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ECHR Raises Critical Questions v. Compulsory Controversial Vaccines against Human Rights in France+

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07.10.21
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*Strasbourg/Angelo Marcopolo/- With an Important Series of Moves, which may Affect, Directly several European States, (but Also, indirectly, USA and Other Countries in the World, holding a Special Status at the CoE), the Strasbourg-Based PanEuropean Court of Human Rights (ECHR), strong of 47 Member States (including Russia), for the 1st Time, Raised Critical Questions versus making Compulsory a Few Controversial Vaccines, (while Many Others, Already at the 3rd, Final Stage of Tests, are Still Not Authorized in the EU : See http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/majorityvaccinesclassicbutnotyeteu.html, etc), against Human Rights, particularly in France, Expecting a full Reply well Before the Crucial, forthcoming Presidential and Parliamentary Elections of April and June 2022, respectively.

ECHR's relevant Moves Follow a Critical Warning by CoE's Secretary General, Marija Buric-Pejcinovic, (former Vice-Prime Minister in Croatia), Published as Early as, Already Since March 2021, (See: http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/coewarnsoneuvaccinationpassports.html), and a Damning Resolution by CoE's Parliamentary Assembly, Later this Year (on June 2021 : See http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/coeslamsviruspassrisks.html, etc), After a Critical Report by CoE's Committee on BioEthics, as well as Several concrete Points Raised, meanwhile, by the French Higher Administrative Court ("Conseil d'Etat"), in the Meantime, and Refers, in Addition, to Similar (but Not Identical) Legal Complaints recently Lodged against equivalent Controversial Measures taken in Greece, (even if in Partly Different Circumstances and/or Official Motivations). ECHR stands at the Core of the CoE, the PanEuropean Organisation for Democracy, Rule of Law and Human Rights, which hosts Also the International Treaty on "BioEthics" (alias Human Rights and Medicine or Biology), the Only Legaly Binding Convention, Open for signature by Any Country in the World, in that Topical Area, known as "Treaty of Oviedo" (since 1998). ECHR's Presidency had Recently expressed, on 2020, its Readiness into Interpreting such BioEthical Legal Principles and Rules, (See, f.ex.: http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/coesgburiconechrbioethicsinterpretation.html, etc).

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    The Main Case of Today concerns a Legal Complaint lodged by a French Fire-Fighter, Pierrick Thevenon, aged 33, against a Law of August 5, 2021, which Imposes, to some Categories of Workers, a Compulsory Full Vaccination, with one of 4 Vaccines Authorized in the EU, (Comp. Supra + Infra), Otherwise being Suspended from their

    This is, Currently, the Only such Application Pending on that "Hot", Topical Issue, as some Other, Similar but Not Identical Cases, in France and Greece, have been Rejected, for Procedural Reasons, related to their own Claims. + But 712 Other Persons have Already Declared their Intention to Lodge an Identical Application to the ECHR, as Thevenon did, on this Same Issue asap, the EuroJudges observed.  

    The 4 Questions Raised by the Court's 5th Section, Chaired by ECHR VicePresident Miss Siofra O'Leary from Ireland, Professor at Cambridge University, and Vice-Chair Mārtiņš Mits, University Professor from Lund, Sweden, include, in particular, whether the Suspension sine die of his Salary, after Refusal to get Vaccinated by certain Jabs, was "a Breach of his Right to the Enjoyment of his Posessions" (Article 1 of the 1st Protocol to the ECoHR, which Protects mainly Private Property), and/or if he faced a "Discrimination, based on his Occupation", because, "Unlike Other Workers", he was "Obliged" to Obey to that as Order, (in Violation of Articles 14 and 8 of the ECoHR). In addition, ECHR Also asked whether such a "Compulsory Vaccination" with certain Jabs was "a Breach of his Right to Respect for his Private Life", (but also if he had "Exhausted Domestic Remedies" in France, as a purely Procedural Requirement).

    The competent French Authorities were given by the ECHR a Time Deadline for Reply until January 27, 2022, i.e. Well Before the above-mentioned Presidential and Parliamentary Elections, but in the Middle of the relevant Socio-Political Debates, (Comp. Supra).

    In ECHR's Long History and relevant Case-Law, the Violation of Private Property clause (Comp. Supra), has Notoriously been Used by EuroJudges also in order to Sanction some Very Grave Violations of Human Rights, such as, f.ex., the still Persisting Deprivation of Greek-Cypriot Refugees/Displaced Persons' access to their Family Homes, Belongings, and Ancestral Land, by the Turkish Military Invasion and Occupation of the Island's Northern Territories since 1974 : - "That's what we really Wanted to Condemn, But the Tragedy is that most EuroJudges prefered to put it under the <<Private Property>> clause", had characteristicaly Told "Eurofora"'s Co-Founder Refugee Miss Tina Loizidou, Already since 1994, when she was the 1st to Win such a Landmark and World-Famous case...

    Even if this 1st Individual Application by Mr. Thevenon might, Eventually, be Rejected Later-on for Purely Procedural Claims, (as, f.ex., the "Non Exhaustion of Domestic Remedies", i.e. if he DidN't yet Find the Time to Previously Address himself to All the Competent French Courts, as All Applicants routinely have to do Before comming to Strasbourg), then, Obviously, Nothing Hinders Both Himself, Afterwards, and/or Any of those Other 712 Victims of the Same Problems, who have Already Declared their Intention to Lodge asap. a Similar Application to the ECHR, as EuroJudges noted (Comp. Supra), to eventualy Repeat All or Part of those Same Other 3 Key Points, mentioned in Today's ECHR's Decision.

    + Moreover, Earlier, (as ECHR's Services Reminded Today), a somewhat Similar, But Not Identical, Collective Application Lodged by Greek People, (30 Health Workers, Private Doctors or Public Hospital staff), had Also Raised Many Other, Interesting Legal Points, including Also, f.ex., alleged Violations of the Human Right to Life, Inhuman/Degrading Treatment, Forced Labour or Slavery,  Liberty and Security, Fair Hearing, etc.., referring to Articles 2, 3, 4, and 5 of the European Convention on Human Rights. (Even if their 1st such Move had been Droped, on September 2021, for Various Points Specific to the Particular Way that They had Presented that Initial, concrete Application, then).

      On "Liberty", a Fundamental Principle of CoE's landmark Convention on BioEthics is the Need of a well "Informed Consent" to Any eventual Intervention on Human Health : A Rule Notoriously steming from the Nuremberg Trial against Nazism's notorious InHuman Methods in Concentration Camps, where Detainees were abused as "Cobays" submited to various "Tests", (as those Abused Previously by the Ottoman Turkish Empire against Armenians)...

    Concerning at least the Life/Inhuman-Degrading Treatment/Security relevant Issues, Nowadays, After a Notorious Discreditation of "Astrazeneca"'s Jab, Following several Deaths and Many Suspensions in Various Countries accrosss the World, it's Yesterday Also "Johnson Johnson"'s "Jennsen" Jab which was Suspended in current EU President Slovenia, after a Death, and even the Controversial "m-RNA" Novel Tool used by "Moderna" and "BioNTech/Pfizer", which was Suspended Today in Sweden, Denmark, and Finland, (on the Occasion of "Moderna"), after Several Tragic Incidents, particularly on Heart Inflamations, Even of Young and Healthy People.

Meanwhile, a North American Judge reportedly Suspended a similar Mandatory Vaccination as "BioNTech/Pfizer"/"Moderna", etc., on certain Workers, as in Europe, for Questions of Violation of Christian Religious Beliefs, because of Human Parts from Aborted Embryos allegedly used in such Controversial Jab, (an Issue that has Not Yet been Raised at the ECHR). In Addition, Something Fishy Seems to exist around the Precise Numbers of Deaths due to Side-Effects of suh m-RNA "Fake Vaccines" as those of "BioNTech/Pfizer", given the Fact that some Mainstream Medias cite about "5" Cases throughout all Europe, (plus anOther in New Zeland), while Others, later, cite "6" Cases Only in France. ! But Official Sources are Also cited for alleged ..."386" (sic !)Deaths Questioned after taking a "Pfizer/BioNTech" "Vaccine", Only in France, Just at the Beginning of 2021... However, Astonishingly, ..."Only 1" among them was reportedly Examined as, perhaps, due to those Controversial "Fake Vaccines" !  + Similar Inconsistencies also in USA's relevant Data : Some mainstream Medias (at close periods of Time) point at "Hundreds" of Deaths after taking such "m-RNA" so-called Vaccines, while Others speak of ...several "Thousands" ! Obviously, much More Clarity and Serious Criteria are Needed, in order to Ensure that there is Not any Hidden Blunder or Massacre there...

 *Already from the Beginning, Top Medical (pro-vaccine) Doctors in France had been reportedly Surprized, since 2020, according to Mainstream Press, by an Exceptionaly Long List of Side Effects in this case, to the point that they had Initialy Advised to Better leave such "Vaccines", at least for the Time being, withOut Using them, in order to "Wait", rather, for some "Better Vaccines" than that, (with the Unique Exception of those Too "Fragile" People who Could Not take the Slightest Risk to Wait, Not Even a bit)...*But Others had Even gone Further, f.ex. Warning that Such kind of "m-RNA" Novel Tools Risked, inter alia, Particularly Also to, Sooner or Later, in one way or another, Reveal some Serious Problems against Human Health, concerning mainly "Hemorragies" and/or "Inflamations", with Dangers around "Thrombosis" and/or Heart Issues, as "MyoCardite", "PeriCardite", etc. Indeed, such kind of Dangerous Issues, (including, particularly, Even Young People, apparently in Good Health), seem to have been Multiplying, Recently, Even to the Point to Raise Life or Death matters, (as Recent Facts have just Shown : Com. Supra).

    + However, the Worse, may Still Remain to be Discovered Later-on : Indeed, in Addition to some Possible Syndroms of Facial or Arms' Muscles' Immobilisations, (sometimes Painful, for the latter), etc., at least in Medical Theory, it's not exAcluded a priori that Such "m-RNA" Novel Tools might, Eventualy, Trigger some "Toxic" Reactions "in X Years", certain Medical Experts Warned, according to Mainstream Medias. +More Important Concern, at least from "Eurofora"s point of view : As "BBC" and Others have, Already, Warned, "Proteins", which Notoriously are the "Target" Number 1 of such "m-RNA" Novel Tools, have, Generally, a so "Complex" Molecular Structure, that it has to be Clearly Known and Carefuly Handled, as Any Eventually erroneous or clumsy Change about them "might Provoke Catastrophes !" around the Human Genome... Particulary when such "m-RNA" Novel Tools of "BioNTech" allows "Individualized" Treatment, Special to "Each" Person, Group or Category in the Society, as Mainstream, Professional Medical and/or Financial Medias had Already Noted when Bill Gates Suddenly Invested more than 55 Millions $ in "BioNTech" as Early as Back on September 2019, (i.e. Just at the Eve of a Premonitory "Pandemic" Event Conference that he Notoriously Sponsored at Hopkins University on October 2019 ("Event 201")...

    ++ At any case, concerning at least alleged "Efficiency", t's Certainly a Noteworthy Fact that, While "BioNTech" and "Pfizer" Initialy Announced an Only 90% Efficacy to the American FDA, on the Contrary, just After Competitor "Moderna" Announced a "94,5" Efficiency against the Virus, ... then, Immediately, they Changed and, (in Only 1 Day's Time !), Suddenly Claimed that an "Error" had been Committed, Modifying his "BioNTech/Pfizer" Vaccine's alleged Efficacy by considerably Upgrading it all the way Up to ..."95%", Back on December 2020 ! (But, Nowadays, i.e. After the Middle of 2021, "Pfizer" Finaly Acknowledged an Efficiency of Just about 91%, ...and that Only for a Few Months' Time : See Infra).

    +++ However, it's Obviously much More Grave that "BioNTech/Pfizer" did Not Warn at all, at that Time, (i.e. When USA's FDA and EU's EMA were Considering, Back on December 2020, whether and in which Conditions to eventualy give an "Urgent" Authorisation for his Merchandise), that their "Vaccine" might be Unable to Prevent Infections (by a Pseudo-"Vaccinated" Recipient) to Other People in the Society, (Contrary to what is Traditionaly done by All Other, Real Vaccines, during some 200 Years since European Louis Pasteur's Invention against All kinds of Viruses : 1821-2021) ! So that Both the USA and EU competent http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/pfijfyjhjh.html, etc). In Consequence, Nowadays, (i.e. Later than Middle 2021), when such a Risk has Become, at last, Obvious throughout the whole World, (Even at  ..."Nature" prestigious Scientific Review, on August 2021), throwing Countries like the USA, UK, Israel, etc. into a Mess of Growing Massive Infections, it has Become Inevitably Too Late to fully Rectify things and Re-Start from scratch... The Dangers provoked by giving Credit to such Novel Tools Before any real Scientific Evidence on a so Crucial Point, can, indeed, have "Devastating" Effects, as also the Council of Europe clearly Warned on June 2021 (See : http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/coeslamsviruspassrisks.html, etc) !

    ++++ In Addition, they did Not Warn Even on anOther Important Risk : that for all those Pseudo-"Vaccinated" Recipients of his "BioNTech/Pfizer" "Fake-Vaccine", to get later ...Infected Themselves ! So that when the current US President Biden was Surprized on 2021 to Find that Even several Pseudo-"Vaccinated" Staff ...in the White House had been Infected by the Deadly Virus, he didN't hesitate, among others, also, f.ex., to Block Also such Pseudo--"Vaccinated" Individuals' Entry into the USA by Crossing the Borders of Canada, Recently, as well as to Order "Mask-Wearing" also for them Even Inside their own Family Home's Confined spaces, (etc)... While, in France, even an important New Region's (PACA) President-elect, Despite the fact that he had been "Vaccinated" by such Novel Tools, Neverheless was Found severely Infected, soon After his Election, inevitably making his Mandate Difficult to serve, almost at the Same Time that simple Young Women were Desperately spreading Tears, Schocked by the Fact that they were ...Fired from their Jobs, Because they had been Hired with "Certificates" of being "Vaccinated", but Soon Found ...Infected by the Virus, Despite such "Fake-Vaccines", as those Sold (Expensively) by "BioNTech/Pfizer".

    +++++° But, When their Merchandise had been Authorized, as an "Emergency" Measure, Back on 2020, they had Not Warned the People, Neither the Government Officials, No More, for anOther kind of Big Problem, Even More Heavy and still UnExplored in its Real Dimension, which Remains UnKnown : - I.e. that the Duration of such "Fake-Vaccines" was, in fact, very much Limited in Time, Because their alleged "Efficiency"  was ...Evaporating too Fast, so that All Recipients would Soon have to take anOther, "3rd" "Boosting" Dose, in a Semester, (and withOut Excluding also the Possible Need, perhaps, for an Additional ..."4rth" Dose, Before the Year ends, as some Officials reportedly just Thought at Israel, under condition of Anonymity)... Medical Experts are Cited by Mainstream Press as Attasting that Such Problems had Never been seen Before in Any Vaccine in the World's History, (and "Doubt" whether the People would Accept to be Submitted in so Many "Doses" Each Year).

=> It's for All those Reasons that Experienced French Professor Christian Perronne Rafused to even Call such Novel Tools as "Vaccines", (Except, may be, of "Fake Vaccines")..., Prefering the more Realistic Name : "Gene Therapy" Tools, (in a December 2020 Publication, already)...

 - It's True that some Health Ministers, (as f.ex. the French one), Recently Focused their Claims on Repeatedly supporting that the existing "m-RNA" "Fake-Vaccines", at least, would "Protect from Death or Heavy Hospitalisation up to 95%"... (F.ex., See, inter alia, Also Official Motivation in Text presented to the Highest Administrative Court, "Conseil d'Etat", in the Middle of 2021, etc). >>> But, then, What to say, f.ex., for China's "Classic" Vaccine "CinoVac", which Protects People's Lives or Health from Death or Heavy Hospitalisation reportedly for Up to ..."100%" Each (sic !), according to Official Data of the "WHO" itself, Published since the End of August 2021 ? (It may be true that, Aged People's situation wasN't, reportedly, Sufficiently examined yet in these cases. But, then, all Other Ages are, already, OK).

      Meanwhile, however, the Absolute Majority of Anti-COVID Virus' Vaccines having Reached the 3rd, Final Stage of Tests, are of a "Classic" Technology, similar to that of World-Famous Inventor Louis Pasteur, i.e. already Known and Tested during almost 2 Centuries since his birth : 1821-1921 (See : http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/majorityvaccinesclassicbutnotyeteu.html). But None among them hasN't been Yet Authorized by EMA inside the EU... Not Even those which have been Authorized by the WHO, f.ex. as China's CINOVAC + CINOPHARM, etc ! And that, Despite even German CDU/CSU Health Minister Span's recently Expressed view that the Authorisation of, at least, Some "Classic" Vaccines, would Incite several Hesitant People to get Vaccinated... And/or Despite the Fact that Countries where such a Plurality and Diversity of Vaccines exist, Included of "Classic" Technology, i.e. Based into Stimulating the Natural Human Immunioty System, (in Addition to Public Health Protection [Non-Pharmaceutical] Measures), Tragic Errors of the Past have been Bypassed Efficiently, as Infections and Deaths have almost Stopped, (f.ex. in Hungary, San Marino, etc, added to China, etc). Contrary to those Countries where People have been Traped into the Narrow area of Only 4 Fake "Vaccines" affecting the Human Genome, (as Most EU Member States, Until Now, UK, Israel, the USA, etc), where the Deadly Virus Explodes, according to WHO's Official Data...

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    Meanwhile, in order to practicaly Facilitate Citizens' Access to the ECHR for the Judgement of such cases, during the few Time still Available Before the Situation becomes Too Hard for those affected, ECHR took,; Today, the Exceptional Initiative to Publish even :

- (1) a Video-Guide on how to Lodge Applications in Strasbourg, (2) added to an Overview of All its current Case-Law on Issues concerning the Virus' Pandemic Crisis, and (3) an Analysis of "Interim" Measures, that EurJudges can take in case of Urgency, (including via Critical "Questions" Raised to Governments, as those which were used in Today's above mentioned affair)...

Interestingly, on this occasion, the ECHR reveals that, Recently, its Case Law Multiplied the Number and the Categories of Cases in which EuroJudges accept to Take "Interim Measures" in order to Face Urgencies Seriously Threatening to Provoke Irreversible Harm.

In other words, they, indirectly but Obviously, Warn that they Might Soon take relevant "Interim" Decisions asap, withOut having to Wait until a Final Judgement, probably Also in such Cases of Compulsory Imposal of a few Controversial "Vaccines" Affecting the Human Genome, (while Still Excluding all the Others)...

Inter alia, this Might become Necessary Also because of an Astonishing Spread of "Hate Speech", recently, against Dissidents, (Scandalously Including often Even Public Officials fuelling Intolerance), which can Obviously Undermine elementary Human Solidarity, pushing towards Dangerous Hate even inside Socio-Medical and/or Public Hospital areas, considerably Aggravating Risks against Human Health and Lives.

 

 

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The official presentation of a "Program" respecting People's choices voted in the June 7, 2009 EU Elections, to be debated in EU Council and EU Parliament during its 1st Session on July in Strasbourg, is the No 1 Priority, according to Democratic principles, for the Franco-German axis, said the main winners at the ballot box, French President Nicolas Sarkozy and German Chancellor Angie Merkel.

They stressed  that the New EU Commission's President must have a "Program" in favor of an EU which "protects" its Citizens, regulates financial markets and aims at a "Political" Europe" : a wording they have used as incompatible with Turkey's controversial EU bid.

They also declared ready for a "political" endorsment of "Mr. Barroso's candidacy" in June's EU Council, considering that an official decision would have to be made after EU Parliament's debates and votes, possibly from next month (July), with the legally necessary final acceptance shortly after Lisbon Treaty's entry into force, hoped for September or October.


- "A Program, and Mr. Barroso" : This resumes, in substance, the anouncements made by Sarkozy and Merkel, on the question of current EU Commission's President, Barroso's declared wish to succeed to himself for a second mandate, to be extended during the following 5 years.

 In their 1st meeting after EU Elections, they observed that "the Franco-German axis counted in European Elections' campaign... But, we both keep a realistic view : We saw the number of those who abstained, and we must absolutely give them an answer. We also see the disilusionment of an important number of Europeans vis a vis Europe, and we are aware of the responsibilities we have".

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 - The "Duty" of the new EU Commission's President, after June 7, 2009 EU Elections' result, "is to act for a Europe which protects the Europeans, to commit himself into working for a better Regulation of Financial transactions, ... and to have a Political will for Europe", underlined Sarkozy.

Therefore, "we have asked M. Barroso... to clarify, to officialy present the intentions he has", he anounced.

- "We want to speak also about the Programme", explained Merkel.

- "It's important that for the next EU Parliament's mandate (2009-2014) we take the right Decisions for Europe.  Obviously on Persons, but mainly Decisions on Issues", she stressed.

- "It's not simply a question of a Person, it's also a question of a Programme". We are "really asking Mr. Barroso to commit himself on a Program, and on Principles, on Values", Sarkozy added.

EU President-in-office, Czech Prime Minister Jan Fischer, accepted the Franco-German stance :

- "Barroso must present his Programme. The Czech Presidency agrees with that", Fischer reportedly said later, after meeting Sarkozy.

But Press reports from Brussels claimed that Barroso had preferred to be officially appointed by EU Council since June, (i.e. next week), "because this was implied by the current Treaty of Nice, according to him", and considered any delay until the possible ratification of the new, Lisbon Treaty on September/October, as "undemocratic".

- "At any case, independently of what Germany and France ask, it's also EU Parliament's wish". "We shall propose Mr Barroso's candidacy... But even in the framework of Nice Treaty, EU Parliament has to be associated in this Decision", the French President observed.

If this is correctly done, then "we support Mr. Barroso's candidature", and "if the (EU) Parliament agrees, we might ratify this decision since July", (i.e. next month), they both said.

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- "France and Germany support Baroso's candidacy, But we want to speak also on the Program. We believe that this Program should be established in close cooperation with EU Parliament, and that's why we have followed an appropriate way", said Merkel.  - If EU Parliament wants, this election can take place on July,  but this must be done in full agreement.

- "We shall support Mr. Barroso's candidacy, without doubt", said Sarkozy. "But we have asked from Mr. Barroso, as I told him yesterday, to put into detail.. his intentions, at the eve of his 2nd mandate, if the situation avails itself.


    France and Germany "don't want to take an Official Legal Decision by writting" during "the next (EU) Council" (on June 18-19), declared Sarkozy.  Because they prefer, at this stage, only "a Political decision" on June, "so that we (EU Council) can work together with EU Parliament", which starts to meet only Next Month, since July in Srasbourg, "leaving a Legal decision by writting for later".

    - "If the Conditions are fuillfiled in EU Parliament, we (EU Council) are ready to give the agreement and make it offficial", said Merkel

    - "But, now we are working in the base of Nice Treaty. If tommorow we want to work in the spirit of Lisbon Treaty, we have to find a proper way", she added.

    - "Of course it's Legally complicated, because we are going to make a Political proposal to the forthcoming Council, for an EU Commission's President, on the basis of Nice Treaty : So, we (EU Council) will not appoint the Commissioners. Only the President.  If EU Parliament agrees, it could endorse this position on July", explained Sarkozy.

    But, on Autumn, "if Ireland ratifies Lisbon Treaty, there will be, at any case, a 2nd Decision, to appoint the Commission's President, this time on the basis of Lisbon treaty, and then, we, the EU Member States, would have to appoint (also) the EU Commissioners", he added.

    As for the precise Timing :  - "Everything is suspended until the Irish vote... Now, we must all make everything possible to help Ireland to say "Yes"" to Lisbon Treaty... The Irish Referendum, ..will take place either on September or on October. It's a Question which depends on the Irish. And,  then, we shall have the Choice of the Candidates for the permanent Institutions of Europe".

    However, "if Ireland says No, we, French and Germans, have to assume our responsibilities, and we'll do so", he concluded.

    But British and Swedish governments were reportedly eager to have a final EU Council decision on Barroso since this month, on June's European Council. While the other EU Member Countries are divided, several of them preferring to wait until EU Parliament pronounces itself, on July, and/or until Lisbon Treaty might be ratified by Ireland at the beginning of the Autumn. Barroso's current mandate ends on November.

    There are also various, contradictory and/or unpredictable reactions inside EU Parliament vis a vis Barroso's wish to continue a 2nd mandate, because many MEPs are openly or secretly opposed, reluctant, or hesitating.

    In the biggest EU Countries, as France and Germany, EU Citizens voted on June 2009 EU Elections for a renovated, non-technocratic but Political Europe which cares for its Citizens, with an Identity, Values and Borders, declared incompatible with Turkey's controversial EU bid, by mainstream, pro-European Governing Parties. Similar choices were also supported in several other small or medium EU Countries.

    On the contrary, whenever, in other Countries, Governing and other mainstream Parties didn't make these choices or eluded them, EU Citizens massively voted for euro-Sceptics whenever they were the only ones to to promise anti-bureacratic change and oppose Turkey's demand to enter into the EU, (f.ex. in the UK, Netherlands, etc).

    It's seems to be an Open Question whether Sarkozy and Merkel's conditions will be really accepted by Barroso, who was appointed on 2004 in a different political context, (with Socialist Prime Ministers in Germany, France, etc), had rejected in the Past the idea of EU becoming "equal to the USA" as "ridiculous", and pushed for Turkey's contoversial EU bid, trying to "soften" or contain the changes desired by the People who voted for Merkel and Sarkozy with another policy vis a vis Turkey on 2005 in Germany and on 2007 in France, as they did all over Europe on 2009.

    In addition to many EPP Governments, it's 3 remaining Socialist Prime Ministers : Gordon Brown in the UK, Zapatero in Spain, and Socrates in Prortugal, who support Barroso, as well as Liberal Swedish Prime Minister Reinfeldt. But their Parties lost the June 2009 EU Elections.

    Questioned whether there was still "Time" for "other" possible "Candidates", Sarkozy and Merkel did not deny, nor made any comment on that, but simply said that "it's not for us to make publicity for any candidates. We anounced our choice ("A Program, and Mr. Barroso"). But we respect any other candidate".

    Among various other names cited are former Belgian Prime Minister Verhofstadt, former UNO's Human Rights Commissioner Mary Robinson of Ireland, Italian former EU Commission's vice-President Monti, etc. Meanwhile, Luxembourg's PM Juncker, (who had been unanimously accepted by EU Council for EU Commission's Presidency on 2004, but refused), announced his intention to resign from "EuroGroup"'s Chair. Thus, he might be available for another Top EU job.

    As "EuroFora"'s "opinion" said (See publication dated 9/6/09) : - "If the current candidates (i.e. Barroso, etc) to the Top EU jobs promise and guarantee to respect People's democratic choices, then, it's OK".

"Otherwise, Europe must find new candidates, really motivated and able to implement these democratic choices of the People."

    Because, "in Democracy, the forthcoming choices for EU's Top Jobs,...should be made according to EU Citizens' Votes in June 7, 2009 European Elections, and main EU Governments' strategic policies".
        

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