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Hungary: Victor Orban gets in Popular Referendum More Registered Voters than EU + USA Leaders !

Written by ACM
Sunday, 02 October 2016
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At the Eve of an important forthcoming EU Brussels Summit, the embattled Prime Minister of Hungary, Victor Orban, a ChristianDemocrat/EPP Political Leader who is notoriosuly very Popular in his Country : Hungary, (where he's Won 3 Majority Votes in a Series of National and EU Parliament Elections in a row recently), and often Expresses "Visegrad" Group of Center-Eastern EU Member Countries on "Hot" Topical Issues, managed also Today to Win with More than an Astonishing + 98% an Exceptional Popular Referendum against an "Obligatory" reallocation of Irregular Migrants/Mass Asylum Seekers recently Tresspassing into the EU through Turkey, threatened to be Imposed by some EU Commission Officials even Against a Refusal by the National Parliament of the Country.


His Victory on the Greates Part of Voters being uncontested, the Opposed Minority mainly of the Socialist party and some affiliated NGOs, (including, obviously, those Funded by Controversial Millionaire Soros, as Recent "Wikileaks" revelations denounced), had notoriously Focused on various Attempts to Block that Popular Referendum from regularly Expressing the Hungarian People's Political Will, (See also relevant Concrete Facts noted Infra), mainly by "Boycotting" any Participation.


However, Despite that, and several Controversial Blockade attemps (See some Facts Infra), finaly, a Popular Turnout of reportedly about 43,5%, in which almost ALL Voters Supported Victor Orban's popular Critical stance, (alike that of all "Visegrad" Group EU Member Countries, and of much more, as well as of an Absolute Majority of People in France, Germany, the UK, etc., according a lot of recent Polls+), undeniably Succeeded to get a Big enough Support from the People, which is, in Fact, much Bigger than that of Most Other EU and/or even USA Leaders !


Indeed, by Getting a Positive Boost by almost ALL among 43% of Registed Voters Today, (i.e. More than 98% of +43,5% participants : Comp. Supra), Victor Orban is clearly Supported much More by his People than f.ex. EU Parliament's and/or EU Commission's experienced Presidents, (pârticularly since a 1999-2004 Sharp Fall of Participation in EU Elections, but even those elected Back on 2014 with Only a Smaller Part of the 43,9% participants, resulting in something around Only 29-30% of Registered Voters), and most USA's powerful Presidents, who use to get elected Often with Only a Part of just a 49% or 50% Turnout, (i.e., in Real Practice, something often Less than - 30% of Registered Voters !). And this Contrast is Even Bigger vis a vis US Senate and/or Congress, who notoriously use to have an even Smaller popular Participation at their main, "Mid-Term" Elections, each one among the 2 Big Parties getting, practicaly, a Small Minority of Registered Voters, with a Turnout which Fell Down to Only ... 33 to 37% of Registered Voters, already in 1974, 1978, 1982, 1986, 1990, 1998, 2002, 2006, and 2010, etc? (according to Official US Federal Government Data available at "Census.Gov", etc), Droping, more Recently, at 2012-2014, to "the Worst Turnout in 72 Years !", as New York Times reported...


Also, in Comparison, the current French President Hollande (Socialist) stays in power for 5 Years with Only a Minority of about 37% of Registered Voters, (i.e. just a 51% Part among 80% Participants, Minus some - 6% of exceptionaly Numerous Spoilt or Null Votes). Even the still Popular German Chancellor Merkel got in her Best ever Result, back on 2013, just about 30% of Registered Voters (i.e. 40% out of a 71% Turnout), needing a bumpy Compromise with the Socialists in order to hold a so-called "Gro-Ko" which used to have just a Minority of sme 46% of Registered Voters, before the Recent Fall of the Socialists, partly followed even by the CDU, in the Latest Polls and/or Regional Elections). As for former British Prime Minister Cameron, (succceeded by Theresa May after a Majority "BREXIT" Referendum on Summer 2016), he Governed alone, since Back on 2015, with Only roughly 26% of Registered Voters, (i.e. Less than 37% out of a Turnout of 66,4%). Similar real Figures are even Lower, in fact, at several Other EU Countries, such as Italy, Spain, Greece, and many more...

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Replying to Journalists' Questions, including "Eurofora", in a Press Conference at the latest EU Heads of State/Government Summit in Bratislava, the Hungarian Prime Minister had mainly Stressed that the Issue at Stake, on which he wished to Give a Chance for the People to Experss their Views, Threatened to adversely Affect and Alter his Country's Historic Cultural "Identity", echoing various Similar Criticismes already Expressed, mutatis-mutandis also by Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico, (an atypical Socialist, and current EU Council's Chairman : Comp. PM. Fico's Reply to a relevant "Eurofora" Question at his Press Conference to June 2016 EU Summit in Brussels, at : ....).

A quasi-Systematic Exclusion of Christian Minorities, from an almost Exclusively islamized Mass of Migrants "Filtered" through Turkey, inevitably Added substance in such Arguments, (to the point that, Contrary to his Initial wish, ...even Pope Francis didN't manage to Find Not even 1 Christian out of 3 Families from Syria that he Brought to Rome from the Greek island of Lesvos, near the Turkish Boders !).

More or less Similar Opinions have been Recently Expressed, on this Same, Controversial matter, about a notoriously Failed EU Commissioner's initial attempt to "ReLocate" by Biinding Measures Imposed to EU Member Countries, a Number of irregular Migrants/Mass Asylum Seekers arriving through Turkey, also by other Top Officials from the Czech Republic, and/or Poland, etc., who have also Added strong "Security" Concerns, particularly after the Recent Long Series of Extremist Islamic Terrorism Brutal Attacks against Innocent Civilian People in France, Germany, the UK, Switzerland, Austria, Belgium, etc, (especialy Warsaw, f.ex. after a Horrible Murder of a poor Polish Woman hit with a Machette by a heavily bearded Muslim Migrant from Syria, working at a Turkish Kebbab shop at nearby Reutlingen, which had Obvious links with Islamistic Fundamentalist Networks, See, f.ex., Facts noted at : ......), etc.

Last, but not least, such Issues notoriously played an Important Role also at the Recent "BREXIT" Popular Referendum in Great Britain, (given also UKIP's campaign main Focus, etc), on June 2016.

So that even EU Council President, former Polish Prime Minister, Donald Tusk's recent Official Letter to the 27 EU Heads of State/Government gathered in a Crucial Summit at Bratislava, included at least some approximatively, more or less, similar concerns, warning against the risk to ignore most People's real feelings after the recent events, (See, f.ex., the relevant "Eurofora's NewsReport, with extracts from Tusk's Original text, at : http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/tuskdramaticletterforbratislavaeusummit.html )

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The Fact that, due to a Technicality specific to some particular characteristics of Hungarian Law, usualy a National Referendum should have a Turnout of at least 50% of Registered Voters in order to become Legaly Binding, is obviously Irrelevant, here : Indeed, this mainly Concerns "Legislative" Referenda, which have Nothing to do with the Substance of the Real Issue which is at Stake Now. Moreover, if such a Logic was Equaly Applied Everywhere, then, it's, among Many Others, even ... several US Federal Elections, as well as .. All EU Parliament's Elections since 1999, and the French Presidential Election of 2012, (etc), which should, Logicaly, be also Declared as "UnGutlich" or "Null and Non-Void" !... Last, but not least, the above-mentioned, Important Political Significance of such a Big Percentage of Registered Voters Supporting Victor Orban's clearly declared Stance, (and not only of +98% among the Expressed Votes), which, by far, Bypasses even the Strongest EU Leaders' Popular Support, as we've already seen above, (Comp. Data and concrete, Comparative Percenages' Analysis, presented Supra), certainly canNot be Totaly Ignored by the EU, at least not as a really Democratic Institution, caring for European People's democraticaly and Clearly Expressed Views.


+ Particularly when, in Addition to a Nation-wide "Boycot" of Today's Popular Referendum in Hungary, Socialist and some other Municipalities holding from the Past an area covering almost 33% of the National Population, (and Totaling, combined, almost 3,9 Millions of Potential Voters), reportedly Deprived all Citizens there from any "Government Information", Refusing to publish it at all.


On the Contrary, the "Liberal" Party had called for a "Yes" Vote to the controversial, Obligatory EU Commission reallocation of Irregular Migrants/Mass Asylum Seekers coming through Turkey, even if the National Assembly clearly Refused to obey to that. By a "Coincidence", almost at the Same Time, a 1st level Court even Hindered a Municipality in France to give to its Citizens any Chance to Democraticaly Express their Views by a Popular Referendum on that same issue of the Obligatory Allocation of irregular Mass Migrants to their City, (at a Demand made by the current, Outgoing Socialist Government).


In consequence, Popular Demonstrations were Now in the process of being Organized by the Population of other affected Municipalities throughout France.


This comes just After various Similar Popular Movements also in Both Mainland Greece and in Frontline Islands facing the Turkish Borders, where Smugglers have notoriously re-Activated recently their illegal Traffick, despite a FRONTEX (and even ...NATO !) presence at the Aegean Sea, (where the current Government in Athens still refuses, however, to Stop Turkish Smugglers' Human Traffick from reaching EU's External Borders, provoking repeated Protests also from Many Other European Countries affected by the 2015-2016 Massive Influx through Turkey).


In Comparison, more than 1,5 Million irregular Migrants/Mass Asylum Seekers through Turkey have crossed (EU and Shengen area Member) Greece's and EU's External Borders at the Agean Sea on 2015-2016, while, on the Contrary, in the Recent Past, f.ex. on 2014, the Total Number of "Irregular Migrants" who entered the EU in Greece were "Only" ...77.000, according to the current Government's official figures, (and even Less on 2012-2013).


Significantly, it's Only during some former PASOK (Socialist) Governments, Back on 1995 or 2000 that the Number of "irregular Migrants" tresspassing into the EU at Greece had been, respectively, much Higher : 254.000 and almost 300.000, (that Last, Highest Figure coinciding with EU's notoriously Controversial and UnPopular 1999-2000 attempt to Give Turkey, for the 1st Time in History, a Status of so-called "Candidate to (full) Accession" inside the EU, provoking 3 "No" to Three Popular Referenda on a Draft EU Constitution in France, the Netherlands, and Ireland, between 2005-2007.


That Institutional Deadlock was Partialy Lifted only 5 Years Later, on 2010, when a "Simplified" EU Reform Version was adopted by the "Lisbon Treaty", following former French President Nicolas Sarkozy's crystal-clear Opposal to Turkey's controversial and unpopular EU bid since May 2007, (added to that of German Chancelor Angie Merkel's also Reluctant stance since October 2005 National, and May 2009 European Parliament Elections, while, already, a December 2006 EU Summit in Brussels had at least "Freezed" Many Negotiation Chapters with Turkey, due to Ankara's persisting Refusal to abide by its Obligations vis a vis EU Principles).


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Given All these Crystal-clear Facts, there is no need, Now, to re-play ..."Earth Band"/Manfred Mann's Alternative Rock Song "Angels at my Gate", with which they had the Premonition to Start, as No 1, an Historic Concert precisely at Hungary's Capital, Budapest, already as early as since 1983 (i.e. even Before the Fall of Berlin's Wall), whose Lyrics go almost like this :  


- "Numbers (are) in the Air" : Don't mind if it may be "63, 62, 61, 60", or "59, 58, 57, 56, ..54", etc. What matters is that, in Substance ... -"Good Angels (are) at My Gate !"...

- Or, should we also "Place anoOther bet", Now, "as the Stakes get Higher" ? (that same, by an astonishing Coincidence, almost Premonitory, No 1 Budapest Song went on to ask).

 

=> I.e. perhaps, a fully-fledged, EU-wide, European popular Referendum, giving to all European Citizens a Fair and Crystal-clear Chance to Democraticaly Express their large Majority Views on such and other Topical "Hot" Issues, (as a Topical Question raised, just a few Days ago, at the 1st EU-27 Summit in Bratislava Bratislava, crucial both for EU's immediate Present and foreseable Future ?...


>>> See relevant "Eurofora"s NewsReports from the Bratislava EU Summit, with Replies from EU Parliament President Martin Schulz and Hungarian Prime Minister Victor Orban to our Question, precisely on that Topical matter, raised as a matter of General Principle, by another Timely Coincidence, just Hours after the World Day for Democracy..., at : http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/victororbanoneuropeanandnationalreferenda.html + .....



- Why not ?


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People in Europe and the World expect from CoE to make a succes of its "Monitoring" for Human Rights and Democracy, despite difficulties, said Finland's President Tarja Halonen to "EuroFora" at a crucial moment for the mecanism built 15 years ago by the paneuropean organization which celebrates its 60th Anniversary in 2009.

Halonen, known as "Mother" of CoE's "Monitoring" mecanism, a long-time MEP and former Foreign Minister before becoming Finland's President, holds a long experience in the mattter, after also serving twice as CoE and EU Chairwoman in the past. That's why she is well placed to judge how CoE's "monitoring" should deal today with some crucial issues of importance both to CoE and to the EU.

The move came just a Month before a crucial, last visit to Turkey, scheduled for June, by the President of CoE''s "Monitoring" Committee, Ukranian MEP Serge Holovaty, to finalize his Report on Ankara, the CoE Member State with the longest Monitoring procedure. From its results depends its overall credibility.

This is a Test-case, because, in fact, it's in order to avoid Sanctions threatened against Turkey by a CoE's Assembly's April 1995 Resolution for grave Human Rights violations, Democracy gaps, the continuing Military Occupation in Cyprus, the unresolved Kurdish problem, Aegean differend with Greece, etc., that MEPs decided to create, for the 1st time on April 1996, a "Monitoring" proces, allegedly destinated to check, without excluding Countries who did not fulfill all CoE's standards.

In the Past, the obliged withdrawal of Greece's Military regime and of its "Civil" cover-up out of the CoE had helped bring back Democracy in 1974. But, on the contrary, since April 1996, the idea was to "monitor" Human Rights' respect while keeping most concerned Countries inside the CoE. After Turkey's oldest example, this was extended also to several former "Eastern" European Countries, even if CoE's Assembly has imposed to some of them (fex. Ukraine, Russia, etc., after Belarus, Serbia, etc) various "Sanctions", that Ankara always avoided. Curiously more succesful even than .. USA itself, (a CoE "Observer" since 1995), which has been at least threatened with sanctions some years ago..

EU-effects of CoE's Monitoring process became obvious between 2001-2008, since the "closure" of this procedure, when CoE felt that a Country had met most of its Human Rights, Democracy and Rule of Law obligations, (i.e. the "Copenhagen Criteria" for the EU), helped trigger Negotiations with the EU for "Accession" or other closer relations : This occured already before the 2004 and 2007 EU Enlargements to former "Eastern" European Countries, as well as for the commencement of "accession" negotiations with Croatia, and of "open-ended" negotiations with Turkey in 2005.

    But a stricking new development are Holovaty's recent findings that on core Human Rights issues as Torture and Freedom of Expression, Turkey, even "5 Years after" CoE closed its "Monitoring", back in 2004, inciting EU to start accession Negotiations in 2005, still presents grave problems.

    His findings are of crucial importance after a 2008 CoE Resolution called, "if need be", to "seriously consider the possibility of Re-Opening the Monitoring procedure for Turkey" : A move which might affect Ankara's controversial EU bid, since EU Accession Negotiations are based on the Hypothesis that the Candidate fullfils the "Copenhagen Criteria" (See above)..
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    Holovaty expressed his will to check  "Matters still Outstanding" and  those that he "didn't have an opportunity to discuss" at an earlier visit this year, "in order to discuss the more complex issues in greater depth", at his forthcoming New Visit to Ankara, before the December 2009 EU Summit.  This is all based on the 2004 CoE Resolution which stresses that, CoE "will continue.. post-monitoring Dialogue with the Turkish authorities,...in addition to a 12-points list,..and on any Other Matter that might arise in connection with Turkey’s Obligations as a CoE member state".

    CoE's Resolution also asks  from Turkey "to secure the proper Implementation of Judgements, particularly in the Cyprus v. Turkey InterState case", of 2001, which concerns also the plight of many Hundreds of MISSING People. It adds Turkey's obligations to "execute" ECHR's Judgements in the Loizidou case,..and in particular adopt General Measures to avoid repetition or continuation of Violations found by the Court" to the detriment of Refugees.

    Nevertheless, Holovaty said to "EuroFora" that "MISSING" persons,"might be included" and cannot be excluded, but he has yet to examine the situation "to find out  which issues will be raised" to the Turkish Government.

    Therefore, "EuroFora" asked Halonen, as the Historic "Mother" of CoE's Monitoring mecanism, if she thought that, "whenever there are grave Human Rights Violations, as fex. "MISSING" persons, attested even by ECHR's judgements, they should be always checked by a Monitoring process. Or could they be forgotten ?"
    
     - "We (CoE) must be, at the same time, Fair, Realistic, but not in the mind that "now we have Forgotten", etc., replied to "EuroFora"'s question Halonen, speaking as a matter of general principle.

    - "When we think of those People that are suffering from the lack of Democracy, of Human Rights, and of the Rule of Law", "we should find a base on how to deal with the (Monitoring) system more rapidly"', she stressed.

    - "Sometimes it's very difficult to combine Transparency and Effectivenes together, particularly in this specific case", she went on to say. But, "I have not found a (CoE Member) Country who could be insensitive in this sens", Halonen answered concerning grave Human Rights violations attested by the ECHR.

    - "I have no ready-made answer. I have the expectations that you, in the CoE, will, step by step, find the different types of the monitoring systems."

    Also "because this is a part of the UN's Post-Conflict system, (fex. when it comes to Cyprus' MISSING persons), and it's a more Global system". So that, "If we make a succes in Europe, the others will follow", throughout the World.  "But they expect that we (Europe) are this opportunity, this Opportunity to make a Succes", Halonen concluded.

    In addition, she advised to extend CoE's Monitoring to all its 47 Member States, "because, as long as we hear that, all these monitoring systems are "OK for the neighbor, but not for me", "it's very difficult" to understand. Something which could make easier to Compare...

    Finnish MEP Jaako Laakso, former CoE Rapporteur on the Occupied Territories of Cyprus and one of the 5 Signatories of the Historic CoE's call to create the "MONITORING" mecanism since 1996, was more specific :  - "We (CoE Assembly) have to find a way for the issue of Cyprus' MISSING People to be better followed", he stressed, anouncing his intention to "speak to Mr. Holovaty" about that. "There might be also other ways", added Laakso.

    - The 2008 "Year had been a very Bad one for Turkey with regard to Human Rights in general, and Freedom of Expression in particular", denounced, meanwhile, Holovaty's preliminary Post-Monitoringh Draft Report by Holovaty, published by the CoE on April 2009.

    "Amnesty International believes that freedom of expression is not guaranteed given the various articles of the Criminal Code that restrict it. .. "For example, 1,300 Websites are said to have been closed down by the (Turkish) authorities in 2008" ! While "the new Turkish Criminal Code was used to bring a total of 1,072 proceedings between June 2005 and April 2008, and led to the conviction of 192 people", for expressing views. "Representatives of the Özgür Gündem newspaper, which specialises in Kurdish affairs, ..complained about Numerous Attacks on their Freedom of Expression ...as was everyone who advocated a settlement to the question by means other than the intervention of the army" "According to their figures, 19 Newspapers had been suspended 43 times between 4 August 2006 and 4 November 2008" !...

    Moreover, on 2008,  CoE's "Ministers adopted its 4rth Resolution on the execution of the judgments of the ECHR, ...and outstanding issues regarding 175 Judgements and decisions relating to Turkey delivered between 1996 and 2008...  concerning Deaths resulting from the excessive use of force by members of the Security forces, the failure to protect the right to life, the DIisappearance and/or death of individuals, Ill-Treatment and the Destruction of property". CoE's " Ministers urged the Turkish authorities ...to ensure that members of Security forces of all ranks can be prosecuted without administrative
authorisation" for "serious crimes". Holovaty reminded.

"Nonetheless", Holovaty heard anew of "Several cases of Violence committed last year (2008) by the (Turkish) security forces". Amnesty International speaks of Many Cases of ill-treatment and Torture in the prisons and by the police". "Including, fex."'the death of Engin Ceber, a young man of 29 who died on October 2008 as a result of the TORTURE allegedly inflicted on him by police officers, prison staff and members of the gendarmerie. He was part of a group of people arrested on September 2008 during a demonstration and Press Conference in Istanbul'. Proceedings against suspects are "on-going" in this case.

- " I therefore noted an Obvious Contradiction between the Government’s stated “zero tolerance” policy.... of Torture and other forms of ill-treatment, and the different testimonies given", denounced CoE's Rapporteur.  Turkish "authorities must make considerable efforts to guarantee that proper investigations are carried out into allegations of abuses by members of the security forces and that perpetrators are effectively punished" "In this respect, I have requested detailed Statistics on the number of Investigations, acquittals and convictions in cases involving allegations of abuse in order to show the positive impact of the measures taken to date", Holovaty said, repeating a permanently unsatisfied CoE's demand to Turkey since a Decade...

    - "The Political Crisis that shook the country in the spring of 2008 highlighted the Weaknesses of the (Turkish) Constitution", which comes from the Military regime of 1982, "and the Urgent Need of Reforms", stressed from the outset CoE's Rapporteur in 2009. In particular, "the ...Democratic functioning of state institutions, including the independence of the judicial system, are crucial", he observes.

    But, "the Electoral  system and the ways in which it is circumvented do not appear to give those elected complete Legitimacy, and tend to pervert the course of direct universal suffrage", denounces Holovaty, observing that, even 5 Years later, Turkey did not yet change the 10% nationwide Threshold for a party to take any seat, which is "far higher" than the "3%" maximum in Europe and already condemned as contrary to European Standards by the CoE.

    + Moreover, EU Parliament's 2009 Report on Turkey, drafted by Dutch MEP Ria Oomen-Ruijten and adopted in Strasbourg on March, expresses "Concern over the Failure of the (Turkish) Judiciary to prosecute cases of Torture and Ill-treatment, the Number of which is Growing". EU also "is concerned about continuing Hostility and Violence against Minorities" in Turkey. It also "calls on the Turkish Government to launch, as a matter of Priority, a Political Initiatve favouring a lasting Settlement of the Kurdish issue, (while "condemning violence.. and terrorist groups"). EU "regrets that No progress has been made on establishing full, systematic Civilian suprevisory functions over the (Turkish) Military".

    The final results of Holovaty's 2nd and last visit to Turkley will be known later this year, and, at any case, before EU's December 2009 Summit.

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