CFE/EcoSoc+Digit.Panel/Day-1: EF raises Question of Citizens' Freedom to Change Agenda
*Strasbourg/EU Parliament/Angelo Marcopolo/- Right from the very Beginning of the 1st Attempt in Europe's History to actively Associate Citizens in Shaping its Future, (See: http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/eppressheadtoefoncitizenspanels.html, etc), while Other Journalists repeated Queries about the Political Views' Fairness in the Selection of Participants by a Private Company of alleged Experts, (as some EU Politicians had Already done), instead, "Eurofora" Focused on a "Technical" but Crucial critical Question about Whether they Really had a Fair Possibility, in real Practice, to make notable Changes in the Scheduled Agenda of that unique process, and/or Add Key Input (i.e. f.ex. Backing certains Key Proposals, perhaps Neglected by some "Experts"), or not.
An Obvious Problem was the Fact that this First "Citizens' Panel", (out of 4 in Total), Focused on Economic and Social Issues, including Education, Culture and Sport, as well as Digitalisation, had a so "Tight" Draft Daily Programme, during 3 Crucial Days, (17-19/9/2021), that it appeared, a priori, Practicaly very Difficult, if not Impossible, for them, to Seriously Examine all key Facts, Notice eventual Ommissions or other Errors, Discuss, Revendicate, and Obtain any Important Change...
Indeed, f.ex., inter alia, the 1st and 3rd Days were Cut in a Half, (i.e. Only Afternoon or Morning, respectively), the 2nd (apparently the Most Serious Working Day) was Reduced for 1/3 by Social Events and various Invitations, Added to the Fact that the 1st Day (Friday) was practicaly consumed into Welcoming, Meeting, and Organisation matters, while almost All the Rest was Ostensibly Full of Partial or even Total Interventions by Various Other Actors : "Moderators", "Experts", "Facilitators", MEPs, etc, accompagnied Also by a numerous (and apparently Hard-Working) Secretariat or "NGOs" from Brussels, etc, so that the mainly InExperienced 200 Citizens, from Dispersed Origins, most of whom didn't even know where were located EU Parliament's basic Meeting Places inside a Huge Building, inevitably Risked to feel Lost amidst Only ...5, 10 or 15 Minutes' Time-Slots often assigned by the Draft Programme for Debating and Making Hard Choices even at some Thorny and Complicated Issues... A fotiori when Only "Plenary" Debates were Accessible to Journalists and the Public via EBS), while, on the Contrary, crucial "WorkShop" Meetings between Participant Citizens were kept Closed, (Opposite to what happens with MEPs' "Committee" Debates, at least Since "Eurofora" succesfuly Suggested an Internet Direct Links, when we had Met with then New EU Parliament's President Buzek, in the Past, (See: ..,, etc).
In Addition, as some among the Organizers reminded to "Eurofora", it's, also, a well known Fact that there had Not been a Full Unanimity, inside all EU Parts, for Trying to give a Say to Citizens, (Even if a Majority really Believed that EU should and could Associate Citizens in a Modern and more Democratic Decision-Making process, if it really Wanted a more Ingrated and Stronger Europe in the World : See, already, inter alia, f.ex., also from Strasourg's area Franco-Germann core Couple of Daul and Schaüble at the CoE, earlier, etc). - "But you Remember that, Already Shortly before that Virus, such a Project Risked to be pacticaly going towards a Dead End", an EU Parliament's staff membe Rihtfully Reminded to "Eurofora". So that it's Not Excluded a priori that Some might, perhaps, even, be Secretly Glad if Any such Modern EU Democracy potential Failed, by putting Spokes in EU's Wheels...
This was in Bright Contrast particularly with People apparently Motivated by a Real pro-European Aspiration, including, f.ex. a Collegue Journalist who came to Strasbourg by Air-Flight from Tallin, and/or a Young Lady, Citizen-Participant, who "Eurofora" shaw Working with a Computer, even Alone, until Late Evening, while Most Others were Eating at the Restaurant or Dispersed in various Social Events' Invitations, an Aged but Experienced "Expert" eager to Stimulate an Ambitious pro-European Ambiance, or Press Attaché Kyriakos Closides claiming that Participant-Citizens "did Not Quarell, among them, But, on the Contrary, strived to Find Common Ground for real European Solutions, (etc). Mylti-Active Head Press Attaché Sanne De Ryck, who strived to Help Press Contacts in general, while Admitting that Many Plenary Events were, in fact, "Experts"-driven, nevertheless, pointed at Citizens' "Workshops" and/or "Breaks", for Journalists' INTWs, particularly Later-on, (righfully : See ..., etc UPDATED).
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=> EU competent Officials' feeling on the above-mentioned "Eurofora"s Query, Today, appeared to be a somewhat "Balanced" one : Essentialy, they too felt that, Indeed, there was "a Challenge" here, since there was a Limited Time, but for Broad Issues, and an Equilibrium to Find between Input from the Web (i.e. the rest of 500 Millions of European People), Experts, etc, while Also Letting Participants Free to Reflect, Propose, etc., since they should have some Time to reach their own Conclusions, as part of this Process' added Value...
(Meanwile, concerning at least the Fact that Participant Citizens are really Eager to Speak and Exchange with Each-Other around the CoFoE's Issues, including among themselves, this became Immediately Obvious when, Earlier this 1st Day at the Plenary, the Organizers Allowed them to "Know Each Other" during ... Ten (10) Minutes, as an "Eurofora"'s relevant Photo clearly indicates)...
In consequence, they Claimed Both that, in order to be Politicaly Efficient, this Conference's Approach would strive to "Narrow-down" the Number and Scope of Various Questions raised here, and that at any case, the 200 or 800 Participant Citizens, as well as All Other EU's 500 Miliions Citizens, would have Opportunities to UpDate and/or Complete their Queries, (using Various Practical Astuces), during the Rest of the Time Available, (particularly during the Next 2 Panels and/or Following "Interim Reports", due on October + November), until Before the Conference on Europe's Future concludes on Early 2022...
A Preference for "Narrowing down" Issues to Debate, was Also Backed by Brussels-based NGO "European Policy Center"'s envoy, Johannes Greubel, speaking to "Eurofora" Later-on, under Pretext that this would Provoke Sharper Reactions from Participants, in general.
However, there was Not Yet any Crystal-clear Answer to the Crucial, in real Practice, Question, whether the Next 2 Editions of the "Interim Reports" on the various "Proposals" made by EU Citizens at the Website Platform of the Conference for the Future of Europe during the Forthcoming few Months might be Entirely UpDated, i.e. Including Also several interesting Proposals that had Not Been Spoted yet, Nor Cited, or not even Made Earlier, as "Eurofora" suggested...
Indeed, to judge, f.ex., by the 1st "Interim Report" on the CoFoE, just Published on September 15, and due to cover the previous Period of April-August 2021 only, as EU Parliament's Chief Negociator, MEP Guy Verhofstadt, had announced on 14/9/2021, (See : http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/eppressheadtoefoncitizenspanels.html + ..., etc), in Fact, several Key, Originl Proposals made by Registered EU Citizens at the Official Website Platfotm of the Conference, were, Surprizingly, Not even Mentioned in that Report, while, on the Contary, a lot of Other, sometimes Less Relevant, Repetitive, Superficial, or even of Doubtful Elligibility, are uselessly occupying Many Pages of that "Report", giving a Missleading and Troncated Image of the Real Situation about EU Citizens' pertinent Proposals, so that it Risks to Push towards Errors, UnJustified Ommissions, Arbitrary Rejections, Loss of Rare Opportunities to Efficiently Settle Issues, Legitimate Frustrations, and a Stern Image of European People's Capacity to Imagine and Propose Interesting Solutions...
And such Curious Shortcomings are Obvious Even at the Notoriously Most Important and Popular segment of this Conference on Europe's Future : That which concerns European DEMOCRACY, as Verhofstadt observed ! Indeed, you can Find in that "1st Interim Report", a lot of clumsy Suggestions Favoring some "Lobbies" or Oligarchies, possibly More Dangerous than the Already Existing ones, (as several Observers pointed already out, at Critical Comments made there), or, for the Rest, Only a Repetitive Litany of Countless ...Remakes of the Notorious "Citizens' Initiative", in one way or another, Again and Again..., while, at the Same Time, some really New and Original Ideas, (Even if they might have been Welcomed by Heads of State/Government, EU Parliament's President, Top Key MEPs, etc) are Curiously 100% Ommitted, Hidden and Muzzled !
But, thus, a great Part or all the Good Work done by Honest, Active and Creative EU Parliament's and Other Staff, as well as several Fresh Ideas, sincere EU Aspirations, Useful Proposals, by Motivated European People, Risks to be Undermined and Lost, at an Obviously Crucial Juncture for possible and Necessary Developments able to Boost Europe's Present and foreseable Future, in a Hard World... All EU Citizens' Potential must be saveguarded and developed according to its real value, without any irresponsible abuse.
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* Στρασβούργο/ΑΚΜ/+30 Σεπτεμβρίου 2008/-
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Σταθερός σε θέσεις αρχών Διεθνούς Δικαίου κι Ανθρωπίνων Δικαιωμάτων, εκφράζοντας ταυτόχρονα έντονη θέληση για επανένωση της Κύπρου κι ειλικρινή συμφιλίωση όλου του Λαού της, ΕΚων και ΤΚων, αλλά και συνεχώς αντιμέτωπος με πολυσχιδείς συγκεκριμένες συνέπειες της Τουρκικής αδιαλλαξίας κυριως για τα Κατοχικά στρατεύματα εμφανίστηκε ο Πρόεδρος Χριστόφιας στην ΚΣΣΕ, μετά από λόγο του στην Ολομέλεια κι απαντήσεις σ ερωτήσεις ευρωβουλευτών, όπως φάνηκε κι απ όσα δήλωσε κατόπιν σ απάντηση ερωτήσεών μας :
- "Δεν δέχομαι κόκκκνες γραμμές" για διατηρηση Τουρκικών Στρατευματων κι "εγγυήσεων" στην Κύπρο στο μέλλον, εφόσον κι οπως είδαμε μέχρι τώρα, τις μονομερεις εγγυήσεις της Συνθήκης του Λονδίνου τις εκμεταλλεύτηκε η Τουρκία για να εισβάλει στην Κύπρο όπου διατηρεί κατοχικό στρατό πάνω από 30 χρόνια μετά την αποκατάσταση της δημοκρατικής τάξης αφ ότου επανήλθε ο Μακάριος, τόνισε ο Προεδρος Χριστόφιας, όσον αφορά την άρνηση της Τουρκικής πλευράς να συζητήσει καν αρση Στρατιωτικής "εγγύησης" και κηδεμονίας Αγκυρας. Ελπίζω η Τουρκια ν αρχίσει να σκέπτεται και την Ασφάλεια του Κυπριακου Λαού, ΕΚων και ΤΚων, πρόσθεσε,
Συπληρώνοντας δε απάντησή του σ ερώτηση Σ για την πρόσφατη προβολή Διεθνών Ειρηνευτικών Δυνάμεων ΟΗΕ απ τον Γάλλο Πρόεδρο Σαρκόζη, προεδρεύοντα της ΕΕ, με συμμετοχη ΓΓ ΟΗΕ Μπαν Κι Μοον κι εκπροσώπων δυνάμεων ΟΗΕ σε Κύπρο, Λίβανοι και Μέση Ανατολή στη Συνάντηση Αρχηγών Κρατών Μεσογείου τον Ιούλιο στο Παρίσι, πρόσθεσε ότι η Κύπρος ειναι ευγνώμων στον ΟΗΕ και την αναγκαια ειρηνευτική συμβολη του, αλλ ελπίζει να βρεί λύση στο Κυπριακό που θ απαλλάξει ΕΕ, ΣτΕ κι ΟΗΕ απ την ανάγκη ν ασχολειται πάντα με την Κύπρο ΅: Οι ΕΚοι κι οι ΤΚοι έχουν εμπειρία τόσων τραγωδιών αλλά κι ειρηνικής συνύπαρξης που πιστεύω ότι είναι αρκετά ώριμοι για ν αναλάβουν οι ίδιοι, ΕΚοι και ΤΚοι μαζ'ι, την προστασία της κοινής πατριδας μας, κατέληξε.
Ο Πρόεδρος Χριστόφιας προτίμησε, σ άλλη απάντηση του σ ερώτηση της Σ, να τονίσει οτι η ΚΣΣΕ και το ΣτΕ γενικότερα, με το ΕΔΑΔ, μπορεί και πρέπει να παίξει μεγάλο ρόλο και στο Κυπριακό για τον σεβασμο, σε κοινό όφελος ΕΚων και ΤΚωνμ τωβν Ανθρωπίνων Δικαιωμάτων και του Διεθνοούς Δικαίου, που είναι οι κύριοι τομείς αρμοδιότητάς του, στους οποίους προσβλέπουν κι εκατομύρια Ευρωπαίων πολιτών.
Αλλά τα Τουρκικά Κατοχικά Στρατεύματα ξαναβρέθηκαν αντιμέτωπα και με πολλές άλλες παρατηρήσεις του Προέδρου Χριστόφια, πχ, για τα λιμάνια των Κατεχομενων, για την ολοκλήρωση της συμφωνίας για τη οδο Λήδρα, για τη δυνατότητα ανοίγματος της Αμμοχώστου σ ΕΚους και ΤΚους μ επάνοδο προσφύγων και κοινή διαχείριση διεθνών ανταλλαγών, κπα, ακόμα και σ επάνοδο προσφύγων :
- Στο παρελθόν ΤΚοι είχαν μάταια παρακαλεσει τον Τουρκικό Στρατό ν άρει απαγόρευση να ξαναδώ το οικογενειακό μου σπίτι στην κατεχόμενη περιοχή Κυρήνειας, που είχε κηρυχθεί στρατιωτική περιοχή Μετά από πολλά ΟΧΙ, τελικά μπόρεσα τουλάχιστοιν να περάσω από μια δίοδο, αλλά λυπήθηκ όταν είδα το χωριό μισοκατεστραμένο, αγνώριστο, σπίτια κατηλημένα κπα. Αλλά, αν χρειαζόταν για ειρηνική επανένωση, της Κύπρου, θα ήμουν έτοιμος να επιστρέψω, έστω και κάτω από ΤΚή Διοίκηση, κατέληξε, σ απάντηση ξένου δημοσιθογράφου, υπερασπίζοιντας το δικαίωμα προσφύγων για ελεύθερη επιλογή επιστροφής, αποζημίωσης ή άνταλλαγής σπιτιών και περιουσιών τους χωρίς εξαναγκασμό.
Ελπίζω αύριο ο κ, Ταλάτ να θυμηθεί τις κοινές θέσεις που είχαμε μαζί εδώ και 10 χρόνια, τώρα που η Κύπρος χρειάζεται να ξαναβρέι κοινή γλώσσα που είναι το κοινο συμφέρον του λαο'υ της, Εκων και Τκων, κατέληξε ο Πρόεδρος Χριστόφιας, ανακοινώνοντας δε ότι μπορεί και να τις καταθέσει στις συνομιλιες για το Κυπριακό...