and even the Submission of Children to Homosexuals' Power under Pretext of "Adoption".

It's mainly Agaist This Crucial Point that had Focused Slovenian People's Opposition, led by a Movement self-Titled "Children are at Stake", (according also to "EuroFora"s relevant Critical Observatios from the Start on this Hard Fought Nowadays BioEthical Issue, given particularly the Risk for Natural Births to be Circumvented by various Artificial Methods of Procreation of Human Beings, Dominated by Tehcnocratic Lobbies with Shady Interests, provoking obvious Dangers for all Humankind, that Natural Family, formed by a Man and Woman, normaly Help Prevent).
This 2015 Slovenian Referendum had to Obtain a Quorum of at leat 342.000 Voters in order to have Legaly Binding Force, and it Succeeded to have About 390.000.
(Slovenian pro-Natural Family Head Activist Intellectual Ales Primc, obviously goes Natural..)
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Before that, Back on 25 March 2012, a Previous Referendum against an Earlier Attempt by another Government of the Left to Give to Homosexuals all rights of Marriage, except Adoption of Children Born by Other People, had Won an Absolute (but Not Yet Qualified) Majority with 54,5% of the Votes, and 30,5 of Registered Voters' Participation Turnout. Nevertheless, 3 Years later, on March 2015, a Left/Liberals Governing Coalition had Adopted an even More Aggressive LBGT Lobby's desiderata, f.ex. Adding also full Adoption of Children by Homosexuals, which has just been Refused anew by Slovenian People.
In the MeanTime, any Implementation of that Contested Law had been "Freezed" until Today's Vote of the Popular Referendum, whose Outcome was a Valid "No" Vote, After which, any Slovenian Government, reportedly, has to Wait for at least during a Year, before, eventualy, Attempting again any Deviant Move.
The Dissidents had been reportedly supported mainly by the Center-Right Opposition Parties and the Christian Church, which was Congratulated by Pope Francis "for its Commitment in favour of the Family", earlier This Week, at the same time that he Called the Government of the Country to "Support the Family, Basic Structure of Social Life".
Meanwhile, Earlier This Year (2/2015) another, Similar Popular Referendum in Slovakia (EU), had gathered almost 1 Million Votes in favour of Natural Family, with Results as High as about 93% and 95% when it comes to Refuse Extending Marriage to Homosexuals and Submitting Other People's Children to the Power of Homosexuals through "Adoption". But it didn't get Legal Effects because both of a Boycott by LBGT a.o. Lobbies and a Too High Threshhold for Participation required by the Constitution of that Country, (More than 50% of Registered Voters !). However, a Protection of Natural Family had already been Supported by a Succesful previous Amendment to the Slovak Constitution, obtained almost a Year Earlier (2014).
Previously, on December 2013, a Popular Constitutional Referendum in Croatia (EU) in favour of the Natural Family, between a Man and a Woman, had Succeded with More than + 66 % Votes "Yes", and a 38 % Participation (i.e. almost 1,5 Millions of People), despite Opposal by a Government of the Left and Most Media of the Establishment.
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French People had staged Historic Big Public Demonstrations many times from 2013, and still Continued with various New Forms of Expression of Popular Reject also through 2014, to vainly Ask for such a Referendum also in France, against some Socialist Ministers' stuborn Push to impose at any price the Conntroversial and Unpopular Same Sex Mariage, Adoptions by Homosexuals added, and even Genetic Manipulations of Human Embryos, almost at the Same Time, in a curiously Hasty and unusualy Brutal way, which Started to Provoke even Council of Europe's Official Reactions on mainly on April 2013 but also on September 2015. (The need felt by France to Exceptionaly Support Mali's regime against Extremist Islamist Terrorists' Attacks from Januray 2014, followed by a series of unprecedented Terrorist Aggressions against Civilians Since January 2015 has Hindered any more Popular Demonstrations on such and other related BioEthical Issues of growing Importance in Modern Societies).

Shortly afterwards, Russia, Belorussia, Kazakstan, and certain African, (as Uganda, etc), as well as Asian (f.ex. China, Vietnam, etc. who ask Guarantees that their Children won't be given to Homosexuals), or APC Countries introduced Legal Safeguards Excluding International Adoptions of their Children by France and any other Country which has Provoked a Risk for Children to be Given to Homosexuals under Adoption pretext.
Meanwhile, a Controversial Referendum in Ireland (accepted by almost all Old Parties of the Establishment, pushed by a USA-Dominated Irish Diaspora), imposed Same Sex Mariage, Despite the Fact that a very Large Majority of Irish People either massively Abstained or Voted "No", so that Only a 1/3 Minority voted "Yes"...(See: http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/irelandreferendumboostsnaturalfamilypopularmovement.html).
However, the PanEuropean Convention of Human Rights, which prevails in 47 CoE Member Countries, Still Keeps, for More almost 63 Years (9/1953 - 2015+), its Article 12, wich Recognizes a "Right to Marry and to Found a Family" Only Between "Men and Women", (despite a Controversial Individual ECrtHR Ruling which, a Few Years Ago, even if it had to Admit that Fact, Nevertheless, undertook an Unprecedented Attempt to Skip the PanEuropean Convention's Explicit Text, in the Particular Case that it examined. Something which, obviously, Can Legally be Overturned, at Any Moment, by an Opposite ECHR's Judgement, at anOther Case in the Future, since Only Legal Texts Remain, while Judges' Case-law Can always Change).
But, as Now in Slovenia, in Europe, (after Slovakia, Croatia, Hungary, as well as Latvia, Lithuania, Bulgaria and Poland, etc), also Many American Federated States, in Recent Yearsn, have Adopted Popular Referenda Confirming the Traditional Prohibition of controversial Same Sex Marriage, and a great Number among them even made it Explicitly Clear in their own Constitutions that they still Recognize only Natural Marriages between a Man and a Woman.
However, a series of very Controversial Rulings by Judges Appointed a the US Supreme Court by Outgoing US President Barack Hussein Obama, practicaly Smashed almost all those Popular Referenda, (often Only by 1 such Unelected Judge's Vote more or less !).
Reacting, almost All current opposition Republican (GOP) Party's Candidates to the forthcoming US Presidential Election of 2016 have Strongly Vowed to Counter all such Obama's Controversial and Unpopular moves, so that Protection of Natural Family can be Restored, in one way or another.
Another Conservative Politician who had initially promissed to Cancel controversial and UnPopular "Same Sex Marriage" if he was Elected, But Afterwards Failed to do so, former Canadian Prime Minister Harper, has just been Severely Punished by Canadian People who Massively Voted, in the latest National Elections, Against his Untrustworthy, Outgoing team...
(Harper with Wife and Obama at the latest G7 Summit,
or was it the Other Way round ?...)
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Hu Jia's prize brings SAKHAROV's wife to "EuroFora" on murders of Journalists Politkofskaya, Gongadze and Adali :
- Elena Bonner : "All Journalists' murders must be fully investigated", without Double Standards.
During a special Mega-Event to celebrate 20 Years of SAKHAROV Prize for "Freedom of Thought", attributed in 2008 by EU Parliament to jailed Chinese Cyber-Dissident Hu JIA, the move was reinforced by strongly criticizing the persisting impunity in three cases of Journalists' Murders, such as POLITKOVSKAYA in Russia, GONGADZE in Ukraine, and ADALI in Turkish-occupied part of Cyprus.
Any bureaucratic doubt about whether Cyber-dissidents like Hu JIA might have, or not, a right to be protected as all Journalists must be, particularly when they take risks to search, find and publish original and critical News on issues of general interest to the society, could not resist to the emotion provoked by the message of his Wife, Zeng JINYAN spectacularly transmitted at a big screen in EU Parliament's hemicycle :
- "The most important and most interesting thing he did was to ... say the Truth :.. to write about the phenomena he observed... He never stopped Publishing.. on websites, so that the Public could learn about the reality .. and understand it. In my view, this has been his greatest contribution", stressed the young wife of the jailed man, eager to cite also the cases of other critical journalists who faced various kinds of "harassment".
- "Welcoming all those who have suffered for defending Human Rights", EU Parliament's President, German MEP Hans Gert POETTERING, who had invited to Strasbourg all former Sakharov prize-winners from various Countries throughout the World, said that "China needs Europe, and Europe needs China : A great nation" with which "we want to have a good relationship", "association and ..friendship". "But we are never going to stop our fight for Human Rights, and No Government can expect this from us".
- "It's impossible to achieve goals of Peace, if Human Rights are left out. In fact, Peace and Human Rights are intrinsequaly linked", added POETTERING.
It's in this spirit that MEPs adopted, on Thursday, a Resolution denouncing that "the criminal
investigation and trial following the murder of (a) Journalist ...raises serious concerns with regard to transparency and respect for the rule of law", when a "brutal killing has not yet been fully investigated and solved in a satisfactory way".
The text refered to dissident Journalist "Anna POLITOVSKAYA", a critic of Tchechen conflict, killed some years ago in Moscow, where Russian Authorities have found, arrested and are currently judging two executants, while also searching to arrest also a 3rd one, allegedly escaped in Belgium. But they have not yet found the instigators.
Similar texts were adopted recently also on dissident Ukranian Journalist Georgiy GONGADZE's murder, for which Ukranian Authorities have at least found, arrested and condemned 2 executants to 12 and 13 Years of jail, but not yet the instigators. For that purpose, they recently accepted an International Experts team to participate to the investigations.
But, it's only for the Murder of dissident Turkish Cypriot Journalist ADALI, in the occupied territories of Cyprus, that Turkey has NOT yet found ANYONE responsible, and even claimed recently inside CoE that it would be "impossible" to do so !
These astonishing differences exist despite the fact that ECHR condemned alike Ukraine and Turkey with 2 Judgements on the same year : 2005, for the murders of Journalists GONGADZE and ADALI, strong critics of Corruption in Ukraine, and of Ankara's policies on mass-influx of Turkish Settlers in the Occupied Territories of Cyprus, respectively.
Regarless of that, CoE's Committee of Ministers, who is entrusted with the duty to supervise execution of ECHR's judgements, has just asked Ukraine's Government to reply to further questions on Gongadze's murder before March 2009, while Turkey, curiously, got a longer postponement for answering questions on Adali's murder, until June...
A comparison of these cases, raises serious questions about Double Standards :
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On TRANSPARENCY :
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On Gongadze's murder, CoE's body speaks even about the participation of
"an INTERNATIONAL group of Experts" in the Investigation, (f.ex. of "Tape Recordings"), accepted by Ukraine.
On the contrary, on Adali's murder, CoE is obliged to repeatedly ask (for a 2nd
time) Turkey whether, at least, it informed the victims' Family, or not...
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- On EFFICIENCY :
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On Gongadze's murder, CoE formally "recalls that the Committee (of Ministers) ..URGED the Ukranian authorities.. to TAKE ALL NECESSARY INVESTIGATIVE STEPS TO ACHIEVE CONCRETE and VISIBLE RESULTS in the INVESTIGATION, aimed at the Identification of the INSTIGATORS and Organisers of the Murder", and "STRONGLY INVITED the Ukranian Authorities to provide information on the PROGRESS IN THE INVESTIGATION", before MARCH 2009.
But, on Adali's murder, on the contrary, CoE's body merely .. "took note" of the "arguments presented by" Cyprus, which denounce the absence of any proof of new "investigation" by Turkey. Following Turkey's own suggestion (!), it simply "noted" that there is "no limitation period" for "any new element" to "lead potentialy (sic !) to a Re-Opening of the Investigation". Without saying who might find any such "new" fact, since Turkey stoped searching... It also POSTPONED the issue until .. JUNE !
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- On the PUNISHMENT OF THOSE RESPONSIBLE :
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- On Gongadze's murder case, Ukranian Authorities already arrested and condemned, at least 2 suspects, to 12 and 13 Years of jail. And on Politkovskaya's murder at least 2 suspects are judged, and a 3rd one "wanted".
On the contrary, on Adali's murder case, the Turkish authorities simply claim that "it had not been possible to obtain new .. information .. on the basis of which criminal charges could be brought against ANY person" !...
Moreover, a LETTER sent by Turkey ...2 Years after CoE's 2006 call to re-investigate anew Adali's murder case, is totally EMPTY of Facts ! As Cypus' Delegation denounced earlier, Turkey's Letter ONLY CLAIMS that a "New Investigation" was made without any result, but does NOT even cite ANY FACT to prove it :
F.ex.,on the crucial issue of the "MOTIVATIONS" behind Adali's murder, noted by ECHR, Turkey MERELY CLAIMS that "all allegations were investigated; without result", but OMITS ANY FACT TO PROVE IT !..(It doesn't even remind which were these "allegations").. .
+ On ECHR's astonishment that the Turkish Occupation regime didn't produce any "BALLISTIC REPORT" on the Shots which murdered Adali, Turkey again repeats, 12 years later, that, still, even until now, "it was not possible to obtain the BalisticReport"...
- As for the astonishing absence of key-WITNESSES' Testimonies, denounced by ECHR, Turkey agains repeats various pretexts avoiding to reveal anything, (Fex. that a person "left" the Occupied Territories "on 2002", or that another witness was heard, but without revealing nothing of what he said, etc).
Turkey obviously "FAILS TO MEET THE CRITICISM made BY THE COURT" for lack of any efficient Investigation in Adali's case, concluded Cyprus' Government.
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Replying to our Question which COMPARED these 3 outstanding cases of "JOURNALISTS MURDERS", Adali, Gongadze and Politkovskaya, in order to avoid "Double Standards" by asking from Ukraine and Russia more than what is asked EU candidate Turkey, many European personalities were critical /
They criticised Ankara's recent claim at the CoE to stop investigating, because it would be "impossible to find anyone" responsible for the 5 bullet shots which killed Kutlu ADALI in front of his Family Home, contrary to the other two Journalists' murders, where Ukraine and Russia at least arrested the executants, searching now for the instigators :
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- "Where was that ? In Turkish Occupied Cyprus ? WITHOUT ANY DOUBT : Any murder of Journalist should be investigated in full ! All these Murders must be investigated !", replied the famous SAKHAROV's wife, Elena BONNER to our question on Adali's case, compared to Gongadze and Politofskaya.
Elena Bonner spoke us EXCLUSIVELY shortly after being honored by the President
of EU Parliament on the occasion of 20 Years of her husband's SAKHAROV Prize.
A strong personality, Sakharov's wife even had to struggle against an anonymous EU staffer who, astonishingly, tried to stop her speaking when h heard our question on "Turkey" (!) : - "Please, let me translate, she continues
speaking, don't stop us !", had to cry Sakharov's daughter, (a Journalist
herself), who was translating her mothers' reply, (obliged to speak louder to
make her voice heard despite the harassment).. (= + Audio Proof !)
Earlier, Elena Bonner also fustigated "Double Standards" at another case, on
Western countries' attitude vis a vis Kosovo and the Kurds : -F.ex. "You have
recognized a few 400.000 Kosovars as an "independent" country, but you still
deny that to 30 millions of Kurds in Turkey !", she denounced.
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- "This (ADALI's murder) is an issue which should be pursued by the Committee
for Human Rights. That's why we have one, and it's its duty to examine cases of
Journalists' murders as the one you referred to. You should bring the case in
front of that Committee", suggested in reply to our question on Adali, EU
Parliament's President, German MEP Hans Gert POETTERING.
- "It's impossible to achieve goals of PEACE, if HUMAN RIGHTS are left out :
in fact, Peace and Human Rights are intrinsequaly linked", added POETTERING.
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+ "For us (European/International Federation of Journalists) it's clear :
Whenever a Journalist is Murdered, the Investigation should continue until
those Responsible are found !", replied earlier to another question on ADALI
EFJ/IFJ's Secretary General, Aidan WHITE.
Speaking as a matter of General Principle, White asked us for "concrete data"
on the execution of ECHR's judgement on Adali case, in order to "look at it in
depth" and "make a formal statement", in comparison with the other Murdered
Journalist case, also pending at CoE's Ministers for completing its execution,
on Ukranian Gongadze.
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From EU Rapporteur on Human Rights, vice-President of EU Parliament Liberties' Committee, MEP Giusto CATANIA, we were told that, since there is an ECHR judgement in both Adali and Gongadge's cases, "Turkey must naturally execute the judgement and make a full and efficient investigation, until those responsible for the Journalist's murder are found and punished".
Even if "we (Catania's "EuroLeft" Group) support Turkey's EU perspectives, this does not mean that Ankara should not behave properly. On the contrary, it means that they have to meet tough conditions, particularly on Human Rights", was added on the occasion of Adali's murder case.
Moreover, "since you raise the issue of Mr. Adali's muder as a part of a Series of Journalist's murders, including fex. Gongadze, Politkovskaya, ao., tthen we (EU) could also act together with CoE's Commissioner on Human Rights, Thomas HAMMARBERG, it was suggested.
- "We (EU) must step up efforts against the problem of IMPUNITY : Real Peace cannot exist without Justice", stressed also this week at EU Parliament in Strasbourg, French Minister on Human Rights, Mrs Rama YADE.
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