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CoE: Greek President Pavlopoulos: Distinguish real Refugees from Irregulars or Criminals via Turkey

Автор ACM
Среда, 26 Апрель 2017
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*Strasbourg/CoE/Angelo Marcopolo/- The main Problem about Mass Immigration through Turkey is to Distinguish between Real Refugees and Economic irregular Immigrants or even Criminals, stressed Greek President, Prokopis Pavlopoulos, at CoE's PanEuropean Parliamentary Assembly's Plenary, earlier Today in Strasbourg, Replyig to relevant Questions by representatives of MEPs' Groups.

    - Mainstream Austrian MEP Schenach, speaking on behalf of the Socialist Group, asked President Pavlopoulos (a former ChristianDemocrat/EPP Minister) what kind of European or International "Support" would Need Greece in order to Help the Country cope with the Massive Influx of Asylum Seekers coming via Turkey .


    - Pavlopoulos, after Reminding the Fact that much more than 1 Million of Asylum Seekers suddebly crossed through Turkey into EU and Shenghen area Member Greece, last year, and still Today, Each Day, at least 20 to 60 such Migrants arrive to Greece, where about 60.000 are Enclaved nowadays, gave a Surprising Reply :     


    He didnt' ask neither for EU Funds, despite the Hard Financial situation of the Country, nor for urgent EU ReLocation of the Mass Migrans still remaining in Greece. He only asked for a specific Know-How :

    - The main "Problem is that it's Not Only real Refugees who arrive" in Europe through Turkey.- "They are Easy to Integrate", he Optimisticaly stressed.

    + But, there are also a lot of Irregular (Economic) Migrants, and even "many who are Criminals !", President Pavlopoulos went on to denounce, (reminding that he had a particularly extensive Personal Experience of that matter, since he had already served, in the recent Past, as former Minister of Interior, in a different, 2004-2009 Government, before being elected President on 2015).     

    => Therefore, "Greece must Select" those who are accepted. But, the Country "has Not Sufficient means" to do so yet just by itself alone.
    
    >>> So that, Nowadays, "the EU and NATO need to Help Better Control" the relevant choices that have to be made each time on the spot. That's the "Solidarity" which is "necessary", President Pavlopoulos pointed out.

    + As for "Turkey", (from where suddenly came all that unprecedented 2015-2016 "Tsunami" of Mass Irregular Migration), Ankara's Government should, at least, "Arrest those (mainly Turkis) Smugglers of illegal immigrants", he added.     
        
    German mainstream Medias have already reported, recently, that a secret EU Enquiry Revealed that the Turkish Authorities are, in Fact, ...Selecting Who they'd send to Europe, inter alia, also by ...Excluding Qualified People among Syrian Refugees, and sending Only very Low-Education level, and/or quite Sick, irregular immigrants, Difficult or Impossible to socio-culturaly Integrate.     
    
    Already, most, if not all, Christian Refugees (particularly Targetted by ISIL's Terrorists, etc), notoriously try to Avoid Turkey, (allegedly because of a "Heavy Islamic" Control on both "Camps" and/or Mass Migrants' Flows towards Europe monitored by Ankara's regime, Prefering to go Elsewhere : F.e. in Lebanon, (where most live Out of Camps, but welcomed inside Host Family Homes), or even as far as ... Armenia, etc.     
    
    Thus, recently, even when Pope Francis made an Official Visit at the Greek Islands receiving the greatest number of Mass Asylum Seekers since 2015, in order also to take 3 Families with him, Back to Italy, to Host them in the Vatican, he was, Surprizingly, Hindered to Find at least 1 Christian out of 3 Migrant Families there, (Despite having Previously Informed the current Government of Greece for his intentions, since several Weeks), being Finaly Obliged to take All 3 of them 100% Muslim !, (with the Obvious Risk to provoke Incomprehension among the Christian Catholic Community in Europe and Worldwide)...

    In addition, several ISIL's Deadly Islamist Terrorists were notoriously Hidden among Fake Mass "Refugees" infiltrating the EU through Turkey and via EU + Shenghen Member Greece, as, f.ex. many among those who cowardly Targetted and killed a lot of innocent Civilian People, in a Series of Terror Attacks in Paris the 13th of November 2015, (etc).


    Even that individual who notoriously Raped and Killed the Young German Girl Maria Landberger at nearby Fribourg on 2016, had been initially presented and welcomed as a ..."Child Refugee", in Fact, was an Adult Persistent Offender (Multi-Recidivist) Brutal Criminal, who had already Violently Attacked other innocent Victims f.ex. in Greece etc. and Condemned in the Past...     

    The Real political Refugees would be naturaly Appalled by such scandalously Irresponsible and even Deadly, but repeated "Blunders", which obviously risk to Soil and Discredit in the Public Opinion the Noble Word of real "Refugee", (by a "Coincidence", to the undeniable Political Interest of those who massively Smuggled such Thugs and/or Criminals in Europe, as the notoriously Big and Dramatic Number of Armenian Refugees, Cypriot Refugees, Kurdish Refugees, Greek Refugees, various Dissident Turkish Refugees, etc, obliged to Flee Massive Human Rights Violations from Turkey's Regime and/or Military prove)...                                                                                                                     
    

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ECHR's President to "EuroFora" on Journalists Gongadze and Adali murders : Principles must apply to all States, without discrimination.


+ ECHR's Statistics on Freedom of Expression (See below).


 European Court of Human Rights' President, Jean-Paul Costa, questioned by "EuroFora" on Journalists' murders, as in Gongadze and Adali's cases etc., strongly stressed all CoE Member States' obligation to make efficient Investigations to find and punish those responsible, and underlined that ECHR's case-law's principles must apply to all without any discrimination.

His call was clearly supported by various Top MEPs who denounced a risk of "Double Standards" if some Journalists' murders are investigated, while others don't.

To avoid such risks, CoE's Parliamentary Assembly adopted a Resolution, on the occasion of Ukranian Journalist Gongadze's murder, "stressing", as a matter of general Principle, "the importance it attaches to the safety of Journalists and political activists, especially those linked to opposition groups, in ALL member states of the CoE". All "crimes against journalists and political activists must be investigated ... as a matter of priority, without political interference".

Costa was replying to "EuroFora"s question on the fact that, after CoE's Committee of Ministers, also CoE's Assembly had just adopted a Resolution on Gongadze murder case, based on an ECHR's judgement of 2005, asking a full Investigation from Ukraine, who has found and condemned  in 10 years of jail 2 executants, but not yet the instigators.

While nothing similar was yet done for dissident Turkish Cypriot Kutlu Adali's murder, with 5 bullets shot at his head out of his Family's home in the territories of Cyprus occupied by Ankara's army, despite another ECHR's judgement of the same year 2005, and despite Turkey's claim that nobody was found among those responsible for the murder, and that there was nothing more to do..

In order to be credible and efficient, CoE's mechanisms shouldn't find a way to at least ask for full investigations of all Journalists' murders anywhere they might be committed, without exceptions ?

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- "On the larger question that you raised, I'd like to say, since we are in a period of stock-taking on ECHR's 50 Years, that the Court's case-law developed certain concepts ....such as the Positive obligations of States, part of which are also the procedural obligations", started to reply ECHR's President.

 - "Whenever Journalists, Lawyers, Defenders of Human Rights, or even simple Citizens are murdered, the States are held responsible, not only if its their own security forces' agents who committed these murders, but also if they didn't make sufficiently substantial and efficient Investigations", he stressed.

- "I want to strongly underline that we (ECHR) have found in many cases numerous violations of Articles 2 and 3 against States, ....(about) murders or torture, ...because they didn't make enough Investigations in order to try to find and punish those responsible".

- "We (ECHR) do that vis-a-vis all 47 (CoE) Member States, without any discrimination".

"Naturally, the circumstances in each particular case may be differend, and we can't ommit to apply the rules of proof, or the rules of criminal procedure".

"But we try, by all means, to apply these principles of our case-law, to all States", he concluded.

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      Costa's call was strongly supported by several Top CoE MEPs, from various Political areas


- "To investigate the murder of one Journalist, and not of another, looks like Double Standards", denounced the President of EuroLeft Group in CoE's Assembly, Dutch MEP Tiny Cox.  

- "What is the reason ? Politics or specificity of a case ? Of course, if Cyprus and Turkey are involved, it's always a Political case"..

- "Murders of Journalists should always be fully investigated, because killing Journalists is not only killing persons, but also killing Free Press".  "We (CoE's Assembly) should do our outmost to help People who are working on Free Press and they are under threat or murdered".

Because for Free Politics, Free Press is a pre-requisitive : Parliamentarians  cannot  function without a Free Press. Not investigating, is not protecting ourselves".

So we should investigate all Journalists' murders : We are talking about Gongadze, about the Cypriot man (Adali), about the Journalist murdered in Moscow one week ago, etc", Cox concluded

- "CoE can' look at these cases differently. CoE can't wear Blinckers  !".
- "If the one is investigated, so has to be also the other. Why there wasn't full investigation ? Why's that ?", wondered British  Socialist MEP, Alan Meale.

- "A good idea" would be to "make a Motion for Resolution", and "join all Journalists' murders. Adali and Gongadze etc", said to "EuroFora" EU Parliament Political affairs Committee's President, Goran Lindbland, ChristianDemocrat MEP from Sweden.


(See also earlier News at "EuroFora" on similar issues).
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ECHR's Statistics on Freedom of Expression :


    Almost Half of condemnations by ECHR for violations of Freedom of Expression in 2008, concern Turkey : 20 out of a total of 48 for all CoE's Member States.

    Russia, Poland, France and Moldova were condemned only 3 times. Romania, Greece, Portugal, 2 times, and the other CoE Member States only 1 time, or none.
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    During the last Decade : 1998 - 2008, Turkey was condemned for violating Freedom of Expression in ..169 cases, while Austria only in 24.

    France and Moldova in 14 and 13, respectively, closely followed by Russia and Poland with 11 and 10, respectively. The rest of CoE Member States had less than ten condemnations.    
    

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