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Italian People vote new Right's Unity 1st, +grow Grillo's "5 Stars". Left Falls Down. = Quid Now ?

Ecrit par ACM
Sunday, 04 March 2018
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*Strasbourg/Angelo Marcopolo/(partly UpDated)/- The Italian Voters gave a crystal-clear 1st Place to a New Unity of the Right, (where Salvini's ""Lega" Rightists get an UnExpected Boost, closely followed by a Solid Berlusconi's "Forza Italia"-ChristianDemocrats/EPP, with smaller but steady Party "Brothers of Italy"), and they also Strengthened Beppe Grillo's "5 Stars" atypical Movement, while, on the Contrary, all the Left (most of which was in the Government until now) Fell tragically Down, in these long-awaited National Parliamentary Elections of March 2018.

 

In particular, the New Unity of the Right gets 265 MPs (125 for Salvini's "Lega", 104 for Berlusconi's "Forza Italia", 32 for "Brothers of Italy", and 4 for "We, With Italy"), while Beppe Grillo's "5 Stars" Movement gets 227 MPs.


On the Contrary, Left's Coalition gets Only 122 MPs, while New Leftist Party "Free+Equal" gets 14 MPs.

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>>> People's Will for Change became Obvious Today, since Italian Voters gave a very Large Absolute Majority to various mainly "Anti-Establishment" and/or "Critical" Parties (Unity of the Right and "5 Stars") on 2018, while they Reduced the Out-Going Center-Left into a Small Portion, marking a Spectacular "U-Turn" to the Contrary of what had been voted in the Past, Back on 2013, (Compare respective Results' Graphics).

 

Indeed, Compared to the Past, the Right Wins +140 More MPs, and "5 Stars" Win +119 More MPs than Before, while the Left's Coalition Lost -233 MPs Less than what it had in the Past ! 


=> But, since Noone gets Alone a net Majority of MPs, among those 2 Winners of the 2018 Elections in Italy's Parliament and Senate, (See Infra), the Real Question obviously is How to make those 2 apparently Different "Anti-Establishment" Political Blocks, a New Unity of the Right, headed by Salvini's "Lega", and Beppe Grillo's "5 Stars" Movement (now Headed by the Young Di Maio), eventually broker an Innovative kind of Coalition, in order to Govern Together, for the 1st Time.


If they Succeed,  they are due to have a very Large Super-Majority of about 492 MPs, (out of a Total of 630).


Otherwise, anOther Election risks to become unavoidable, sooner or later. WithOut Guarantee, however, that it might really find a workable Solution to this UnPrecedented but Intriguing Political "Puzzle"...


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The Right would Need, in order to form an Absolute Majority New Government (i.e. 316 MPs), about 50 more MPs, while the "5 Stars" woule need almost the Double.


"Liga"'s Head Salvini had reportedly met the New US President Don Trump already as Early as since April 2016, (i.e. even Before he Won the Conservative Party's primary votes in order to become the Official GOP's Candidate, as he did, Later, on July 2016). And White House's former "Chief Strategist", Steven Bannon, was, reportedly, Now in Italy during this March 2018 Election).


Salvini, a MEP in EU Parliament in Strasbourg, initialy was Member of the "Europe of Freedom and Direct Democracy" Group (EFDD), where the "5 Stars" Movement still is an Important partner.


Later he became "Independent", and Recently joined the New, "Europe of Freedom and Nations" (EFN) Group, Together with France's Marine Le Pen and Netherland's Geert Wilders, as well as Austria's Heinz-Christian Strache, who Recently became vice-Prime Minister in the New Government headed by ChristianDemocrat/EPP Sebastien Kurz.


In addition to his Electoral Alliance now with former Long-Time Prime Minister Silvio Berluconi's "Forza Italia", (a ChristianDemocrat/EPP), Salvini has also, reportedly, said that the Mainstream ChristianDemocrat/EPP movement can be a Good Partner, also because of the existence of some Heads of State/Government like Hungary's Victor Orban.


Silvio Berlusconi, (who had been Excluded from Participating as a Candidate in these Election by a Controversial Measure of the Out-Going Center-Left, currently Attacked by 2 Legal Complaints at the ECHR in Strasbourg : See ...), revendicated a Role of "Guide" and "Guarantor of the Cohesion" of the Center-Right Coalition, (where a notable part is anOther Rightist Party of "the Italian Brothers", headed by Giorgia Meloni, who Confirmed her Endorsement of Salvini).


Berlusconi, a Frequent Participant to ChristianDemocrat/EPP Head of State/Government Summits in Brussels, would be a Useful Ally for a Wider Acceptance of a probable New Italian Government of the Center-Right with Salvini, on the 22nd of March, i.e. at the Eve of the "Deadline" of 24-25 March for Choices due to be officially made in Rome.


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The Frontrunner of the Center-Right Coalition, Matteo Salvini, reportedly declared to be open for a Governemental Cooperation "based on a Program", while the Founder and Historic Leader of the "5 Stars" Movement, Beppe Grillo, (currently "Guarantor" of the Party, Headed by the Young Luigi di Maio), reportedly stressed the Need to Focus, Now, on the main "Issues", and a "List of 10 Policy Points" for a New Government.
Di Maio reportedly said to be Open for Any interesting Government Coalition Deals, while Beppe Grillo evoked a "Mix" of Policies, partly of the Center, partly of the Right and/or of ChristianDemocrats, partly of the Left, as a kind of possible Formula in order to "Adapt" to the current Political Context.


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According to some Polls, the Number 1 Preference of Italians is, naturally, a "5-Stars" - "Center-RIGHT" Government, (i.e. among the 2 Winners), Followed, as a 2nd Choice, by a Shift of "5 Stars" towards the ailing "Center-LEFT", while a 3rd Possibility, that of all or part of the Right adding the Left for a kind of Italy-made "GroKo", arrives 3rd, and even Lower...


But it's, reportedly, also a Majority of 51% who Feel probable that New Elections might become inevitable, sooner of later.


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However, Despite obvious Differences on Approaching Politics, the "Lega" and the "5 Stars" have several Important Points in Common :


- They Both share a Strong Criticism of the Establishment, (Politicians and Medias alike). Something which has contributed to make them Popular, since it meets most Citizens' current Feelings.


- In addition, they both underline their Willingness to "Be Among the People", as Salvini stressed Today, and/or to "Put the People in front of Real Choices", as Beppe Grillo recalled in a Written Statement, just After the Vote, in his Famous Website.


- For these Reasons, they were Both led to make a  very Large Use of various New Medias at the Internet, (that Salvini reportedly "Thanked" Today, while Beppe Grillo's "5 Stars" Movement has notoriously Valorized also as a Decision-Making process' Tool of great Importance for Citizens' Participation).


- Both "Lega" and "5 Stars" have been Members of the Same Political Group in EU Parliament in Strasbourg, (that of the Atypical "Europe of Freedom and Direct Democracy : EFDD", Headed by British MEP Nigel Farage). Salvini, as MEP, was Initially there himself, (before leaving for the new EFN Group : Comp. Supra), while Grillo negotiated the Entry of "5 Stars" as a Major Partner.


- None among their Atypical Leaders canNot be really taxed as a Hardliner of the "Far Right", Nor as being at the"Left": F.ex., Salvini, nowadays Head of the Rightist Party "Lega", had been, initially, Member of a "Communist Party of Padania" (Italy's Northern Area), while Di Majo of the "5 Stars" is son of a Father reportedly former Member of a "Neo-Fascist" Party in the Past. As for Beppe Grillo, he had been reportedly Harassed and almost Destroyed in his Professional Career by the Hateful Hostility of an important former Long-Time Foreign Minister from the "Socialist" Party in the Past, (main Cause of his Original Political Revolt, which finally proved Successfull), so that he normally could Not Forget all that Today...


+ This seems Related also to the Fact that Many among the Fans of Both these 2 Political Parties seem to be mainly Poor People, or Middle-Class People Threatened by Impoverishment, who Search a Political Refuge in various Atypical, Anti-Establishment Political Parties, after they have been practically Abandoned by the Establishment. This becomes Evident also at the MAP of Today's Electoral Results in Italy, which reveals that, f.ex., All the Southern Areas of the Country have Now been Won mainly by the "5 Stars" Movement, added also to the Center-Right for some among them, while, on the Contrary, Noone was Left, there, to the "Socialists" of the Center Left... Instead, the Only Areas where the Left won in these Elections were a Few Spots located manly at the Center or the North of the Country, Traditionally more Rich, (See relevant MAP).

 

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- On the Substance of main Topical Issues, Most Observers, (including even UK's Mainstream "BBC" NewsMedia, but also the President of EU Parliament's "Freedom and Direct Democracy" Group, British MEP Nigel Farage : Comp. Supra, etc), have noted the Fact that Recent Mass Irregular Migration has become an Important Problem also for most Italian People, (particularly Since the 2015/2016 UnPrecedented "Tsunami" of More than 1,5 MIllions Mass Asylum Seekers/Irregular Migrants, mainly through Turkey, but also via Libya etc., partly Provoked by Deadly Islamist Terrorist cowards Targetting Civilian People, as mainly ISIS in Syria/Iraq, linked to Boko Haram in SubSaharian Africa, and various "Al-Queda"-like Armed Gangs).


+ The Latest Revelations about the Horrible Torture, Killing and other InHuman, Bestial Atrocities (such as f.ex. Taking the Skin out of the Body, and Afterwards Cutting it down to Pieces, etc) inflicted to a Young Italian Girl, Pamela Mastropietro, by 2 Nigerian Immigrants, which Shocked the National and European Press, certainly made Popular Anger and Frustration grow even more.


++ But, in Addition to the Right's (and particularly of Savini's "Lega" Rightists) notorious Reluctance to Admit even More Mass Irregular Migration Waves in Italy, (which have already provoked notorious Problems also to Neighbouring EU Member Countries Austria and France, etc, certain times even pushed to Threaten to more or less "Close" at least some Key parts of their Borders to Italy in reaction, etc), it's also  "5 Stars" Movement's new Head, Di Maio's notorious Criticism since 2017 of what he Denounced as ... "SEA-TAXI Service" (sic !), practically Bringing Migrants to Europe, instead of Protecting EU's External Borders, Calling for "an Immediate Stop" especially of some NGO's operating several Controversial "Rescue Ships" off Libya, which gave a Similar Tone Nowadays.


Something which obviously Reminds (mutatis-mutandis) the ..."Jet"-Propulsion, Luxury Sea Cruise Big Boats initialy Hired in order to Transport Mass Asylum Seekers/Irregular Migrants, Suddenly arriving from Turkey since mid-August 2015, through the Greek Islands of the Aegean Sea, before they board, at Pireus SeaPort, special Brand New Buses Ready to Bring them immediately, free of cost, to the Railway Station, from which they Travelled by Train up to the Northern Greek Borders in front of FUROM, where Free "Wifi", Food, Shelter, Health Care, Maps, Information, UN + NGO Staff, etc., awaited them, so that, when they Managed to get into FYROM, they again Boarded Trains bringing them, Through Serbia and Croatia (by a kind of "Guided Tours"), etc., up to Hungary and Austria, in order to Reach mainly Germany (or Sweden), etc. (See, among others, also, f.ex.: http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/euparliamentandjetsetirregularmasdmigrationfromtyrkey.html + ..., etc).


So that, when a Polish Officer from EU's "FrontEx", at First (on Summer 2015), Dared use his Gun to Face an Armed Turkish Smuggler, in order to Defend EU's External Borders from Systematicaly Organized Illegal Mass Intrusions, he was reportedly ...fiercely Criticized and Pushed Aside (instead of being Thanked) ! Thus, when, Recently, during December 2017 Christmas and/or at New Year's Eve, anOther CoastGuards' Boat found again almost a Hundrent of more Mass Asylum Seekers/Irregular Migrants still Arriving from Turkey, by TressPassing EU's External Borders, into EU Member Greece, they Simply Transported them to the Nearest Greek (i.e. EU) Island, where they, naturally, joined the Collective Festivities for the New Year... I.e. a Phenomenon obviously Similar, if not Identical, with that which was Denounced, by "5 Stars" current Chief Di Mayo, as a kind of  ... "Sea Taxi", that must "Stop" (Comp. Supra).


Moreover, the Historic Founder (and Nowadays "Guarantor") of the "5 Stars" Movement, Beppe Grillo, has also, reportedly, asked  to "Review" EU's Open Borders Policy under the Shengen agreements, after the 2016 Deadly Islamist Terrorist Attack by an ISIS' coward Lorry Driver against Civilian People at Berlin's Christmas Market.


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- AnOther Topical, and, in Fact, quite Important (even if Traditionaly considered Secondary) Issue, is that of Bio-Ethics, where at least some Convegences, on certain Key-Points, between the Right and "5 Stars", canNot be Excluded :


- F.ex., concerning the recently "Hot" Issue (f.ex. in France, etc) of Children submitted to Homosexuals' Power under Pretext of "Adoption", in Addition to the Right's usual Social Conservatism on Family and Childrens' Law and Values, even the "5 Stars" Movement's MPs were let Free to Vote in Parliament individually, according to Each one's Personal Views and Feelings on 2016, when the "M5S" decided Not to Back officially a controversialf Proposal to Recognize the StepChild "Adoptions" by Same Sex Civil Partnerships, (etc).


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On Foreign Policy (in Fact Related here, directly or indirectly, at least Partly with Economy, Culture, and even BioEthics, etc), Both the Right and "5 Stars" are quite Favorable to Stopping Controversial "Sanctions" against Russia, and for Developping Good Relations with Moscow :


This has been reported, indeed, not only for Berlusconi, but also for Salvini, and even "5 Stars" Movement's Top Politician Di Stefano, as well as Beppe Grillo himself, (etc).


Therefore, at a Moment when Both the EU and the USA seem to Wonder whether they should Revise their Post-2014 stance vis a vis Cooperation with Russia, (and while even 2019 Ukranian Election approaches, Parallel to forthcoming Moves to Bring Peace in Syria, etc, as well as to Boost Economy), this particular Point might, eventually, play a Bigger Role than usually expected, Both in the Italian and in all EU's Politics in the foreseeable Future.

 

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+Moreover, concerning also the New USA President Don Trump, both the New Unity of the Right and the "5 Stars" Movement's Leaders have reportedly expressed an Interest and often even a Sympathy, at least with some among his main Political characteristics.

 

It's not by pure chance that Trump's former Campaign Manager and f. White House Strategist, Steve Bannon, was personally visiting Italy during this latest Electoral period.

 

 Even more Important : Certain Key Original Aspects of Don Trump's atypical policies, - particularly Visible at his Landmark "Nomination" Speeche at Ohio, Summer 2016 (See : ...), and his 1st "State of the Union" Speech in US Congress, at the Beginning of 2018 (See: ..., etc) -  may also Help Find several concrete Converging Points, in Fact Shared Both by the New Unity of the Right and the "5 Stars" Movement in Italy : F.ex., the Criticism of Establishment's Traditional Medias and the Preference for New Internet Tools closer to the People ; Mass Migration Issues ; a Stronger Fight against Deadly Islamist Terrorism, particularly of ISIS' cowards Targetting Civilian People, (be it versus Boko Haram in Africa, from Nigeria up to Libya, or v ISIL itself in Syria, etc); Will for Better Relations with Russia ; preference for Peace instead of involvement at long Wars abroad ; claims to Help also Impoverished People, Reduce unecessary Public Spending for Bureaucracy etc. and Boost real Economy ; (etc).

 

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++ In Addition, Salvini was, Recently, more Critical than others (asking for Stronger Counter-Measures) against Turkey's latest GunBoats' Bullying of an Italian Oil/Gas Search Ship at EU Member Cyprus' Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ : See ..., etc), while Beppe Grillo's "5 Stars" MEPs, inside EU Parliament, have also been Often very Vocal Critics of Turkish Authorities' massive Oppression against various Dissidents, as well as versus Ankara's Controversial and UnPopular EU bid.                                                                                                                                                                                      


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As far as EU's proper Aspects are concerned, roughly speaking, Both the new Unity of the Right and "5 Stars" had notoriously Criticized several Key EU Policies in the Past, (and still do, at least Partly).


But, more Recently, (and even More around these 2018 Election), in one way or another, Both have started to Indicate that, (at least on main Structural EU Issues) they would Try to Find some kind of Compromises and/or would Accomodate themselves with Vital EU Core matters.


At the Right, Berlusconi's Long-Time Experience as former Prime Minister and Links with mainstream ChristianDemocrat/EPP, adds to Salvini's recent Reference to Victor Ortban, Prime Minister of Hungary and ChristianDemocrat/EPP Member himself, (while his participation to Marine Le Pen's new Group in EU Parliament does not exclude that he may follow a Similar Path to that of Austrian Rightist Heinz-Christian Strache, also Member of that Same Group, who Recently Joined the Young Chancelor Sebastian Kurz, a mainstream ChristianDemocrat/EPP, on a "Pro-European" Government Coalition Program, just before Austria Chairs the EU from July 2018, i.e. after Bulgaria, current EU Rotating President, whose Prime Minister Boyko Borisov, has already made a Coalition with his country's Rightists "Patriots", without any problem for the EU).


As for the "5 Stars" Movement, Beppe Grillo's decision to Enter and Remain in Euro-Sceptic and pro-BREXIT Brittish MEP Nigel Farage's Political Group in EU Parliament, of "Freedom and Direct Democracy", should Not push to False and/or Exagerated Impressions :


- Indeed, Grillo has reportedly made also, Recently, a Last-Minute aborted Attempt to Join the ...Liberal Group in EU Parliament, Headed by former Prime Minister of Belgium, Guy Verhofstadt, i.e. one among the notoriously Most Pro-EU Groups !


And his Latest Press Statements, (Symbolic but Locacious), about a Vital Need to Adapt to New Contexts, eventually by Taking a Part of traditional "Right" Policies, and a Part of traduitional "Left" Policies, to Add with something New (etc), obviously indicate a Will to Try to Forge and put into Practice some kind of Original Political Compromises accross all Issues, EU included...


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Last, but Not Least, just by Looking at Nowaday's Electoral Results' Map of Italy, as well as on main Issues at stake, Keen Observers can Feel that, most probably, it all boils down to the Fact that a Wide Majority of Italian People, recently Affected by some Controversial Policies of the Establishment, have Desperately Tried to Bring some Change, simply by Voting any important Anti-Establishment Party, be it of the new Unity of the Right, or of the "5 Stars" Movement, so that, in Reality, their Main Aspirations would, logically, Head Towards Similar, if not identical, Political Targets.

 

It's up to Democracy to succeed to Translate that in Real, effective Political Action.

 

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Former "Green-Red" German government's Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer's job at the controversial Turkish pipeline "Nabucco" was denounced as "not proper", "very bad", and "incompatible with Democracy", by the new President of EU Parliament's EuroLeft Group, German Lothar Bisky, replying to an "EuroFora" question.

For once, criticism of Joschka Fischer's doings with Turkey affecting Europe, didn't come only from the Center-Right of the political spectrum, but even from his Left side : The experienced Bisky, who has been chairing all over 1993-2009 the PDS - Die Linke party :  

- "Former Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer got involved in dealings with oil-gaz business in a foreign country, Turkey, and its controversial Nabucco pipeline. This raises questions about Democracy, also because of the well known problems of Human Rights violations in that country. Do you thing that this might be abused in order to cover up and close EU's eyes on Human Rights violations ?", "EuroFora" asked Bisky.

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- "Nabucco pipeline is (only) at the planning stage". And "there are some difficulties",  he observed from the start. But "'I don't want to get into the details of Nabucco pipeline, because I don't think that there is any point for it at the moment".
 
At any case,  "we  (EU Parliament's EuroLeft Group) strongly believe that Politicians should not get involved in the Energy Business, and all these commercial transactions", President Bisky declared on the Joschka Fiischer's affair.

- "We feel that it's something that shouldn't be done. It's not proper !"           

- "We don't think that it's compatible with Democracy either, and it gets politics into a very Bad track", Bisky went on to denounce.
                                                                                                                                                                        
- "EuroLeft  and "Die Linke" always spoke against that, saying that politicians should not get directly into the arms of private enterprises"

- "It is pretty bad if a former Minister takes a job f.ex. in a major Energy producer. So, it's an issue if a Minister who may have seen excellent opportunities, subsequently gets personally grasp of them, in very serious parts of the economy, once he has given up his (Government) job."

- "It doesn't really make politics in general look any better'", Bisky concluded.

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Earlier, this week in Strasbourg, other Journalists had also raised critical questions on former Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer's involvement in the conroversial Turkish Nabucco pipeline to the President of his own EuroParty : Kohn-Bendit of the "Greens", who, contrary to Bisky, tried to find excuses for Fischer, while criticizing his long-time partner, Schroeder for having done a similar move :

- "Shroeder was chancellor", and he "negociated" with "Russians", who gave him a job only "3 Months" after he resigned from the Government. While "Joschka Fischer", on the contrary, got a job with the controversial Turkish Nabucco pipeline only "4 Years after" he left the Government. "He didn't negociate Nabucco", so I have "no objection", Kohn Bendit claimed.

But, many Facts indicate the contrary :

Joschka Fischer was Foreign Minister in Germany from 1999 up to 2005 : I.e. from the year that EU took the controversial decision to give Turkey a "Candidate" status, until he year it started controversial "accession negotiations, (later declared "open-ended" after Sarkozy-Merkel's arrival from 2005-2007).

During that period was prepared the controversial so-called "Annan" Plan (in fact, drafted by others and attributed afterwards to the former UN SG) on Cyprus, which failed after a Popular Referendum said "No" on 2004 with a large Majoriy of 3/4 : 75%. Mainly because it was criticized for making too much concessions to the Turkish side :  Particularly by restricting Greek Cypriot Refugees' Human Right to return to their ancestral Land and/or get restitution of their Familiy Homes and private properties, usurpated by Ankara's Army since the 1974 militay invasion and continuing occupation of the northern part of Cyprus. And by weakening the Central Government, leaving to 2 "constituent States" so much powers and separate interests that more conflicts appeared inevitable, provoking the danger of a break-down in the foreseable future, with more crisis, troubles, perhaps bloodshed, etc., instead of creating an harmoniously integrated, really one federal State.

The controversial Plan was finalized on March-April 2004 at Burgenstock (Switzerland), curiously in the presence of an Envoy by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Germany, then governed by Joschka Fischer, but in the absence of a French and not even an European Union's Envoy, contrary to what was usually practiced on similar occasions in Switzerland (fex. in 1997 at Montreux, in 2000 at Geneva, etc).

Turkey notoriously exploited the failure of the "Annan" Plan in order to convince the EU to decide to start accession Negotiations on December 2004. This provoked an unprecedented series of Institutional Crisis inside the EU, shortly afterwards, when French and Dutch People rejected, 2 popular EuroReferenda by a majority "'No" vote to the EU Constitutional Treaty on 2005, aggraveted in 2004 a Majority Abstention to EU Elections, etc., followed by the recent Irish "No", etc.

"Nabucco" Gas pipeline was notoriously planned since ..2002. It follows an even earlier idea, for an Oil pipeline Baku-Ceyhun, which started to be prepared on 1999-2001 and was meanwhile recently completed.  

So, facts indicate that what is now at stake is based on decisions made during Joschka Fischer's term as former Foreign Minister, closely interested in Turkey's controversial EU-bid.

To the point that he now practically ...switched jobs with a poliician from Turkey, (the State which pays today openly Joschka Fischer), Mr. Ozdemir, who came earlier in Germany, got fast the nationality, and became EiuroMP in a few years, continuing now as head of the "Greens" in Germany, i.e. in Joschka's former job !...

Such astonishing facts risk, unfotunately, to give to German politician Lothar Bisky's criticism of  representative Democracy a topical meaning :

 - "We (EuroLeft Group) think that what is really at stake is Democracy. It's not only about Gas Pipelines or Energy sources", President Lothar Bisky went on to add in his reply to "EuroFora"'s question on Joscka Fischer's personal interests in the controversial Turkish "Nabuco" pipeline.

Such facts, "make People get more distance from Politics. ...People had had enough, and they are fed up !".

- "That's why we (EuroParliament's "EuroLeft" Group) want to strengthen Direct Democracy in Europe. Citizens should be involved in the (EU) Decision-making. In the end of the day, it's not going to help anyone if Politicians are always taking decisions, without involving Citizens. We want to give a voice to the People of Europe. They've got to have their say in the decisions that are taken. That's one of our absolutely fixed and steadfast views. We want more Direct Democracy in Europe. That's how it can become more effective and stronger", he concluded.

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