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EPP Leaders to EF on Orban/Hungary+ : Unity in Democratic+Mediatic Polyphony, eve of 2019 Elections

Written by ACM
Wednesday, 19 September 2018
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*Salzburg(Austria)s/EPP Summit/Angelo Marcopolo/- Salzburg U-Turn ? While some had speculated that the EPP might, eventually, push the embattled Prime Minister Victor Orban (See: ...., etc) out of the mainstream EPP Group, on the occasion of an exceptional Party's Summit in Salzburg Today, at the eve of all EU Heads of State/Governments' informal Summit here, under Austrian EU Presidency (July - December 2018), on the Contrary, Top ChristianDemocrat/EPP Leaders, speaking to "Eurofora", pointed rather at Better Results to the forthcoming, crucial EU Elections of May 2019, if even positions closer to many EU Citizens recent Feelings and Concerns could be heard inside a more PolyPhonic Music...


... alike to what the New EU President-in-office, Austrian Chancellor Sebastian Kurz, Symbolically chose to Play, later on, ToNight, before all EU Heads of State/Governments' Working Diner, precisely Focused on the currently "Burning" Issues related to that special Mass Asylum Seekers/Irregular Migrants' Big "Tsunami" of more than +1,5 Millions People suddenly entering Europe through Turkey since 2015/2016+, including, particularly, the Massive Harassments and/or Bloody Terrorist Attacks targetting Civilian People, concerned for their Safety, (Comp., f.ex., among many others, also :..., etc, and See Infra).

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- Already, Experienced EU Parliament's President, former twice EU Commissioner and Foreign Minister of Italy, Antonio Tajani, replying to an "Eurofora"s relevant Question, during that EPP's Summit in Salzburg, ensured that there is "No Risk" to Divide the Biggest Political Party in Europe, "just because of a (Controversial) Resolution" which criticized Hungary on certain points under discussion.

 

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+ Followed an exceptional, recently announced, Press Point for Journalists present in Salzburg's EU Summit, including "Eurofora", by an Interesting Top Duo with Chancellor Sebastian Kurz, as EU Chairman-in-office, and the Experienced ChristianDemocrat/EPP President, Joseph Daul from France, who Both stressed a Collective Will for Stronger Measures to Protect EU's External Borders, but Also to Cooperate with Transit and/or Origin Countries in order Both to Prevent and/or Redress such Massive Irregular intrusions, (Comp. also, inter alia : ..., etc).

 

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++ It was later this Evening Added also an interesting relevant Statement to "Eurofora" by EPP Party's Secretary General, as well as Mainstream MEP, Antonio Lopez-Isturiz, in Reply to Our Question : - Yes, it's also true that, f.ex., Last Week in Strasbourg, during EU Parliament's plenary Session of a full Week, (See : ...), but also Before, as well as just After that, there was a Lot of Medias' Interest on EU's position about Victor Orban's popular political choices, particularly on that recent Mass Migration through Turkey :

Moves like this might also be a kind of Good Omen, in the run up to May 2019 EU Elections, since they Augment EU Citizens' Interest for such "Topical EU Debates", that "we, inside the ChristianDemocrat/EPP Party allow to democratic fleurish, while others don't", as he Critically pointed out vis a vis his "Socialists" competitors, (who had, however, "Urgently" organized an "Exceptional" EU Group's Office Meeting, Last Thursday Afternoon in Strasbourg, as "Eurofora" witnessed then on the spot).

 

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Antonio Lopez-Isturiz, by a Topical Coincidence, was speaking to "Eurofora" Together with the Winner of the Recent Elections in Slovenia, former Prime Minister Janez Jansa, whose Party's MEPs were among those who Strongly Supported popular Prime Minister Victor Orban's poliicies in Hungary, at a recent, Controversial Vote in EU Parliament's Plenary Session in Strasbourg, (See : ..., etc). 


- In the rush, this EPP's Summit also Decided a rare "Family Photo" sequence, Announced at the Last Minute, here in Salzburg, while Victor Orban himself appeared exceptionaly smiling and reportedly agreeing that, after all, yes, it seems that Nowadays he's becoming quite Popular... - "And he Really is !", spontaneously told "Eufora" a Young Collegue Journalist, who appeared Thrilled...


- Meanwhile, Chancellor Angie Merkel and former Chancellor Helmut Kohl's well known Long-Time political Ally, currently President of the German Parliament, Wolfgang Schäuble, published, at the Eve of Salzburg's EU Summit, and sshortly after a Controversial Debate and Vote in EU Parliament in Strasbourg, precisely on Victor Orban's policies in Hungary and more generaly, a Rare Call to "Understand the People"'s current concerns, (including on "Safety", particularly after a New Series of Brutal Killings Targetting Civilians, by Knife-stabbings from Mass Asylume Seekers/Irregular Migrants who massively entered Europe through Turkey since 2015-2016, and, where necessary, even to "Revise Policies", (See : ...).

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(EPP Salzburg Summit's PressRoom)


Salzburg's EU Summit, topicaly deals Both with recent Mass Migration Issues and BREXIT, which wass Provoked also by that 2015 Big "Tsunami" through Turkey, (notoriously Exploited, during that Referendum's Voting Campaign, by some Pro-BREXIT Politicians then).

 

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(Ibid)

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+ Last, but not least : Austrian Chancellor Sebastian Kurz symbolically chose, even in World-Famous Mozart's Historic City : Salzburg, near a Superb "Mozarteum", to Associate, in 2 Music pieces played this Evening for EU's Heads of State/Governement, in a Surprizing Move, also a ...Xenakis Artwork, from the Famous Greco-French Modern Music Composer, (whose often "PolyPhonic" works used to Stimulate, inter alia, also ...Strasbourg International Modern "Musica" Annual Festival, since the Times that we were a Young Student passionately attending such events, almost at the same time that Jean-Claude Juncker attended there CoE's PanEuropean Parliamentary Assembly's "Hot" Debates)...

 

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They voted to "freeze" UK Government's draft to put People in jail for 42 Days on "anti-terrorist" suspicion without charge, or they abstained. Don't they look suspect ?
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CoE's debate on UK controversy stirs PanEuropean check of anti-terror suspects' imprisonment

Former Leftists of the Sixties would boil in hot water if they heard PACE's debate on the controversial 42 days detention without charge, currently drafted by the British Government :

A "Socialist" Government, a Socialist PACE Rapporteur and a Socialist Chair of PACE's Legal Committee, opposed a .. "Conservative" amendment (supported by .. Liberals, Democrats, etc), to freeze the measure, in order to protect Citizens' Freedom, by "waiting" until CoE's Venice Committee checks its conformity with Human Rights' principles.

"Left"'s support to Conservative-Lib.Dem's criticism, wasn't enough to obtain a majority, nor to make things as they were back in the good old days, when "Left" and "Right" had a clear meaning, as "liberty" and "restrictions"...

Conservatives and most Democrats were joined by the Left in voting for the "freeze", as well as Liberal Paul Rowen, while Socialist MEP Ivan Popescu, an experienced MEP from Ukraine (PACE Member since 1996-2008) abstained. But most Socialists, added to a few Liberals and EPP's Right, voted against.

Fortunately, someone inside PACE had the wise idea to shorten the Debate for less than 1 Hour, and put it on the Agenda only at the end of an exceptionally busy day, towards the end of the Evening, when most MEPs had already gone to taste wins and foods at various Receptions all around Strasbourg's "European" area : As a result, not even 42 MEPs weren't present..

Socialist Lord Tomlinson accused the leaders of the PanEuropean Assembly, in its highest body : the "Bureau", to "lack wisdom" by deciding to hold a Debate on an issue that neither the Socialist Chair of the Legal Committee, nor its Socialist "reluctant Rapporteur", did "not want to do", ...

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Finally, everybody (critics and supporters alike) was happy to agree, in substance, that the controversial measure "may" gravely violate Human Rights, and therefore, PACE asked Legal Experts of Venice Commission to check UK Government''s plans.

But this might take more than .. 42 Days to do, since PACE's Rapporteur asked the Experts to enlarge their study in a PanEuropean comparison of all that is happening on "anti-terrorism" legislation in 47 CoE Member Countries, including Russia, Turkey and Azerbaidjan..

Bad lack : "The existing 28 days’ detention without charge in the UK is, in comparison with other CoE member countries, one of the most extreme : In Turkey, the period is 7,5 days, in France 6 days, in Russia 5 days, and in .. the U.S. and Canada just 2 and 1 days respectively", denounced Democrat MEP Ms WOLDSETH from Norway..

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"Numerous respected human rights organisations, including Liberty and Human Rights Watch, have expressed serious concern" "The proposed legislation ...could easily lead to extensive abuses. ...Detention for 42 days means six weeks in which one is taken away from one’s family, friends, home and livelihood only to be let off without being charged. That will destroy lives and isolate communities", she added.

- "3 years ago, the UK Government sought to increase the period of pre-charge detention from 14 days to 90 days. Not long before that, it had been only 7 days. There was a vigorous debate ...and a ...compromise was reached of 28 days. We have to ask whether there are proper safeguards in place to extend the period to 42 days. I suggest that there are fatal flaws", reminded British Conservative Clappison.

- "What sort of society holds someone in detention for 42 days and does not have to tell the person who is in prison why they are there, or explain the suspicions that arose and led to their detention? What sort of society believes that that is the way to treat its citizens? That is an appalling injustice, ...A 42-day detention period will not make the UK safer. Instead, it will be the first step to giving in to terrorists; it is saying that we are prepared to sacrifice our democratic rights and the principles for which we have stood for centuries", criticized British Liberal Michael Hanckock

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"Comments made ...by Norwegian delegates are unfortunate", replied British Socialist MEP Ms.Curtis-Thomas, accusing them to "besmirch the reputation of our police force, which is one of the Best in the World", as she said, believing that "there are significant safeguards ...to ensure that individuals are not subjected to unlawful detention"

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PACE "has serious doubts whether ...the draft legislation are in conformity with the ...case-law of the European Court of Human Rights. A lack of ..safeguards may lead to arbitrariness, resulting in breaches of ... liberty and ...right to a fair trial". PACE "is particularly concerned that: ..the judge ..may not be in a position to examine whether there exist reasonable grounds for suspecting that the arrested person has committed an offence;"; that "... representation by a lawyer may be inappropriately restricted or delayed;" that "information on the grounds for suspicion of a person ...may be unduly withheld.. ;" that this "may give rise to arrests without the intention to charge;", and; in general, that "prolonged detention without proper information on the grounds for arrest may constitute inhuman treatment", says Klaus De Vries' Report, adopted with 29 votes against zero.

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