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CoE: Greek President Pavlopoulos: Distinguish real Refugees from Irregulars or Criminals via Turkey

Written by ACM
Wednesday, 26 April 2017
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*Strasbourg/CoE/Angelo Marcopolo/- The main Problem about Mass Immigration through Turkey is to Distinguish between Real Refugees and Economic irregular Immigrants or even Criminals, stressed Greek President, Prokopis Pavlopoulos, at CoE's PanEuropean Parliamentary Assembly's Plenary, earlier Today in Strasbourg, Replyig to relevant Questions by representatives of MEPs' Groups.

    - Mainstream Austrian MEP Schenach, speaking on behalf of the Socialist Group, asked President Pavlopoulos (a former ChristianDemocrat/EPP Minister) what kind of European or International "Support" would Need Greece in order to Help the Country cope with the Massive Influx of Asylum Seekers coming via Turkey .


    - Pavlopoulos, after Reminding the Fact that much more than 1 Million of Asylum Seekers suddebly crossed through Turkey into EU and Shenghen area Member Greece, last year, and still Today, Each Day, at least 20 to 60 such Migrants arrive to Greece, where about 60.000 are Enclaved nowadays, gave a Surprising Reply :     


    He didnt' ask neither for EU Funds, despite the Hard Financial situation of the Country, nor for urgent EU ReLocation of the Mass Migrans still remaining in Greece. He only asked for a specific Know-How :

    - The main "Problem is that it's Not Only real Refugees who arrive" in Europe through Turkey.- "They are Easy to Integrate", he Optimisticaly stressed.

    + But, there are also a lot of Irregular (Economic) Migrants, and even "many who are Criminals !", President Pavlopoulos went on to denounce, (reminding that he had a particularly extensive Personal Experience of that matter, since he had already served, in the recent Past, as former Minister of Interior, in a different, 2004-2009 Government, before being elected President on 2015).     

    => Therefore, "Greece must Select" those who are accepted. But, the Country "has Not Sufficient means" to do so yet just by itself alone.
    
    >>> So that, Nowadays, "the EU and NATO need to Help Better Control" the relevant choices that have to be made each time on the spot. That's the "Solidarity" which is "necessary", President Pavlopoulos pointed out.

    + As for "Turkey", (from where suddenly came all that unprecedented 2015-2016 "Tsunami" of Mass Irregular Migration), Ankara's Government should, at least, "Arrest those (mainly Turkis) Smugglers of illegal immigrants", he added.     
        
    German mainstream Medias have already reported, recently, that a secret EU Enquiry Revealed that the Turkish Authorities are, in Fact, ...Selecting Who they'd send to Europe, inter alia, also by ...Excluding Qualified People among Syrian Refugees, and sending Only very Low-Education level, and/or quite Sick, irregular immigrants, Difficult or Impossible to socio-culturaly Integrate.     
    
    Already, most, if not all, Christian Refugees (particularly Targetted by ISIL's Terrorists, etc), notoriously try to Avoid Turkey, (allegedly because of a "Heavy Islamic" Control on both "Camps" and/or Mass Migrants' Flows towards Europe monitored by Ankara's regime, Prefering to go Elsewhere : F.e. in Lebanon, (where most live Out of Camps, but welcomed inside Host Family Homes), or even as far as ... Armenia, etc.     
    
    Thus, recently, even when Pope Francis made an Official Visit at the Greek Islands receiving the greatest number of Mass Asylum Seekers since 2015, in order also to take 3 Families with him, Back to Italy, to Host them in the Vatican, he was, Surprizingly, Hindered to Find at least 1 Christian out of 3 Migrant Families there, (Despite having Previously Informed the current Government of Greece for his intentions, since several Weeks), being Finaly Obliged to take All 3 of them 100% Muslim !, (with the Obvious Risk to provoke Incomprehension among the Christian Catholic Community in Europe and Worldwide)...

    In addition, several ISIL's Deadly Islamist Terrorists were notoriously Hidden among Fake Mass "Refugees" infiltrating the EU through Turkey and via EU + Shenghen Member Greece, as, f.ex. many among those who cowardly Targetted and killed a lot of innocent Civilian People, in a Series of Terror Attacks in Paris the 13th of November 2015, (etc).


    Even that individual who notoriously Raped and Killed the Young German Girl Maria Landberger at nearby Fribourg on 2016, had been initially presented and welcomed as a ..."Child Refugee", in Fact, was an Adult Persistent Offender (Multi-Recidivist) Brutal Criminal, who had already Violently Attacked other innocent Victims f.ex. in Greece etc. and Condemned in the Past...     

    The Real political Refugees would be naturaly Appalled by such scandalously Irresponsible and even Deadly, but repeated "Blunders", which obviously risk to Soil and Discredit in the Public Opinion the Noble Word of real "Refugee", (by a "Coincidence", to the undeniable Political Interest of those who massively Smuggled such Thugs and/or Criminals in Europe, as the notoriously Big and Dramatic Number of Armenian Refugees, Cypriot Refugees, Kurdish Refugees, Greek Refugees, various Dissident Turkish Refugees, etc, obliged to Flee Massive Human Rights Violations from Turkey's Regime and/or Military prove)...                                                                                                                     
    

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    An "Eugenic" loophole Amendment, which might expose to Dangers reminiscent of "3rd Reich's" notorious Genetic Abuses, hidden at the last minute inside an otherwise Good, larger Health policy Package scheduled to be voted on Thursday, was strongly denounced by a coalition of MEPs from various Political Groups and Countries, in a Press Conference held this afternoon at EU Parliament in Strasbourg.

    Mainly calling to "Select Human Embryos", via "Genetic Counselling" and "pre-implantation" Techniques including "Genetic Tests", in order to "Eradicate Hereditary rare Diseases", it might open ways to Dangerous Practices in Future, they denounced in substance.

    But they also made it clear that a much larger Report inside which this Controversial Amendment "No 15" was added in dubious circumstances, officialy destinated to struggle against "Rare Diseases", and drafted by Professor Antonios Trakatellis, was otherwise "an Excellent Report", aiming at a "completely Uncontroversial target" of Health policy on which "all MEPs and Experts are united, believing that Europe should act" to protect People's Health (See "EuroFora"'s earlier News).

    The controversy came at a particularly delicate moment for the EU in relation to Citizens, at the eve of June 2009 EU Elections, and shortly before Ireland re-votes for "Lisbon Treaty"..    

- Denouncing risks of "an Eugenic demand, very similar to what we had during the 3rd Reich in Germany, but now coming from some Scientisists themselves", German ChristianDemocrat/EPP MEP Dr. Peter Liese stressed that critical MEPs were against "Eugenic" engineering with "Selection of Human Embryos", and anything which might ultimately lead up to to a "Selection of Human Race". It doesn't help to "eradicate" Human Lives, he added.


    Several Experts and NGOs expressed "Deep Concern", as f;ex. DR M.C. Cornel of the "European Society of Human Genetics", which stressed, on this occasion, that "the importance of Non-Directiveness in Reproductive issues is a Central characteristic of Human Genetics, after the Atrocities committed in the name of Genetics in the first half or the 20th Century".

     - "This is completely Unacceptable", stressed Italian Liberal MEP Vittorio Prodi, on the Controversial Amendment, also because pushes to "eliminate early Human Life", as he noted.

     - "This opens a Dangerous Road, rather a Motorway", denounced Danish MEP Mrs Margrette Auken, from the "Greens", observing that various similar attempts were made in the Past "not only in Germany, but also in several other Countries, "even at the 1970ies", "f.ex. on forced Sterilisation of Roma" People, and other criticisable situations f.ex. in the UK, in Sweden, etc. as she said.

    + Other NGOs, as f.ex. "LebenHilfe" from Berlin, added that, among various other Risks, could also be that, by exploiting the pre-implantation Genetic Diagnostics and the Selection of "healthy" Embryos, some may "propagate" several "Eugenic" aims, starting f.ex. by pushing to eradicate Human Livies which might "Cost too much" to preserve, ultimately exposing to dangers reminiscent of the "3rd Reich"'s atrocious abuses.

    In consequence, ChristianDemocrats/EPP and "Green" MEPs "decided by Majority to vote against" this Controversial Amendment, anounced to Journalists the 5 MEPs who participated in the Press Conference, representing a wide spectrum, from Liberals to "Greens" and ChristianDemocrats, and from Hungary, Italy, Germany and Danemark up to Ireland (Gay Mitchell), etc.
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    Hungarian ChristianDemocrat MEP Laszlo Surjan said "that it was "Suddenly, at the End of the Procedure" in Committee, that "appeared this (Controversial) Amendment, which has nothing to do" with the main purpose of the Report, on which all agreed.

    He denounced an "Unhonest" move, and called to "avoid this kind of unacceptable situations". Nobody should "Select People", Surjan stressed.

    - "We (MEPs) had No Chance to Discuss" this last-minute Amendment earlier added at a Committee's level, said German MEP Peter Liese

    Speaking to "EuroFora", Dr. Liese, the Spokesman of the ChristianDemocrat/EPP Group in EU Parliament, said that MEPs didn't oppose other references of the Report f.ex. on "Genetic Tests", because they were "no proposals" to impose them, while, on the contrary, there was "a Problem" if anyone attempted to "impose" f.ex. this or that Genetic Technique and "Genetic Counselling", etc. to the People on human reproduction.
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The precise Text :
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    Controversial parts of Amendment No 15 ask mainly "to lead finally to the Eradication" of "Hereditary" "rare diseases", "through Genetic Counselling .., and ..pre-Implantation Selection of healthy Embryos".

    But  EU Rapporteur Professor Trakatellis, said to "EuroFora" that fears should be alleviated by Guarantees that all this should be done only "where appropriate", when it's "not contrary to existing National Law", and "always on a Voluntary basis", according to other Parts of the Amendment.

    He stressed that the main aim was to allow "a free and informed choice of persons involved", without imposing them anything :  - "It's not an obligatory, but advisary" text, he said.

    To make that point clear, he was ready, in agreement with many MEPs, to eventually drop at least that part of the controversial Amendment which initially called for "efforts to ..lead finally to the Eradication of those rare diseases" "which are Hereditary".

    But, until late Wednesday evening, reportedly together with many other MEPs, he stood by all the rest of the controversial Amendment, (fex. on the "Genetic Counselling" and the "pre-implantation Selection of healthy Embryos"), so that critical MEPs, going from ChristianDemocrats as Dr. Liese, to "Greens" or "Ind/Dem", observed to "EuroFora" that "this was not enough" to close the dangerous loophole.

    Particularly since, as Professor Trakatellis noted himself, "this is already allowed to the U.K.", and "other National Legislations would probably follow, sooner or later" in a similar direction. As for a general call to "Eradicate Hereditary rare Diseases", this "should happen, at any case, in practice, de facto", to protect public Health.

    On the contrary, "our goal should be to help patients suffering from rare diseases, not to eradicate the patients. In case of genetic disease risk, the decision should not be guided by scenarios" made by politicians. "Perents who may decide to accept a child, even if handicapped or with genetic disease, must be respected and supported with solidarity", critical MEPs stated.

    - "Any Pressure" to "a patient or couple (who "should be able to make an informed choice consistent with their own values"),"from health Professionals, Public Health Policies or Governemental Institutions, or Society at large, should be avoided", stresses the "European Society for Human Genetics".

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Each MEP's vote will be registered !

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The Socialist Group requested a "Split vote" on the Amendment 15, first without, and afterwards with the words "lead finally to the Eradication" etc.


    But the first "split vote" leaves intact all the other parts of the Controversial Amendment, (i.e. "Genetic Counselling", "Selection of healthy Embryos", etc).

    That's why, 3 Groups of MEPs : ChristianDemocrats/EPP, "Greens/EFA", and "Ind/Dem", have asked for "Roll Call Votes", on everything regarding the Controversial Amendment No 15, and on the final outcome of the resulting Report as amended, which will register all the individual positions to be taken by each MEP.   

Something which will obviously make each MEP think twice before voting for one or another choice, to be sure that he/she will make the right choice in front of EU Citizens, particularly at these pre-Election times...


    Crucial Votes were scheduled between 12 Noon and 1 p.m. local Strasbourg time, in the middle of a long series of various other Reports, and after a long Public Debate on the larger Health policy package, from 9 to 11.50 am.

    The specific Report inside which was hidden the controversial Amendment is due to be debated between 11 and 12 am.

    So that more last-minute Surprises may not be excluded a priori...

    Particularly at the present Historic moment, when even the Institutional Future of the EU depends on the result of a second Referendum on "Lisbon Treaty", later this year, in ...Ireland, a mainly Catholic country, where People are particularly sensitive in such kind of socio-cultural and values issues...
 

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