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Germany : Real "Greens", or Greedy Foreign Lobbies ?

Pisac ACM
18. 11. 2017.

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*Strasbourg/-  -"Where have all the Flowers gone ?", Joan Baez used to sing, during the Vietnam War.

 

But, Nowadays, in Germany, and often elsewhere in Europe, it's once again, rather :  - "Where have all the Real "Greens" gone ?"....


Adding the original : + "Long Time Ago .... Will they ever Learn ?"
(Comp. already, among others, also, f.ex.: http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/baeznogreens.html, etc).


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Today's Crucial Juncture for the Search of a New Governement Coalition in Germany seems to Fit exactly with that Question, given Some so-called "Greens"' intermediaries politicians, who reportedly Press Hard on certain Controversial Blocking points, apparently withOut any Relation with a the Original Ideology of a pro-Nature, pro-Ecology and pro-European, originally, movement, (as it used to be, Back during its Glorious History of the Past, but -as it looks now- No More Alive)... 


F.ex., in Brief, (Time + "Zeitnot", being too Short, at these Decisive Moments of Political Negotiations with a Deadline fixed on Sunday, 6 p.m.) ;

- What protecting Nature has to do with ...Turkey's full EU Accession claims ?  More Massive Naturalisations of Foreigners even with an Eternal "Dual Passport" also of a Foreign Country of Origin ?  Legalisation of Drugs as Cannabis ? Massive Import of even More Non-European Migrants proven to be Not Refugees, (just after 1,5 Million already entered Germany Last Year through Turkey, with Big Problems of Integration, Security, imposed "Islamization", Gettoisation of Poor Neighbourhoods, Aggravation of Schools' "Appart-Heid", ?  (etc)

 

(+See also: http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/moremigrantsingermanytoendeumigrationrole.html).


+ On the Contrary : Where is Nature Protection, when so-called "Greens" reportedly Agree even on Artificial Mass "Genetic Engineering" of Animals (including Mamals) ? And why don't they say Nothing about Genetic Manipulations on Humans (partly agreed previously by CDU concessions to the Socialists) ? Neither Animal, Nor even Human Nature, nowadays Facing notorious Technocratic Dangers by several Artificial Interventions with Controversial possible Repercussion, potentialy Dangerous, does Not Interest them at all, No More ?


Who -and Why - pushed (and may still keep) Some of them to Betray the Historic European, Original, really Humanistic, and Noble "Green" Movement of their predecessors, who were the First to have Opened a Specific "Green" Way to Politics ?



Which real Interests would Profit from some of their most Controversial Demands (or Silence, on other points) nowadays ? (Comp. Supra) 

 

 If they persist in such Diversions against their own History, sooner or later, they Risk to be Wiped Out of mainstream Politics by the People,

as it has just happened in Austria, where a Similar Pseudo-"Green" Party, deviating towards Mass Migration and LBGTI Lobbies only, totaly Disappeared, left withOut Any MP at all, and Replaced by a New Party founded by a Dissident that they had vainly Attempted to Exclude, (See: http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/austrianelectionresults.html).

 

In Germany, a Similar Move, mutatis-mutatis, might include, perhaps, certain "Green" Personalities such as, f.ex., President Kretschmann, Mayor Boris Palmer, some BioEthic values' Defenders, etc.

 

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(NDLR : Photo = Irregular Migrants, imported by Turkish Smugglers, Demonstrating in front of the German Embassy, in Athens, Greece, reportedly asking to Join one or another Parent who managed to enter Europe from Turkey on 2015-2016+, apparently Backed by some undetermined NGOs with Loud, expensive Megaphones [seen at anOther relevant Photo], etc).


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They voted to "freeze" UK Government's draft to put People in jail for 42 Days on "anti-terrorist" suspicion without charge, or they abstained. Don't they look suspect ?
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CoE's debate on UK controversy stirs PanEuropean check of anti-terror suspects' imprisonment

Former Leftists of the Sixties would boil in hot water if they heard PACE's debate on the controversial 42 days detention without charge, currently drafted by the British Government :

A "Socialist" Government, a Socialist PACE Rapporteur and a Socialist Chair of PACE's Legal Committee, opposed a .. "Conservative" amendment (supported by .. Liberals, Democrats, etc), to freeze the measure, in order to protect Citizens' Freedom, by "waiting" until CoE's Venice Committee checks its conformity with Human Rights' principles.

"Left"'s support to Conservative-Lib.Dem's criticism, wasn't enough to obtain a majority, nor to make things as they were back in the good old days, when "Left" and "Right" had a clear meaning, as "liberty" and "restrictions"...

Conservatives and most Democrats were joined by the Left in voting for the "freeze", as well as Liberal Paul Rowen, while Socialist MEP Ivan Popescu, an experienced MEP from Ukraine (PACE Member since 1996-2008) abstained. But most Socialists, added to a few Liberals and EPP's Right, voted against.

Fortunately, someone inside PACE had the wise idea to shorten the Debate for less than 1 Hour, and put it on the Agenda only at the end of an exceptionally busy day, towards the end of the Evening, when most MEPs had already gone to taste wins and foods at various Receptions all around Strasbourg's "European" area : As a result, not even 42 MEPs weren't present..

Socialist Lord Tomlinson accused the leaders of the PanEuropean Assembly, in its highest body : the "Bureau", to "lack wisdom" by deciding to hold a Debate on an issue that neither the Socialist Chair of the Legal Committee, nor its Socialist "reluctant Rapporteur", did "not want to do", ...

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Finally, everybody (critics and supporters alike) was happy to agree, in substance, that the controversial measure "may" gravely violate Human Rights, and therefore, PACE asked Legal Experts of Venice Commission to check UK Government''s plans.

But this might take more than .. 42 Days to do, since PACE's Rapporteur asked the Experts to enlarge their study in a PanEuropean comparison of all that is happening on "anti-terrorism" legislation in 47 CoE Member Countries, including Russia, Turkey and Azerbaidjan..

Bad lack : "The existing 28 days’ detention without charge in the UK is, in comparison with other CoE member countries, one of the most extreme : In Turkey, the period is 7,5 days, in France 6 days, in Russia 5 days, and in .. the U.S. and Canada just 2 and 1 days respectively", denounced Democrat MEP Ms WOLDSETH from Norway..

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"Numerous respected human rights organisations, including Liberty and Human Rights Watch, have expressed serious concern" "The proposed legislation ...could easily lead to extensive abuses. ...Detention for 42 days means six weeks in which one is taken away from one’s family, friends, home and livelihood only to be let off without being charged. That will destroy lives and isolate communities", she added.

- "3 years ago, the UK Government sought to increase the period of pre-charge detention from 14 days to 90 days. Not long before that, it had been only 7 days. There was a vigorous debate ...and a ...compromise was reached of 28 days. We have to ask whether there are proper safeguards in place to extend the period to 42 days. I suggest that there are fatal flaws", reminded British Conservative Clappison.

- "What sort of society holds someone in detention for 42 days and does not have to tell the person who is in prison why they are there, or explain the suspicions that arose and led to their detention? What sort of society believes that that is the way to treat its citizens? That is an appalling injustice, ...A 42-day detention period will not make the UK safer. Instead, it will be the first step to giving in to terrorists; it is saying that we are prepared to sacrifice our democratic rights and the principles for which we have stood for centuries", criticized British Liberal Michael Hanckock

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"Comments made ...by Norwegian delegates are unfortunate", replied British Socialist MEP Ms.Curtis-Thomas, accusing them to "besmirch the reputation of our police force, which is one of the Best in the World", as she said, believing that "there are significant safeguards ...to ensure that individuals are not subjected to unlawful detention"

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PACE "has serious doubts whether ...the draft legislation are in conformity with the ...case-law of the European Court of Human Rights. A lack of ..safeguards may lead to arbitrariness, resulting in breaches of ... liberty and ...right to a fair trial". PACE "is particularly concerned that: ..the judge ..may not be in a position to examine whether there exist reasonable grounds for suspecting that the arrested person has committed an offence;"; that "... representation by a lawyer may be inappropriately restricted or delayed;" that "information on the grounds for suspicion of a person ...may be unduly withheld.. ;" that this "may give rise to arrests without the intention to charge;", and; in general, that "prolonged detention without proper information on the grounds for arrest may constitute inhuman treatment", says Klaus De Vries' Report, adopted with 29 votes against zero.

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Records don't say if it took him 42 Days to draft his Report, but, at least, he knew why...

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