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Biden lost Last Chance to Verify 2020 Vote +SCOTUS VPresident slams Citizens Confusion+Trust Erosion

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Monday, 22 February 2021

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*Strasbourg/Angelo Marcopolo/- Joe Biden has just Lost a Last Chance to get a neutral US Supreme Court Verification of his Notoriously Controversial alleged Electoral Results of Nov. 3, 2020, and SCOTUS vice-President Clarence Thomas Warned of "Catastrophic Consequences" (sic !) concerning "Erosion" of Citizens' Trust to the Electoral System, After a Series of Non-Motivated Rejections of 7 Law-Suits for "Writ of Certiorari" mainly against Pennsylvania (the Biggest "BattleGround", "Swing" State among 6, Key for the Overall Electoral Result), lodged by Don Trump's Team (2), Lawyers Wood (on Georgia), and Sidney Powell (on Michigan), Pennsylvania's GOP, Lawmakers, NGOs, etc

 The "Certiorari" Procedure (Unlike an Appeal) is based on Discretionary SCOTUS' Choices, Independent of Citizens' (Electoral and/or Other) Rights, and does Not pre-Judge or affect their Legal Rights or Court Cases in substance, Focusing on the overall Organisation of Federal Public Services for the General Interest.

Most Other Trump Team's Legal Complaints have been notoriously Droped, by Mainly Partisan State Judges, basically on various Procedural Pretexts, Not on the Merits.

=> So, at least Some among 8 Legal Complaints lodged to the US Federal Supreme Court, (from which reportedly still Remains Only 1 concerning Wisconsin State, while Other Pending Issues have Not Yet Found their Road to the SCOTUS), had a Particular Importance, by, at last, Offeding to USA's Highest Court a real (Even if InComplete yet) Opportunity to Eventualy Judge on the Merits at least Some among the most Serious Problems Notoriously Faced in that Bumpy Nov. 3 2020 US Presidential Election Row.

- <<Elections are “of the most Fundamental Significance under our (USA's) Constitutional structure" because, >>Through them, We (the American People) exercise Self-Government>>, Stresed SCOTUS, f.ex. since 1979, as Vice-President Thomas reminded in a Disseding Opinion Publshed Today.

- "But Elections Enable self-Governance Only When they include Processes that “giv[e] Citizens (including the losing candidates and their supporters) Confidence in the Fairness of the Election", he underlined, pointing, f.ex. to a SCOTUS' case of 2006, according to which, “Confidence in the Integrity of our Electoral Processes is Essential to the functioning of our participatory Democracy”. On the Contrary, "Unclear Rules threaten to Undermine this System. They sow Confusion and ultimately Dampen Confidence in the Integrity and Fairness of Elections", he Denounced.

- SCOTUS' VPresident Published that on the Occasion of a Pennsylvania GOP's Lawsuit against alleged Fraud/Gross Irregularities in 2020 US Presidential Election, but Lawyer Lin Wood rightfully observed that it's, naturaly, "Directly on Point" with his "Georgia case" and "Sidney (Powell)'s cases in Michigan and Wisconsin", (Comp. Supra), etc+. Mutatis-mutandis, a Similar appreciation might Also be used on an Earlier Legal Complaint Notoriously lodged to USA's Federal Supreme Court by Texas and 18 Other States...

- Indeed, All of them were Droped under Strictly Procedural Points, and Not at all on the Merits of these Cases : Today's 7 Cases were Droped as "Moot", i.e. too much Delayed in Time. And the Texas' a.o. Lawsuit had been Droped for "Locus Standi" pretexts.

=> But, a most Substantial Consequence, throughout All these various Lawsuits, is that, at Any Case, Biden's alleged Election Claim was Not Proved at all to be True, (at least as far as the USA's Supreme Court is concerned), Remaining, on the Contrary, Always a Contested and UnCertain Question Mark !

+ In Addition, at the Present Cases, Biden's position is located on a Particularly Shaky and Doubtfull, UnStable and Negative Claim, which, Normaly, shouldN't have Enough Chances to be Admitted at all :

>>> Indeed, as SCOTUS' VPresident Critically Observes, in Pennsylvania, Recent and Controversial Changes had Imposed "In Mail" Ballots, i.e. "gave All Voters the Option of Voting by Mail" : Something that is Notoriously Considered as Dangerous for Fraud, (and is Even Excluded in CoE's "Code" for Electoral "Good Practices", established by the Competent "Venice Commission", where the USA are among its 62 full Member States : See http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/coeexpertstoefonusaelectionflaws.html, etc).

+ Whenever it Might, Perhaps, be Exceptionaly Authorized, "In-Mail" Voting should be Casted at least "a few Days Before' the Electoral Day, stresses, in Addition, CoE's Electoral "Code", (ibid). But, in this Case, Local Authorities had Even Seeked to Authorize it, initially, until 8 p.m. of the Electoral Date...

++ Evenmore, a Last-Minute Addition had Extended the Reception of "Mail-In" Votes as Far as ...Until the 3rd Day AFTER the Electoral Day, (regardless of Any Post-Stamp, or not, from the Day 1)...

+++ As if this was not enough, Moreover, it's Not the State's directly elected Parliament which had taken such a Controversial Measure, (Despite the Fact that USA's Federal Constitution had clearly entrusted the Legal Competence to do so Only to the States' Legislators), But some (UnElected by the People) Executives, Adding even More Controversy ....

- However, Curiously, Even if, from the Start, such Lawsuit "Met" SCOTUS' "Criteria for Granting Relief", and "Parties did Agree, on Both Sides, that the Issue Warranted Certiorari", while "there was, Also, No Question that Petitioners Faced irreparable Harm", and "a Strong Argument" that a Pennsylvania Authority's "Decision Violated the (USA's Federal) Constitution", and "Petitioners Promptly moved for Emergency Relief", at the Beginning, since "September 28", (etc),

Nevertheless, Already, "Before Election Day" (Nov. 3, 2020), SCOTUS had Initially Denied a Motion to expedite" that case, "Although the Question was of <<National Importance", and there was a “strong Likelihood that (the State Authority's Controversial) Decision   Violates the Federal Constitution", VPresident Thomas Criticized....

=> In Consequence, at least "Now" (2/2021) there is "No (legitimate) Reason to Avoid" these Lawsuits, he judged.

>>> Because "that is Not a Prescription for Confidence" of Citizens. On the Contrary, "Changing the Rules (1) in the Middle of the Game is Bad enough. Such rule (2) by Officials who may Lack Authority to do so, is even Worse. When those changes (3) Alter Election Results, they can severely Damage the electoral system on which our self-governance so heavily depends. If State Officials have [ NOT ] the authority they have claimed, we need to make it clear. ... we (SCOTUS) Need to put an End to this practice Now, Before the Consequences become Catastrophic", (by provoking even W ORSE ?


According to public reports, one candidate for

"a state senate seat claimed victory under what she contended was the legislative rule, that dates must be included on the ballots. A federal court noted that this candidate would win by 93 votes under that rule"

 "A second candidate claimed victory under the contrary rule announced by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court. He was seated"...

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- In Fact, things Became Nasty during "Recent Years", with "a Trend" towards a "Dramatic Expansion" of "Mail-in Votes" via the "Post" : F.ex. 0n 2018, Mail Ballots "composed Just 4% of those cast in Pennsylvania", while "Increasing in 2020 to 38% !", he Denounced.        

- But, "the Risk of Fraud is  <<Vastly More Prevalent>> for Mail-in Ballots", SCOTUS' VPresident clearly Warned, pointing, inter alia, to a "NYT" Article, where the New Dean to YALE Law School "explained that Absentee Voting allows for ... <<Alternatives to Commit Fraud>> on a Larger Scale", (f.ex. Stealing or Stuffing a Ballot box", etc), while "All the Evidence of Stolen Elections involves Absentee Ballots and the like" Nowadays... "Even Before Widespread Absentee Voting, a Federal Court had Reversed the Result of a state Senate Election in Philadelphia, after Finding that the Supposedly Prevailing Candidate had “conducted an illegal Absentee Ballot Conspiracy, and that the [election Officials] covertly Facilitated the scheme with the specific Purpose of ensuring a Victory for” that Candidate... + As for US President Trump he had Recently Explained that "Late Mail-in Ballots" Help Fraudsters by Revealing Where and How Many "Votes" they Need to Add in order to Win, (f.ex. as Biden announced himshelf, After the Electoral Night, in a Video Press-point on Pennsylvania, Boasting that InComing Mail-in Ballots will Continue to Give him a ...78% Majority at a Key County, until he Reverses Trump's Initially Winning Advance : See http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/coeexpertstoefonusaelectionflaws.html + http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/usa2020electoralfraudproofgrows.html).             

+ However, Fraud/Irregularities' Risks from "Mail-in Ballots" raise a Hard Problem for "Post-Election Litigation", because they are too Time-Consuming, (f.ex. in Checking Envelopes, Signatures [an Issue, however,Easily Solved by Romania, on Late 2020, thanks to the Registraion of "Electronic", Digital Signatures : See http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/coeexpertstoefonusaelectionflaws.html], Disputes, etc, throughout Thousands of Ballots), at a period when Courts' Time is Short, given the "Tight" Post-Electoral Events' Calendar, (f.ex. with "Fixed" Dates for Great Electors' Certification, middle December, the Official Counting, by US Congress, of their own Votes for the Presidency, at the Beginning of Jenuary Next Year, etc), pointed out Justice Thomas.    

From the point of view of "Eurofora", we don't think that such a "Zeitnot" should be an Absolute Problem : As far as main Legal and Political Principles are concerned, the Priority should, Normaly, be to Ensure that People's Democratic Choice is Respected, (i.e. Exclude Fraud/Gross Irregulrities which might Undermine it). So that the matter of 1 Week or even Month, Sooner or Later, for the Final Certification of the Great Electors, and/or the US Congress' Official Counting of their Votes for the US Presidency, should, we believe, be considered as, Comparatively, Secondary, and be Adapted, according to practical Necessities, (considering that, at any case, a Full Presidential Mandate of 4 Years expects whoever will really Win that Election). The Number 1 Issue Always being to Ensure Respect for the US Federal Constitutional Principles Guaranteing Citizens' Trust, to the Electoral System Nowadays, and Not a Mechanical, "Blind" Transposition of some 1877 -Fixed (and Only 1945 Adapted) "Dates" for the Formalities... Therefore, it seems Logical and Natural, that, Whenever there might, Eventualy, be a Real Need f.ex. to exceptionaly Extend a Time    Deadline, and/or to Change a given "Date" for one or two among those Various Events, (i.e. as long as there might Still be Important Post-Electoral LawSuits "Pending" at the US Federal Supreme Court, a relevant Postponement of some Dates should, normaly, be possible...)

Anyway, SCOTUS VPresident uses the above-mentioned Argument about possible "Time Deadlines" Problems for Post-Electoral Judicial Control of Long "Mail-in" Voting Disputes (Comp. Supra), Not in order to Hinder, but, on the Contrary, in order to Incite the Supreme Court to Seize the "Opportunity", that it has Now, (i.e. once an "Orderly Transition of Power" has been just performed, while Important Pending Issues are Still Waiting, Ready to be Examined on the Merits and Settled, once for ever), in order to Judge those Issues, not only for the Present Cases, But Also for the Sake of the foreseable Future in Similar or even Identical Post-Elections LawSuits, which are Already Foreseable in the Immediate Future : i.e. 2022, 2024, etc., added to various individual ByElections, etc., as long as these Legal Electoral Matters are Not Clearly Settled yet...         

    + A Similar Trend, (Urging to Judge Now, instead of Skiping Important Pending Electoral Issues, leaving them UnSolved), is clearly Visible Also at the Following Dissending Opinions of 2 More Associate Justices, Alito and Gorsuch :

- Those 2 SCOTUS' Judges, (one Experienced, and anOther Young), Focus mainly on Slaming Dems' and RINOS' alleged Claim that "a Perfect Storm", as they Name the Circumstances of Nov. 3, 2020 Controversial US Presidetial Election, (which Added the Virus' "Pandemic", "Mail-in Voting" and "Postal Service Delays"), would be "ExtraOrdinary and UnPrecedented", to the point  to also be "Not Likely to Recur" in the foreseable Future, (i.e. remaining a "One Off" Event).

>>> Instead, SCOTUS' Judges Alito and Gorshus                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Argue, in Fact, that those Nov. 3, 2020 Incidents might act, also in the Future, as a kind of ...illegal "Virus", (one would say), adversely Affecting even Other Elections in the Foreseable Future, Because Dems' and RINOS'    Opposite Claim would "Fail for 3 Reasons" :

(1) First of all, "the Breadth" of that Issue is much Wider than what acknowledge Dems+RINOS : In fact, Any Local Court, (Often a ...Single Judge, usualy Apointed on Partisan Criteria), at Any among the 50 States, could "Override" Any "Rules Adopted by the Parliament" of that State "for the conduct of Federal Elections", (i.e. for the US President, the USA Senate and/or House of Representatives, etc), Nonobstant the US Constitution's General Principle that such an Important Responsibility is Reserved Exclusively for the States' Parliament's themselves. I.e. a Very Large and Vital Area of the Country's Electoral Life, could be Infected...     

(2) In Addition, such Problems are "Surely Capable of Repetition in Future" Elections, i.e. could Replicate themselves, Like a Dangerous Virus (sic !) : -"Indeed, it would be Surprizing if parties UnHappy with the (Electoral) Rules fixed by a State's Parliament, do ...not ask a State's Court    to Mutate them for something that They Find more Profitable"...

(3) Moreover, for that purpose, (i.e. that Law Virus' Replication : Comp. Supra), "it's Not Necessary to see a Recurrence of the Exact Circumstances we saw this Fall", "in order for a Question to be Capable of Repetition", Neither for "History to Repeat itslf at a very High Level of Specificity".

F.ex., mutatis-mutandis, a State's Court may "Find that Conditions at the Time of a Future Federal Election are materially Similar to those Last Fall".

Among others, "the Primary Election for Pennsylvania Congressional Candidates is Scheduled to occur in 15 Months, and the Rules for the Conduct of Elections should be Established well in Advance".. We may Hope, by Next Spring, the Pandemic will No Longer Affect Daily Life, But that is UnCertain"...

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    - However, if even that "New Virus", of "Legal UnCertainty", (Comp. Supra : Alito and Gorsuch's Disseding), is Not Timely "Vaccinated" by a Crystal-Clear SCOTUS' judicial Solution Nowadays, then, What happens Now with the Worse "New Legal Virus" : that of Threat for Massive Fraud/Gross Irregularities in EU Elections, (Comp. Supra: Thomas' Disseding) which Treatens to be Even Faster and Wider "Replicated", mutatis-mutandis, inevitably Provoking a Huge "Gap" in Citizens' Trust to the European Electoral and Political Governing System ?

    - Apparently, Nothing Good !... Nobody can Trust as "Healthy" a System which ...Abandons and Shoots Down Natural Human Immunity against any "Virus of Fraud" or other Sickness, Hinders even the slightest available "Therapy" Drug, Blocks, Delays or Abandons Any Real "Vaccine", (Pushing Only some Ridiculous "Snowman" or "Hibanjee" "Gene-Manips" of UnKnown Yet Effects, and which Scandalously Infect all the Rest of the World, by "Asymptomatic" Zobies), and Stubornly Refuses Any "Investigation" or even simple Public Debate, at least on the Existence of such a Deadly, Anti-Democratic "Fraud/Electoral Irregularties' Virus", and What Can be Done to Tackle it asap., (Preferring to Hinder, Block and Persecute all those who Protest, Ask for a Full Enquiry and Anti-Fraud Measures, Slander and Trap them, Murder by Gun-Shot, Crush to Death, Kill them by "Strokes", Push them to "Suicides" -including even Policemen, amidst a Wider "Witch-Hunt" Hystery- Arrest, Charge and Jail them, among a Larger Censorship and Muzzling of Dissident Voices even at Private, "Social Medias" at the Internet, (etc), Imposing an UnProven "Official Version" on "Hotly Disputed" Events, Throwing Dissidents' Personal Data by the Window, Exposing their Personal Data, Home, Family and Kids even to Thugs, Obliging them to Resign from their Jobs,  Spreading a Poisonous, Hysteric Neo-Cold War "Maccarthysm", with a Former People-Friendly "House" transformed into an Hostile "Buncker", added Fences, Barbed Wire, EveryDay Tight Curfew, 50.000 Soldiers with Heavy Machine-Guns, (etc), in Nowadays USA.

Loaded Guns pointed or even shot on Unarmed Protestors Murdered a Woman, another was "Crushed", while 1 Persecuted former Demonstrator was pushed to Suicide, added to at least 2 more Suicides among Policemen while "WitchHunt" Spread against Officers suspected t be -Pro-Trump, 3 Different Versions circulated on why Sicknck "collapsed in his Office" at a Late Hour of the Next Day, as 3 Capitol Police Heads were Forced to "Resign", Demonstators were Hindered to Meet and Speak to Any of their Elected Representatives, Heavily Equiped and Armed "Riot Police" Started to Violently throw to the Floor, Flash-Gas-Bomb and Kick Out All Demonstrators from Every Capitol's Premises (Gardens Included), an Immediate, since 6 pm "Curfew", was Imposed throughout Wash. DC, More than 50.000 Soldiers with Heavy Machine Guns, participated in such an UnPrecedented Military "Coup", with Fences, Barbed Wires and stict Interdictions of Circulation of any People until and beyond a Forced, Army-Backed, Inauguration of Biden on Jan. 20 through exceptionaly Deserted Avenues, After having Started Massive MaHunts, Slandering, Persecutions and Arrests of several Hundreds of former Demonstrators (Systematicaly pushed to immediately Resign from their Jobs) throughout the Country, and Many Jailed, even acting President rump's Personal Accounts to Social Medias were Permanently Suppressed, as well as for Many Other Political and/or Legal Dissidents Criticizing 2020 Electoral Fraud/Gross Irregularities (including Lawyers, Book Writers, etc), relevant Videos Blocked at the Web, Establishment's Medias systematicaly Censored any Mention of alleged Fraud/Irregularities in 2020 Controversial Presidential Vote Row, Bullying, Harassing, Muzzling, Attacking and Threatening Any Dissident Voice, (Even of Elected USA Federal Senators included), former President Trump, Lawyers, etc., were Persecuted, while Any Scheduled Official Public Debate in the Congress on the 2020 Presidential Election Row had been Immediately Stopped among Senators and Representatives, Contrary to the Notorious Aim of that Jan. 6 , 2021 Certification Process, Brutaly Interrupted and Hindered to Resume, Shortly After the First Exchanges,(Fully Registered by semi-official C-Span) Clearly Proved that Dems Seeked to desperately Avoid Any Public Dialogue, point by point, on concrete Facts and Arguments presented by Republicans on the alleged 2020 Electoral Fraud/Gross Irregularities... (which was Completely Muzzled after that Jan.6, 2021 Military Coup : See also http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/usacapitolclashonelectionfraud.html + ..., etc).                                                                                                                                -------------------

 

+ Moreover,  "an Election System Lacks Clear Rules when, as here, Different Officials Dispute Who has Authority to set or Change those rules. (F.ex. any State's Court, or the State's Parliament Only). This ...brews Confusion, because Voters may Not Know Which Rules to follow. Even Worse, with More than one System of Rules in place, Competing Candidates , Thomas Warned.

And severeal Recent Articles, including Published at New York Times, note the Fact that "Voting by Mail is, Now, Common enough, and Problematic enough, that Election Experts say there have been Multiple Elections (Recently) in which No One Can Say, with Confidence, Which Candidate was the deserved Winner !" (sic)...

=> "Because Fraud is More prevalent with Mail-in ballots (Comp. Supra), Increased use of those ballots raises the likelihood that Courts will be asked to Adjudicate Questions that go to the Heart of Election Confidence", he Warned.

>>> "But, ...an Election Free from strong Evidence of systemic Fraud is Not alone Sufficient for election Confidence", the Experienced SCOTUS' VPresident went on to Add :  + Because "Also Important is the ASSURANCE THAT FRAUD WILL NOT GO UNDETECTED !", he Moreover stressed.

+ In Addition, "the Issue presented is capable of Repetition" (Comp. Supra). Indeed, "there is a reasonable Expectation that the Same complaining party (GOP) will be subject to the Same action (alleged Fraude/Gross Irrgularities by Dems) Again", in the foreseable Future, he Warned.

=> It's about "Testing Allegations of Systemic MalAdministration, Voter Suppression, or Fraud, that go to the Heart of Public Confidence in Election Results", SCOTUS' Experienced VPresident underlined.

>>> "That is obviously Problematic for allegations backed by substantial evidence. But the Same is true where Allegations are incorrect. After all “[C]onfidence in the Integrity of our Electoral process is Essential to the Functioning of our participatory Democracy", Justice Thomas reminded, Pointing at "a Compelling Interest in rooting out the mere “Appearance of Corruption” in the Political process", (according to the World-Famous Ancient Moto that "it's not enough for Cesar's Wife to be Honest : She must, also, Look Honest !")...

NB => Indeed, "an incorrect Allegation, Left to Fester, withOut a robust Mechanism to Test and DisProve it, “Drives Honest Citizens Out of the Democratic process and breeds Distrust of our Government", he observed.

 - "Here, We (SCOTUS) have the Opportunity"..."to Address these admittedly Important Questions", so that "our Refusal to do so, by Hearing these Cases, is Befuddling !"... In Fact, "there is a clear Split (among SCOTUS' Members) on an Issue of such Great Importance", that "there is No Dispute that the Claim is Sufficiently Meritorious to Warrant Review".

+ Moreover, "the Issue presented is Capable of Repetition, (Comp. Supra), Yet Evades review", Even if "there is a reasonable Expectation that the Same Complaining Party will be subject to the Same Action Again.”... => In Conseqence, "one Wonders What this Court (SCOTUS' Dems + RINOS) Waits for ?"...

>>> "The Decision to LEAVE ELECTION LAW HIDDEN BENEATH a Shroud of DOUBT, IS BAFFLING !", SCOTUS' Experienced VPresident Denounced.

=> "BY DOING NOTHING, WE (SCOTUS) INVITE Further CONFUSION and EROSION OF VOTER CONFIDENCE", he Warned, in Conclusion.

 -  "Our fellow CITIZENS DESERVE BETTER and EXPECT MORE of us..."


    So, that's how BIDDEN's Controversial Presidency is, from Now on, CONDEMNED by USA's Supreme Court to be uncomfortably Sitting on "a Shrout of DOUBT" (sic !), "Leaving the Electoral LAW HIDDEN BENEATH" his back ... (CQFD : Comp. supra).

 

 

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    Before the end of 2009, France and Germany will take strong initiatives to open "new Horizons" needed by Europe and the World, going well beyond the current Crisis' management, anounced French President Nicolas Sarkozy and German Chancellor Angie Merkel, reassuring that both a judgement on Lisbon Treaty by nearby Karlsruhe German Federal Court, and the forthcoming National Elections in Germany would confirm their capacity to act.    

They were replying to Press questions in Berlin, after key-regional elections on Sunday, where Merkel's ChristianDemocratic party kept everywhere a strong 1st and won the possibility to forge a New Majority with Liberals at the largest of 3 Landers : Saxony (4 millions inhabitants), while its main competitor, the Socialdemocrat party fell to unprecedented lows : Tackled by the small "Linke" (left) party in Saarland (1 million inhabitants), it became even smaller than it in Saxony and Thuringen (3 million inhabitants), where SPD arrived only third. While its usual partners, the "Greens" also fell down, contrary to CDU's new partners, the FDP Liberals, who go up.

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    - "At any case, at the end of the year (2009), if things go as scheduled, we shall take strong initiatives, showing that Europe needs a Franco-German axis, as well as the World, even if it never excludes other" countries to join, replied Sarkozy to a question if France and Germany will revive the "European dream", by "relauncing the EU motor" for the Future, with actions going further than the mere management of the global crisis, (as it was done fex. in the Past with the creation of the "Euro" Monetary zone, etc).

    - "I am convinced that the Franco-German friendship must be constantly nourished by New Projects", he added."There are many areas of cooperation where we intend to take, very soon, some Franco-German initiatives, which will allow to open more Horizons" to the EU, Sarkozy stressed.

    But if "we don't speak about that now, it's only in order to avoid interfering in important elections coming in Germany", he observed. However, "we have already started to consider the Future with the (German) Chancellor, and what we can do in order to honour our predecessors". "We are already speaking about that, and we are preparing things". "I am working very well together with Mrs Merkel, and I wish that it goes on", Sarkozy concluded.

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    - "It's important for EU's credibility that France and Germany advance forward together", stressed Merkel from the outset. "Don't worry about Germany's capacity to undertake initiatives" with France, she added. "France and Germany will be perfectly able to make proposals" for the EU.

    -  "After-crisis" plans must be prepared, meanwhile, with measures "advancing progressively", Merkel anounced. And, for the short term, we must deal also with EU Citizens' dismay since they feel that it's a Scandal for some in the Financial Markets to be paid with excessive "Bonuses", etc, she agreed with Sarkozy.

    - "Abuses in financial markets must stop", stressed also Sarkozy. Backing Merkel's announcement that France and Germany call for an EU meeting to forge "a crystal-clear European position" in view of the G-14 Summit at Pittsburg, he warned that "everyone will have to undertake his responsibilities, in front of World's Public Opinion. particularly those who don't want to make the same effort of regulation as France and Germany".

    Moreover, "Global Trade cannot be correctly dealt, without taking into account also Environmental and Social rules", Sarkozy added, referring to recently expressed positions against Unfair Competition via Environmental and/or Social Dumping, (See earlier "EuroFora"'s publications).

    Such moves are obviously linked to the need to ensure at least an elementary respect for Human Rights by Third Countries, (f.ex. exploitation of Children's work, etc) in order to avoid, precisely, any such Social Dumping.

    - "EU has Values, protecting Human Rights and Human Dignity", and "it cannot close its eyes" in front of grave violations, particularly "Torture and/or killings", added, indeed, Sarkozy.

    Thus, "the time comes, where decisions must be taken". But, in case of "Sanctions", "all International opinion should be convinced of the need to take action", he observed.

    Expressed on the occasion of recent developments in Iran, the same principles should logically apply also to other similar cases, including fex. that of Hundreds of ECHR judgements' condemning f;ex. Turkey for grave crimes, (as Torture, brutal Killings, Enforced "Disappearances", Destruction of Family Homes, harassments and oppressive violations of Freedom of Speech, etc).

    Meanwhile, questioned on (EU Commission's chair)  Barroso's bid to succeed himself for a second mandate, they both expressed a "wish" or a "feeling" that "EU Parliament"'s various political Groups might fix a date for decisions "during September". However, is he is endorsed before the entry into force of the Lisbon Treaty, it will be legally necessary to re-vote anew for a full term of office afterwards, according to EU Legal Experts, revealed recently in Strasbourg the experienced former President of EU Parliament's Constitutional Committee, German Socialist MEP Jo Leinen. And Germany will not vote for Lisbon Treaty's ratification but only "on September 8 and 18", revealed Merkel, ( i.e. after EU Parliament's plenary session in Strasbourg).

    - Therefore, "for EU Commissioners' appointment, it's too early yet, because we must wait for the ratification of Lisbon Treaty" by all 27 EU Member countries, including naturally Ireland's Referendum on early October, said to "EuroFora" the influential President of EU Parliament's largest group of MEPs, Joseph Daul, expressing, however, the hope that a controversial deal with the head of the Socialist Group of MEPs, Martin Schultz of Germany, might hold for Barroso alone, at a forthcoming vote due to fix the Strasbourg plenary's Agenda.

    But MEPs reportedly just "postponed" for 1 week all their previously scheduled group meetings (See : http://www.euractiv.com/en/future-eu/barroso-unveil-summer-homework-week/article-184825 );

    However, while the choice of a new EU Commission's President by EU Parliament is supposed, according to many MEPs' wish, take place according to EU policy issues, paradoxically, this would mean that Barroso's bid would pass before even the anouncement of France and Germany's "initiatives" for EU's "new Horizons"...

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