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Plenel to Eurofora on attempts for State/Big Corporation monitoring on Web NewsMedias + Free Speech

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*Strasbourg/International Kleber Library/Angelo Marcopolo/- Independently of a recent Controversy around "Charlie Hebdo" horrible Massacre by Deadly Islamist Terrorists cowardly Targetting Journalists and other Civilian People for Expressing a Critical point of view in public, (and/or of Mr Ramadan's wrongdoings, etc), "Eurofora" finds that the opinion of an Experienced Journalist, former Long-Time Newspaper Editor, and co-Founder of a Web NewsMedia outlet, as Edwy Plenel from France (f. "Le Monde", now "MediaPart"), on current Attempts to Monitor Free Speech at the Inrernet and/or Web NewsMedias by States and/or Big Corporations, as it results from the Reply that he gave to "Eurofora"s relevant Question, deserves to be published and become Part of a Wider Discussion, Nowadays in Europe, the USA and the rest of the World, which has just Started.


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 - "Eurofora" asked Plenel, in substance, about his reaction, from the point of view of Press Freedom and Freedom of Expression, to various recent attempts, anounced both in France and some Other Countries in Europe and elsewhere in the World, sometimes even by European/PanEuropean Organisations, etc., to take certain Measures for Monitoring by Governments and/or Big Corporations of various Publications at the Internet, from Social Networks up to Web NewsMedias, etc.


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   - Concerning that "Question about Freedoms", (as he resumed the above mentioned "Eurofora"s Query), Plenel noted, inter alia, that, f.ex., recently in France, "there is an anouncement about a Draft Law on <<Fake News>>, by the President of the Republic".


 - "My position is very Simple, on that", he went on to Reply, adopting, for the rest, "Eurofora"s approach, from a General point of view, (Comp. Supra) :


 - "I wait to see, First", before judging, he Carefully said, as a matter of Principle.


 >>> -  "But I Always feel a DisTrust whenever a Political Power, an Executive Power, pretends to Control Freedom by itself a priori", the Experienced Journalist/Web Editor Warned from the outset, as a matter of General Principle.


 - Because, "in a Regime of Freedom, we are Accountable of what we say, we write, a Posteriori", he pointed out.


- "It's not a regime of prior autorisation or prohibition".


 - "Even if I observe that a Fight is necessary against saying anything, by anyone,  in a Democracy of Social Networks", Plenel found.


 - In fact, "for me, the Real Battle is to make obligatory to be able to Identify the Persons, In order to be Accountable of what they have said, if they have Hurt some. As, f.ex., in case of Slandering, or in order to Identify the Author of an Article", etc., he went on to add.

=> - "But, once again, I feel Distrust ("I find it Suspicious") when a Political Power - even for the Best Arguments in the World -  starts claiming that it wants to Decide by itself on what Can be Said, or canNot be Said", he concluded.

 

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    I.e., a fortiori, when some Public Authorities empower a few Big private Multinational Corporations to exerce Censorship on the Web, even withOut Any Judicial and/or other Legal Guarantee against possible Abuse, mosty using, for that purpose, various Anonymous Individuals, often briefly Hired by Low-cost Intermediary Businesses, accross the World, withOut any serious Knowledge of Law and Ethics, Neither any Fair Legal Redress process clearly available to the possible Victims, (as several recent Blunders have recently Revealed in various Shocking Scandals, from Europe to North America, etc., including, f.ex., even a Parliamentary Group vice-President at the German Bundesrat, and the new US President Don Trump himself, with his Famous and Popular "Twitter" Account being Blocked by an obscure Turkish Migrant who had briefly come from Abroad, and left immediately afterwards !... Cf.: ...+ ..., etc).

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    + As for Plenel's (and others') recent Pressure to "Identify" the "Persons" of any Publication at the Internet, i.e. not just for Journalists' WebMedia NewsArticles, but Even for Simple Citizens' Publications at Social Networks, Web Forums, etc., apparently, it seems quite Dangerous, and Contrary to the Free Internet's principles since the Founding Fathers of the Web, to eventually Expose to Anybody the Personal Identity of any Net-Citizen who might Express a Political Opinion or Social View in a Public Debate at an Internet Forum.


    It's not for nothing, f.ex., that, in Democracy, every Political Vote is "Secret", as far as the Link with the Person who Voted is concerned... And how could, f.ex., a Civil Servant, dare Express any of his/her Political/Social Views at an Internet Forum, if he/she was always Obliged to Expose his/her Personal Identity to Anybody ? Obviously, he/she would Risk his/her own Professional Career, may be lose his/her Lob by Political/Social Hostility and/or Discrimination, etc., in real Practice. Last, but not least, even Simple Citizens might be Afraid to Freely Express their Socio-Political Opinions at Internet Forums or Social Networks, particularly on some "Hot" and Controversial Topical Issues, mainly Because of Fear of more or less Brutal Aggressions that they might Suffer from some Violent Socio-Political "Adversaries", among those who don't hesitate to abuse of Gross Insults and/or Various other Forms of Intolerance and Aggression against those who Think Differently : F.ex., even during a Public Debate held by Edwy Plenel himself, on anOther Issue, Today in Strasbourg's "International Library Kleber", a Young Person and/or others who dared Express some Critical, Dissident Socio-Political Views, were Brutaly and Repeatedly Bullied, facing even Loud gross Insults as, f.ex., among others, also : - "Bastard !" or "Corrupted  !" ("Pourriture !" in the original in French), "Sick Mind(s) !", "Red-Brown" (i.e. Communist-NAZI), etc...         

 

=> In order to Prevent such and/or even various Worse Aggressions which may Follow after a "Hot" Political/Social Debate on Topical Issues of Importance for the Society, it seems obviously much Better to Continue to Protect the Private Identity of each Participant at a Web Forum or Network, (Respecting a Founding Principle of the Internet), withOut Exposing it to Anybody.


    Otherwise, the Horrible Massacre of "Charlie Hebdo" isn't enough to Warn about various possible Dangers against Freedom of Speech nowadays ?


    However, on the Contrary, in case of Clear Abuse and/or Illegality, Slandering, etc., the Competent and Responsible Public Authorities should have the Legal Means to UnMask any eventual Wrong-Doer, in order to be able to use the traditional, adequate Legal Procedures if he/she really Aggressed someone else in an unjustifiable, Brutal and/or Damaging way. But, in Fact, it seems that this can Already be done, essentially, by the available Legal and Technical Instruments...



    However, on the Contrary, in case of Clear Abuse and/or Illegality, Slandering, etc., the Competent and Responsible Public Authorities should have the Legal Means to UnMask any eventual Wrong-Doer, in order to be able to use the traditional, adequate Legal Procedures if he/she really Aggressed someone else in an unjustifiable, Brutal and/or Damaging way. But, in Fact, it seems that this can Already be done, essentially, by the Available Legal and Technical Instruments...

 

    - So, why that Rush ?

 

 

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Benedict's "Source" to revitalize Europe : - "The World needs Hope", Pope says, calling to relaunch E.U. via Human Rights !

Paris - Lourdes - Strasbourg : 12 - 17 September 2008.

The vital need to re-launch Europe can be succesfully met by defending fundamental Human Rights of the People, said Pope Benedict XVI in his 1st speech in France, at his meeting with President Nicolas Sarkozy, who currently chairs the EU.

Sarkozy replied by welcoming Christian and other religions' contribution to indispensable Public Debates on crucial issues which affect Human Dignity, Europe, even Humankind, as BioGenetics.

- "When Europeans will see and personally experience that the inalienable Rights of the Human Person .., those of their free Education, their Family life, their Work, ..their Religious Rights, ..are respected and promoted, then, these Europeans will fully understand the greatness of the European construction and will be actively involved in it", Benedict XVI stressed.

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- "It's important that during France's EU Presidency, there is, indeed, a desire for the Church to contribute to protect Human Person's integrity, and I think that there is also a growing Conscience, beyond any polemics, to defend Human Rights, and, thus, contribute to ensure respect for Human Dignity", added to "EuroFora" the Pope's Spokesman, Vatican's Press Director Federico Lombardi.

- "Nobody really told us here that Lisbon Treaty was good for this or that reason to the People. They only told us that we "had" to ratify it, and tried to scare us, but failed", said 2 Irish pilgrims to "EuroFora", after 2 Majority Abstentions in 1999 and 2004 EU Elections and 3 "NO" to Referenda in France and the Netherlands in 2005, followed by the Irish "No" in 2008, during a Decade of EU Crisis since the controversial Turkey EU- bid (1999-2008).

More than .."224 cases of Murders, Torture, "Disappearancies" or Destructions" by "agents of Turkish Security forces", where all those responsible for so heavy Crimes still remain scandalously unpunished, despite regular condemnations of Ankara by Strasbourg''s European Court of Human Rights from 1996 to 2008, were examined the same week by CoE's Ministers, who decided to launch a fresh call "urging" the Turkish Authorities to end this dangerous "virtual Impunity" of criminals, without comparison to European countries.

- "Why not Ukraine, instead of Turkey ?", asked EuroFora a Journalist from "Kiev : the city where it's enough to cross the streets in order to realize that it's a European town", as Sarkozy recently said, before solemnly declaring this week, together with Ukranian President Jushenko and EU Commission's chair Baroso, EU's "recognition that Ukraine is a fully European Country, linked to Europe by culture and History".

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Europe's "Christian roots" and Values, with "openess and mutual respect" to other cultures and beliefs, were highlighted by Sarkozy in harmony with Benedict XVI.

The Human person should be protected "from his inception until his natural death", added the Pope, faithful to BioEthic principles defended by his predecessor and collaborator, John Paul II, of topical importance in France, Europe and the World today, as Sarkozy announced :

- "Fast and important progres in Genetic Science and procreation raise delicate BioEthical Questions to our Democracies", which "involve our view of Humans and Life, and can lead to Social Mutations. That's why they cannot remain only a business of experts", hestressed.

- "It's Politician's responsibility to set a proper framework for such Public Debates", as "France will do on BioEthics in 2009". "Religious and Philosophic traditions must take part, with their ideas and centuries' long experience : A positive Laicity is an open invitation to Dialogue", he said.

- "France engaged in Europe at another Debate on how to make Financial Capitalism more moral", and the "Social doctrine of the Church fits well what is at stake in modern Globalized Economy"

- "But, a "Real Dialogue is not for an elite of a Globalized world : It penetrates deep into the People : That's why Churches should actively participate : .. It's bringing New Oxygen to Public Debates", stressed Sarkozy.

- "Democracy must not be cut off Reason", which is "compatible with Faith", thanks to "the meeting between Christianism and Greek philosophy ", he added, referring to Pope's views. "It means to advance with logic arguments, search what's best and respect common principles of thinking :... It's an everyday need for Public Administration and the Political Debate", he added.
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Pope Benedict's 1st visit to France looked like the start of a brillant, manifold demonstration that this was well-founded and could become true in the lives of the People : After its Theoretical foundations unfolded at a "speech to the world of Culture", inaugurating Bernadins' cultural centre, and its dogmatic instrument shaped at an address to the Clergy in the Historic Notre Dame' Cathedral, he started to resolutely reach out to the People :

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The move went upwards like Bach's music : Begining with a call to more than fifteen thousand enthousiastic Youngsters gathered at Notre Dame's parvis with overnight celebrations, it gained strength in an impressive open-air Mass at Paris'central Invalides'area facing Alexander III's bridge, attended by more than 150.000 people, French Prime Minister Fillon, many Ministers, Foreign Ambassadors, etc, and culminated in a series of pan-European Mega-meetings at Lourdes 150th anniversary, together with all French Bishops, EU Commission's vice-Chairman Barrot, and some 200.000 enthousiastic People from all over Europe and beyond : After a Sea of Lights astonishingly braved Saturday Night's rain, an open-air mass at riverside fields among Pyrenees' Mountains Sunday Morning, was followed on Monday by a Sea of "Compassion" to those facing Health or Life threats, surrounded by an endless gathering of People, whose gigantic dimensions obviously surprised the organisers..

Meanwhile, Benedict had the occasion to speak to the French Priests at Notre Dame of Paris, and with the Bishops at Lourdes, where they prepare a crucial November plenary meeting, due to take important decisions on imminent EU debates and choices about Europe's identity, BioEthics, etc.
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- "A new way of thinking about Laicity has become necessary", agreed the Pope with President Sarkozy at Elysee. While keeping the "distinction between Politics and Religion, to guarantee Citizens' Liberty", "religion is important for shaping Consciousness and contributing, together with others, to create a basic Ethical Consensus in society".

- "Searching Essential realities", (as "God" for christians), needs "Speech : "Logos" in greek, i.e. Reason", "able to shape a Community","with creative work transforming Human History". But "Dialogue" is instrumental for "Reason", because it's the way to "search" for Truth", in "Liberty", according to Greek Platonic Philosophy, with Socrates' dialectics. "Reason" implies "Spirit and Liberty", hence the polyphonic "Music" of "Dialogue", in a responsible, "well balanced" way, to avoid "destruction".

Starting with a "Dialogue between christians and intellectual or artistic movements" highlighted at Bernardins' Cultural Center. with former Presidents Chirac and Giscard d'Estain, UNESCO's chair Anastassopoulos, etc., as well as representatives of Muslim Communities, (including a separate Turkish), after contacts with Jews at Vatican's Embassy, the Pope turned towards the People :

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To French Priests : "Church built on the rock" !
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- Speaking to thousands of French Priests at Notre Dame's Cathedral, Benedict highlighted a solid "Church built on the Rock" of conscious and active persons, transmitting "a lively, energetic and sharp" "God's Speech, actively working on Human History".

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"Praying together" with "representatives of Christian Churches and ecclesiastic communities", (as Orthodoxes, Armenians, Protestants, etc), he called "to reinforce the Unity of the church", against "any form of Division", around Holy Spirit', "the Word","Christ's Justice", and "Love" to fellow- humans : Essentials which "resume all holy scripts", as he said.

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To Young People : "New Horizons"
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To some 15.000 enthousiastic Young People at Notre Dame's parvis, along Seine's river, Benedict spoke about "the Energy of the Holy Spirit" and "the Mystery of the Cross" : - "The Holy Spirit opens New Horizons to Human Intelligence .. and makes it conscious of the real greatness of Christ's sacrifice, dying and resurecting for World's life".

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Some "may slander you as crazy, laugh at you, or even persecute you. But, "the Holy Cross is a symbol of God's love", and "givesmoral strength" : "Witness of People's pains, it's at the same time, a precious, unique expression of their Hopes", he told them at Paris' dawn.

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Invalides' plateau : "People chosen to become God's friends"
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At the 1st open-air Mass in Paris' center area of Invalides, facing the Grand Palais, along the river Seine, during an impressive gathering of more than 150.000, French Prime Minister Fillon, Ministers Alliot-Marie, Bachelot, Dati, Jouyet, Assembly's President Accoyer, Senate's Chair Poncelet, former 1st Lady Bernadette Chirac, former Prime Minister Raffarin, many foreign Ambassadors, and other political personalities were present. (While earlier, from the Socialist opposition, Paris' Mayor Delanoye, artist Robert Hussein a.o. assisted at the Elysee meeting).

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But the "Entry Song" focused on the "People chosen to become God's Friends". The September 11 mass was Dedicated to "Saint Chrysostomus, that great priest of Constantinople", with his "wonderful eloquence and great courage to face challenges", who "made out of despaired and godless people, a people of brothers", opening a possibility to "become all one complete entity", as Pope Benedict reminded.

- "Reason never enters in real contradiction with Faith", stressed Pope Benedict, who prepared his speeches for France during a short Summer rest at Brixen/Bressanone's Seminar, whose Library honors both "Faith and Science".. - "We must use not only our Reason, but also our Faith" : "Get away from Idolatry", "cupidity", "avidity for money, power or even knowledge deviating from essential aims", and other "falses appearances". and "build your Home on the Rock", "with the force that Holy Spirit gives to those who let it act in them", he said to the People of Paris.

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Benedict at Lourdes : - "Become Light (even) in the Dark !"
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- "Our World needs Hope", stressed Pope Benedict, addressing an impressive TorchLight procession at Lourdes' sanctuaries, where a Sea of Lights held by Hundreds of Thousands of People gathered at Pyrenee's Mountains from all over Europe astonishingly kept their flames despite a heavy Rain at a windy Dark Night...

- "150 years earlier (1858 - 2008), ..here, in the cave, ... a simple young girl, Bernadette .. saw a Light". "The everyday life of her Family was, however, made of Misery, Sadness, Sickness, Misunderstandings, Rejection and Poverty... It was hard to live in Jail". Today, "we think to all Human Beings who suffer : The innocent Victims who face Violence, War, Terrorism, Hunger, Injustices, Catastrophes, Hate and Oppression, Violations of Human Dignity and of their fundamental Rights, of their Liberty to act and think. We also think to those who face Familial problems, sufferings from Unemployment, Sickness, Infirmity, Isolation, or their situation as Immigrants, without forgetting those who suffer and die for the name of Christ", he said.

- "But the Shadows of the Earth, did not hinder Sky's Light to shine : <<The Light shines in the Dark>>" ..."A Way full of Light opens in Human History even in its Darkest moments" : ..."As Night falls, Christ tels us : <<- Keep your Lamps alight !>>."Hold a Light while walking in the Night .. sums up our condition as Christians on their way : "We need light, and we are called to become Light !", Benedict stressed to People setting in motion Lights, Flags and Songs with enthousiasm.

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"<<- She looked at me as a Person, who speaks to another Person>>, the poor girl had noted."Light emerges from such a Dialogue", stressed the Pope : "A small Flame called Hope, Compassion and Tenderness dwells inside those who return after being moved by Lourdes' experience". "Christ .. entrusts us with the Mission to let the Light of Charity shine : To make of our Prayers an Act of Love to our brothers and to Fraternal Charity", he concluded.

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