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EU Regions Committee Head +CLRAE v.Chair Lambertz to EF on Tabarnia Split from Catalonia in Spain

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Tuesday, 27 March 2018
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*Strasbourg/CoE/Angelo Marcopolo/- EU Regions' Committee new President in Brussels, and CLRAE vice-President in Strasbourg, Karl-Heintz Lambertz, speaking to "Eurofora" on the latest Developments of the Catalan Issue in Spain, observed, inter alia, also that the Recent Popular Moves for a Detachment of the so-called "Tabarnia" Area from Catalonia Region, (fuelled mainly by Political Disagreements on a Controversial and Failed Unilateral Secessionist Attempt by Former Leaders of the latter), is Not a Unique Phenomenon, since it has Similar, even if not totaly Identical, Examples also elsewhere in Europe (See Infra).

 

+ And, additional Facts found by "Eurofora", clearly indicate, that the overall "Tabarnia" Issue, might be much More Serious than it seems at First Sight, (as we shall see Infra)... 

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Lambertz is also a Long-Time Leader of the German-speaking Region in Belgium, and an Experienced vice-President of CoE's PanEuropean Local/Regional Democracy Watchdog : the 47 Member Countries-wide Congress of Local and Regional Authorities of Europe (CLRAE), as well as a Writer of comprehensive Books about Regions in Europe, with a Deep and Extensive Knowledge of Regional realities throughout the entire Continent, and well beyond.

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"Tabarnia" is a rather New reference to a Coherent and the most Important Part of Catalonia's Region in Spain, which reportedly pre-existed, as a satirical Geo-Political Idea, at least since 2012, but Became Famous mainly after the December 2017 Spanish Local/Regional Elections (see: http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/spanishunionistsgrowincatalonia.html, etc), and particularly since a Big Popular Demonstration in Barcelona, at the Beginning of March 2018.

 

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Opposed to the Unilateral Secessionism from Spain, pushed by Catalonia Region's Former Leaders, on the Contrary, the Supporters of "Tabarnia" Idea want, for their Area, to Leave and Get Out of such a controversial, separatist Catalan reality, by Becoming Autonomous, while still Remaining inside the Spanish Country and in the EU.

 

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Their Geographic Area includes mainly Barcelona (Capital) City and Taragona, as well as Many Other adjacent Lands, which extend accross Most of the Seaside, and Bring Together some among the Richest and more Developed Parts of the Spanish Catalan Region, (See relevant MAPs, attached herewith).

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(Tabarnia's area, as seen from the Space - "Plataforma por Tabarnia")
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>>> Most Important : In that "Tarbania" Area, a more or less Clear Majority against the pro-Unilateral Secessionism or Independentist Parties has Recently Won the Greatest Number of Votes, particularly in the December 2017 Regional Elections in Spain's Catalonia, in Addition to the Fact that the Separatist Parties Only got, Region-Wide, a Minority of 47%, (receiving a Slightly Larger Number of Seats just Because the current Catalan Representative System notoriously Favors particularly the Outer and/or Rural Areas, which are Backing them, in a way which obviously Provokes an InEquality among Voters, and/or more or less UnDemocratic Results on the Number of Representatives : See http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/spanishunionistsgrowincatalonia.html).


Indeed, as relevant MAPs Published also by "Wikipedia" clearly show, in the "Tabarnia" Area, (around Barcelona and most of the Seaside), Most of the Voters have Refused the Separatism, (as Also in some Other, but Smaller and Differend Areas, Located Elsewhere).

 

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And this Localized Phenomenon should, in Fact, be even Stronger than what these "Wikipedia" MAPs show, Because they, curiously, Exclude the "Podemos" Voters, who (without necessarily supporting directly that "Tabarnia" idea), are, however, Against Separatism, them too...

 

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=> So that, the "Tabarnia" Movement obviously Supports a clearly Localized Revendication of an Area whose Population Mostly feels United Together by a Barcelona/Taragona-Centered Majority Aspiration towards a Distinct Common Identity, proclaimed to be Both ..."Tabarnian", and Catalan, as well as Spanish and European, (as its Fans Explain even at several, specially dedicated Websites).


The assumed Fact that it's also, for many, a Satirical "Parody" (See Infra), does not exclude the Additional Fact that, at any case, it's, UnQuestionably, Based on a Localized Political Will clearly Directed Against Catalan Separatism.

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- It's in this overall Context, that Presidet Lambertz told "Eurofora", in particular, that a Similar (even if Not necessarily 100% Identical) Move, as that of "Tabarnia"s aspiration to Leave a Separatist Catalonia, for anOther Region, Exists Already also Elsewhere in Europe :  


- As, "f.ex., in Italy, and particularly at the Region of Venice", a Part of which had expressed the Wish to Go Elsewhere (inside the Italian Country), as Lambertz observed, in Reply to a relevant "Eurofora"s Question.


- However, Lambertz, (who is an eminent member of the Socialist Group inside the CLRAE), also Added, at his own Initiative, and speaking more widely about the Manifold Developments about the Catalan Issue, from Various and Different aspects, that he did "not like" some Other Attempts by certain Politicians to Exploit the Catalan Controversy for this or another Political Interest, as he said, as a matter of General Principle.

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- But it's also a Fact that ECR's President, who Signed Today a "revised Cooperation Agreement" with CLRAE's President, Gudrun Mosler-Törnstrom from Austria, while Speaking at CLRAE's Plenary about Prospects to extend EU's Cooperation towards various Non-EU Foreign Countries, even Out of Europe, was, by a Symbolic "Coincidence", visibly sitting Aside a Seat offiicialy reserved for ..."China" :  I.e. the Only UN SC Permanent Member which has Not Yet any Official Status inside the CoE in Strasbourg, (Russia and USA already having one, as well as the UK and France), and notoriously does Not Like "Secessionist" movements in any Region, at all... (See relevant PHOTO).

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+ Moreover, anOther Official of the CoE, (Strasbourg's PanEuropean Organisation for Human Rights, Democracy and Rule of Law), Afterwards told "Eufofora" that (in a Different Context),  the Canadian Law has a provision for any Region which might, eventually, wish to Seek to become Independent, that If a Part of it, eventually, Wishes, on the Contrary, to Stay inside the Country (Canada), then, it's Free to do so...

 
Canada holds, already since 1996+, a Special Status inside the CoE, (as also the USA, Japan, Australia, Mexico, etc), and some of its Representatives are Often Active, particularly in various CoE's Inter-Governemental Committees, as well as, especially in CoE's Parliamentary Assembly, etc.


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- Meanwhile, Clarifying further that "Tabarnia" Movement Issue, while Speaking to "Eurofora" earlier in Brussels, the Experienced EU Parliament's Director of Communications (including Press/Medias), Jaume Duch, (who knows well Barcelone since his own origin was from that City), stressed that it was, initially, a mainly "Satyrical" or "Comedy" Move, staging "a Parody" of the Secessionists, to whom they are Opposed in Catalonia.


+ In Addition, "they (i.e. "Tabarnia" Supporters) don't speak about Secession from the Spanish Country, but just for the Departure of their Area from the current Catalan Region, on the Level of Local/Regional DeCentralisation", Duch further Clarified explicitly.

 
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Having, indeed, in Addition to a Distinct, specific Name, Flag and Territory, as well as Core Political Ideology, also ... a potential "President", (initially Personified in the face of Comical Theater/Cinema Actor Albert Boadella : whose "¨Presidential Address" got more than 300.000 Views in "YouTube"),

 

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"Tabarnia" (whose "Official" Twitter Account -among Many- has now almost 60.000 Followers), however, particularly after the Success of its March 2018 Popular Demonstration (whose Organizers revendicate about 200.000 Participants),

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and some 110.000 Web Viewers of its Press Conference in EU Parliament during the latest EU Summit in Brussels on 22/3/2018,

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as well as 648.000 Mentions of its Name in Twitter only Last Christmas already, nowadays Cited by "BBC", "EuroNews", etc., it might Become a quite Serious Affair, sooner or later.


"Tabarnia" has, at least, the Merit to substitute rapidly wide-spreading Critical Public Debate, with a sense of Humour based on Serious Facts, to Abrupt Unilateral Moves by a Minority Risking to provoke Dangerous Violent Conflicts, and, at any case, it has certainly Not Stopped from making People Speak about her !...

 

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Last, but Not Least : Facts even indicate that "Tabarnia" Supporters' Wish to get rid from what they percieve (Rightfully of Wrongly, More or less) as a Band of Money-Driven Selfish Egoists, and/or Hypocrits, Oppressive (f.ex. the Exclusion of the Spanish Language from Official Documents in a Secessionist Catalonia, etc), Violent, Corrupted, etc., as an Explicit Cartoon published by "EuroNews" clearly shows (See relevant ScreenShot+ attached herewith), may be, in substance, much More Right than they think :
 
 
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>>> Indeed, the Notorious "Star" of Catalonian Separatists, Carles Puigdemont, has been Born, Worked Most of his Life, and was Elected as Local Representative (to Catalonia Region), always Based at the far away, remote Province of Girona, (at the extreme North-East of Spain, close to France's Borders : I.e. exactly there where came from also the notorious "Imam" of Ripoll City's radicalized Mosque, Together with a Band of other Deadly Islamist Terrorists, that he Led towards the Recent atrocious Massacre which Cowardly Targetted innocent Civilian People in Barcelona (i.e. inside "Tarbania"'s Area) on August 2017, Killing more than 15 and Wounding + 130 Persons ! (A Massacre which, obviously, could have been Much More Deadly and Destructive, reportedly Targetting also the World-Famous Christian Church of "Sacred Family", if that Imam had Not made a Blunder, by Exploding his shelf-made Bombs before reaching his real Target... See : http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/barcelonaterrorrevealseuropeanpoliticalproblem.html).
 
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>>> Astonishingly, Puigdemont was Born at Amer City, between Ripoll City (Base of that Terrorist RingLeader Imam), and Girona City, all of them Located very Near to EachOther and inside that Province of Girona, in Catalonia, at the North-East of Spain, facing the French Borders, (See relevant MAP), but Out of, and Far Away from the "Tabarnia" Area, where the Victims of that Massacre were Located...
 
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Puigdemont reportedly Worked as a Journalist "in Various Local Publications" from 1982, Before becoming, Later-on, Head Editor of one among the Local Medias at Girone : "El Punt" (now Extinct), infamous for having been "the Most Heavily Subsidized by the Catalan Region's Government", as "Wikipedia" Denounces. This Helped him to find a Job, for a while (1999-2002), as Head Editor of a Regional "Catalonia News Agency", totaly Owned by that same Catalan Government, before Falling Back Down to the Provincial Level, Briefly apointed as Head of a Cultural Center run by Girona City, (2002-2004).

Shortly Afterwards, he Starts a Political Career at the Lowest Local Level, in the Municipal Council of Girona, before becoming Mayor of Girona City (2007-2011+), while, almost at the Same Time, he had been elected as one among the Representatives of Girona Province to the Catalan Region's Assembly.
 
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After Waiting until 2016, then, Suddenly, he is Propulsed at the Head of Catalonia, as President, by a Deal Between his Party, CDC, (currently PDeCAT), and the Small Leftist CUP Party, several  Members of which were already Known for their Relations with Controversial local ...Muslim Lobbies, including even with Persecuted and Condemned Dangerous Extremist Islamists, accused to be Mixed in Terrorism, (See : http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/barcelonaterrorrevealseuropeanpoliticalproblem.html).

Key Members of that CUP Party (thanks to which Puigdemont got the Top Job in Catalonia) had Earlier Worked with some Lobbies of Muslim Aliens pushing towards a Right to Vote for Foreign Immigrants to Local and Regional Elections, and even, in order to Free from Prison for Jihadist and Terrorism-related activities, a Butcher - Imam of a Suburb of Barcelona who had been in the Past the ... Indoctrinator of Ripoll's Imam, the radicalized Islamist Terrorism Ring-Leader from Girona Province, and Guide of Barcelona Massacre of 2017 (Comp. Supra) !

=> In Only 1 Year's Time : on 2017, Puigdemont pushed for an UnPrecedented and illegal Unilateral Secession Referendum in Catalonia, which provoked a Serious Crisis in Spain, with obvious potentially Dangerous Repercussions all accross Europe...

Sighnificantly, these Sudden 2016 and 2017 Big Upheavals, (Puigdemont's Election to Catalonia Region's Presidency on 2016, and the subsequent 2017 illegal Referendum for Unilateral Secessionism and Independence, added to the August 2017 Barcelona Massacre by Islamist Terrorists Cowardly Targetting Civilian People : Comp. Supra), Occured shortly Afther the Local/Regional Elections of 2015, where those (CUP and Others) Local Politicians who had Earlier (f.ex. between 2007-2011, etc) worked with the above-mentioned Foreign Muslim Lobbies and/or even Convicted Islamist Extremists, Jihadists and Terror suspects (including the InDoctrinator of Ripoll's Imam, the Ring-Leader of Barcelona Massacre : Comp. Supra), were Elected, for the First Time, at Key Positions in various Catalan Local and Regional Organisations, (Comp.: http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/barcelonaterrorrevealseuropeanpoliticalproblem.html), while, already, "in 2013, nearly a Third (1/3) of those Arrested in Spain on Charges related to Islamic Extremism were Based in Catalonia", (according to the World-Famous British Newspaper "Guardian").
 
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+ The "Guardian" also reminds the Fact that, Back "in July 2001, two months before the 9/11 Attacks in New York, Mohammed Atta, who Led the attacks, met Ramzi Binalshibh, the Link-man between Atta’s group and al-Qaida, in Cambrils" : ... i.e. there where One among the Two Deadly Islamist Terrorist Attacks (including that in Barcelona) were Committed by Ripoll Imam's Armed Gang on August 2017 (Comp. Supra) !
 
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=> From All these Facts, it seems really Possible, and even Highly Probable, that "Tabarnia"s Move Out of the Rest of Catalonia (Comp. Supra), might, indeed, Help Tabarnian People to get rid (as they Wish : See relevant Cartoon published by "Plataforma por Tarbania", shown Supra), Not Just of Corruption-related, but also of various Islamist Extremism and/or Terrorism-Related Politicians among those Catalonian Separatists...

+ And, on this occasion, Puidgemont's astonishing, Long-Term Personal and/or local Links to his remote Province of Girona, where "Local People (were) Shocked to discover (that) Barcelona Killers lived among them", (as that, above-mentioned, 2017 "Guardian" Article stressed from the outset), Might even Help to, eventually, Avoid having to use so Harsh Methods as (currently) Arresting and Jailing Puigdemont during his Transit by Car from Finland towards Belgium, through Germany, in view of a possible Extradition to the National Spanish Government :
 
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=> Thanks to the above-mentioned "Tabarnia" Popular Movement's Dream, indeed, it might, eventually, become Possible, in the foreseable Future, to Simply ...Expulse such Dangerous Separatists, as Mr. Puigdemont is accused to be, Back to his Remote Catalan Province of Girona, somewhere Between his Natal "Amer" City, and Barcelona Islamist Terrorist Massacre Ring-Leader's, Ripoll Imam's radicalized Mosque, located Nearby (Comp. Supra), i.e. far Away from a Brand-New and Independent "Tabarnia" Region of Spain, Away from Barcelona City, but Out there, in the Wilderness...
 
 
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Former "Green-Red" German government's Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer's job at the controversial Turkish pipeline "Nabucco" was denounced as "not proper", "very bad", and "incompatible with Democracy", by the new President of EU Parliament's EuroLeft Group, German Lothar Bisky, replying to an "EuroFora" question.

For once, criticism of Joschka Fischer's doings with Turkey affecting Europe, didn't come only from the Center-Right of the political spectrum, but even from his Left side : The experienced Bisky, who has been chairing all over 1993-2009 the PDS - Die Linke party :  

- "Former Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer got involved in dealings with oil-gaz business in a foreign country, Turkey, and its controversial Nabucco pipeline. This raises questions about Democracy, also because of the well known problems of Human Rights violations in that country. Do you thing that this might be abused in order to cover up and close EU's eyes on Human Rights violations ?", "EuroFora" asked Bisky.

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- "Nabucco pipeline is (only) at the planning stage". And "there are some difficulties",  he observed from the start. But "'I don't want to get into the details of Nabucco pipeline, because I don't think that there is any point for it at the moment".
 
At any case,  "we  (EU Parliament's EuroLeft Group) strongly believe that Politicians should not get involved in the Energy Business, and all these commercial transactions", President Bisky declared on the Joschka Fiischer's affair.

- "We feel that it's something that shouldn't be done. It's not proper !"           

- "We don't think that it's compatible with Democracy either, and it gets politics into a very Bad track", Bisky went on to denounce.
                                                                                                                                                                        
- "EuroLeft  and "Die Linke" always spoke against that, saying that politicians should not get directly into the arms of private enterprises"

- "It is pretty bad if a former Minister takes a job f.ex. in a major Energy producer. So, it's an issue if a Minister who may have seen excellent opportunities, subsequently gets personally grasp of them, in very serious parts of the economy, once he has given up his (Government) job."

- "It doesn't really make politics in general look any better'", Bisky concluded.

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Earlier, this week in Strasbourg, other Journalists had also raised critical questions on former Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer's involvement in the conroversial Turkish Nabucco pipeline to the President of his own EuroParty : Kohn-Bendit of the "Greens", who, contrary to Bisky, tried to find excuses for Fischer, while criticizing his long-time partner, Schroeder for having done a similar move :

- "Shroeder was chancellor", and he "negociated" with "Russians", who gave him a job only "3 Months" after he resigned from the Government. While "Joschka Fischer", on the contrary, got a job with the controversial Turkish Nabucco pipeline only "4 Years after" he left the Government. "He didn't negociate Nabucco", so I have "no objection", Kohn Bendit claimed.

But, many Facts indicate the contrary :

Joschka Fischer was Foreign Minister in Germany from 1999 up to 2005 : I.e. from the year that EU took the controversial decision to give Turkey a "Candidate" status, until he year it started controversial "accession negotiations, (later declared "open-ended" after Sarkozy-Merkel's arrival from 2005-2007).

During that period was prepared the controversial so-called "Annan" Plan (in fact, drafted by others and attributed afterwards to the former UN SG) on Cyprus, which failed after a Popular Referendum said "No" on 2004 with a large Majoriy of 3/4 : 75%. Mainly because it was criticized for making too much concessions to the Turkish side :  Particularly by restricting Greek Cypriot Refugees' Human Right to return to their ancestral Land and/or get restitution of their Familiy Homes and private properties, usurpated by Ankara's Army since the 1974 militay invasion and continuing occupation of the northern part of Cyprus. And by weakening the Central Government, leaving to 2 "constituent States" so much powers and separate interests that more conflicts appeared inevitable, provoking the danger of a break-down in the foreseable future, with more crisis, troubles, perhaps bloodshed, etc., instead of creating an harmoniously integrated, really one federal State.

The controversial Plan was finalized on March-April 2004 at Burgenstock (Switzerland), curiously in the presence of an Envoy by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Germany, then governed by Joschka Fischer, but in the absence of a French and not even an European Union's Envoy, contrary to what was usually practiced on similar occasions in Switzerland (fex. in 1997 at Montreux, in 2000 at Geneva, etc).

Turkey notoriously exploited the failure of the "Annan" Plan in order to convince the EU to decide to start accession Negotiations on December 2004. This provoked an unprecedented series of Institutional Crisis inside the EU, shortly afterwards, when French and Dutch People rejected, 2 popular EuroReferenda by a majority "'No" vote to the EU Constitutional Treaty on 2005, aggraveted in 2004 a Majority Abstention to EU Elections, etc., followed by the recent Irish "No", etc.

"Nabucco" Gas pipeline was notoriously planned since ..2002. It follows an even earlier idea, for an Oil pipeline Baku-Ceyhun, which started to be prepared on 1999-2001 and was meanwhile recently completed.  

So, facts indicate that what is now at stake is based on decisions made during Joschka Fischer's term as former Foreign Minister, closely interested in Turkey's controversial EU-bid.

To the point that he now practically ...switched jobs with a poliician from Turkey, (the State which pays today openly Joschka Fischer), Mr. Ozdemir, who came earlier in Germany, got fast the nationality, and became EiuroMP in a few years, continuing now as head of the "Greens" in Germany, i.e. in Joschka's former job !...

Such astonishing facts risk, unfotunately, to give to German politician Lothar Bisky's criticism of  representative Democracy a topical meaning :

 - "We (EuroLeft Group) think that what is really at stake is Democracy. It's not only about Gas Pipelines or Energy sources", President Lothar Bisky went on to add in his reply to "EuroFora"'s question on Joscka Fischer's personal interests in the controversial Turkish "Nabuco" pipeline.

Such facts, "make People get more distance from Politics. ...People had had enough, and they are fed up !".

- "That's why we (EuroParliament's "EuroLeft" Group) want to strengthen Direct Democracy in Europe. Citizens should be involved in the (EU) Decision-making. In the end of the day, it's not going to help anyone if Politicians are always taking decisions, without involving Citizens. We want to give a voice to the People of Europe. They've got to have their say in the decisions that are taken. That's one of our absolutely fixed and steadfast views. We want more Direct Democracy in Europe. That's how it can become more effective and stronger", he concluded.

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