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Popular Referendum on Homosexuals and Mariage+Children Adoption: + 63% NO in Slovenia (EU) +Quorum !

Scritto da ACM
Sunday, 20 December 2015
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*Strasbourg/Angelo Marcopolo/- A Popular Referendum on the Controversial, and Worldwide "Hot" Issue Nowadays (See Infra), of accepting, or not, to extend Marriage to Same Sex couples and to Submit Children to Homosexuals' power under cover of "Adoption", was Strongly Rejected by an Absolute and Qualified Majority of almost 2/3 of People in EU Member Country Slovenia this Sunday, with More than 63,5% "NO" against only 36,5% Yes, (according to 96% of Votes checked).

 

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The Move had been Initiated by 40.000 Signatures of Citizens calling for a Popular Initiative Referendum against a Controversial Law, Tabled by a Government of Left/Liberals and Adopted by a Parliament, which had just imposed Controversial "Same Sex Marriage" and even the Submission of Children to Homosexuals' Power under Pretext of "Adoption".

 

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It's mainly Agaist This Crucial Point that had Focused Slovenian People's Opposition, led by a Movement self-Titled "Children are at Stake", (according also to "EuroFora"s relevant Critical Observatios from the Start on this Hard Fought Nowadays BioEthical Issue, given particularly the Risk for Natural Births to be Circumvented by various Artificial Methods of Procreation of Human Beings, Dominated by Tehcnocratic Lobbies with Shady Interests, provoking obvious Dangers for all Humankind, that Natural Family, formed by a Man and Woman, normaly Help Prevent).

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 This 2015 Slovenian Referendum had to Obtain a Quorum of at leat 342.000 Voters in order to have Legaly Binding Force, and it Succeeded to have About 390.000.

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(Slovenian pro-Natural Family Head Activist Intellectual Ales Primc, obviously goes Natural..)

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Before that, Back on 25 March 2012, a Previous Referendum against an Earlier Attempt by another Government of the Left to  Give to Homosexuals all rights of Marriage, except Adoption of Children Born by Other People, had Won an Absolute (but Not Yet Qualified) Majority with 54,5% of the Votes, and 30,5 of Registered Voters' Participation Turnout. Nevertheless, 3 Years later, on March 2015, a Left/Liberals Governing Coalition had Adopted an even More Aggressive LBGT Lobby's desiderata, f.ex. Adding also full Adoption of Children by Homosexuals, which has just been Refused anew by Slovenian People.

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In the MeanTime, any Implementation of that Contested Law had been "Freezed" until Today's Vote of the Popular Referendum, whose Outcome was a Valid "No" Vote, After which, any Slovenian Government, reportedly, has to Wait for at least during a Year, before, eventualy, Attempting again any Deviant Move.

 

The Dissidents had been reportedly supported mainly by the Center-Right Opposition Parties and the Christian Church, which was Congratulated by Pope Francis "for its Commitment in favour of the Family", earlier This Week, at the same time that he Called the Government of the Country to "Support the Family, Basic Structure of Social Life".


Meanwhile, Earlier This Year (2/2015) another, Similar Popular Referendum in Slovakia (EU), had gathered almost 1 Million Votes in favour of Natural Family, with Results as High as about 93% and 95% when it comes to Refuse Extending Marriage to Homosexuals and Submitting Other People's Children to the Power of Homosexuals through "Adoption". But it didn't get Legal Effects because both of a Boycott by LBGT a.o. Lobbies and a Too High Threshhold for Participation required by the Constitution of that Country, (More than 50% of Registered Voters !). However, a Protection of Natural Family had already been Supported by a Succesful previous Amendment to the Slovak Constitution, obtained almost a Year Earlier (2014).


Previously, on December 2013, a Popular Constitutional Referendum in Croatia (EU) in favour of the Natural Family, between a Man and a Woman, had Succeded with More than + 66 % Votes "Yes", and a 38 % Participation (i.e. almost 1,5 Millions of People), despite Opposal by a Government of the Left and Most Media of the Establishment.

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French People had staged Historic Big Public Demonstrations many times from 2013, and still Continued with various New Forms of Expression of Popular Reject also through 2014, to vainly Ask for such a Referendum also in France, against some Socialist Ministers' stuborn Push to impose at any price the Conntroversial and Unpopular Same Sex Mariage, Adoptions by Homosexuals added, and even Genetic Manipulations of Human Embryos, almost at the Same Time, in a curiously Hasty and unusualy Brutal way, which Started to Provoke even Council of Europe's Official Reactions on mainly on April 2013 but also on September 2015. (The need felt by France to Exceptionaly Support Mali's regime against Extremist Islamist Terrorists' Attacks from Januray 2014, followed by a series of unprecedented Terrorist Aggressions against Civilians Since January 2015 has Hindered any more Popular Demonstrations on such and other related BioEthical Issues of growing Importance in Modern Societies).

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Shortly afterwards, Russia, Belorussia, Kazakstan, and certain African, (as Uganda, etc), as well as Asian (f.ex. China, Vietnam, etc. who ask Guarantees that their Children won't be given to Homosexuals), or APC Countries introduced Legal Safeguards Excluding International Adoptions of their Children by France and any other Country which has Provoked a Risk for Children to be Given to Homosexuals under Adoption pretext.


Meanwhile, a Controversial Referendum in Ireland (accepted by almost all Old Parties of the Establishment, pushed by a USA-Dominated Irish Diaspora), imposed Same Sex Mariage, Despite the Fact that a very Large Majority of Irish People either massively Abstained or Voted "No", so that Only a 1/3 Minority voted "Yes"...(See: http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/irelandreferendumboostsnaturalfamilypopularmovement.html).


However, the PanEuropean Convention of Human Rights, which prevails in 47 CoE Member Countries, Still Keeps, for More almost 63 Years (9/1953 - 2015+), its Article 12, wich Recognizes a "Right to Marry and to Found a Family" Only Between "Men and Women", (despite a Controversial Individual ECrtHR Ruling which, a Few Years Ago, even if it had to Admit that Fact, Nevertheless, undertook an Unprecedented Attempt to Skip the PanEuropean Convention's Explicit Text, in the Particular Case that it examined. Something which, obviously, Can Legally be Overturned, at Any Moment, by an Opposite ECHR's Judgement, at anOther Case in the Future, since Only Legal Texts Remain, while Judges' Case-law Can always Change).

 

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But, as Now in Slovenia, in Europe, (after Slovakia, Croatia, Hungary, as well as Latvia, Lithuania, Bulgaria and Poland, etc), also Many American Federated States, in Recent Yearsn, have Adopted Popular Referenda Confirming the Traditional Prohibition of controversial Same Sex Marriage, and a great Number among them even made it Explicitly Clear in their own Constitutions that they still Recognize only Natural Marriages between a Man and a Woman.


However, a series of very Controversial Rulings by Judges Appointed a the US Supreme Court by Outgoing US President Barack Hussein Obama, practicaly Smashed almost all those Popular Referenda, (often Only by 1 such Unelected Judge's Vote more or less !).

 

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Reacting, almost All current opposition Republican (GOP) Party's Candidates to the forthcoming US Presidential Election of 2016 have Strongly Vowed to Counter all such Obama's Controversial and Unpopular moves, so that Protection of Natural Family can be Restored, in one way or another.


Another Conservative Politician who had initially promissed to Cancel controversial and UnPopular "Same Sex Marriage" if he was Elected, But Afterwards Failed to do so, former Canadian Prime Minister Harper, has just been Severely Punished by Canadian People who Massively Voted, in the latest National Elections, Against his Untrustworthy, Outgoing team...

 

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(Harper with Wife and Obama at the latest G7 Summit,

or was it the Other Way round ?...)

 

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Former "Green-Red" German government's Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer's job at the controversial Turkish pipeline "Nabucco" was denounced as "not proper", "very bad", and "incompatible with Democracy", by the new President of EU Parliament's EuroLeft Group, German Lothar Bisky, replying to an "EuroFora" question.

For once, criticism of Joschka Fischer's doings with Turkey affecting Europe, didn't come only from the Center-Right of the political spectrum, but even from his Left side : The experienced Bisky, who has been chairing all over 1993-2009 the PDS - Die Linke party :  

- "Former Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer got involved in dealings with oil-gaz business in a foreign country, Turkey, and its controversial Nabucco pipeline. This raises questions about Democracy, also because of the well known problems of Human Rights violations in that country. Do you thing that this might be abused in order to cover up and close EU's eyes on Human Rights violations ?", "EuroFora" asked Bisky.

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- "Nabucco pipeline is (only) at the planning stage". And "there are some difficulties",  he observed from the start. But "'I don't want to get into the details of Nabucco pipeline, because I don't think that there is any point for it at the moment".
 
At any case,  "we  (EU Parliament's EuroLeft Group) strongly believe that Politicians should not get involved in the Energy Business, and all these commercial transactions", President Bisky declared on the Joschka Fiischer's affair.

- "We feel that it's something that shouldn't be done. It's not proper !"           

- "We don't think that it's compatible with Democracy either, and it gets politics into a very Bad track", Bisky went on to denounce.
                                                                                                                                                                        
- "EuroLeft  and "Die Linke" always spoke against that, saying that politicians should not get directly into the arms of private enterprises"

- "It is pretty bad if a former Minister takes a job f.ex. in a major Energy producer. So, it's an issue if a Minister who may have seen excellent opportunities, subsequently gets personally grasp of them, in very serious parts of the economy, once he has given up his (Government) job."

- "It doesn't really make politics in general look any better'", Bisky concluded.

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Earlier, this week in Strasbourg, other Journalists had also raised critical questions on former Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer's involvement in the conroversial Turkish Nabucco pipeline to the President of his own EuroParty : Kohn-Bendit of the "Greens", who, contrary to Bisky, tried to find excuses for Fischer, while criticizing his long-time partner, Schroeder for having done a similar move :

- "Shroeder was chancellor", and he "negociated" with "Russians", who gave him a job only "3 Months" after he resigned from the Government. While "Joschka Fischer", on the contrary, got a job with the controversial Turkish Nabucco pipeline only "4 Years after" he left the Government. "He didn't negociate Nabucco", so I have "no objection", Kohn Bendit claimed.

But, many Facts indicate the contrary :

Joschka Fischer was Foreign Minister in Germany from 1999 up to 2005 : I.e. from the year that EU took the controversial decision to give Turkey a "Candidate" status, until he year it started controversial "accession negotiations, (later declared "open-ended" after Sarkozy-Merkel's arrival from 2005-2007).

During that period was prepared the controversial so-called "Annan" Plan (in fact, drafted by others and attributed afterwards to the former UN SG) on Cyprus, which failed after a Popular Referendum said "No" on 2004 with a large Majoriy of 3/4 : 75%. Mainly because it was criticized for making too much concessions to the Turkish side :  Particularly by restricting Greek Cypriot Refugees' Human Right to return to their ancestral Land and/or get restitution of their Familiy Homes and private properties, usurpated by Ankara's Army since the 1974 militay invasion and continuing occupation of the northern part of Cyprus. And by weakening the Central Government, leaving to 2 "constituent States" so much powers and separate interests that more conflicts appeared inevitable, provoking the danger of a break-down in the foreseable future, with more crisis, troubles, perhaps bloodshed, etc., instead of creating an harmoniously integrated, really one federal State.

The controversial Plan was finalized on March-April 2004 at Burgenstock (Switzerland), curiously in the presence of an Envoy by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Germany, then governed by Joschka Fischer, but in the absence of a French and not even an European Union's Envoy, contrary to what was usually practiced on similar occasions in Switzerland (fex. in 1997 at Montreux, in 2000 at Geneva, etc).

Turkey notoriously exploited the failure of the "Annan" Plan in order to convince the EU to decide to start accession Negotiations on December 2004. This provoked an unprecedented series of Institutional Crisis inside the EU, shortly afterwards, when French and Dutch People rejected, 2 popular EuroReferenda by a majority "'No" vote to the EU Constitutional Treaty on 2005, aggraveted in 2004 a Majority Abstention to EU Elections, etc., followed by the recent Irish "No", etc.

"Nabucco" Gas pipeline was notoriously planned since ..2002. It follows an even earlier idea, for an Oil pipeline Baku-Ceyhun, which started to be prepared on 1999-2001 and was meanwhile recently completed.  

So, facts indicate that what is now at stake is based on decisions made during Joschka Fischer's term as former Foreign Minister, closely interested in Turkey's controversial EU-bid.

To the point that he now practically ...switched jobs with a poliician from Turkey, (the State which pays today openly Joschka Fischer), Mr. Ozdemir, who came earlier in Germany, got fast the nationality, and became EiuroMP in a few years, continuing now as head of the "Greens" in Germany, i.e. in Joschka's former job !...

Such astonishing facts risk, unfotunately, to give to German politician Lothar Bisky's criticism of  representative Democracy a topical meaning :

 - "We (EuroLeft Group) think that what is really at stake is Democracy. It's not only about Gas Pipelines or Energy sources", President Lothar Bisky went on to add in his reply to "EuroFora"'s question on Joscka Fischer's personal interests in the controversial Turkish "Nabuco" pipeline.

Such facts, "make People get more distance from Politics. ...People had had enough, and they are fed up !".

- "That's why we (EuroParliament's "EuroLeft" Group) want to strengthen Direct Democracy in Europe. Citizens should be involved in the (EU) Decision-making. In the end of the day, it's not going to help anyone if Politicians are always taking decisions, without involving Citizens. We want to give a voice to the People of Europe. They've got to have their say in the decisions that are taken. That's one of our absolutely fixed and steadfast views. We want more Direct Democracy in Europe. That's how it can become more effective and stronger", he concluded.

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