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Plenel to Eurofora on attempts for State/Big Corporation monitoring on Web NewsMedias + Free Speech

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08.01.18
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*Strasbourg/International Kleber Library/Angelo Marcopolo/- Independently of a recent Controversy around "Charlie Hebdo" horrible Massacre by Deadly Islamist Terrorists cowardly Targetting Journalists and other Civilian People for Expressing a Critical point of view in public, (and/or of Mr Ramadan's wrongdoings, etc), "Eurofora" finds that the opinion of an Experienced Journalist, former Long-Time Newspaper Editor, and co-Founder of a Web NewsMedia outlet, as Edwy Plenel from France (f. "Le Monde", now "MediaPart"), on current Attempts to Monitor Free Speech at the Inrernet and/or Web NewsMedias by States and/or Big Corporations, as it results from the Reply that he gave to "Eurofora"s relevant Question, deserves to be published and become Part of a Wider Discussion, Nowadays in Europe, the USA and the rest of the World, which has just Started.


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 - "Eurofora" asked Plenel, in substance, about his reaction, from the point of view of Press Freedom and Freedom of Expression, to various recent attempts, anounced both in France and some Other Countries in Europe and elsewhere in the World, sometimes even by European/PanEuropean Organisations, etc., to take certain Measures for Monitoring by Governments and/or Big Corporations of various Publications at the Internet, from Social Networks up to Web NewsMedias, etc.


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   - Concerning that "Question about Freedoms", (as he resumed the above mentioned "Eurofora"s Query), Plenel noted, inter alia, that, f.ex., recently in France, "there is an anouncement about a Draft Law on <<Fake News>>, by the President of the Republic".


 - "My position is very Simple, on that", he went on to Reply, adopting, for the rest, "Eurofora"s approach, from a General point of view, (Comp. Supra) :


 - "I wait to see, First", before judging, he Carefully said, as a matter of Principle.


 >>> -  "But I Always feel a DisTrust whenever a Political Power, an Executive Power, pretends to Control Freedom by itself a priori", the Experienced Journalist/Web Editor Warned from the outset, as a matter of General Principle.


 - Because, "in a Regime of Freedom, we are Accountable of what we say, we write, a Posteriori", he pointed out.


- "It's not a regime of prior autorisation or prohibition".


 - "Even if I observe that a Fight is necessary against saying anything, by anyone,  in a Democracy of Social Networks", Plenel found.


 - In fact, "for me, the Real Battle is to make obligatory to be able to Identify the Persons, In order to be Accountable of what they have said, if they have Hurt some. As, f.ex., in case of Slandering, or in order to Identify the Author of an Article", etc., he went on to add.

=> - "But, once again, I feel Distrust ("I find it Suspicious") when a Political Power - even for the Best Arguments in the World -  starts claiming that it wants to Decide by itself on what Can be Said, or canNot be Said", he concluded.

 

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    I.e., a fortiori, when some Public Authorities empower a few Big private Multinational Corporations to exerce Censorship on the Web, even withOut Any Judicial and/or other Legal Guarantee against possible Abuse, mosty using, for that purpose, various Anonymous Individuals, often briefly Hired by Low-cost Intermediary Businesses, accross the World, withOut any serious Knowledge of Law and Ethics, Neither any Fair Legal Redress process clearly available to the possible Victims, (as several recent Blunders have recently Revealed in various Shocking Scandals, from Europe to North America, etc., including, f.ex., even a Parliamentary Group vice-President at the German Bundesrat, and the new US President Don Trump himself, with his Famous and Popular "Twitter" Account being Blocked by an obscure Turkish Migrant who had briefly come from Abroad, and left immediately afterwards !... Cf.: ...+ ..., etc).

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    + As for Plenel's (and others') recent Pressure to "Identify" the "Persons" of any Publication at the Internet, i.e. not just for Journalists' WebMedia NewsArticles, but Even for Simple Citizens' Publications at Social Networks, Web Forums, etc., apparently, it seems quite Dangerous, and Contrary to the Free Internet's principles since the Founding Fathers of the Web, to eventually Expose to Anybody the Personal Identity of any Net-Citizen who might Express a Political Opinion or Social View in a Public Debate at an Internet Forum.


    It's not for nothing, f.ex., that, in Democracy, every Political Vote is "Secret", as far as the Link with the Person who Voted is concerned... And how could, f.ex., a Civil Servant, dare Express any of his/her Political/Social Views at an Internet Forum, if he/she was always Obliged to Expose his/her Personal Identity to Anybody ? Obviously, he/she would Risk his/her own Professional Career, may be lose his/her Lob by Political/Social Hostility and/or Discrimination, etc., in real Practice. Last, but not least, even Simple Citizens might be Afraid to Freely Express their Socio-Political Opinions at Internet Forums or Social Networks, particularly on some "Hot" and Controversial Topical Issues, mainly Because of Fear of more or less Brutal Aggressions that they might Suffer from some Violent Socio-Political "Adversaries", among those who don't hesitate to abuse of Gross Insults and/or Various other Forms of Intolerance and Aggression against those who Think Differently : F.ex., even during a Public Debate held by Edwy Plenel himself, on anOther Issue, Today in Strasbourg's "International Library Kleber", a Young Person and/or others who dared Express some Critical, Dissident Socio-Political Views, were Brutaly and Repeatedly Bullied, facing even Loud gross Insults as, f.ex., among others, also : - "Bastard !" or "Corrupted  !" ("Pourriture !" in the original in French), "Sick Mind(s) !", "Red-Brown" (i.e. Communist-NAZI), etc...         

 

=> In order to Prevent such and/or even various Worse Aggressions which may Follow after a "Hot" Political/Social Debate on Topical Issues of Importance for the Society, it seems obviously much Better to Continue to Protect the Private Identity of each Participant at a Web Forum or Network, (Respecting a Founding Principle of the Internet), withOut Exposing it to Anybody.


    Otherwise, the Horrible Massacre of "Charlie Hebdo" isn't enough to Warn about various possible Dangers against Freedom of Speech nowadays ?


    However, on the Contrary, in case of Clear Abuse and/or Illegality, Slandering, etc., the Competent and Responsible Public Authorities should have the Legal Means to UnMask any eventual Wrong-Doer, in order to be able to use the traditional, adequate Legal Procedures if he/she really Aggressed someone else in an unjustifiable, Brutal and/or Damaging way. But, in Fact, it seems that this can Already be done, essentially, by the available Legal and Technical Instruments...



    However, on the Contrary, in case of Clear Abuse and/or Illegality, Slandering, etc., the Competent and Responsible Public Authorities should have the Legal Means to UnMask any eventual Wrong-Doer, in order to be able to use the traditional, adequate Legal Procedures if he/she really Aggressed someone else in an unjustifiable, Brutal and/or Damaging way. But, in Fact, it seems that this can Already be done, essentially, by the Available Legal and Technical Instruments...

 

    - So, why that Rush ?

 

 

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    The recent paradox of freezing EU Talks with front-runner Croatia, while continuing controversial EU - Turkey talks, despite Zagreb's acceptance of Refugees' Human Rights to return, that Ankara refuses fex. in Cyprus, while both have "Good Neighborhood" problems vis a vis Slovenia, or Greece, Cyprus and Armenia respectively, can it be justified by the non-fullfilment of EU criteria, as Slovenia says, or, is it "Double Standards" ?    

The question became unavoidable after statements by Presidents of Slovenia and Croatia, Tuerk and Mesic, respectively, to "EuroFora", exclusively or among Strasbourg's journalists this week at the CoE, on the sidelines of its 2009 Summer University for Political Schools, which topically brought them together as successive key-note speakers.


    Comming only a few Months before EU checks Turkey's compliance to its commitments on Cyprus, etc., scheduled for December 2009, this obviously has a special importance for the coherence of EU Enlargement's principles.

     Suspension of EU Negotiations is a normal consequence in case of a Candidate Country's failure to fullfil EU Conditions, such as "Good Neighborhood relations", stressed at first Slovenian President Danilo Tuerk, current CoE's chair.

    But, regarding EU's Criteria,  there shouldn't be any "Double Standards",  reacted Croatian President Stjepan Mesic, commenting the fact that Turkey's controversial EU negotiations continue, while they were recently "freezed" in the case of Croatia, an "unquestionably European Country", which oficially accepts to respect Refugees Human Rights, contrary to Ankara's notorious refusals or reluctance.                                       

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           - "EU itself has set as a Criterium (for EU Enlargement) the "Good Neighborhood relations",  and their absence justifies the "Suspension" EU Negotiations, (f.ex. with Croatia), because of a Border dispute affecting the territorial integrity of an EU Member Country, stressed Slovenian President, Danilo Tuerk, CoE's Chairman in office (May - November 2009), speaking to Journalists in Strasbourg including "EuroFora".    

Questioned earlier what "consequences on EU's Enlargement policy" can have the "Ban on EU Membership Negotiations", imposed to Croatia, Tuerk replied that "this question comes down to the fulfillement of (EU) Criteria for membership. One has to look at each Candidate Country ., from the point of view whether it fullfils the Criteria that EU has set. One of them are Good Neighborhood Relations, I'd like to remind. And also, there are other factors, such as Justice, Home affairs, Rule of Law, and others".


    - "Now, ..Candidate Countries are at Different Levels of fulfillement of Criteria", he observed.

    - " Croatia is obviously the closest to that. I'm rather optimistic : I think that in the coming Months we'll have an opportunity to look at all these issues constructively and hopefully we'll be able to make progress". "My main concern, at this point, is the situation in Bosnia : We haven't seen enough progres domesticaly. We haven't seen enough during ..political parties within their country.We need a New Energy, a new energetic move towards the Candidature for EU membership. "Other (Western Balkan) Countries (Serbia, Montenegro, FYROM, Albania) have been making soaring Progress, and I think that they should be ready, in a few Years, for the Candidate status".

    - "As far as the Western Balkans are concerned, .. nobody should be left outside" the EU, Slovenian's President concluded, ommitting to mention Turkey's controversial EU bid.

    - "This process may be seen as Slow, but..  Slovenia has also has also been exposed to various "Booms of Slowness" in our accession period. But now we can say that the process was relatively quick, because changes which occur after becoming EU member, are quite large, and they require proper Preparations before the (EU) membership becomes a new factor, an impacting line for a new (EU) member country".
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Slovenian statements made some participants from certain 3rd Countries as FYROM, etc. claim that "the Principle of EU Solidarity" would "produce a.. rising European Union Nationalism (sic !), against Non-EU Countries", as they said, asking unhappy foreign countries to form a "bloc" to exert pressure on the EU...    

But Croatian President Stjepan Mesic dismissed that, supporting "EU Integration", "after the Economy also in Political" issues, as "the achievement" of our times. In EU there is "diversity, but it's United", he stressed, "EU has to be United so that it can become a central factor of Peace" also at the surrounding areas, he replied.

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Speaking later exclusively to "EuroFora", the experienced twice President of Croatia, former President of the International "Non-Aligned" movement, denounced "Double Standards" in the way EU treats recently Croatia compared to Turkey :   

 - "I think that there shouldn't be Double Standards", stressed the Croatian President, in reply to a Question comparing the freeze of EU - Croatia talks, with the continuation of EU - Turkey talks, despite the fact that Croatia is an "unquestionably European country", while Turkey's EU bid is notoriously controversial.


    Mesic was reacting to the observation that, even if he confirmed his "respect of Refugees' Human Rights to return, etc. (See infra), nevertheless, EU talks are suspended with Croatia.. While for oher, controversial candidates, who refuse to respect Refugees' Rights to return, etc., as fex. Turkey does in occupied Cyprus and elsewhere, EU negotiations continue".

    - "I believe that Croatia's accession will confirm that all European Countries who fulfill all of the Conditions and achieve European Standards, have to join the EU. There shouldn't be any Double Standards", went on to add in reply President Mesic.

    In this relation, Croatia's President found "of paramount importance", CoE's "mechanisms enforcing ECHR's judgements"
    
    - "On Refugees and Displaced persons, the process will be completed only after the last person demanding to return will be allowed to do so !", President Mesic Croatia stressed earlier, setting a general standard of obvious importance also for otherr candidates, as f.ex. Turkey, often accused to exclude or heavily restrict Greek Cypriot Displaced persons' return to their Family Homes and ancestral land, provoke difficulties to Turkish-Kurd IDPs return to their home regions at the South-East, etc.

    Some "2.000 People are still reported Missing" in former Yugoslavia, for some Years, (as in Cyprus, modern Europe's oldest case, for 3 Decades. Nagorno-Karabach, Tcecnya in Russia, etc, more recently), and Investigations "will only be completed after establishing the fate of the last one of them", he added.
    
    Speaking earlier on "War Crimes", President Mesic stressed that "Leaders are responsible for (the) Wars (of the Past), not the People", and called against Impunity :  "Individuals have to be held Responsible for Crimes. International Penal Tribunals have to persecute those individuals", perpetrators of War Crimes, he underlined.

    Such statements naturally made Mesic rather popular at ECHR, whose President, French EuroJudge, Professor Jean-Paul Costa, looked particularly smiling when he welcomed him later on Wednesday afternoon, after Slovenian President Daniko Tuerk earlier this week.
           

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