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Polls: 91% of Europeans for EF Project on EU-Citizens interaction before Deciding on their Future

Автор ACM
Saturday, 08 May 2021
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*Strasbourg/Angelo Marcopolo/-
As it was Already Voted and Adopted by the EuroMetropole of Strasbourg Citizens' Assembly, on "Eurofora"s proposal, in the context of French President Emmanuel Macron's "Great Debate" as early as since 2019 (*), it's also an EU-Wide Polls from the End of 2020, just fully Published by EU Parliament and Commission on 2021, at the Eve of the Launch of EU's landmark "Conference on the Future of Europe" (2021-2022), scheduled on "Europe"'s Day, 9 May, here, (with Speeches from Presidents Macron, Sassoli, and Other Officials), and, precisely, on the Anniversary of the Historic Victory against Nazism, which opened an Era officialy based on Peace, Human Rights, Democracy and Rule of Law throughout Europe, (also with the Creation of the CoE, 72 Years earlier, since 1949, etc), revealed that an UnExpected, Huge Majority of EU Citizens seem to practicaly Back the Main Idea of a Previous Interaction, Between EU Citizens and Decision-Makers, before Measures affecting their Lives and/or Society at large might be taken...

- Total or Partial Agreement with such a stance was reportedly Endorsed by 91% or 92% of the People consulted.


- The Key-point was Not Elections, but "Decisions" taken by Public Authorities.


- It was clear that relevant Action should be taken mainly Before Decisions, (and Not  Afterwards).


- The Concrete Content of what exactly should be done by the Public Authorities was Not Specified, leaving a kind of Discretionary Choice for the most Adequate Moves, almost as in "Eurofora"'s proposal.


- But it was obvious that this concerned the Public Decision-Making Process, including some kind of Exchange or Dialogue, between Politicians and Citizens, ("take into Account Citizens' Voice").


- The possibility of a Legal Control by a Judge was left Open, as in "Eurofora"'s project, (where it may play a notable potential role).


- Ibid, for possible Legal (and Not Only Political) Sanctions, in case of Abuse.  


- The Integration and development of such Mechanisms in the System of  nowadays European Societies appears quite Easy, given the Availability of relevant contemporary Tools. 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
- Curiously, that Poll was made between October and November 2020, But wasN't fully Published before May 2021 !


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(*) See : http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/euroforaideasendorsedbystrasbourggreatdebate.html

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They voted to "freeze" UK Government's draft to put People in jail for 42 Days on "anti-terrorist" suspicion without charge, or they abstained. Don't they look suspect ?
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CoE's debate on UK controversy stirs PanEuropean check of anti-terror suspects' imprisonment

Former Leftists of the Sixties would boil in hot water if they heard PACE's debate on the controversial 42 days detention without charge, currently drafted by the British Government :

A "Socialist" Government, a Socialist PACE Rapporteur and a Socialist Chair of PACE's Legal Committee, opposed a .. "Conservative" amendment (supported by .. Liberals, Democrats, etc), to freeze the measure, in order to protect Citizens' Freedom, by "waiting" until CoE's Venice Committee checks its conformity with Human Rights' principles.

"Left"'s support to Conservative-Lib.Dem's criticism, wasn't enough to obtain a majority, nor to make things as they were back in the good old days, when "Left" and "Right" had a clear meaning, as "liberty" and "restrictions"...

Conservatives and most Democrats were joined by the Left in voting for the "freeze", as well as Liberal Paul Rowen, while Socialist MEP Ivan Popescu, an experienced MEP from Ukraine (PACE Member since 1996-2008) abstained. But most Socialists, added to a few Liberals and EPP's Right, voted against.

Fortunately, someone inside PACE had the wise idea to shorten the Debate for less than 1 Hour, and put it on the Agenda only at the end of an exceptionally busy day, towards the end of the Evening, when most MEPs had already gone to taste wins and foods at various Receptions all around Strasbourg's "European" area : As a result, not even 42 MEPs weren't present..

Socialist Lord Tomlinson accused the leaders of the PanEuropean Assembly, in its highest body : the "Bureau", to "lack wisdom" by deciding to hold a Debate on an issue that neither the Socialist Chair of the Legal Committee, nor its Socialist "reluctant Rapporteur", did "not want to do", ...

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Finally, everybody (critics and supporters alike) was happy to agree, in substance, that the controversial measure "may" gravely violate Human Rights, and therefore, PACE asked Legal Experts of Venice Commission to check UK Government''s plans.

But this might take more than .. 42 Days to do, since PACE's Rapporteur asked the Experts to enlarge their study in a PanEuropean comparison of all that is happening on "anti-terrorism" legislation in 47 CoE Member Countries, including Russia, Turkey and Azerbaidjan..

Bad lack : "The existing 28 days’ detention without charge in the UK is, in comparison with other CoE member countries, one of the most extreme : In Turkey, the period is 7,5 days, in France 6 days, in Russia 5 days, and in .. the U.S. and Canada just 2 and 1 days respectively", denounced Democrat MEP Ms WOLDSETH from Norway..

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"Numerous respected human rights organisations, including Liberty and Human Rights Watch, have expressed serious concern" "The proposed legislation ...could easily lead to extensive abuses. ...Detention for 42 days means six weeks in which one is taken away from one’s family, friends, home and livelihood only to be let off without being charged. That will destroy lives and isolate communities", she added.

- "3 years ago, the UK Government sought to increase the period of pre-charge detention from 14 days to 90 days. Not long before that, it had been only 7 days. There was a vigorous debate ...and a ...compromise was reached of 28 days. We have to ask whether there are proper safeguards in place to extend the period to 42 days. I suggest that there are fatal flaws", reminded British Conservative Clappison.

- "What sort of society holds someone in detention for 42 days and does not have to tell the person who is in prison why they are there, or explain the suspicions that arose and led to their detention? What sort of society believes that that is the way to treat its citizens? That is an appalling injustice, ...A 42-day detention period will not make the UK safer. Instead, it will be the first step to giving in to terrorists; it is saying that we are prepared to sacrifice our democratic rights and the principles for which we have stood for centuries", criticized British Liberal Michael Hanckock

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"Comments made ...by Norwegian delegates are unfortunate", replied British Socialist MEP Ms.Curtis-Thomas, accusing them to "besmirch the reputation of our police force, which is one of the Best in the World", as she said, believing that "there are significant safeguards ...to ensure that individuals are not subjected to unlawful detention"

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PACE "has serious doubts whether ...the draft legislation are in conformity with the ...case-law of the European Court of Human Rights. A lack of ..safeguards may lead to arbitrariness, resulting in breaches of ... liberty and ...right to a fair trial". PACE "is particularly concerned that: ..the judge ..may not be in a position to examine whether there exist reasonable grounds for suspecting that the arrested person has committed an offence;"; that "... representation by a lawyer may be inappropriately restricted or delayed;" that "information on the grounds for suspicion of a person ...may be unduly withheld.. ;" that this "may give rise to arrests without the intention to charge;", and; in general, that "prolonged detention without proper information on the grounds for arrest may constitute inhuman treatment", says Klaus De Vries' Report, adopted with 29 votes against zero.

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Records don't say if it took him 42 Days to draft his Report, but, at least, he knew why...

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2009 EU Elections were won by Parties against Technocracy and Turkey's controversial EU bid, while the 1999-2004 Majority Abstention trend decelerated. What should be done in 2009-2014 ?

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