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Biden=Minority in Net Electors, Needs Swing States Fraud=>Lies in Clumsy Attempt to Hide Revelations

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Monday, 14 December 2020

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*Strasbourg/Angelo Marcopolo/(Partly UpDated)- A Surrealist Climate of Astonishingly Chilling Big Lies  (See Facts Infra) marked Biden's Official Speech Today, (called "Blunt" by Pro-Dems "CNN"), after the Formality of a Minority of Real Electors, added to an "Extra" of Notoriously Fake Electors due to Blatant Fraud and Gross Irregularities in 6 small "Swing" States, Bowed to him in a "Queen's Theater" (sic !) at Delaware, while, on the Contrary, Real "Alternative" Electors from those Same "Swing" States, were Voting for Trump, Today, (as f.ex. in Pennsylvania's "Forum Auditorium", Georgia's 'State Capitol", etc), as Dems' Desperate Attempts to Hide Spreading Revelations BackFire by their blatant Contradiction to Real Facts, since Official Public Hearings, Popular Mass Protests, Legal Complaints, Experts' Findings, WhistleBowers' and EyeWitnesses' Revelations on Vote Fraud+, Accumulated Further, Despite Establishment's Medias' and Big Tech Networks' Scandalous Medieval Censorship, (reminiscent of a 3rd World Anti-Democratic "Banana-Republic"), more and more Bypassed by an American People with alive Fighting Spirit.

That "Alternative Electors" move, (to which was Added, Today,, Also a 7th State : "New Mexico"), was reportedly Inspired by an Equivalent Precedent of John Kennedy versus Nixon, Back on 1960 on Hawai, (when Congress Afterwards Counted them Officialy, indeed), as, possibly, Trump v. Biden on 2020 in the Swing States,

    while RDV is taken, Now, for until 20 January 2021, (and particularly when the US Congress is due to make the Officialy Announcement, according to the US Constitution, on this Controversial Election.  on Jan. 6).

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    - Indeed, Biden reportedly has Only a Minority of 233 Electors, (i.e. Lacks of at least + 37 More Electors that he Should Find and ensure in order to Hope to simply Reach the 270 Threshold, i.e. the Minimum Necessary in order to become President),

    => and, as a Consequence, he Desperately Needs most, if not all of the 73 Electors from 6 "Swing" States (Minesota, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Nevada and Arizona), where the Fraud/Gross Irregularites' Controversy broke out.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             

    In Comparison, Nowadays, in this 2020 Controversial US Presidential Election, Trump was attributed 232 Electors in Addition to Initialy Winning almost in All "Swing" States up and until to the Electoral Night of November 3, (i.e., Largely Bypassing the 270 Electors Threshhold with about 305 Electors), Before Dems practicaly Steal the Vote - Suddenly, in Early Morning, between 4 and 6 am - by Throwing some Huge Packets of "Mail-in" Ballots AbNormally Full of pro-Biden's unchecked "Votes" (from ...80% up to 90% !), Out of any OverSight by Indepedent Observers Hindered to Watch, in Addition to Controversial "Dominion" Electronic Machines' Incidents, etc).

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 - "I earned 306 Electoral votes (on 2020)... Same number of electoral votes Donald Trump and Mike Pence received in 2016", Biden boasted,

    Obviously ...Forgeting the Fact that His Alleged great "Electoral Votes" are, Nowadays, Strongly Denounced for Blatant, Wide-Spread Fraud and Gross Irregularities, (while, on the Contrary, those of Trump Never did, Being Always Universaly Recognized)...

+ And, apparently Day-Dreaming, Biden Asked to "Respect ...Even ....(Electoral) Results Hard to Accept", Claiming that it would be an "Obligation", in order to "Work Together", Urging "to Turn the Page, as We (Dems) have Done" in the Past, according to His Claims, by "giv(ing) each Other a chance to Lower the Temperature", and "setting the Example, for the World (sic !), for a Peaceful Transition of Power", as he Boasted for his 2016 Barack Hussein Obama - Don Trump, Extremely "Bumpy" and particularly Long Transition of 2016-2019 (i.e. Until Mr. Mueller's Witch-Hunting against President Trump, personaly, was Obliged to Stop)...

    >>> But, on These Points, Biden Obviously "Forgot" - or rather Ommitted - Among Others, Also the very Harsh Way in which, in the Past, Both Himself and Barack Hussein Obama, Back on 2016-2017+, had Heavily ...Spied on Trump and his Team Even Before he was Elected, and, Immediately Afterwards, Started to Launch pityless Persecutions Against his Campaign Manager Manafort, his Security Adviser General Flynn, his Lawyer Cohen, even his Fans as Papadopoulos, etc., Accusing them of Various Pretexts, Throwing them to the Courts, and Condemning them to Jail (sic !), while, at the same Time, in Parallel, President Trump was, Notoriously, Persecuted Himself by "Impeachment" Procedures, Slandered, Pressured, and Threatenend during several Years, (Even on Crucial Days and Hours of Exceptionaly Important, Top Level International Diplomacy Meetings, particularly Decisive for World Peace, and/or Economic Development, etc), until, Finaly, it Became Obvious that Such Relentless and Brutal "Witch-Hunting" was, in Fact, a Scandal withOut Any real Reason to exist, so that it Had to be Droped, Years Later, After Terrible Sufferings for Many People, and an Awful Waste, Both for the USA and the World !

=> If Mr Biden insisted, Obviously, Something Similar Could Easily be Triggered, Also Nowadays, But This Time Against Him, Given All those, mostly Well-Known, Heavy Suspicions of Big Financial and Political Corruption related to Various Foreign States and Tragic Bloody Conflicts (f.ex. in Ukraine, etc), or potentialy Dangerous Power-Games, (f.ex. reportedly related to China, etc),   particularly Involving Notoriously his Son, Hunter, in Addition to His Own and/or Some in his Team's most probable Responsibilities in the Present Big Scandal of apparently Wide-Spread Electoral Fraud and/or related Scandalous, Gross Irregularities in the Latest, 2020 US Presidential Election, which Seriously Undermined the Credibility of the Country's Institutions, Blatantly Depriving them of the Trust of the American People, as many recent Polls Already prove, and Picturing the USA in the Eyes of All the International Community, as If it had Fallen to the level of a Corrupted Outcast Country, whose Establishment was Unable to Fight against Corruption and Electoral Fraud, Desperately Attempting to Hide it, Systematicaly Censoring the Truth, and Muzzling Critics, Instead of Seriously Investigating and Rapidly and Efficiently Eradicating on Time such Anti-Democratic Horrors, Before they Provoke Irremediable Big Harm to All Affected People and Institutions, (Comp. Supra and Infra)...

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- Biden also Claimed that 2020 Election Officials and Volunteers, Both Republicans and Dems, "Knew the Elections they OverSaw (sic !) were Honest, Free and Fair", as "They Saw it with Their own Eyes" (re-sic !!),

    Blatantly Ommitting the Notorious Fact that Thousands of Independent Republican Electoral Observers have Bitterly Denounced a Blatant Lack of Transparency, due to Many Scandalous Discriminations, illtreatments, Obstacles, Hindrances, even Brutal Expulsions, etc., added to Excessive Distances, Often Obliged to use ...Binoculars, Ask Help from the Courts, or being Blocked to Watch Votes' Counting, by Pizza-Boxes, Cardboards, etc. to Cover the Windows of Adjacent Rooms, (etc, etc+), as Many Victims, EyeWitnesses, Signed Affidavits, Public Hearings, Press Conferences, Lawsuits, etc., have Repeatedly Attested until now, Starting by a landmark 1st Key Press Conference on the spot at Pennsylvania, with may Victims and Lawyers, inclluding Guliani, etc. as Early as Since November 7, (when Establishment's Scandalously hasted to slyly Cover Up and silence those First Denonciations by, Paradoxicaly, Chosing that very Same Day, and Even, Precisely, that Same Hour and Minutes (sic !), in order to Transmit, Instead, ...Only Their own, Subjective View Claiming that Biden would have "Won" this Rigged Vote, i.e. a Catch-All Statement which could have been Published at Any Other Time....

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- According to Biden, “in America, when Qestions are Raised about the Legitimacy of any Election, those questions are resolved through a Legal Process. And that is precisely what Happened Here. The Trump campaign brought dozens and dozens and dozens of Legal Challenges to test the Results. They were Heard (sic !). And they were Found to be without Merit (re-sic !!)”, as he Erroneously Claimed...

>>> In Fact, Trump team's Legal Complaints against Widespread Fraud/Gross Irregularities in the 2020 US Presidential Election at the 6 "Swing" States, were Never "Heard", Neither Judged, Yet, on the "Merits", by Any Senior Court in the Country, (Neither the Federal Supreme Court, Nor the States'), Until Now !          

The Reality is that, The Most Important among them, were Not Even Launched Yet, (f.ex. a General, Comprehensive Lawsuit on All kinds of Fraud/Irregularities abused by Dems éthroughout the 6 "Swing" States in the 2020 US Presidential Election).

Others were Briefly Dropped, withOut being Examined, Neither Hearing the Evidence, Nor Discussing on Merits at all, But Only Because of Strictly Formal Pretexts Just about Procedure, Time Deadlines, etc...

Only a Few, Particular cases, on Inferior, Local Courts, with a Barack Hussein Obama-Appointed Judge, were, at the Last Minute, said to be considered "on the Merits", about some, comparatively, Tiny, Local matters, (f.ex., Certain concrete Fraud/Irregularities in 1 or 2 Counties of a "Swing" State Alone), were (Abusively) Said to be rejected "on Merit", f.ex. by by 1 Local Judge so Fanaticaly Hostile to President Trump, that she was Limited into openly and grossly Slandering his Lawyer to be ..."RACIST" (sic !), Only Because he had Found Gross Fraud/Irregularities Problems in 2 Counties which, by a Coincidence, would be Reportedly Inhabited mainly by some "Minorities", as that Obama-Appointed Local "Judge" abusively Accused a Trump's Legal Representative, (himself, by Coincidence, also a Member of Greek-American Minority !)...

+ In Addition, Moreover in Parallel, almost All Establishment's Medias, Scandalously and Anti-Deontologically, Never Presented, Nor Discussed, Not Even the Slightest, Concrete Electoral Fraud/Irregularity Issue Raised on 2020, Biefly Dismissing All President Trump's Legal Complaints, Only by Routinely Repeating, Always, (as a Tape-Recorder), their "Erzats" Claim that they would, allegedly, be All, 100%, ..."Baseless", totaly "UnProven", entirely "UnSubstantiated", or even "already DeBunked" (sic !) Complaints, (withOut Ever Daring Cite Any, Not even the Slightest, Fact or Argument against a Growing Number of Many Facts and Arguments presented by Trump), Systematicaly Hidding, thus, the Truth to the American People.  

=> On the Contrary, it's an Historic Paradox and Enigma, in this very Serious Controversy about WideSpread Fraud/Gross irregularities in 6 "Swing" States at an US Presidential Election, Raisong several Key Issues concerning the US Federal Constitution, that, at least Until Now, Not Even 1 Trump's Legal Complaint did Not Yet Reach, and was Not Discussed yet, at USA's Federal Supreme Court, (whose Original Jurisdiction is, However, Mainly Focused on Such kind of Issues, and which had, on the Contrary, thoroughly and in Depth Examined and Discussed, Back on 2000, a Previous Such Kind of Electoral Complaint, Notoriously lodged, Then, by former US-vice President Gore (a Dems' "Socialist/Liberal"), against former Governor GWBush, (a Republican), in a Months-Long Affair, precisely about Votes' Counting and their Certain or "Questionable" Legality... (Comp.: http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/usasupremecourtandvotefraud.html, etc).  

- Why Not at all (Yet) Now (on 2020) ?

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 + Biden also Claimed that "an Unanimous (sic !) Supreme Court" would have "Rejected" (re-sic !!) a "Texas'" Legal Complaint againt Big Irregularities at 6 Swing States' Controversial Votes. Rarely a so Brief Sentence had more than 4 Blatant Flaws :

(1) In Fact, the relevant SCOTUS' brief Ruling (1 Paragraph !) was NOT "Unanimous" at all, since, at least vice-Presidebt Thomas and Experienced Justice Alito notoriously Opposed that, and even Published a "Dissending opinion" against it...

 (2) Moreover, SCOTUS did NOT "Reject" the Irregularities' targetting Complaint, (a Key point of Substance), But Only Contested that Texas might have "proved ....an Interest" into how the Swing States Organised the Elections in Their Areas, i.e. a Purely Procedural point, (+ anOther Ruling, on a case brought by a Citizen,at Concerned Only a Time Deadline..), withOut pronouncing itself on the Substance at all...

(3) That Legal Complait wasN't Just made by "Texas" Alone, But, on the Contrary, it was Supported Even by 18 More States, (in fact 19 => 20 in All), since Alasca said that it Wanted to Join the Group, But its AG was Hindered by a too Short Time Deadline. Republican States are a Majority in USA's Federation.

(4) Last, but not least, several Observers Denounced previous "Pressure" and Blackmail by Biden against the Supreme Court, Threatening it by "Packing" with Liberals/"Socialists" and making it an irrelevant thing of the Past, according to an alleged "Plan", that he had Since Before this Controversial Election, But notoriously Hidden from the People When they Voted !

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- Today, Biden went Even Further, by Claiming, f.ex., that Some partial and superficial "ReCounts" in certain Counties at Georgia or Wisconsin Alone, (None in the 5 Other "Swing" States, yet), would, Allegedly, confort His Point.

>>> But, in Fact, None of those Limited, Local so-called "Re-Counts" did Not Yet really Check f.ex., at least the Signatures on the Notoriously Too Numerous and Suspect "Mail-In", Late, and/or Various Other "Absentees" Votes, Neither Other Denounced Discrepancies of Most Controversial Votes at the 6 "Swing" States, Despite Even relevant Promises (given by some Governing Authorities), practicaly Refusing such Clear Demands by President Trump's side, (who has Warned that, in Fact, Any Real "Re-Count" should even be "Forensic", in order to have a Real Chance to Find the Truth, Hidden by Fraud).

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- However, Biden's obviously Baseless and Unsubstantiated, already Debunked, False Claims, (to use his Side's usual Vocabulary : Comp. Supra), Advanced even Further Today : He went as Far as to pretend that his Alleged "Margins" of Votes in "Swing" States would, according to him, also Show his so-called "Victory" (sic !)...

>>> However, Unfortunately for him, it's an UnContested Fact that, (Even by Counting Also a lot of Questionable Legality, Strongly Contested "Votes", Notoriously Denounced for "Fraud"/Gross Irregularities : Comp. Supra), on the Contrary, that Biden's "Margin" is Extremely Small, Tiny, and Limited to Only 1 or 2% (once, but largely Contested), sometimes (in the Most Important of those States) Even Down to ...0,2 or 0,3% (Despite the Fraud+) !

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+ Meanwhile, Nevertheless, Even More Clear Factual Indications of Electoral Fraud/Gross Irregularities appear to Continue to Emerge, from Various Converging Events :

- Among Other relevant Anti-Fraud Developments, f.ex., a Court Authorized, for the 1st Time, to Publish the Results of a "Forensic" Investigation in Muchigan, where Experts Found that Controversial "Dominion" Electronic Machines had been Set in a way leading Up to ...68% of "Errors" in Counting Vote Ballots, so that, Afterwards, Interventions in order to "Rectify" that, Could Alter Many Thousands of Votes casted ! Afterwards, it's Also in Nevada that a "70% Error Rate" was reportedly Found, Awaiting that of "Arizona ...Soon".

+ In Parallel, USA's Federal Senate held, also for the 1st Time, a Public Hearing, at Washington DC, on the 2020 US Presidential Election's Fraud/Irregularities' Controversy, which Soon Became a Top, Popular "Trend" at the Internet, Attracting a Record-High of Web Readers,

and During which, inter alia, f.ex., the Well Known Senator Rand Paul Strongly Denounced that this "Election was, in Many Ways, Stolen", and that "Courts Never Looked at the Facts. ...they stayed Out of it by finding an Excuse", (Comp. Supra),

while an Expert Attorney Jesse Binnall Revealed that, in Nevada, "Over 42.000 People Voted More than Once, at least 1.500 Dead People are Recorded as Voting, and More than 19.000 People Voted Even though they DidN't Live in that State, so that "the Election was Inevitably Ridden with Fraud !"

++ In Arizona a Public Hearing on 2020 Election Fraud/Irregularities was Organized, while the  State Senate's Judiciary Committee President, Eddie Farnsworth, issued 2 SubPoenas for Maricopa County (the Largest) Election Audits on Scanned "Mail-in" Ballots, and on Dominion Electronic Machines.*

+++ "New Mexico" was Added to the 6 "Swing" States, which Evoked a Kennedy v. Nixon 1960 Precedent, in order to Allow their "'Electors who Represent the (UnContested) Legal Ballots" to "Cast their Votes for President Trump", in a 2nd Slate of Alternative Great Electors, in view of the Decisive January 6, 2021 USA Congress' Official "Reading" of the 2020 US Presidential Election's Final Results, according to the US Federal Constitution. => Therefore, several US Medias Enlarged the Post-Electoral MAP of USA's Still "Pending" Cases, Picturing Not 6, But 7 States, where "Dueling Electors" exist.

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++++ Well Known Kentacky Senator Rand Paul and Alabama Representative Mo Brooks, are, reportedly, among those Ready to Contest, on that Crucial January 6 US Federal Congress' Meeting, the Credentials of Electors Based on "Questionable Legality Votes" at the "Swing" States, (according to Famous Late Supreme Court Justice Scalia's Key Wording, at the Bush v. Gore 2000 Case : See http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/usasupremecourtandvotefraud.html, etc), and Support the Alternative slate of Great Electors, Based on the UnContested "Legal Votes" (Comp. Supra), and Already Prepared at those States, Voted Nowadays, and Ready to act. In that case, the Congress has to Discuss and Vote on such Issues, with a Feasible Republican Majority in the Senate (according to the Forthcoming, January 5, two Senatorial ByElections in Georgia) could Obviously Help President Trump. But, the Constitutional Procedures would, reportedly, Enter, then, in "UnChartered Waters", Despite the Fact that, in some Hypothesis, the US Constitution points at States' Directly Voting for the President by 1 Vote Each, (mutatis-mutandis, as in an EU Council's Summit), while Republicans currently Hold a Majority of States.

At any case, "Eurofora" Believes that, in Substance, the Most Essential is to Clearly Find, at First, All the Truth about the Main Realities on this Controversial 2020 US Prasidential Election, Obviously Hampered by Wide-Spread Fraud Threats and Various Convergibg Gross Irregularities provoking Many Questionable Legality Ballots, and, Afterwards, Strive to Also Search one Practical Way or AnOher in order to Restore a Healthy and Basicaly Legal, Unquestionable Outcome, the Nearest possible to the American People's Real Wish.


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=> In such Circumstances, US President Don Trump stressed that it's still "Too Soon to Give up", But, on the Contrary, "Must ... Fight. People are Angry !", (about some RINOS Turn-Coats). + His Senior Laywer, young Jenna Ellis, declared that "the Date of Ultimate Significance" is "in January" 2021. "We still Have Time. The State Legislatures ... Can Inquire, they Can hold Hearings, they Can Reclaim their Delegates, and they Should. And, ...Now, All the Evidence we have brought forth ...Will give them Inspiration and Courage ...to Act". "Regardless" of that, "We'e Going to Continue to Do the Right thing". "“President Trump is Courageous, he is Standing for Truth, the Constitution, Election Integrity, and it is Always a Fight that is Worth Fighting". Inter aiia, Also by Filling Legal Complaints to District Courts for at least 4 "Swing" States, Looking towards Arriving at the US Federal Supreme Court, for the 1st Time. Meanwhile, ”We're going to continue to Press for these critical iInvestigations and I’m happy to see .. that Michigan, and Georgia, Arizona, and Other States, are Starting to make some Moves in their state Legislatures". "This is not a partisan issue. This is something that Every American should be Concerned with, so we're going to Continue to Fight that Battle. ...and I Hope that we do Rectify the correct Results of this Election".

+ In Parallel, Independent Lawyer and former Attorney Sydney Powell is reportedly Planning Next Steps on Enlarging and Spearheading Legal Complaints for the "Swing" States further and Higher. In Addition, Many American People have Recently Announced, also by Writting, that they would be "Proud to Take Part in an Eventual <<Class Action>>" Collective Move Against the 2020 Electoral Fraud/Gross Irregularities, Aiming to Reach USA's Federal Supreme Court, (which Seems, Perhaps, to Prefer such kind of Moves in those Affairs), as "Eurofora" Cooperators were Directly Informed by them, (Comp.: http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/usasupremecourtforpeopleclassaction.html, etc).


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The official presentation of a "Program" respecting People's choices voted in the June 7, 2009 EU Elections, to be debated in EU Council and EU Parliament during its 1st Session on July in Strasbourg, is the No 1 Priority, according to Democratic principles, for the Franco-German axis, said the main winners at the ballot box, French President Nicolas Sarkozy and German Chancellor Angie Merkel.

They stressed  that the New EU Commission's President must have a "Program" in favor of an EU which "protects" its Citizens, regulates financial markets and aims at a "Political" Europe" : a wording they have used as incompatible with Turkey's controversial EU bid.

They also declared ready for a "political" endorsment of "Mr. Barroso's candidacy" in June's EU Council, considering that an official decision would have to be made after EU Parliament's debates and votes, possibly from next month (July), with the legally necessary final acceptance shortly after Lisbon Treaty's entry into force, hoped for September or October.


- "A Program, and Mr. Barroso" : This resumes, in substance, the anouncements made by Sarkozy and Merkel, on the question of current EU Commission's President, Barroso's declared wish to succeed to himself for a second mandate, to be extended during the following 5 years.

 In their 1st meeting after EU Elections, they observed that "the Franco-German axis counted in European Elections' campaign... But, we both keep a realistic view : We saw the number of those who abstained, and we must absolutely give them an answer. We also see the disilusionment of an important number of Europeans vis a vis Europe, and we are aware of the responsibilities we have".

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 - The "Duty" of the new EU Commission's President, after June 7, 2009 EU Elections' result, "is to act for a Europe which protects the Europeans, to commit himself into working for a better Regulation of Financial transactions, ... and to have a Political will for Europe", underlined Sarkozy.

Therefore, "we have asked M. Barroso... to clarify, to officialy present the intentions he has", he anounced.

- "We want to speak also about the Programme", explained Merkel.

- "It's important that for the next EU Parliament's mandate (2009-2014) we take the right Decisions for Europe.  Obviously on Persons, but mainly Decisions on Issues", she stressed.

- "It's not simply a question of a Person, it's also a question of a Programme". We are "really asking Mr. Barroso to commit himself on a Program, and on Principles, on Values", Sarkozy added.

EU President-in-office, Czech Prime Minister Jan Fischer, accepted the Franco-German stance :

- "Barroso must present his Programme. The Czech Presidency agrees with that", Fischer reportedly said later, after meeting Sarkozy.

But Press reports from Brussels claimed that Barroso had preferred to be officially appointed by EU Council since June, (i.e. next week), "because this was implied by the current Treaty of Nice, according to him", and considered any delay until the possible ratification of the new, Lisbon Treaty on September/October, as "undemocratic".

- "At any case, independently of what Germany and France ask, it's also EU Parliament's wish". "We shall propose Mr Barroso's candidacy... But even in the framework of Nice Treaty, EU Parliament has to be associated in this Decision", the French President observed.

If this is correctly done, then "we support Mr. Barroso's candidature", and "if the (EU) Parliament agrees, we might ratify this decision since July", (i.e. next month), they both said.

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- "France and Germany support Baroso's candidacy, But we want to speak also on the Program. We believe that this Program should be established in close cooperation with EU Parliament, and that's why we have followed an appropriate way", said Merkel.  - If EU Parliament wants, this election can take place on July,  but this must be done in full agreement.

- "We shall support Mr. Barroso's candidacy, without doubt", said Sarkozy. "But we have asked from Mr. Barroso, as I told him yesterday, to put into detail.. his intentions, at the eve of his 2nd mandate, if the situation avails itself.


    France and Germany "don't want to take an Official Legal Decision by writting" during "the next (EU) Council" (on June 18-19), declared Sarkozy.  Because they prefer, at this stage, only "a Political decision" on June, "so that we (EU Council) can work together with EU Parliament", which starts to meet only Next Month, since July in Srasbourg, "leaving a Legal decision by writting for later".

    - "If the Conditions are fuillfiled in EU Parliament, we (EU Council) are ready to give the agreement and make it offficial", said Merkel

    - "But, now we are working in the base of Nice Treaty. If tommorow we want to work in the spirit of Lisbon Treaty, we have to find a proper way", she added.

    - "Of course it's Legally complicated, because we are going to make a Political proposal to the forthcoming Council, for an EU Commission's President, on the basis of Nice Treaty : So, we (EU Council) will not appoint the Commissioners. Only the President.  If EU Parliament agrees, it could endorse this position on July", explained Sarkozy.

    But, on Autumn, "if Ireland ratifies Lisbon Treaty, there will be, at any case, a 2nd Decision, to appoint the Commission's President, this time on the basis of Lisbon treaty, and then, we, the EU Member States, would have to appoint (also) the EU Commissioners", he added.

    As for the precise Timing :  - "Everything is suspended until the Irish vote... Now, we must all make everything possible to help Ireland to say "Yes"" to Lisbon Treaty... The Irish Referendum, ..will take place either on September or on October. It's a Question which depends on the Irish. And,  then, we shall have the Choice of the Candidates for the permanent Institutions of Europe".

    However, "if Ireland says No, we, French and Germans, have to assume our responsibilities, and we'll do so", he concluded.

    But British and Swedish governments were reportedly eager to have a final EU Council decision on Barroso since this month, on June's European Council. While the other EU Member Countries are divided, several of them preferring to wait until EU Parliament pronounces itself, on July, and/or until Lisbon Treaty might be ratified by Ireland at the beginning of the Autumn. Barroso's current mandate ends on November.

    There are also various, contradictory and/or unpredictable reactions inside EU Parliament vis a vis Barroso's wish to continue a 2nd mandate, because many MEPs are openly or secretly opposed, reluctant, or hesitating.

    In the biggest EU Countries, as France and Germany, EU Citizens voted on June 2009 EU Elections for a renovated, non-technocratic but Political Europe which cares for its Citizens, with an Identity, Values and Borders, declared incompatible with Turkey's controversial EU bid, by mainstream, pro-European Governing Parties. Similar choices were also supported in several other small or medium EU Countries.

    On the contrary, whenever, in other Countries, Governing and other mainstream Parties didn't make these choices or eluded them, EU Citizens massively voted for euro-Sceptics whenever they were the only ones to to promise anti-bureacratic change and oppose Turkey's demand to enter into the EU, (f.ex. in the UK, Netherlands, etc).

    It's seems to be an Open Question whether Sarkozy and Merkel's conditions will be really accepted by Barroso, who was appointed on 2004 in a different political context, (with Socialist Prime Ministers in Germany, France, etc), had rejected in the Past the idea of EU becoming "equal to the USA" as "ridiculous", and pushed for Turkey's contoversial EU bid, trying to "soften" or contain the changes desired by the People who voted for Merkel and Sarkozy with another policy vis a vis Turkey on 2005 in Germany and on 2007 in France, as they did all over Europe on 2009.

    In addition to many EPP Governments, it's 3 remaining Socialist Prime Ministers : Gordon Brown in the UK, Zapatero in Spain, and Socrates in Prortugal, who support Barroso, as well as Liberal Swedish Prime Minister Reinfeldt. But their Parties lost the June 2009 EU Elections.

    Questioned whether there was still "Time" for "other" possible "Candidates", Sarkozy and Merkel did not deny, nor made any comment on that, but simply said that "it's not for us to make publicity for any candidates. We anounced our choice ("A Program, and Mr. Barroso"). But we respect any other candidate".

    Among various other names cited are former Belgian Prime Minister Verhofstadt, former UNO's Human Rights Commissioner Mary Robinson of Ireland, Italian former EU Commission's vice-President Monti, etc. Meanwhile, Luxembourg's PM Juncker, (who had been unanimously accepted by EU Council for EU Commission's Presidency on 2004, but refused), announced his intention to resign from "EuroGroup"'s Chair. Thus, he might be available for another Top EU job.

    As "EuroFora"'s "opinion" said (See publication dated 9/6/09) : - "If the current candidates (i.e. Barroso, etc) to the Top EU jobs promise and guarantee to respect People's democratic choices, then, it's OK".

"Otherwise, Europe must find new candidates, really motivated and able to implement these democratic choices of the People."

    Because, "in Democracy, the forthcoming choices for EU's Top Jobs,...should be made according to EU Citizens' Votes in June 7, 2009 European Elections, and main EU Governments' strategic policies".
        

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