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"EF"'s Reply to CoFoE's Question on What the EU would do with Russia in a De Gaulle's "Great Europe"

Written by ACM
Saturday, 04 December 2021
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*Strasbourg/Angelo Marcopolo/- When PanEuropean, 47 Member States' strong, CoE's Assembly, Lifted Sanctions against Russia on 2019, (Rectifying a Blunder due to 2014 Anti-European Interferences, even with Deadly "Snipers" Killing Both Policemen and Demonstrators at Maidan SQ, provoking the Fall of a Peace Deal, including Amnesty, National Unity Government, and New Elections, Agreed by All parties, under France/Germany/Poland's auspices), the News made Frontpage Headlines at "New York Times"...

    Nowadays, at EU's "Conference on the Future of Europe" (CoFoE), a Question was raised, by a mainstream Member at its Web Platform, on "Eurofora"'s Publication, there, about the Topical character of De Gaulle's "Great Europe" with Russia as a Partner, (See: https://futureu.europa.eu/processes/EUInTheWorld/f/16/proposals/169590, etc, i.e. the Latest among Our 5 Ideas proposed there). It concerns, mainly, the Concrete Ways through which this might be realized, and Here is our Answer :

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 Juha Rannisto


 01/12/2021 07:51


The EU is too weak to push its borders to the Ural Mountains, even with the Eastern expansion of NATO.

Luckily, some former republics of the USSR are already EU members. Over time, more could join. Ukraine, Georgia, Kaliningrad, etc.?

But maybe it is easier to invite first Russians under 25 years of age to visit the EU without visas.


https://futureu.europa.eu/processes/EUInTheWorld/f/16/proposals/169590?commentId=165859#comment_165859  

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Dear Juha Rannisto,

- Attempts for an "Eastern Expansion of NATO" would Mean return Back to the "Cold War", even "Hot" WAR, and threaten to provoke Europe's Destruction !


- For "some (more) former Republics of the USSR" to "Join" the "EU", (as Ukraine and/or Georgia, etc) that might be, perhaps, Possible, (even if Ukraine faces so big Problems after the Mess provoked by the Foreign Interventions against pro-Russian Ukranians, that it has become practicaly doubtful). At any case, it's Not the Essential point at all ...


- "Young Russians" (and, more widely : Civil Society) "Invited to Visit the EU", (f.ex. "withOut Visas", etc), would certainly be Positive and Useful, (naturaly Carefuly, with Reciprocity, interesting Projects, etc). But largely InSufficient, and too Slow (i.e. Middle/Long Term)...


=> Obviously, the Main Point is direct Big Projects, of common interest, between the EU and Russia, able to Boost Economic Development, High-Tech Innovations, Cultural and Educational Cooperation, as well as Strengthening all the European People's feeling and conscience of a Joint History, Interests, Values, and Future, in a way Stimulating Ambitious Horizons for PanEuropa in the World !


    Among many and various Mega-Projects, could be Included, f.ex. :


    * A Trans-Continental TTGV (i.e. + 600 km/h) Link, from Madrid to Vladivostok, (that China would certainly be Glad to co-Fund). It would also serve as Backbone to several Vertical TGV Corridors, all along the way. As well as Ready for Possible Future Extensions towards Africa and/or America, as the Center of a Global Network at the Horizon, (in the direction of Cape Town, from one side, and of Port Williams/Cape Horn, at the other). 


    * Create an autonomous, Manned, ReUsable SpaceCraft, to come and go into Orbital Earth, Moon, March, etc. Space Stations and/or Bases, as well as order to ReLaunch and Develop Human Space Flight, and Space Exploration. (A relevant Joint ESA-RosoCosmos Project exists since 2.000)...


    * Establish a Large PanEuropean+ "Free Trade" Area, (the Greatest in the World) from Portugal to Vladivostok, (as Merkel, Austrians, a.o. had proposed on 2013, in order to Boost Commerce all accross EU and Russia, Lifting Contradictions of the Past, as those which had been felt in Ukrania's and/or Armenia's cases, etc).


    * Remind, Realize and Develop further the main common Culture and History of the PanEuropean area, on Key matters, Shared by Both EU and Russia, is Obviously a Prime Quality "Must" :


    * Invent a Joint new Hypersonic AirPlane, successor of "Concorde" and "Typolev", for Long, mainly Trans-Continental Flights of Civilian People, (that Europeans were the Only to dispose in the Globe, until a not yet fully elucidated Deadly sabotage of Cocorde, apparently by an USA Airplane, out of Paris on 2.000). It seems that Technical Plans for that, Already exist, somewhere around AF and/or BA, as well as in Russia, waiting Political Decisions, Updates, and Finalisation.   

       
    * On the Institutional front, inter alia, the "Trilateral" (France - Germany - Russia) Top Summits, inaugurated since 1998 CoE's PanEuropean Summit in Strasbourg, by Chirac, Kohl, Yeltsin, and continued by Schroeder, Merkel, Sarkozy, Putin, Medvedev, etc, until about 2011+. (Some June 2021 difficulties for all 27 EU Member States to formaly agree for an official meeting with Russia, only showed that the Solution is at the Top, precisely as it was Since the Beginning)...


    * To Develop a Popular Consience on "Great Europe"s PanEuropean Dimension Values, History and Potential, a Cultural and Historic approach is also of Vital Importance : This obviously Includes mainly Christianism, but Tolerant to other Religions, landmark Litterature (Novels, Poetry, etc), Music and Theater, Philosophy and Science, Art and Cinema, etc., as well as Tsar Peter's famous "Quest towards the West", (dear to Vladimir Putin, himself a Petrograd native, and Speaking Deutsch), the French Architects' superb Buildings at Petrograd, the Renaissance Philosophers supported by Emperor Catherine, but Also the Succesfull "Holly Alliance" between Russia and Poland, Lithuania, Germans, Venice, French, Vatican, etc. for Liberation from Military Invasion/Occupation of Europe by the Ottoman-Turks, or the Victorious Navarino naval battle of French, Russian, and Brittish against Turks in Greece on 1828, (overshadowed by another Victory of a German Officer with Russian Troops against Ottoman Empire Turkish Invadors/Occupators near Constantinople, that had enthousiasted Marx), added to Russia's participation in the succesful Defense of Wien, followed by the Liberation of Budapest and All Hungary, etc., (without forgetting the paradox of Russia controling even ...Alaska and battling inside Oregon, against ... Mexicans, when USA had Not Yet Started to Develop its forces there), up to the Victory against NAZism at Stalingrad/Volgograd and the Liberation of Eastern Europe (1941-1945); the Conquest of Space (from Gagarin to Soyuz, etc); the Struggle against Deadly Islamist Terrorism cowardly killing Civilian People, as throughout the EU from 2015-2016+, even School-Children in Russia (incl. Chechnya, 1999-2014+) until Syria also recently, (etc).


    * Concerning the most Vital and Topical Issue Nowadays : that of the Deadly or Incapacitating Virus C0VID-19, during the Current Limitation of Most Western Countries in Only a Few, Controversial Fake-"Vaccines", (in Fact "Novel Tools" affecting the Human Genome, by Suppressing a Protein via "mRNA": Turko-USA Pfizer + Moderna, or via "Virus' vector": UK's Astrozeneca [with Chimpadji cells] + USA's Janssen), the present and future MisTrust by Many People is due to their Exceptional Precariousness (Needing 3 or 4 Shots in only One Year !), InEfficacy (Pseudo-"Vaccinated" Individuals can be Infected, and even Infect Others in the Society, Contrary to any Real Vaccine... ), Risky "Side Effects" (f.ex. may Kill via Allergy or Heart, even Young + Healthy People, and "mRNA" Fake-"Vaccine" has been Suspended for that, as "Astrozeneca" for Thrombosis, etc), Dangerous in case of Error or Abuse (f.ex. illtreating complex Proteins might have "Catastrophic" Effects [BBC], as such "Individualizable" Gene Therapy Tools [mRNA-BioNTech 2019], Marked under the Skin [MIT 2019], may Manipulate the Human Genome, with UnKnown Results, including perhaps Cancer, etc), Bypassed by many "Variants" of the Virus, (particularly those affecting its "Spike", as f.ex. the latest variant "Omicron", etc).


    => On the Contrary, "Classic" Technology Vaccines, Already Tested during 2 Centuries, as invented by Western European scientist Louis Pasteur (Strasbourg), and which constitute, even Now, the absolute Majority of finalized Projects having Reached a 3rd (Last) Phase of Tests, according to the WHO, including an Important Project concluding Nowadays in Russia, are Not so Precarious, might have Less Side-Effects, Protect Recipients and/or their Contacts from Infections or Transmissions, do Not Manipulate Human Genome, and might Not be so Affected by Virus' Variants, (since they do Not Focus only on its "Spike", But use an Entire Virus, previously "Weakened"). So that a relevant EU - Russia scientific Cooperation might, eventualy, Succeed to Invent a Good and Real Vaccine asap !


    + In Addition, Scientific Research and/or Cure by "Convalescent Plasma" Therapy (i.e. using AntiBodies Naturaly created by the Human Immunity System of ex-Patients who Recovered succesfuly, and Donated plasma - Contrary to "Monocloal AntiBodies", artificially Fabricated by Animal-Human "Chimeras" using Mouses, etc, and Too Expensive), might find Better Perspectives through a relevant EU - Russia Cooperation in the foreseable Future.


    Indeed, China First spotted the Potential of that approach, (But soon run out of Test possibilities, after its Succesful Fight against the Virus left so Few Infections in the Country, that Foreign Trials there had to Stop, while even Chinese Trials on COVID had to Search Participants in Other Continents)...  Former POTUS Trump's Health Secretary, Alex Azar, had afterwards Pointed at Convalescent Plasma as having a "Breakthrough" Potential, (even if its Scarcity Needed further Innovative Solutions in order to Hopefuly Treat all the People, some of which were Already Visible at the Horizon). But, Later-on, after "Socialist" Biden's Controversial Election, started Some Ambivalent and/or Partialy Negative Estimations, claiming about "Insufficient" Yet Studies and/or some alleged Shady Limits on the matter, (Often in curiously Doubtful Format [f.ex.: "16 Trials on 16.006 Patients"..., or "= Effects if taken in 3 Days after Infection, But Not if taken more than a Week Later" (sic !)], and/or by, comparatively, Small Groups [f.ex. from Only 21 out of 194 WHO Member Countries], composed mainly by "Experts" either InCompetent on Such Issues, or obviously Linked with an Establishment having notorious Interests into Exploiting, on the Contrary, Expensive and/or Human Genome Manipulating, Artificial Alternatives, Animal-Human "Chimeras", etc, Instead of Natural Donations])...


    => However, the Fact that EU has been Twice at the "Epicenter" of the Pandemic, this time Together with Russia, Both having had Record-High Numbers of Infected People, obviously Facilitates, more than elsewhere, the Collection of Convalescent Plasma Donations, in order to try to Save Human Lives, with, comparatively, Lower Cost and Abundant Natural Means. The Rest is a matter for Solidarity, Cooperation, Science, Invention, Technology, and Orgaisation,where the "Great Europe" could make a Good and Big Demonstration of its Potential, for the Benefit also of the whole World, particulaly in terms of Scientific Breakthroughs for Human Health !
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    * At any case, last, but not least, by a Timely "Coincidence", these same Days, it was a Good Surprize to see that, in EU Parliament's recent landmark Ceremony in the Memory of Historic former President of France, Valery Giscard d'Estaign (1926-2020), the Musician chosen in order to play a wonderful piece of Brahms, at the Conclusion of that exceptional Franco-German and European Event in Strasbourg, was a Young Pianist, living in France, but of ...Russian origin : Alexandre Cantorow, (Winner of a Prize awarded at an important Tchaïkovski festival in Moscow)... A European Franco-Russian, by his Mother and Father, (with whom he has worked and played Together Many famous Musical artworks).


=> Enjoy :  https://audiovisual.ec.europa.eu/en/video/I-214946     

 

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    An "Eugenic" loophole Amendment, which might expose to Dangers reminiscent of "3rd Reich's" notorious Genetic Abuses, hidden at the last minute inside an otherwise Good, larger Health policy Package scheduled to be voted on Thursday, was strongly denounced by a coalition of MEPs from various Political Groups and Countries, in a Press Conference held this afternoon at EU Parliament in Strasbourg.

    Mainly calling to "Select Human Embryos", via "Genetic Counselling" and "pre-implantation" Techniques including "Genetic Tests", in order to "Eradicate Hereditary rare Diseases", it might open ways to Dangerous Practices in Future, they denounced in substance.

    But they also made it clear that a much larger Report inside which this Controversial Amendment "No 15" was added in dubious circumstances, officialy destinated to struggle against "Rare Diseases", and drafted by Professor Antonios Trakatellis, was otherwise "an Excellent Report", aiming at a "completely Uncontroversial target" of Health policy on which "all MEPs and Experts are united, believing that Europe should act" to protect People's Health (See "EuroFora"'s earlier News).

    The controversy came at a particularly delicate moment for the EU in relation to Citizens, at the eve of June 2009 EU Elections, and shortly before Ireland re-votes for "Lisbon Treaty"..    

- Denouncing risks of "an Eugenic demand, very similar to what we had during the 3rd Reich in Germany, but now coming from some Scientisists themselves", German ChristianDemocrat/EPP MEP Dr. Peter Liese stressed that critical MEPs were against "Eugenic" engineering with "Selection of Human Embryos", and anything which might ultimately lead up to to a "Selection of Human Race". It doesn't help to "eradicate" Human Lives, he added.


    Several Experts and NGOs expressed "Deep Concern", as f;ex. DR M.C. Cornel of the "European Society of Human Genetics", which stressed, on this occasion, that "the importance of Non-Directiveness in Reproductive issues is a Central characteristic of Human Genetics, after the Atrocities committed in the name of Genetics in the first half or the 20th Century".

     - "This is completely Unacceptable", stressed Italian Liberal MEP Vittorio Prodi, on the Controversial Amendment, also because pushes to "eliminate early Human Life", as he noted.

     - "This opens a Dangerous Road, rather a Motorway", denounced Danish MEP Mrs Margrette Auken, from the "Greens", observing that various similar attempts were made in the Past "not only in Germany, but also in several other Countries, "even at the 1970ies", "f.ex. on forced Sterilisation of Roma" People, and other criticisable situations f.ex. in the UK, in Sweden, etc. as she said.

    + Other NGOs, as f.ex. "LebenHilfe" from Berlin, added that, among various other Risks, could also be that, by exploiting the pre-implantation Genetic Diagnostics and the Selection of "healthy" Embryos, some may "propagate" several "Eugenic" aims, starting f.ex. by pushing to eradicate Human Livies which might "Cost too much" to preserve, ultimately exposing to dangers reminiscent of the "3rd Reich"'s atrocious abuses.

    In consequence, ChristianDemocrats/EPP and "Green" MEPs "decided by Majority to vote against" this Controversial Amendment, anounced to Journalists the 5 MEPs who participated in the Press Conference, representing a wide spectrum, from Liberals to "Greens" and ChristianDemocrats, and from Hungary, Italy, Germany and Danemark up to Ireland (Gay Mitchell), etc.
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    Hungarian ChristianDemocrat MEP Laszlo Surjan said "that it was "Suddenly, at the End of the Procedure" in Committee, that "appeared this (Controversial) Amendment, which has nothing to do" with the main purpose of the Report, on which all agreed.

    He denounced an "Unhonest" move, and called to "avoid this kind of unacceptable situations". Nobody should "Select People", Surjan stressed.

    - "We (MEPs) had No Chance to Discuss" this last-minute Amendment earlier added at a Committee's level, said German MEP Peter Liese

    Speaking to "EuroFora", Dr. Liese, the Spokesman of the ChristianDemocrat/EPP Group in EU Parliament, said that MEPs didn't oppose other references of the Report f.ex. on "Genetic Tests", because they were "no proposals" to impose them, while, on the contrary, there was "a Problem" if anyone attempted to "impose" f.ex. this or that Genetic Technique and "Genetic Counselling", etc. to the People on human reproduction.
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The precise Text :
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    Controversial parts of Amendment No 15 ask mainly "to lead finally to the Eradication" of "Hereditary" "rare diseases", "through Genetic Counselling .., and ..pre-Implantation Selection of healthy Embryos".

    But  EU Rapporteur Professor Trakatellis, said to "EuroFora" that fears should be alleviated by Guarantees that all this should be done only "where appropriate", when it's "not contrary to existing National Law", and "always on a Voluntary basis", according to other Parts of the Amendment.

    He stressed that the main aim was to allow "a free and informed choice of persons involved", without imposing them anything :  - "It's not an obligatory, but advisary" text, he said.

    To make that point clear, he was ready, in agreement with many MEPs, to eventually drop at least that part of the controversial Amendment which initially called for "efforts to ..lead finally to the Eradication of those rare diseases" "which are Hereditary".

    But, until late Wednesday evening, reportedly together with many other MEPs, he stood by all the rest of the controversial Amendment, (fex. on the "Genetic Counselling" and the "pre-implantation Selection of healthy Embryos"), so that critical MEPs, going from ChristianDemocrats as Dr. Liese, to "Greens" or "Ind/Dem", observed to "EuroFora" that "this was not enough" to close the dangerous loophole.

    Particularly since, as Professor Trakatellis noted himself, "this is already allowed to the U.K.", and "other National Legislations would probably follow, sooner or later" in a similar direction. As for a general call to "Eradicate Hereditary rare Diseases", this "should happen, at any case, in practice, de facto", to protect public Health.

    On the contrary, "our goal should be to help patients suffering from rare diseases, not to eradicate the patients. In case of genetic disease risk, the decision should not be guided by scenarios" made by politicians. "Perents who may decide to accept a child, even if handicapped or with genetic disease, must be respected and supported with solidarity", critical MEPs stated.

    - "Any Pressure" to "a patient or couple (who "should be able to make an informed choice consistent with their own values"),"from health Professionals, Public Health Policies or Governemental Institutions, or Society at large, should be avoided", stresses the "European Society for Human Genetics".

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Each MEP's vote will be registered !

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The Socialist Group requested a "Split vote" on the Amendment 15, first without, and afterwards with the words "lead finally to the Eradication" etc.


    But the first "split vote" leaves intact all the other parts of the Controversial Amendment, (i.e. "Genetic Counselling", "Selection of healthy Embryos", etc).

    That's why, 3 Groups of MEPs : ChristianDemocrats/EPP, "Greens/EFA", and "Ind/Dem", have asked for "Roll Call Votes", on everything regarding the Controversial Amendment No 15, and on the final outcome of the resulting Report as amended, which will register all the individual positions to be taken by each MEP.   

Something which will obviously make each MEP think twice before voting for one or another choice, to be sure that he/she will make the right choice in front of EU Citizens, particularly at these pre-Election times...


    Crucial Votes were scheduled between 12 Noon and 1 p.m. local Strasbourg time, in the middle of a long series of various other Reports, and after a long Public Debate on the larger Health policy package, from 9 to 11.50 am.

    The specific Report inside which was hidden the controversial Amendment is due to be debated between 11 and 12 am.

    So that more last-minute Surprises may not be excluded a priori...

    Particularly at the present Historic moment, when even the Institutional Future of the EU depends on the result of a second Referendum on "Lisbon Treaty", later this year, in ...Ireland, a mainly Catholic country, where People are particularly sensitive in such kind of socio-cultural and values issues...
 

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