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Hungary: Victor Orban gets in Popular Referendum More Registered Voters than EU + USA Leaders !

Written by ACM
Sunday, 02 October 2016
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At the Eve of an important forthcoming EU Brussels Summit, the embattled Prime Minister of Hungary, Victor Orban, a ChristianDemocrat/EPP Political Leader who is notoriosuly very Popular in his Country : Hungary, (where he's Won 3 Majority Votes in a Series of National and EU Parliament Elections in a row recently), and often Expresses "Visegrad" Group of Center-Eastern EU Member Countries on "Hot" Topical Issues, managed also Today to Win with More than an Astonishing + 98% an Exceptional Popular Referendum against an "Obligatory" reallocation of Irregular Migrants/Mass Asylum Seekers recently Tresspassing into the EU through Turkey, threatened to be Imposed by some EU Commission Officials even Against a Refusal by the National Parliament of the Country.


His Victory on the Greates Part of Voters being uncontested, the Opposed Minority mainly of the Socialist party and some affiliated NGOs, (including, obviously, those Funded by Controversial Millionaire Soros, as Recent "Wikileaks" revelations denounced), had notoriously Focused on various Attempts to Block that Popular Referendum from regularly Expressing the Hungarian People's Political Will, (See also relevant Concrete Facts noted Infra), mainly by "Boycotting" any Participation.


However, Despite that, and several Controversial Blockade attemps (See some Facts Infra), finaly, a Popular Turnout of reportedly about 43,5%, in which almost ALL Voters Supported Victor Orban's popular Critical stance, (alike that of all "Visegrad" Group EU Member Countries, and of much more, as well as of an Absolute Majority of People in France, Germany, the UK, etc., according a lot of recent Polls+), undeniably Succeeded to get a Big enough Support from the People, which is, in Fact, much Bigger than that of Most Other EU and/or even USA Leaders !


Indeed, by Getting a Positive Boost by almost ALL among 43% of Registed Voters Today, (i.e. More than 98% of +43,5% participants : Comp. Supra), Victor Orban is clearly Supported much More by his People than f.ex. EU Parliament's and/or EU Commission's experienced Presidents, (pârticularly since a 1999-2004 Sharp Fall of Participation in EU Elections, but even those elected Back on 2014 with Only a Smaller Part of the 43,9% participants, resulting in something around Only 29-30% of Registered Voters), and most USA's powerful Presidents, who use to get elected Often with Only a Part of just a 49% or 50% Turnout, (i.e., in Real Practice, something often Less than - 30% of Registered Voters !). And this Contrast is Even Bigger vis a vis US Senate and/or Congress, who notoriously use to have an even Smaller popular Participation at their main, "Mid-Term" Elections, each one among the 2 Big Parties getting, practicaly, a Small Minority of Registered Voters, with a Turnout which Fell Down to Only ... 33 to 37% of Registered Voters, already in 1974, 1978, 1982, 1986, 1990, 1998, 2002, 2006, and 2010, etc? (according to Official US Federal Government Data available at "Census.Gov", etc), Droping, more Recently, at 2012-2014, to "the Worst Turnout in 72 Years !", as New York Times reported...


Also, in Comparison, the current French President Hollande (Socialist) stays in power for 5 Years with Only a Minority of about 37% of Registered Voters, (i.e. just a 51% Part among 80% Participants, Minus some - 6% of exceptionaly Numerous Spoilt or Null Votes). Even the still Popular German Chancellor Merkel got in her Best ever Result, back on 2013, just about 30% of Registered Voters (i.e. 40% out of a 71% Turnout), needing a bumpy Compromise with the Socialists in order to hold a so-called "Gro-Ko" which used to have just a Minority of sme 46% of Registered Voters, before the Recent Fall of the Socialists, partly followed even by the CDU, in the Latest Polls and/or Regional Elections). As for former British Prime Minister Cameron, (succceeded by Theresa May after a Majority "BREXIT" Referendum on Summer 2016), he Governed alone, since Back on 2015, with Only roughly 26% of Registered Voters, (i.e. Less than 37% out of a Turnout of 66,4%). Similar real Figures are even Lower, in fact, at several Other EU Countries, such as Italy, Spain, Greece, and many more...

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Replying to Journalists' Questions, including "Eurofora", in a Press Conference at the latest EU Heads of State/Government Summit in Bratislava, the Hungarian Prime Minister had mainly Stressed that the Issue at Stake, on which he wished to Give a Chance for the People to Experss their Views, Threatened to adversely Affect and Alter his Country's Historic Cultural "Identity", echoing various Similar Criticismes already Expressed, mutatis-mutandis also by Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico, (an atypical Socialist, and current EU Council's Chairman : Comp. PM. Fico's Reply to a relevant "Eurofora" Question at his Press Conference to June 2016 EU Summit in Brussels, at : ....).

A quasi-Systematic Exclusion of Christian Minorities, from an almost Exclusively islamized Mass of Migrants "Filtered" through Turkey, inevitably Added substance in such Arguments, (to the point that, Contrary to his Initial wish, ...even Pope Francis didN't manage to Find Not even 1 Christian out of 3 Families from Syria that he Brought to Rome from the Greek island of Lesvos, near the Turkish Boders !).

More or less Similar Opinions have been Recently Expressed, on this Same, Controversial matter, about a notoriously Failed EU Commissioner's initial attempt to "ReLocate" by Biinding Measures Imposed to EU Member Countries, a Number of irregular Migrants/Mass Asylum Seekers arriving through Turkey, also by other Top Officials from the Czech Republic, and/or Poland, etc., who have also Added strong "Security" Concerns, particularly after the Recent Long Series of Extremist Islamic Terrorism Brutal Attacks against Innocent Civilian People in France, Germany, the UK, Switzerland, Austria, Belgium, etc, (especialy Warsaw, f.ex. after a Horrible Murder of a poor Polish Woman hit with a Machette by a heavily bearded Muslim Migrant from Syria, working at a Turkish Kebbab shop at nearby Reutlingen, which had Obvious links with Islamistic Fundamentalist Networks, See, f.ex., Facts noted at : ......), etc.

Last, but not least, such Issues notoriously played an Important Role also at the Recent "BREXIT" Popular Referendum in Great Britain, (given also UKIP's campaign main Focus, etc), on June 2016.

So that even EU Council President, former Polish Prime Minister, Donald Tusk's recent Official Letter to the 27 EU Heads of State/Government gathered in a Crucial Summit at Bratislava, included at least some approximatively, more or less, similar concerns, warning against the risk to ignore most People's real feelings after the recent events, (See, f.ex., the relevant "Eurofora's NewsReport, with extracts from Tusk's Original text, at : http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/tuskdramaticletterforbratislavaeusummit.html )

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The Fact that, due to a Technicality specific to some particular characteristics of Hungarian Law, usualy a National Referendum should have a Turnout of at least 50% of Registered Voters in order to become Legaly Binding, is obviously Irrelevant, here : Indeed, this mainly Concerns "Legislative" Referenda, which have Nothing to do with the Substance of the Real Issue which is at Stake Now. Moreover, if such a Logic was Equaly Applied Everywhere, then, it's, among Many Others, even ... several US Federal Elections, as well as .. All EU Parliament's Elections since 1999, and the French Presidential Election of 2012, (etc), which should, Logicaly, be also Declared as "UnGutlich" or "Null and Non-Void" !... Last, but not least, the above-mentioned, Important Political Significance of such a Big Percentage of Registered Voters Supporting Victor Orban's clearly declared Stance, (and not only of +98% among the Expressed Votes), which, by far, Bypasses even the Strongest EU Leaders' Popular Support, as we've already seen above, (Comp. Data and concrete, Comparative Percenages' Analysis, presented Supra), certainly canNot be Totaly Ignored by the EU, at least not as a really Democratic Institution, caring for European People's democraticaly and Clearly Expressed Views.


+ Particularly when, in Addition to a Nation-wide "Boycot" of Today's Popular Referendum in Hungary, Socialist and some other Municipalities holding from the Past an area covering almost 33% of the National Population, (and Totaling, combined, almost 3,9 Millions of Potential Voters), reportedly Deprived all Citizens there from any "Government Information", Refusing to publish it at all.


On the Contrary, the "Liberal" Party had called for a "Yes" Vote to the controversial, Obligatory EU Commission reallocation of Irregular Migrants/Mass Asylum Seekers coming through Turkey, even if the National Assembly clearly Refused to obey to that. By a "Coincidence", almost at the Same Time, a 1st level Court even Hindered a Municipality in France to give to its Citizens any Chance to Democraticaly Express their Views by a Popular Referendum on that same issue of the Obligatory Allocation of irregular Mass Migrants to their City, (at a Demand made by the current, Outgoing Socialist Government).


In consequence, Popular Demonstrations were Now in the process of being Organized by the Population of other affected Municipalities throughout France.


This comes just After various Similar Popular Movements also in Both Mainland Greece and in Frontline Islands facing the Turkish Borders, where Smugglers have notoriously re-Activated recently their illegal Traffick, despite a FRONTEX (and even ...NATO !) presence at the Aegean Sea, (where the current Government in Athens still refuses, however, to Stop Turkish Smugglers' Human Traffick from reaching EU's External Borders, provoking repeated Protests also from Many Other European Countries affected by the 2015-2016 Massive Influx through Turkey).


In Comparison, more than 1,5 Million irregular Migrants/Mass Asylum Seekers through Turkey have crossed (EU and Shengen area Member) Greece's and EU's External Borders at the Agean Sea on 2015-2016, while, on the Contrary, in the Recent Past, f.ex. on 2014, the Total Number of "Irregular Migrants" who entered the EU in Greece were "Only" ...77.000, according to the current Government's official figures, (and even Less on 2012-2013).


Significantly, it's Only during some former PASOK (Socialist) Governments, Back on 1995 or 2000 that the Number of "irregular Migrants" tresspassing into the EU at Greece had been, respectively, much Higher : 254.000 and almost 300.000, (that Last, Highest Figure coinciding with EU's notoriously Controversial and UnPopular 1999-2000 attempt to Give Turkey, for the 1st Time in History, a Status of so-called "Candidate to (full) Accession" inside the EU, provoking 3 "No" to Three Popular Referenda on a Draft EU Constitution in France, the Netherlands, and Ireland, between 2005-2007.


That Institutional Deadlock was Partialy Lifted only 5 Years Later, on 2010, when a "Simplified" EU Reform Version was adopted by the "Lisbon Treaty", following former French President Nicolas Sarkozy's crystal-clear Opposal to Turkey's controversial and unpopular EU bid since May 2007, (added to that of German Chancelor Angie Merkel's also Reluctant stance since October 2005 National, and May 2009 European Parliament Elections, while, already, a December 2006 EU Summit in Brussels had at least "Freezed" Many Negotiation Chapters with Turkey, due to Ankara's persisting Refusal to abide by its Obligations vis a vis EU Principles).


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Given All these Crystal-clear Facts, there is no need, Now, to re-play ..."Earth Band"/Manfred Mann's Alternative Rock Song "Angels at my Gate", with which they had the Premonition to Start, as No 1, an Historic Concert precisely at Hungary's Capital, Budapest, already as early as since 1983 (i.e. even Before the Fall of Berlin's Wall), whose Lyrics go almost like this :  


- "Numbers (are) in the Air" : Don't mind if it may be "63, 62, 61, 60", or "59, 58, 57, 56, ..54", etc. What matters is that, in Substance ... -"Good Angels (are) at My Gate !"...

- Or, should we also "Place anoOther bet", Now, "as the Stakes get Higher" ? (that same, by an astonishing Coincidence, almost Premonitory, No 1 Budapest Song went on to ask).

 

=> I.e. perhaps, a fully-fledged, EU-wide, European popular Referendum, giving to all European Citizens a Fair and Crystal-clear Chance to Democraticaly Express their large Majority Views on such and other Topical "Hot" Issues, (as a Topical Question raised, just a few Days ago, at the 1st EU-27 Summit in Bratislava Bratislava, crucial both for EU's immediate Present and foreseable Future ?...


>>> See relevant "Eurofora"s NewsReports from the Bratislava EU Summit, with Replies from EU Parliament President Martin Schulz and Hungarian Prime Minister Victor Orban to our Question, precisely on that Topical matter, raised as a matter of General Principle, by another Timely Coincidence, just Hours after the World Day for Democracy..., at : http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/victororbanoneuropeanandnationalreferenda.html + .....



- Why not ?


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    Before the end of 2009, France and Germany will take strong initiatives to open "new Horizons" needed by Europe and the World, going well beyond the current Crisis' management, anounced French President Nicolas Sarkozy and German Chancellor Angie Merkel, reassuring that both a judgement on Lisbon Treaty by nearby Karlsruhe German Federal Court, and the forthcoming National Elections in Germany would confirm their capacity to act.    

They were replying to Press questions in Berlin, after key-regional elections on Sunday, where Merkel's ChristianDemocratic party kept everywhere a strong 1st and won the possibility to forge a New Majority with Liberals at the largest of 3 Landers : Saxony (4 millions inhabitants), while its main competitor, the Socialdemocrat party fell to unprecedented lows : Tackled by the small "Linke" (left) party in Saarland (1 million inhabitants), it became even smaller than it in Saxony and Thuringen (3 million inhabitants), where SPD arrived only third. While its usual partners, the "Greens" also fell down, contrary to CDU's new partners, the FDP Liberals, who go up.

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    Such moves are obviously linked to the need to ensure at least an elementary respect for Human Rights by Third Countries, (f.ex. exploitation of Children's work, etc) in order to avoid, precisely, any such Social Dumping.

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