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EUParliament Press Head Duch to EF: Citizens Start Preparing Historic Deal with States/MEPs/EUCom

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Thursday, 16 September 2021

 

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*Strasbourg/Angelo Marcopolo/- The Beginning of an "UnPrecedented in History" process : "Citizens Negociating with States, MEPs, EUCommissioners", etc, will Start to be meticulously Prepared during the Next 3 Days, by Citizens' Panels, at EU Parliament in Strasbourg, during the Weekend : Friday to Sunday, 17 - 19 September 2021, as the Experienced EU Parliament's Press/Communications' Director, Jaume Duch-Guillot, stressed to "Eurofora".


- Several Dozens of Journalists are due to Carefuly Scrutinize a Long and Detailed Process, according to which, EU Citizens' Panels will strive to Build their Positions on the Future of Europe, Starting by the "Economy, Social Justice, and Jobs", Following with "Education, Youth, Culture, Sport", and Concluding, for this 1st Step, with "Digital Transformation", (according to a Draft Programme).


The Participants are mainly invited to Find concrete "Visions" for Europe's Future in those areas, Build operational "Topics" from them, and Conclude with what is called active "Streams", for the Plenary, apparently due to be Transmitted by  "Ambassadors", elected among them.


Their 1st Half of a Day (Friday) is mainly Dedicated into Meeting and Knowing Each other, as well as the Procedure, and Organizing. It's during the 2nd Full Day (Saturday) that Citizens' Panels are due to Focus on their proper Work, by Finding EU Citizens' "Visions", formulating "Topics", and preparing "Streams". Finaly, at a Last Half of a Day (Sunday), they are due to Discuss, Change, or Aprove their "Streams", as well as "Ambassadors", before a Final family-Photo (re-Named "Group-Photo", since there will be about 200 EU Citizens here, out of a Total of 800)...


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- In fact, what is "Essential, is that it's the 1st Time in History, for a Process of Discussions on Europe's Future, there is a Direct Debate Between Citizens  themselves, at the Beginning, and Afterwards between Citizens and MEPs, Ministers, EU Commissioners, etc. That is to say, it's the 1st Time that a Citizens' InPut is Accepted at the Institutional Discussions", Jaume Duch stressed to "Eurofora".


 - "And this will Start here, in Strasbourg, Tomorrow !", he Highlighted. In fact, "they (Citizens) will Start, at First, Discussing Between them, but Afterwards, when they will have Reached at Conclusions, they will Discuss also with all the Others, the Institutional representatives", he analysed.

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- Thus, "During the Next 2 Months, they (Citizens' Panels) will Discuss mainly Between them. But Afterwards, they will Discuss also with the Others", (i.e. "Institutionals"). "It's all in a Draft Agenda, that you should ask to be provided with", Duch advised.


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- I.e. it all Starts with the (Web) Platform, Follows with Panels of Citizens, and then at the Plenary, where it becomes Crucial, resumed, earlier this week in a Briefing (14/9/2021), Guy Verhofstadt, Head of EU Parliament's Delegation to the CFE.

 

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- Meanwhile, 3 Interim Reports on Citizens' Proposals in the Conference's Web Platform are due to be Distributed this week, as well as on November 15, and before the End of the Year (2021), he added, (Hopefuly Not Blocking with an Intermediary, EU Citizens' Original Publications, visible at CFE's Website)...


Until Now, the Most Popular Issue seems to be "Democracy", (i.e. there where the Main "Eurofora"s Project has been Notoriously Published, Before being Supported, on main Principles, by Both EU and CoE MEPs, See: .., etc). Surprizingly, However, the 1st Question allowed to the Press came from ...Outside the EU (the BREXIT's UK), and from a ..."Financial" Paper ("FT"), Instead of an EU Human Rights/Democracy-focused Media... (it was about Hindering Victor Orban's Supporters to use the CFE's Website for Discussing their Ideas).


- However, at any case, "this is a quite Short Conference, since it would be Over at about March 2022", (with a Huge Pressure on the French EU Presidency to Act, then : i.e. rather Before the Final Round of the crucial French Presidential Election), Verhofstadt Warned...


- And, to a Question whether he wouldn't like to have, precisely, a much Longer EU Conference, particularly for People's Debates, he reacted by Pointing mainly to the Fact that, what is Important is that such a Novel Procedure, for the 1st Time, incites the Politicians of Representative Democracy "to Reply" to Citizens' critical Observations, Proposals or Queries : I.e. practicaly pointing at ..."Eurofora"s main Project's Idea about "Dialogue" between Citizens and Politicians Before Decisions !
 

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They voted to "freeze" UK Government's draft to put People in jail for 42 Days on "anti-terrorist" suspicion without charge, or they abstained. Don't they look suspect ?
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CoE's debate on UK controversy stirs PanEuropean check of anti-terror suspects' imprisonment

Former Leftists of the Sixties would boil in hot water if they heard PACE's debate on the controversial 42 days detention without charge, currently drafted by the British Government :

A "Socialist" Government, a Socialist PACE Rapporteur and a Socialist Chair of PACE's Legal Committee, opposed a .. "Conservative" amendment (supported by .. Liberals, Democrats, etc), to freeze the measure, in order to protect Citizens' Freedom, by "waiting" until CoE's Venice Committee checks its conformity with Human Rights' principles.

"Left"'s support to Conservative-Lib.Dem's criticism, wasn't enough to obtain a majority, nor to make things as they were back in the good old days, when "Left" and "Right" had a clear meaning, as "liberty" and "restrictions"...

Conservatives and most Democrats were joined by the Left in voting for the "freeze", as well as Liberal Paul Rowen, while Socialist MEP Ivan Popescu, an experienced MEP from Ukraine (PACE Member since 1996-2008) abstained. But most Socialists, added to a few Liberals and EPP's Right, voted against.

Fortunately, someone inside PACE had the wise idea to shorten the Debate for less than 1 Hour, and put it on the Agenda only at the end of an exceptionally busy day, towards the end of the Evening, when most MEPs had already gone to taste wins and foods at various Receptions all around Strasbourg's "European" area : As a result, not even 42 MEPs weren't present..

Socialist Lord Tomlinson accused the leaders of the PanEuropean Assembly, in its highest body : the "Bureau", to "lack wisdom" by deciding to hold a Debate on an issue that neither the Socialist Chair of the Legal Committee, nor its Socialist "reluctant Rapporteur", did "not want to do", ...

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Finally, everybody (critics and supporters alike) was happy to agree, in substance, that the controversial measure "may" gravely violate Human Rights, and therefore, PACE asked Legal Experts of Venice Commission to check UK Government''s plans.

But this might take more than .. 42 Days to do, since PACE's Rapporteur asked the Experts to enlarge their study in a PanEuropean comparison of all that is happening on "anti-terrorism" legislation in 47 CoE Member Countries, including Russia, Turkey and Azerbaidjan..

Bad lack : "The existing 28 days’ detention without charge in the UK is, in comparison with other CoE member countries, one of the most extreme : In Turkey, the period is 7,5 days, in France 6 days, in Russia 5 days, and in .. the U.S. and Canada just 2 and 1 days respectively", denounced Democrat MEP Ms WOLDSETH from Norway..

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"Numerous respected human rights organisations, including Liberty and Human Rights Watch, have expressed serious concern" "The proposed legislation ...could easily lead to extensive abuses. ...Detention for 42 days means six weeks in which one is taken away from one’s family, friends, home and livelihood only to be let off without being charged. That will destroy lives and isolate communities", she added.

- "3 years ago, the UK Government sought to increase the period of pre-charge detention from 14 days to 90 days. Not long before that, it had been only 7 days. There was a vigorous debate ...and a ...compromise was reached of 28 days. We have to ask whether there are proper safeguards in place to extend the period to 42 days. I suggest that there are fatal flaws", reminded British Conservative Clappison.

- "What sort of society holds someone in detention for 42 days and does not have to tell the person who is in prison why they are there, or explain the suspicions that arose and led to their detention? What sort of society believes that that is the way to treat its citizens? That is an appalling injustice, ...A 42-day detention period will not make the UK safer. Instead, it will be the first step to giving in to terrorists; it is saying that we are prepared to sacrifice our democratic rights and the principles for which we have stood for centuries", criticized British Liberal Michael Hanckock

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"Comments made ...by Norwegian delegates are unfortunate", replied British Socialist MEP Ms.Curtis-Thomas, accusing them to "besmirch the reputation of our police force, which is one of the Best in the World", as she said, believing that "there are significant safeguards ...to ensure that individuals are not subjected to unlawful detention"

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PACE "has serious doubts whether ...the draft legislation are in conformity with the ...case-law of the European Court of Human Rights. A lack of ..safeguards may lead to arbitrariness, resulting in breaches of ... liberty and ...right to a fair trial". PACE "is particularly concerned that: ..the judge ..may not be in a position to examine whether there exist reasonable grounds for suspecting that the arrested person has committed an offence;"; that "... representation by a lawyer may be inappropriately restricted or delayed;" that "information on the grounds for suspicion of a person ...may be unduly withheld.. ;" that this "may give rise to arrests without the intention to charge;", and; in general, that "prolonged detention without proper information on the grounds for arrest may constitute inhuman treatment", says Klaus De Vries' Report, adopted with 29 votes against zero.

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Records don't say if it took him 42 Days to draft his Report, but, at least, he knew why...

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