

CoE: Greek President Pavlopoulos: Distinguish real Refugees from Irregulars or Criminals via Turkey

*Strasbourg/CoE/Angelo Marcopolo/- The main Problem about Mass Immigration through Turkey is to Distinguish between Real Refugees and Economic irregular Immigrants or even Criminals, stressed Greek President, Prokopis Pavlopoulos, at CoE's PanEuropean Parliamentary Assembly's Plenary, earlier Today in Strasbourg, Replyig to relevant Questions by representatives of MEPs' Groups.
- Mainstream Austrian MEP Schenach, speaking on behalf of the Socialist Group, asked President Pavlopoulos (a former ChristianDemocrat/EPP Minister) what kind of European or International "Support" would Need Greece in order to Help the Country cope with the Massive Influx of Asylum Seekers coming via Turkey .
- Pavlopoulos, after Reminding the Fact that much more than 1 Million of Asylum Seekers suddebly crossed through Turkey into EU and Shenghen area Member Greece, last year, and still Today, Each Day, at least 20 to 60 such Migrants arrive to Greece, where about 60.000 are Enclaved nowadays, gave a Surprising Reply :
He didnt' ask neither for EU Funds, despite the Hard Financial situation of the Country, nor for urgent EU ReLocation of the Mass Migrans still remaining in Greece. He only asked for a specific Know-How :
- The main "Problem is that it's Not Only real Refugees who arrive" in Europe through Turkey.- "They are Easy to Integrate", he Optimisticaly stressed.
+ But, there are also a lot of Irregular (Economic) Migrants, and even "many who are Criminals !", President Pavlopoulos went on to denounce, (reminding that he had a particularly extensive Personal Experience of that matter, since he had already served, in the recent Past, as former Minister of Interior, in a different, 2004-2009 Government, before being elected President on 2015).
=> Therefore, "Greece must Select" those who are accepted. But, the Country "has Not Sufficient means" to do so yet just by itself alone.
>>> So that, Nowadays, "the EU and NATO need to Help Better Control" the relevant choices that have to be made each time on the spot. That's the "Solidarity" which is "necessary", President Pavlopoulos pointed out.
+ As for "Turkey", (from where suddenly came all that unprecedented 2015-2016 "Tsunami" of Mass Irregular Migration), Ankara's Government should, at least, "Arrest those (mainly Turkis) Smugglers of illegal immigrants", he added.
German mainstream Medias have already reported, recently, that a secret EU Enquiry Revealed that the Turkish Authorities are, in Fact, ...Selecting Who they'd send to Europe, inter alia, also by ...Excluding Qualified People among Syrian Refugees, and sending Only very Low-Education level, and/or quite Sick, irregular immigrants, Difficult or Impossible to socio-culturaly Integrate.
Already, most, if not all, Christian Refugees (particularly Targetted by ISIL's Terrorists, etc), notoriously try to Avoid Turkey, (allegedly because of a "Heavy Islamic" Control on both "Camps" and/or Mass Migrants' Flows towards Europe monitored by Ankara's regime, Prefering to go Elsewhere : F.e. in Lebanon, (where most live Out of Camps, but welcomed inside Host Family Homes), or even as far as ... Armenia, etc.
Thus, recently, even when Pope Francis made an Official Visit at the Greek Islands receiving the greatest number of Mass Asylum Seekers since 2015, in order also to take 3 Families with him, Back to Italy, to Host them in the Vatican, he was, Surprizingly, Hindered to Find at least 1 Christian out of 3 Migrant Families there, (Despite having Previously Informed the current Government of Greece for his intentions, since several Weeks), being Finaly Obliged to take All 3 of them 100% Muslim !, (with the Obvious Risk to provoke Incomprehension among the Christian Catholic Community in Europe and Worldwide)...
In addition, several ISIL's Deadly Islamist Terrorists were notoriously Hidden among Fake Mass "Refugees" infiltrating the EU through Turkey and via EU + Shenghen Member Greece, as, f.ex. many among those who cowardly Targetted and killed a lot of innocent Civilian People, in a Series of Terror Attacks in Paris the 13th of November 2015, (etc).
Even that individual who notoriously Raped and Killed the Young German Girl Maria Landberger at nearby Fribourg on 2016, had been initially presented and welcomed as a ..."Child Refugee", in Fact, was an Adult Persistent Offender (Multi-Recidivist) Brutal Criminal, who had already Violently Attacked other innocent Victims f.ex. in Greece etc. and Condemned in the Past...
The Real political Refugees would be naturaly Appalled by such scandalously Irresponsible and even Deadly, but repeated "Blunders", which obviously risk to Soil and Discredit in the Public Opinion the Noble Word of real "Refugee", (by a "Coincidence", to the undeniable Political Interest of those who massively Smuggled such Thugs and/or Criminals in Europe, as the notoriously Big and Dramatic Number of Armenian Refugees, Cypriot Refugees, Kurdish Refugees, Greek Refugees, various Dissident Turkish Refugees, etc, obliged to Flee Massive Human Rights Violations from Turkey's Regime and/or Military prove)...
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Hu Jia's prize brings SAKHAROV's wife to "EuroFora" on murders of Journalists Politkofskaya, Gongadze and Adali :
- Elena Bonner : "All Journalists' murders must be fully investigated", without Double Standards.
During a special Mega-Event to celebrate 20 Years of SAKHAROV Prize for "Freedom of Thought", attributed in 2008 by EU Parliament to jailed Chinese Cyber-Dissident Hu JIA, the move was reinforced by strongly criticizing the persisting impunity in three cases of Journalists' Murders, such as POLITKOVSKAYA in Russia, GONGADZE in Ukraine, and ADALI in Turkish-occupied part of Cyprus.
Any bureaucratic doubt about whether Cyber-dissidents like Hu JIA might have, or not, a right to be protected as all Journalists must be, particularly when they take risks to search, find and publish original and critical News on issues of general interest to the society, could not resist to the emotion provoked by the message of his Wife, Zeng JINYAN spectacularly transmitted at a big screen in EU Parliament's hemicycle :
- "The most important and most interesting thing he did was to ... say the Truth :.. to write about the phenomena he observed... He never stopped Publishing.. on websites, so that the Public could learn about the reality .. and understand it. In my view, this has been his greatest contribution", stressed the young wife of the jailed man, eager to cite also the cases of other critical journalists who faced various kinds of "harassment".
- "Welcoming all those who have suffered for defending Human Rights", EU Parliament's President, German MEP Hans Gert POETTERING, who had invited to Strasbourg all former Sakharov prize-winners from various Countries throughout the World, said that "China needs Europe, and Europe needs China : A great nation" with which "we want to have a good relationship", "association and ..friendship". "But we are never going to stop our fight for Human Rights, and No Government can expect this from us".
- "It's impossible to achieve goals of Peace, if Human Rights are left out. In fact, Peace and Human Rights are intrinsequaly linked", added POETTERING.
It's in this spirit that MEPs adopted, on Thursday, a Resolution denouncing that "the criminal
investigation and trial following the murder of (a) Journalist ...raises serious concerns with regard to transparency and respect for the rule of law", when a "brutal killing has not yet been fully investigated and solved in a satisfactory way".
The text refered to dissident Journalist "Anna POLITOVSKAYA", a critic of Tchechen conflict, killed some years ago in Moscow, where Russian Authorities have found, arrested and are currently judging two executants, while also searching to arrest also a 3rd one, allegedly escaped in Belgium. But they have not yet found the instigators.
Similar texts were adopted recently also on dissident Ukranian Journalist Georgiy GONGADZE's murder, for which Ukranian Authorities have at least found, arrested and condemned 2 executants to 12 and 13 Years of jail, but not yet the instigators. For that purpose, they recently accepted an International Experts team to participate to the investigations.
But, it's only for the Murder of dissident Turkish Cypriot Journalist ADALI, in the occupied territories of Cyprus, that Turkey has NOT yet found ANYONE responsible, and even claimed recently inside CoE that it would be "impossible" to do so !
These astonishing differences exist despite the fact that ECHR condemned alike Ukraine and Turkey with 2 Judgements on the same year : 2005, for the murders of Journalists GONGADZE and ADALI, strong critics of Corruption in Ukraine, and of Ankara's policies on mass-influx of Turkish Settlers in the Occupied Territories of Cyprus, respectively.
Regarless of that, CoE's Committee of Ministers, who is entrusted with the duty to supervise execution of ECHR's judgements, has just asked Ukraine's Government to reply to further questions on Gongadze's murder before March 2009, while Turkey, curiously, got a longer postponement for answering questions on Adali's murder, until June...
A comparison of these cases, raises serious questions about Double Standards :
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On TRANSPARENCY :
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On Gongadze's murder, CoE's body speaks even about the participation of
"an INTERNATIONAL group of Experts" in the Investigation, (f.ex. of "Tape Recordings"), accepted by Ukraine.
On the contrary, on Adali's murder, CoE is obliged to repeatedly ask (for a 2nd
time) Turkey whether, at least, it informed the victims' Family, or not...
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- On EFFICIENCY :
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On Gongadze's murder, CoE formally "recalls that the Committee (of Ministers) ..URGED the Ukranian authorities.. to TAKE ALL NECESSARY INVESTIGATIVE STEPS TO ACHIEVE CONCRETE and VISIBLE RESULTS in the INVESTIGATION, aimed at the Identification of the INSTIGATORS and Organisers of the Murder", and "STRONGLY INVITED the Ukranian Authorities to provide information on the PROGRESS IN THE INVESTIGATION", before MARCH 2009.
But, on Adali's murder, on the contrary, CoE's body merely .. "took note" of the "arguments presented by" Cyprus, which denounce the absence of any proof of new "investigation" by Turkey. Following Turkey's own suggestion (!), it simply "noted" that there is "no limitation period" for "any new element" to "lead potentialy (sic !) to a Re-Opening of the Investigation". Without saying who might find any such "new" fact, since Turkey stoped searching... It also POSTPONED the issue until .. JUNE !
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- On the PUNISHMENT OF THOSE RESPONSIBLE :
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- On Gongadze's murder case, Ukranian Authorities already arrested and condemned, at least 2 suspects, to 12 and 13 Years of jail. And on Politkovskaya's murder at least 2 suspects are judged, and a 3rd one "wanted".
On the contrary, on Adali's murder case, the Turkish authorities simply claim that "it had not been possible to obtain new .. information .. on the basis of which criminal charges could be brought against ANY person" !...
Moreover, a LETTER sent by Turkey ...2 Years after CoE's 2006 call to re-investigate anew Adali's murder case, is totally EMPTY of Facts ! As Cypus' Delegation denounced earlier, Turkey's Letter ONLY CLAIMS that a "New Investigation" was made without any result, but does NOT even cite ANY FACT to prove it :
F.ex.,on the crucial issue of the "MOTIVATIONS" behind Adali's murder, noted by ECHR, Turkey MERELY CLAIMS that "all allegations were investigated; without result", but OMITS ANY FACT TO PROVE IT !..(It doesn't even remind which were these "allegations").. .
+ On ECHR's astonishment that the Turkish Occupation regime didn't produce any "BALLISTIC REPORT" on the Shots which murdered Adali, Turkey again repeats, 12 years later, that, still, even until now, "it was not possible to obtain the BalisticReport"...
- As for the astonishing absence of key-WITNESSES' Testimonies, denounced by ECHR, Turkey agains repeats various pretexts avoiding to reveal anything, (Fex. that a person "left" the Occupied Territories "on 2002", or that another witness was heard, but without revealing nothing of what he said, etc).
Turkey obviously "FAILS TO MEET THE CRITICISM made BY THE COURT" for lack of any efficient Investigation in Adali's case, concluded Cyprus' Government.
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Replying to our Question which COMPARED these 3 outstanding cases of "JOURNALISTS MURDERS", Adali, Gongadze and Politkovskaya, in order to avoid "Double Standards" by asking from Ukraine and Russia more than what is asked EU candidate Turkey, many European personalities were critical /
They criticised Ankara's recent claim at the CoE to stop investigating, because it would be "impossible to find anyone" responsible for the 5 bullet shots which killed Kutlu ADALI in front of his Family Home, contrary to the other two Journalists' murders, where Ukraine and Russia at least arrested the executants, searching now for the instigators :
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- "Where was that ? In Turkish Occupied Cyprus ? WITHOUT ANY DOUBT : Any murder of Journalist should be investigated in full ! All these Murders must be investigated !", replied the famous SAKHAROV's wife, Elena BONNER to our question on Adali's case, compared to Gongadze and Politofskaya.
Elena Bonner spoke us EXCLUSIVELY shortly after being honored by the President
of EU Parliament on the occasion of 20 Years of her husband's SAKHAROV Prize.
A strong personality, Sakharov's wife even had to struggle against an anonymous EU staffer who, astonishingly, tried to stop her speaking when h heard our question on "Turkey" (!) : - "Please, let me translate, she continues
speaking, don't stop us !", had to cry Sakharov's daughter, (a Journalist
herself), who was translating her mothers' reply, (obliged to speak louder to
make her voice heard despite the harassment).. (= + Audio Proof !)
Earlier, Elena Bonner also fustigated "Double Standards" at another case, on
Western countries' attitude vis a vis Kosovo and the Kurds : -F.ex. "You have
recognized a few 400.000 Kosovars as an "independent" country, but you still
deny that to 30 millions of Kurds in Turkey !", she denounced.
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- "This (ADALI's murder) is an issue which should be pursued by the Committee
for Human Rights. That's why we have one, and it's its duty to examine cases of
Journalists' murders as the one you referred to. You should bring the case in
front of that Committee", suggested in reply to our question on Adali, EU
Parliament's President, German MEP Hans Gert POETTERING.
- "It's impossible to achieve goals of PEACE, if HUMAN RIGHTS are left out :
in fact, Peace and Human Rights are intrinsequaly linked", added POETTERING.
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+ "For us (European/International Federation of Journalists) it's clear :
Whenever a Journalist is Murdered, the Investigation should continue until
those Responsible are found !", replied earlier to another question on ADALI
EFJ/IFJ's Secretary General, Aidan WHITE.
Speaking as a matter of General Principle, White asked us for "concrete data"
on the execution of ECHR's judgement on Adali case, in order to "look at it in
depth" and "make a formal statement", in comparison with the other Murdered
Journalist case, also pending at CoE's Ministers for completing its execution,
on Ukranian Gongadze.
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From EU Rapporteur on Human Rights, vice-President of EU Parliament Liberties' Committee, MEP Giusto CATANIA, we were told that, since there is an ECHR judgement in both Adali and Gongadge's cases, "Turkey must naturally execute the judgement and make a full and efficient investigation, until those responsible for the Journalist's murder are found and punished".
Even if "we (Catania's "EuroLeft" Group) support Turkey's EU perspectives, this does not mean that Ankara should not behave properly. On the contrary, it means that they have to meet tough conditions, particularly on Human Rights", was added on the occasion of Adali's murder case.
Moreover, "since you raise the issue of Mr. Adali's muder as a part of a Series of Journalist's murders, including fex. Gongadze, Politkovskaya, ao., tthen we (EU) could also act together with CoE's Commissioner on Human Rights, Thomas HAMMARBERG, it was suggested.
- "We (EU) must step up efforts against the problem of IMPUNITY : Real Peace cannot exist without Justice", stressed also this week at EU Parliament in Strasbourg, French Minister on Human Rights, Mrs Rama YADE.
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