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F.French President Hollande to EF on Notre Dame de Paris' Fire, stresses Need for full Enquiry
F.French President Hollande to EF on Notre Dame de Paris' Fire, stresses Need for full Enquiry

*Strasbourg/International Library Kleber/Angelo Marcopolo/- (EXCLUSIVE). Former President of France, Francois Hollande, during whose term, a planned Arson Attack against "Notre Dame de Paris" had been Prevented, Replying Today to an "Eurofora"s relevant Question, stressed, First of all, that a full Investigation is necessary on the recent Destructive Fire, without excluding anything.
- "Eurofora" reminded the Fact that Hollande's Police had notoriously managed to Prevent a Terrorist Attack against "Notre Dame de Paris", by trying to set it on Fire, in the Past, and, by a striking Coincidence, a leading suspect of that attempt had just been Condemned to Prison only a few Days before the 2019 UnPrecedented Fire which Destroyed last week the Upper Part of that unique UNESCO Monument.
=> According to your Experience, do you think that it might have been a Terrorist Attack, so that this should be Investigated thoroughly, or should it be treated as just an "Accident" ?
- Hollande, at first Heared Carefully "Eurofora"s above-mentioned Question, and Noded affirmatively when we evoked those Facts, (among many others).
- Of course, a full Investigation must be made, on this event, (from all points of view), the former President of France, significantly chose to Stress from the Outset, at the beginning of his Reply to the above-mentioned "Eurofora"s Question.
- Even if I think that it seems, more Probable, to be an Accident, he speculated, afterwards, referring to the controversial official version of an Attorney, (according to his Statements to the Press), but in a much more Limited way.
However, the former French President, significantly, Abstained from going as far as to eventually claim that the Hypothesis of a Terrorist Attack might be Excluded from the Investigations a priori, (as some appeared to be enclined to do). On the contrary (Comp. Supra)...
Indeed, among the above-mentioned Arrested Suspects Judged for a failed Attempt to Burn Down "Notre Dame de Paris" during Hollande's Presidency (Comp. Supra), one had reportedly personal Relations to some among the Worst ISIS' Deadly Terrorists, as that who Cowardly Murdered a Married Couple inside their Family Home and in front of their underage Child, whose Father was working in the Police, and another, who had participated in the Sly Murder of an Old Christian Priest inside a Church...
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- "What were your Feelings during the Terrorist Attacks ?", was one among the most Frequent Questions raised to Hollande, as he revealed this April 2019, when he published 3 New Chapters to the previous, 2018 Edition of his Book, "Lessons from Power").
- "People feel InSecure" Nowadays, from several points of view, so that "a reinforced Security", should be Part of a Strengthened Europe in the foreseable Future, he adds there, inter alia.
At the same time, his New Publication lied topically Near Books about "Notre Dame de Paris" in Strasbourg's famous "International Library Kleber", (Comp. relevant Photo)...
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Topicaly, Hollande was accompagnied mainly by Experienced former MEP, Philippe Bies, Deputy Mayor of Strasbourg, in charge, particularly, of Buildings, (from Homes up to Religious Monuments, the Cathedral excepted, etc), and Head of the Socialdemocrat Group in the Municipal Council of Strasbourg's EuroMetropol, (an atypical Socialist, who has also served as CoE's PanEuropean Rapporteur, f.ex. on Climate Refugees : Comp. his Replies to relevant "Eurofora"s Questions at: ..., etc), who saluted us.
Precisely, one among the Worrying Facts about "Notre Dame de Paris"' reportedly is that an Experts' Report Warning that the Historic Building was particularly Vulnerable to Fire, and Urging to take relevant Security Measures asap, including on Electricity, had been Classified (by a previous Government) and left without any Follow up, without taking any Measure to Rectify. If the classification of such a sensitive Report might be justified, on the Contrary, such a long inaction appears strange, questionable and Dangerous.
Particularly when ISIS' network had already published, since the Beginning of a long Series of Islamist Terrorist Attacks in France and other European Countries (2015-2016+), inter alia, also an Explicit "Fiction" Design, Picturing Paris under Fire and almost in Ruins, with many of its emblematic Buildings quasi-Destroyed, including one which looked very much as the Christian Cathedral of "Notre Dame de Paris", at the Top of which's Ruins was pictured an Armed Jihadist, as a Threat about what Risks to occur in the foreseable Future.
And, indeed, several "Sick" Reactions of "Joy" and/or Threats by various Extremist Islamists were notoriously spoted at the Internet (including by specialized Anti-Terrorist Organisations) Soon after "Notre Dame de Paris" was engulfed by Fire which brought down its Roof, Top Floor, and even the Spire, etc.
A Video picturing someone Walking at the Top of the Cathedral was also published at the WWWeb, and, even if it might be, perhaps, a Hoax, nevertheless, it's a Fact that both the CEO of a performant French Business, specialized in the Maintenance of such Monuments, and in charge of "Notre Dame de Paris" own maintenance work, as well as other sources, afterwards Denounced various cases of "Intrusion" attempts (more or less by different Individuals or Groups) to irregularly Enter inside the Building, particularly on the Roof, often from the South, (where the Fire seems to have Started in this case).
But, given the Fact that, already, during the Last Year (2018), a Record High Number of Arson and various Other Violent Attacks had reportedly targetted Christian Monuments in France, while, even just a few Days before "Notre Dame de Paris"' Fire, the Door of Paris' Biggest Church, "Saint Sulpice", had faced a Criminal Arson Attack, as the Police was, finaly, obliged to acknowledge, later-on, the overall Context Obviously points More towards an Arson Attack also in the "Notre Dame de Paris" case, than to the not-credible Hypothesis of a mere Tourist who might have accidentaly forgotten a cigaret while searching to watch the Sunrise...
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+ In Addition to that Context, it's also the Incident's Core Hard Facts which seem, more and more, to plead Against a mere "Accident", but for something else :
- Among others, f.ex., even the Material used at "Notre Dame de Paris"' Burned parts, apparently does Not Fit with such an Hypothesis : Very Old Oak, aged many Centuries, as it was conditioned there, could Not be set Alight and Burn so Easily and Rapidly, argue many Critics.
- Moreover, there "wasN't any Hot Point" in the Works engaged for the Maintenance at that moment, repeats the CEO of the Only Compagny whose Workers were Present that Day on the spot. (A Performant, traditional but recently modernised Family Business, Specialized in many Prestigious Monuments' Maintenance, including Reims and Strasbourg's Cathedrals, and located Near Strasbourg, at North-Eastern France near the German Borders, by the way).
- But strange Discrepancies emerge, already from the outset, including, f.ex., on the exact Number of Persons Interviewed by the competent Police Investigation, which claimed to have immediately checked "All" Workers who were present that Day in the Maintenance Works going on in the Cathedral : An Official declared about 15 persons, but others, afterwards, spoke about only 11...
- Even more Surprizing : A 1st Alert was reportedly checked and found to be a "False" Alert, so that it's Only a 2nd, Later-on, which really Warned the People still present on the spot that a Fire was going-on !
+=> These Facts are Important also because they Lead towards certain Interesting Findings :
Most Publications about "Notre Dame de Paris" claim, indeed, that the Last Worker for Maintenance would have Left +"more than 1 Hour Before" the Fire appeared on the spot.
>>> But, this does Not seem True, simply because, according to official data, the Last Worker would have Left on "5.50 p.m." in the Afternoon, while the above-mentioned 1st Alert for Fire was given on "6.20 p.m", i.e. Only about 30 Minutes afterwards !
All Others had reportedly Left much more Earlier.
By the way, it's Not yet known in Public Who was that "Last Worker", (hired by the Company located near the German Borders, at North-Eastern France, and used so close to Christian Easter).
- In Addition, No Alerts were ever given by the Maintainance Company's 2 relevant machines, while Both those above-mentioned Alerts came from the Cathedral's own machines, (which, however, would be of a Different kind, and Located at Different spots).
(Etc+...)
- In such conditions, an Attorney's claim that "until now, Nothing (sic !) goes in the direction of a Voluntary Act", seems, at least, premature, Exagerated, and too Hasty...
+ Added also to Reports about some Public Officials Hindering certain Experts to Reply to relevant Questions in Public, (f.ex. to the Press), all this, inevitably, Raises UnAnswered yet, critical Questions.
=> Among them, how to avoid Suspicions that a Senior Official's announcement that "this Investigation will be Long (sic !) and Hard", might serve, perhaps, just to Keep People (both in France, and elsewhere in Europe) UnInformed in substance until ... the forthcoming, crucial 23-26 May EU Elections ?
EU Citizens' concerns about Security and Islamist Terrorism are, currently, the 1st Issue across all Europe, according to most recent Polls, European Officials told Journalists, including "Eurofora".
Manifold Reactions, indeed, revealed that Exceptional and Popular, Historic and Religious Monuments, as "Notre Dame de Paris", are widely felt as an important part of all Europe's Culture, Identity, History and Civilisation.

(Graphics from British Newspaper "the Sun": <<More Popular than Eiffel Tower>> !)
The Future will tell.
But, already, according to a well known, traditional Saying, as a matter of General Principle, in the Political Life, "it' not enough for Caesar's Wife to BE Honest. She must also LOOK Honest !"
In these conditions, a Better and more timely Transparency of the "Notre Dame de Paris"' Investigations would certainly be Welcome...
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The official presentation of a "Program" respecting People's choices voted in the June 7, 2009 EU Elections, to be debated in EU Council and EU Parliament during its 1st Session on July in Strasbourg, is the No 1 Priority, according to Democratic principles, for the Franco-German axis, said the main winners at the ballot box, French President Nicolas Sarkozy and German Chancellor Angie Merkel.
They stressed that the New EU Commission's President must have a "Program" in favor of an EU which "protects" its Citizens, regulates financial markets and aims at a "Political" Europe" : a wording they have used as incompatible with Turkey's controversial EU bid.
They also declared ready for a "political" endorsment of "Mr. Barroso's candidacy" in June's EU Council, considering that an official decision would have to be made after EU Parliament's debates and votes, possibly from next month (July), with the legally necessary final acceptance shortly after Lisbon Treaty's entry into force, hoped for September or October.
- "A Program, and Mr. Barroso" : This resumes, in substance, the anouncements made by Sarkozy and Merkel, on the question of current EU Commission's President, Barroso's declared wish to succeed to himself for a second mandate, to be extended during the following 5 years.
In their 1st meeting after EU Elections, they observed that "the Franco-German axis counted in European Elections' campaign... But, we both keep a realistic view : We saw the number of those who abstained, and we must absolutely give them an answer. We also see the disilusionment of an important number of Europeans vis a vis Europe, and we are aware of the responsibilities we have".

- The "Duty" of the new EU Commission's President, after June 7, 2009 EU Elections' result, "is to act for a Europe which protects the Europeans, to commit himself into working for a better Regulation of Financial transactions, ... and to have a Political will for Europe", underlined Sarkozy.
Therefore, "we have asked M. Barroso... to clarify, to officialy present the intentions he has", he anounced.
- "We want to speak also about the Programme", explained Merkel.
- "It's important that for the next EU Parliament's mandate (2009-2014) we take the right Decisions for Europe. Obviously on Persons, but mainly Decisions on Issues", she stressed.
- "It's not simply a question of a Person, it's also a question of a Programme". We are "really asking Mr. Barroso to commit himself on a Program, and on Principles, on Values", Sarkozy added.
EU President-in-office, Czech Prime Minister Jan Fischer, accepted the Franco-German stance :
- "Barroso must present his Programme. The Czech Presidency agrees with that", Fischer reportedly said later, after meeting Sarkozy.
But Press reports from Brussels claimed that Barroso had preferred to be officially appointed by EU Council since June, (i.e. next week), "because this was implied by the current Treaty of Nice, according to him", and considered any delay until the possible ratification of the new, Lisbon Treaty on September/October, as "undemocratic".
- "At any case, independently of what Germany and France ask, it's also EU Parliament's wish". "We shall propose Mr Barroso's candidacy... But even in the framework of Nice Treaty, EU Parliament has to be associated in this Decision", the French President observed.
If this is correctly done, then "we support Mr. Barroso's candidature", and "if the (EU) Parliament agrees, we might ratify this decision since July", (i.e. next month), they both said.

- "France and Germany support Baroso's candidacy, But we want to speak also on the Program. We believe that this Program should be established in close cooperation with EU Parliament, and that's why we have followed an appropriate way", said Merkel. - If EU Parliament wants, this election can take place on July, but this must be done in full agreement.
- "We shall support Mr. Barroso's candidacy, without doubt", said Sarkozy. "But we have asked from Mr. Barroso, as I told him yesterday, to put into detail.. his intentions, at the eve of his 2nd mandate, if the situation avails itself.
France and Germany "don't want to take an Official Legal Decision by writting" during "the next (EU) Council" (on June 18-19), declared Sarkozy. Because they prefer, at this stage, only "a Political decision" on June, "so that we (EU Council) can work together with EU Parliament", which starts to meet only Next Month, since July in Srasbourg, "leaving a Legal decision by writting for later".
- "If the Conditions are fuillfiled in EU Parliament, we (EU Council) are ready to give the agreement and make it offficial", said Merkel
- "But, now we are working in the base of Nice Treaty. If tommorow we want to work in the spirit of Lisbon Treaty, we have to find a proper way", she added.
- "Of course it's Legally complicated, because we are going to make a Political proposal to the forthcoming Council, for an EU Commission's President, on the basis of Nice Treaty : So, we (EU Council) will not appoint the Commissioners. Only the President. If EU Parliament agrees, it could endorse this position on July", explained Sarkozy.
But, on Autumn, "if Ireland ratifies Lisbon Treaty, there will be, at any case, a 2nd Decision, to appoint the Commission's President, this time on the basis of Lisbon treaty, and then, we, the EU Member States, would have to appoint (also) the EU Commissioners", he added.
As for the precise Timing : - "Everything is suspended until the Irish vote... Now, we must all make everything possible to help Ireland to say "Yes"" to Lisbon Treaty... The Irish Referendum, ..will take place either on September or on October. It's a Question which depends on the Irish. And, then, we shall have the Choice of the Candidates for the permanent Institutions of Europe".
However, "if Ireland says No, we, French and Germans, have to assume our responsibilities, and we'll do so", he concluded.
But British and Swedish governments were reportedly eager to have a final EU Council decision on Barroso since this month, on June's European Council. While the other EU Member Countries are divided, several of them preferring to wait until EU Parliament pronounces itself, on July, and/or until Lisbon Treaty might be ratified by Ireland at the beginning of the Autumn. Barroso's current mandate ends on November.
There are also various, contradictory and/or unpredictable reactions inside EU Parliament vis a vis Barroso's wish to continue a 2nd mandate, because many MEPs are openly or secretly opposed, reluctant, or hesitating.
In the biggest EU Countries, as France and Germany, EU Citizens voted on June 2009 EU Elections for a renovated, non-technocratic but Political Europe which cares for its Citizens, with an Identity, Values and Borders, declared incompatible with Turkey's controversial EU bid, by mainstream, pro-European Governing Parties. Similar choices were also supported in several other small or medium EU Countries.
On the contrary, whenever, in other Countries, Governing and other mainstream Parties didn't make these choices or eluded them, EU Citizens massively voted for euro-Sceptics whenever they were the only ones to to promise anti-bureacratic change and oppose Turkey's demand to enter into the EU, (f.ex. in the UK, Netherlands, etc).
It's seems to be an Open Question whether Sarkozy and Merkel's conditions will be really accepted by Barroso, who was appointed on 2004 in a different political context, (with Socialist Prime Ministers in Germany, France, etc), had rejected in the Past the idea of EU becoming "equal to the USA" as "ridiculous", and pushed for Turkey's contoversial EU bid, trying to "soften" or contain the changes desired by the People who voted for Merkel and Sarkozy with another policy vis a vis Turkey on 2005 in Germany and on 2007 in France, as they did all over Europe on 2009.
In addition to many EPP Governments, it's 3 remaining Socialist Prime Ministers : Gordon Brown in the UK, Zapatero in Spain, and Socrates in Prortugal, who support Barroso, as well as Liberal Swedish Prime Minister Reinfeldt. But their Parties lost the June 2009 EU Elections.
Questioned whether there was still "Time" for "other" possible "Candidates", Sarkozy and Merkel did not deny, nor made any comment on that, but simply said that "it's not for us to make publicity for any candidates. We anounced our choice ("A Program, and Mr. Barroso"). But we respect any other candidate".
Among various other names cited are former Belgian Prime Minister Verhofstadt, former UNO's Human Rights Commissioner Mary Robinson of Ireland, Italian former EU Commission's vice-President Monti, etc. Meanwhile, Luxembourg's PM Juncker, (who had been unanimously accepted by EU Council for EU Commission's Presidency on 2004, but refused), announced his intention to resign from "EuroGroup"'s Chair. Thus, he might be available for another Top EU job.
As "EuroFora"'s "opinion" said (See publication dated 9/6/09) : - "If the current candidates (i.e. Barroso, etc) to the Top EU jobs promise and guarantee to respect People's democratic choices, then, it's OK".
"Otherwise, Europe must find new candidates, really motivated and able to implement these democratic choices of the People."
Because, "in Democracy, the forthcoming choices for EU's Top Jobs,...should be made according to EU Citizens' Votes in June 7, 2009 European Elections, and main EU Governments' strategic policies".

















