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F.French President Hollande to EF on Notre Dame de Paris' Fire, stresses Need for full Enquiry

Written by ACM
Wednesday, 24 April 2019

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*Strasbourg/International Library Kleber/Angelo Marcopolo/- (EXCLUSIVE). Former President of France, Francois Hollande, during whose term, a planned Arson Attack against "Notre Dame de Paris" had been Prevented, Replying Today to an "Eurofora"s relevant Question, stressed, First of all, that a full Investigation is necessary on the recent Destructive Fire, without excluding anything.

 

 - "Eurofora" reminded the Fact that Hollande's Police had notoriously managed to Prevent a Terrorist Attack against "Notre Dame de Paris", by trying to set it on Fire, in the Past, and, by a striking Coincidence, a leading suspect of that attempt had just been Condemned to Prison only a few Days before the 2019 UnPrecedented Fire which Destroyed last week the Upper Part of that unique UNESCO Monument.

=> According to your Experience, do you think that it might have been a Terrorist Attack, so that this should be Investigated thoroughly, or should it be treated as just an "Accident" ?
                                                                                                                                                              

- Hollande, at first Heared Carefully "Eurofora"s above-mentioned Question, and Noded affirmatively when we evoked those Facts, (among many others).

-  Of course, a full Investigation must be made, on this event, (from all points of view), the former President of France, significantly chose to Stress  from the Outset, at the beginning of his Reply to the above-mentioned "Eurofora"s Question.

- Even if I think that it seems, more Probable, to be an Accident, he speculated, afterwards, referring to the controversial official version of an Attorney, (according to his Statements to the Press), but in a much more Limited way.       

However, the former French President, significantly, Abstained from going as far as to eventually claim that the Hypothesis of a Terrorist Attack might be Excluded from the Investigations a priori, (as some appeared to be enclined to do). On the contrary (Comp. Supra)...    

Indeed, among the above-mentioned Arrested Suspects Judged for a failed Attempt to Burn Down "Notre Dame de Paris" during Hollande's Presidency (Comp. Supra), one had reportedly personal Relations to some among the Worst ISIS' Deadly Terrorists, as that who Cowardly Murdered a Married Couple inside their Family Home and in front of their underage Child, whose Father was working in the Police, and another, who had participated in the Sly Murder of an Old Christian Priest inside a Church...               

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- "What were your Feelings during the Terrorist Attacks ?", was one among the most Frequent Questions raised to Hollande, as he revealed this April 2019, when he published 3 New Chapters to the previous, 2018 Edition of his Book, "Lessons from Power").  

- "People feel InSecure" Nowadays, from several points of view, so that "a reinforced Security", should be Part of a Strengthened Europe in the foreseable Future, he adds there, inter alia.

At the same time, his New Publication lied topically Near Books about "Notre Dame de Paris" in Strasbourg's famous "International Library Kleber", (Comp. relevant Photo)... 

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Topicaly, Hollande was accompagnied mainly by Experienced former MEP, Philippe Bies, Deputy Mayor of Strasbourg, in charge, particularly, of Buildings, (from Homes up to Religious Monuments, the Cathedral excepted, etc), and Head of the Socialdemocrat Group in the Municipal Council of Strasbourg's EuroMetropol, (an atypical Socialist, who has also served as CoE's PanEuropean Rapporteur, f.ex. on Climate Refugees : Comp. his Replies to relevant "Eurofora"s Questions at: ..., etc), who saluted us.

Precisely, one among the Worrying Facts about "Notre Dame de Paris"' reportedly is that an Experts' Report Warning that the Historic Building was particularly Vulnerable to Fire, and Urging to take relevant Security Measures asap, including on Electricity, had been Classified (by a previous Government) and left without any Follow up, without taking any Measure to Rectify. If the classification of such a sensitive Report might be justified, on the Contrary, such a long inaction appears strange, questionable and Dangerous.

Particularly when ISIS' network had already published, since the Beginning of a long Series of Islamist Terrorist Attacks in France and other European Countries (2015-2016+), inter alia, also an Explicit "Fiction" Design, Picturing Paris under Fire and almost in Ruins, with many of its emblematic Buildings quasi-Destroyed, including one which looked very much as the Christian Cathedral of "Notre Dame de Paris", at the Top of which's Ruins was pictured an Armed Jihadist, as a Threat about what Risks to occur in the foreseable Future.

And, indeed, several "Sick" Reactions of "Joy" and/or Threats by various Extremist Islamists were notoriously spoted at the Internet (including by specialized Anti-Terrorist Organisations) Soon after "Notre Dame de Paris" was engulfed by Fire which brought down its Roof, Top Floor, and even the Spire, etc.

A Video picturing someone Walking at the Top of the Cathedral was also published at the WWWeb, and, even if it might be, perhaps, a Hoax, nevertheless, it's a Fact that both the CEO of a performant French Business, specialized in the Maintenance of such Monuments, and in charge of "Notre Dame de Paris" own maintenance work, as well as other sources, afterwards Denounced various cases of "Intrusion" attempts (more or less by different Individuals or Groups) to irregularly Enter inside the Building, particularly on the Roof, often from the South, (where the Fire seems to have Started in this case).

But, given the Fact that, already, during the Last Year (2018), a Record High Number of Arson and various Other Violent Attacks had reportedly targetted Christian Monuments in France, while, even just a few Days before "Notre Dame de Paris"' Fire, the Door of Paris' Biggest Church, "Saint Sulpice",  had faced a Criminal Arson Attack, as the Police was, finaly, obliged to acknowledge, later-on, the overall Context Obviously points More towards an Arson Attack also in the "Notre Dame de Paris" case, than to the  not-credible Hypothesis of a mere Tourist who might have accidentaly forgotten a cigaret while searching to watch the Sunrise...

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+ In Addition to that Context, it's also the Incident's Core Hard Facts which seem, more and more, to plead Against a mere "Accident", but for something else :

- Among others, f.ex., even the Material used at "Notre Dame de Paris"' Burned parts, apparently does Not Fit with such an Hypothesis : Very Old Oak, aged many Centuries, as it was conditioned there, could Not be set Alight and Burn so Easily and Rapidly, argue many Critics.

- Moreover, there "wasN't any Hot Point" in the Works engaged for the Maintenance at that moment, repeats the CEO of the Only Compagny whose Workers were Present that Day on the spot. (A Performant, traditional but recently modernised Family Business, Specialized in many Prestigious Monuments' Maintenance, including Reims and Strasbourg's Cathedrals, and located Near Strasbourg, at North-Eastern France near the German Borders, by the way).

- But strange Discrepancies emerge, already from the outset, including, f.ex., on the exact Number of Persons Interviewed by the competent Police Investigation, which claimed to have immediately checked "All" Workers who were present that Day in the Maintenance Works going on in the Cathedral : An Official declared about 15 persons, but others, afterwards, spoke about only 11...

- Even more Surprizing : A 1st Alert was reportedly checked and found to be a "False" Alert, so that it's Only a 2nd, Later-on, which really Warned the People still present on the spot that a Fire was going-on !

+=> These Facts are Important also because they Lead towards certain Interesting Findings :

Most Publications about "Notre Dame de Paris" claim, indeed, that the Last Worker for Maintenance would have Left +"more than 1 Hour Before" the Fire appeared on the spot.

>>> But, this does Not seem True, simply because, according to official data, the Last Worker would have Left on "5.50 p.m." in the Afternoon, while the above-mentioned 1st Alert for Fire was given on "6.20 p.m", i.e. Only about 30 Minutes afterwards !

All Others had reportedly Left much more Earlier.

By the way, it's Not yet known in Public Who was that "Last Worker", (hired by the Company located near the German Borders, at North-Eastern France, and used so close to Christian Easter).

- In Addition, No Alerts were ever given by the Maintainance Company's 2 relevant machines, while Both those above-mentioned Alerts came from the Cathedral's own machines, (which, however, would be of a Different kind, and Located at Different spots).

(Etc+...)

- In such conditions, an Attorney's claim that "until now, Nothing (sic !) goes in the direction of a Voluntary Act", seems, at least, premature, Exagerated, and too Hasty...

+ Added also to Reports about some Public Officials Hindering certain Experts to Reply to relevant Questions in Public, (f.ex. to the Press), all this, inevitably, Raises UnAnswered yet, critical Questions.

=> Among them, how to avoid Suspicions that a Senior Official's announcement that "this Investigation will be Long (sic !) and Hard", might serve, perhaps, just to Keep People (both in France, and elsewhere in Europe) UnInformed in substance until ... the forthcoming, crucial 23-26 May EU Elections ?

EU Citizens' concerns about Security and Islamist Terrorism are, currently, the 1st Issue across all Europe, according to most recent Polls, European Officials told Journalists, including "Eurofora".

Manifold Reactions, indeed, revealed that Exceptional and Popular, Historic and Religious Monuments, as "Notre Dame de Paris", are widely felt as an important part of all Europe's Culture, Identity, History and Civilisation.

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(Graphics from British Newspaper "the Sun": <<More Popular than Eiffel Tower>> !)

The Future will tell.

But, already, according to a well known, traditional Saying, as a matter of General Principle, in the Political Life, "it' not enough for Caesar's Wife to BE Honest. She must also LOOK Honest !"

In these conditions, a Better and more timely Transparency of the "Notre Dame de Paris"' Investigations would certainly be Welcome...

 

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Hu Jia's prize brings SAKHAROV's wife to "EuroFora" on murders of Journalists Politkofskaya, Gongadze and Adali :

- Elena Bonner : "All Journalists' murders must be fully investigated", without Double Standards.                                                                                    

During a special Mega-Event to celebrate 20 Years of SAKHAROV Prize for "Freedom of Thought", attributed in 2008 by EU Parliament to jailed Chinese Cyber-Dissident Hu JIA, the move was reinforced by strongly criticizing the persisting impunity in three cases of Journalists' Murders, such as POLITKOVSKAYA in Russia, GONGADZE in Ukraine, and ADALI in Turkish-occupied part of Cyprus.

Any bureaucratic doubt about whether Cyber-dissidents like Hu JIA might have, or not, a right to be protected as all Journalists must be, particularly when they take risks to search, find and publish original and critical News on issues of general interest to the society, could not resist to the emotion provoked by the message of his Wife, Zeng JINYAN spectacularly transmitted at a big screen in EU Parliament's hemicycle :

- "The most important and most interesting thing he did was to ... say the Truth :.. to write about the phenomena he observed... He never stopped Publishing.. on websites, so that the Public could learn about the reality .. and understand it.  In my view, this has been his greatest contribution", stressed the young wife of the jailed man, eager to cite also the cases of other critical journalists who faced various kinds of "harassment".

 - "Welcoming all those who have suffered for defending Human Rights", EU Parliament's President, German MEP Hans Gert POETTERING, who had invited to Strasbourg all former Sakharov prize-winners from various Countries throughout the World, said that "China needs Europe, and Europe needs China : A great nation" with which "we want to have a good relationship", "association and ..friendship". "But we are never going to stop our fight for Human Rights, and No Government can expect this from us".

    - "It's impossible  to achieve goals of Peace, if Human Rights are left out. In fact, Peace and Human Rights are intrinsequaly linked", added POETTERING.

    It's in this spirit that MEPs adopted, on Thursday, a Resolution denouncing that "the criminal
investigation and trial following the murder of (a) Journalist ...raises serious concerns with regard to transparency and respect for the rule of law", when a "brutal killing has not yet been fully investigated and solved in a satisfactory way".

    The text refered to dissident Journalist "Anna POLITOVSKAYA", a critic of Tchechen conflict, killed some years ago in Moscow, where Russian Authorities have found, arrested and are currently judging two executants, while also searching to arrest also a 3rd one, allegedly escaped in Belgium. But they have not yet found the instigators.

     Similar texts were adopted recently also on dissident Ukranian Journalist Georgiy GONGADZE's murder, for which Ukranian Authorities have at least found, arrested and condemned 2 executants to 12 and 13 Years of jail, but not yet the instigators. For that purpose, they recently accepted an International Experts team to participate to the investigations.     

But, it's only for the Murder of dissident Turkish Cypriot Journalist ADALI, in the occupied territories of Cyprus, that Turkey has NOT yet found ANYONE responsible, and even claimed recently inside CoE that it would be "impossible" to do so !    

These astonishing differences exist despite the fact that ECHR condemned alike Ukraine and Turkey with 2 Judgements on the same year : 2005, for the murders of  Journalists GONGADZE and ADALI, strong critics of Corruption in Ukraine, and of Ankara's policies on mass-influx of Turkish Settlers in the Occupied Territories of Cyprus, respectively.    

Regarless of that, CoE's Committee of Ministers, who is entrusted with the duty to supervise execution of ECHR's judgements, has just asked Ukraine's Government to reply to further questions on Gongadze's murder before March 2009, while Turkey, curiously, got a longer postponement for answering questions on Adali's murder, until June...   

A comparison of these cases, raises serious questions about Double Standards :

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On TRANSPARENCY :
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    On Gongadze's murder, CoE's body speaks even about the participation of
"an INTERNATIONAL group of Experts" in the Investigation, (f.ex. of "Tape Recordings"), accepted by Ukraine.
    On the contrary, on Adali's murder, CoE is obliged to repeatedly ask (for a 2nd
time) Turkey whether, at least, it informed the victims' Family, or not...
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- On EFFICIENCY :
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On Gongadze's murder, CoE formally "recalls that the Committee (of Ministers) ..URGED the Ukranian authorities.. to TAKE ALL NECESSARY INVESTIGATIVE STEPS TO ACHIEVE CONCRETE and VISIBLE RESULTS in the INVESTIGATION, aimed at the Identification of the INSTIGATORS and Organisers of the Murder", and "STRONGLY INVITED the Ukranian Authorities to provide information on the PROGRESS IN THE INVESTIGATION", before MARCH 2009.

But, on Adali's murder, on the contrary, CoE's body merely .. "took note" of the "arguments presented by" Cyprus, which denounce the absence of any proof of new "investigation" by Turkey. Following Turkey's own suggestion (!), it simply "noted" that there is "no limitation period" for "any new element" to "lead potentialy (sic !) to a Re-Opening of the Investigation". Without saying who might find any such "new" fact, since Turkey stoped searching... It also POSTPONED the issue until .. JUNE  !
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 - On the PUNISHMENT OF THOSE RESPONSIBLE :
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 -  On Gongadze's murder case, Ukranian Authorities already arrested and condemned, at least 2 suspects, to 12 and 13 Years of jail. And on Politkovskaya's murder at least 2 suspects are judged, and a 3rd one "wanted".

On the contrary, on Adali's murder case, the Turkish authorities simply claim that "it had not been possible to obtain new .. information .. on the basis of which criminal charges could be brought against ANY person" !...

Moreover,  a LETTER sent by Turkey ...2 Years after CoE's 2006 call to re-investigate anew Adali's murder case, is totally EMPTY of Facts ! As Cypus' Delegation denounced earlier, Turkey's Letter ONLY CLAIMS that a "New Investigation" was made without any result, but does NOT even cite ANY FACT to prove it :

F.ex.,on the crucial issue of the "MOTIVATIONS" behind Adali's murder, noted by ECHR, Turkey MERELY CLAIMS that "all allegations  were investigated; without result", but OMITS ANY FACT TO PROVE IT !..(It doesn't even remind which were these "allegations").. .

+ On ECHR's astonishment that the Turkish Occupation regime didn't produce any "BALLISTIC REPORT" on the Shots which murdered Adali, Turkey again repeats, 12 years later, that, still, even until now, "it  was not possible to obtain the BalisticReport"...

- As for the astonishing absence of key-WITNESSES' Testimonies, denounced by ECHR, Turkey agains repeats various pretexts avoiding to reveal anything, (Fex. that a person "left" the Occupied Territories  "on 2002", or that another witness was heard, but without revealing nothing of what he said, etc).

Turkey obviously "FAILS TO MEET THE CRITICISM made BY THE COURT" for lack of any efficient Investigation in Adali's case, concluded Cyprus' Government.
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Replying to our Question which COMPARED these 3 outstanding cases of "JOURNALISTS MURDERS", Adali, Gongadze and Politkovskaya, in order to avoid "Double Standards" by asking from Ukraine and Russia more than what is asked EU candidate Turkey, many European personalities were critical /

They criticised Ankara's recent claim at the CoE to stop investigating, because it would be "impossible to find anyone" responsible for the 5 bullet shots which killed Kutlu ADALI in front of his Family Home, contrary to the other two Journalists' murders, where Ukraine and Russia at least arrested the executants, searching now for the instigators :
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    - "Where was that ? In Turkish Occupied Cyprus ? WITHOUT ANY DOUBT : Any murder of Journalist should be investigated in full ! All these Murders must be investigated !", replied the famous SAKHAROV's wife, Elena BONNER to our question on Adali's case, compared to Gongadze and Politofskaya.

    Elena Bonner spoke us EXCLUSIVELY shortly after being honored by the President
of EU Parliament on the occasion of 20 Years of her husband's SAKHAROV Prize.

    A strong personality, Sakharov's wife even had to struggle against an anonymous EU staffer who, astonishingly, tried to stop her speaking when h heard our question on "Turkey" (!) : - "Please, let me translate, she continues
speaking, don't stop us !", had to cry Sakharov's daughter, (a Journalist
herself), who was translating her mothers' reply, (obliged to speak louder to
make her voice heard despite the harassment).. (= + Audio Proof !)

    Earlier, Elena Bonner also fustigated "Double Standards" at another case, on
Western countries' attitude vis a vis Kosovo and the Kurds : -F.ex. "You have
recognized a few 400.000 Kosovars as an "independent" country, but you still
deny that to 30 millions of Kurds in Turkey !", she denounced.
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    - "This (ADALI's murder) is an issue which should be pursued by the Committee
for Human Rights. That's why we have one, and it's its duty to examine cases of
Journalists' murders as the one you referred to. You should bring the case in
front of that Committee", suggested in reply to our question on Adali, EU
Parliament's President, German MEP Hans Gert POETTERING.

    - "It's impossible  to achieve goals of PEACE, if HUMAN RIGHTS are left out :
in fact, Peace and Human Rights are intrinsequaly linked", added POETTERING.
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    + "For us (European/International Federation of Journalists) it's clear :
Whenever a Journalist is Murdered, the Investigation should continue until
those Responsible are found !", replied earlier to another question on ADALI
EFJ/IFJ's Secretary General, Aidan WHITE.

    Speaking as a matter of General Principle, White asked us for "concrete data"
on the execution of ECHR's judgement on Adali case, in order to "look at it in
depth" and "make a formal statement", in comparison with the other Murdered
Journalist case, also pending at CoE's  Ministers for completing its execution,
on Ukranian Gongadze.
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     From EU Rapporteur on Human Rights, vice-President of EU Parliament Liberties' Committee, MEP Giusto CATANIA, we were told that, since there is an ECHR judgement in both Adali and Gongadge's cases, "Turkey must naturally execute the judgement and make a full and efficient investigation, until those responsible for the Journalist's murder are found and punished".

    Even if "we (Catania's "EuroLeft" Group) support Turkey's EU perspectives, this does not mean that Ankara should not behave properly. On the contrary, it means that they have to meet tough conditions, particularly on Human Rights", was added on the occasion of Adali's murder case.

    Moreover, "since you raise the issue of Mr. Adali's muder as a part of a Series of Journalist's murders, including fex. Gongadze, Politkovskaya, ao., tthen we (EU) could also act together with CoE's Commissioner on Human Rights, Thomas HAMMARBERG, it was suggested.

    - "We (EU) must step up efforts against the problem of IMPUNITY : Real Peace cannot exist without Justice",  stressed also this week at EU Parliament in Strasbourg, French Minister on Human Rights, Mrs Rama YADE.
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