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Armenian President Sargsyan: Turkey Deadlocked Talks claiming Karabagh but Final Positions Time came

Written by ACM
Wednesday, 22 June 2011

 

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The President of Armenia, which will chair the CoE in a year and a half (beginning of 2013), Serzh Sargsyan, speaking to Journalists in Strasbourg, including "EuroFora", stressed that "Time has come for Final Positions" on the Nagorno-Karabach issue, that Turkey exploited in order to "provoke a Deadlock" in earlier attempts to normalize relations with Armenia, whose "illegal Blockade" by Ankara "must end", as he denounced afterwards in his speech to CoE's PanEuropean Parliamentary Assembly, at the eve of a Top Level meeting at Kazan in Russia, hosted by President Medvedev, for Peace-Talks in the framework of OSCE's "Minsk" process, comprising also France and USA.  
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-  "I'm ready to travel to Kazan in good faith and Good Expectations to engage in Constructive Talks", even if it's true that this has been a "rather Long Process of Talks", which "has Many Issues", Sargsyan replied to a question on Friday's forthcoming event.


- But, "the Positions of the Parties are Clear", and now, "I think that the Time has come for the parties to express their Final Positions on the Fundamental Principles" for a Soluion of the Nagorno-Karabach issue, the Armenian President stressed.
- However, "we'll Wait to See how the Talks actually End", he concluded carefully.
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- Normalization of relations between Turkey and Armenia should have resulted to a re-establishment of Diplomatic Relations, and at the Opening of the Border line, between the two countries, he reminded afterwards, speaking of the process which had started "2 years ago".


- But, on the contrary, it resulted into a Deadlock, for the clear reason that Turkey came back to its previous practice of raising Preliminary Conditions", and "didn't honor its commitment to sign the Protocols", Sargsyan denounced.


- "Having faced this Wall of Deception and Suspicion, (by Turkey) I regret to say that I can't predict when we might be anew able to seize a new opportunity. That's the Truth", the Armenian President warned.  While it was Armenia who had launched this process for peaceful coexistence, on the contrary, the other party, Turkey, still doesn't feel that it's necessary, Sargsyan criticized.


 - Instead of that, Ankara is engaged in a Brutal Negationism of the Armenian Genocide committed in the Turkish-Ottoman Empire on 1915. But, in the meantime, Armenians, throughout the World, always try to bring positions against these Crimes, focused in an International Recognition of the Armenian Genocide, he added.

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- However, "this illegal Blockade of Armenia" by Turkey, "must End !", he stressed."We can't leave this Problem Pending for the Generations to come, without any normalization of relations between Armenia and Turkey, which is important for peace and cooperation in the region, reiterated in conclusion Sargsyan, who is notoriously facing a strong political Opposition inside Armenia for his past attempts of rapprochemen to Turkey, as, among others, f.ex. a particularly Critical intervention of Dissident Armenian MEP Mrs Zaruhi Postanjyan. Meanwhile, Parliamentarian Elections are due in 2012, and Presidentials on 2013.
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 The Turkish Government has been officialy and repeatedly asked by the EU to normalize its relations also with Cyprus, but Ankara still persists to refuse to do so, even at the risk to provoke sometimes serious problems in the cooperation between EU and NATO, (whose 60th Anniversary, Heads of State/Government Summit, on April 2009 in Strasbourg, Turkey notoriously .. blocked for almost 2 Days, with various claims against the election of its New Secretary General, former Danish Prime Minister, Rasmussen : See "EuroFora"s NewsReports from that Historical NATO Summit, which coincided also with the 1st visit of USA President Obama to Europe).
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Turkey had notoriously used the Talks' with Armenia as a Timely pretext to claim that it would be making "Progress" on its EU Obligations, at an earlier, crucial moment, precisely when an important EU Decision on EU-Turkey Negotiations was due. But, afterwards, Ankara apparently let the process be blocked, once Turkey obtained what it wanted, after a very Mediatised meeting in Geneva...
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Meanwhile, an official "Written Declaration",  signed by 30 MEPs from all CoE Assembly's Political Groups and from various CoE Member Countries, (including f.ex.  France, EU chair Hungary, Switzerland, Czech and Slovak Republics, Greece, Romania, Lithuania, San Marino, Armenia, Sweden, etc), was circulating inside CoE's Assembly in Strasbourg, denouncing that Karabach ("Artsah"), in fact, "was never a part of the Azerbaijani Republic, that existed from 1918-1920", to which, nowadays modern "Azerbaijan declared itself the Successor".


- "It was (only) because of a Kemalist (Attaturk) - Bolshevik (Stalin) "Deal" (of 1922) that Artshak had become part of Soviet Azerbaijan" only, from which, "in 1990, the People of Karabagh Voted "Yes" to Independence, through a Referendum that was (reportedly) observed and recognized by numerous International Observers", according to the Liberty given then by the Post-Soviet CIS to all its former Entities to freely choose between remaining part of the CIS and/or Russia, or peacefully declaring their Independence, (as, f.ex., Azerbaijan itself did). "But, Refusing to accept the Arstsakh Armenians' lawful exercice of their Right to Self-Determination, Azerbaijan launched a large-scale Attack, which ended with the 1994 Ceasefire", the MEPs' Declaration notes, speaking also of a "2006 Constitutional Referendum" and asking "International Recognition and Membership in all International Organisations".


The claim that Nagorno-Karabach had never been Azerbaidjan's Land, had already been made in CoE's Assembly by former Armenian President Kotcharian some years earlier in Strasbourg. But the current President Sargsyan didn't say anything about it this time.


Turkey has notoriously been using the Nagorno-Karabach issue, and Azeri as well as Armenian People's sufferings from the unresolved conflict, in an indirect, covert but evident Propaganda which systematically  disguises it as a kind of ..."Clone" of Cyprus' Occupied Territories, obviously copying Nicosia's well-known 1974 complaints (mainly about Refugees/Displaced Persons, need to respect Territorial Integrity, withdraw Foreign Occupation Troops, etc), with a Delay of more than 20 Years later, (after the Middle of the 1990ies), but without conviencing anyone inside European, PanEuropean or International Organizations...
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+ "EuroFora" had agreed with Sargsyan's Press Attaché for a short question/reply, but when he kindly left us some seconds to raise our question, occupied to conclude notes of Sargsyan's previous statement (See supra), we didn't seize on time the given opportunity, despite our willingness, as the Armenian President apparently understood, smiling kindly to "EuroFora" after his speech at CoE's Assembly, while leaving Strasbourg after an initial, exceptionaly brief visit before Yerevan takes over CoE's rotating Chairmanship, in one year and a half...


Meanwhie, CoE's Secretary General, Thornbjorn Jagland said to Journalists in Strasbourg, including "EuroFora", that he thanked the Armenian President Sargsyan also for "News regarding the forthcoming meeting of the Minsk process", on efforts to solve the Nagorno-Karabagh issue, and observed that "for us (CoE) Armenia is a very important Country, located in a very important Region of Europe", between Urals and Ararat Mountains at the European part of Caucasus.

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Former "Green-Red" German government's Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer's job at the controversial Turkish pipeline "Nabucco" was denounced as "not proper", "very bad", and "incompatible with Democracy", by the new President of EU Parliament's EuroLeft Group, German Lothar Bisky, replying to an "EuroFora" question.

For once, criticism of Joschka Fischer's doings with Turkey affecting Europe, didn't come only from the Center-Right of the political spectrum, but even from his Left side : The experienced Bisky, who has been chairing all over 1993-2009 the PDS - Die Linke party :  

- "Former Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer got involved in dealings with oil-gaz business in a foreign country, Turkey, and its controversial Nabucco pipeline. This raises questions about Democracy, also because of the well known problems of Human Rights violations in that country. Do you thing that this might be abused in order to cover up and close EU's eyes on Human Rights violations ?", "EuroFora" asked Bisky.

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- "Nabucco pipeline is (only) at the planning stage". And "there are some difficulties",  he observed from the start. But "'I don't want to get into the details of Nabucco pipeline, because I don't think that there is any point for it at the moment".
 
At any case,  "we  (EU Parliament's EuroLeft Group) strongly believe that Politicians should not get involved in the Energy Business, and all these commercial transactions", President Bisky declared on the Joschka Fiischer's affair.

- "We feel that it's something that shouldn't be done. It's not proper !"           

- "We don't think that it's compatible with Democracy either, and it gets politics into a very Bad track", Bisky went on to denounce.
                                                                                                                                                                        
- "EuroLeft  and "Die Linke" always spoke against that, saying that politicians should not get directly into the arms of private enterprises"

- "It is pretty bad if a former Minister takes a job f.ex. in a major Energy producer. So, it's an issue if a Minister who may have seen excellent opportunities, subsequently gets personally grasp of them, in very serious parts of the economy, once he has given up his (Government) job."

- "It doesn't really make politics in general look any better'", Bisky concluded.

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Earlier, this week in Strasbourg, other Journalists had also raised critical questions on former Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer's involvement in the conroversial Turkish Nabucco pipeline to the President of his own EuroParty : Kohn-Bendit of the "Greens", who, contrary to Bisky, tried to find excuses for Fischer, while criticizing his long-time partner, Schroeder for having done a similar move :

- "Shroeder was chancellor", and he "negociated" with "Russians", who gave him a job only "3 Months" after he resigned from the Government. While "Joschka Fischer", on the contrary, got a job with the controversial Turkish Nabucco pipeline only "4 Years after" he left the Government. "He didn't negociate Nabucco", so I have "no objection", Kohn Bendit claimed.

But, many Facts indicate the contrary :

Joschka Fischer was Foreign Minister in Germany from 1999 up to 2005 : I.e. from the year that EU took the controversial decision to give Turkey a "Candidate" status, until he year it started controversial "accession negotiations, (later declared "open-ended" after Sarkozy-Merkel's arrival from 2005-2007).

During that period was prepared the controversial so-called "Annan" Plan (in fact, drafted by others and attributed afterwards to the former UN SG) on Cyprus, which failed after a Popular Referendum said "No" on 2004 with a large Majoriy of 3/4 : 75%. Mainly because it was criticized for making too much concessions to the Turkish side :  Particularly by restricting Greek Cypriot Refugees' Human Right to return to their ancestral Land and/or get restitution of their Familiy Homes and private properties, usurpated by Ankara's Army since the 1974 militay invasion and continuing occupation of the northern part of Cyprus. And by weakening the Central Government, leaving to 2 "constituent States" so much powers and separate interests that more conflicts appeared inevitable, provoking the danger of a break-down in the foreseable future, with more crisis, troubles, perhaps bloodshed, etc., instead of creating an harmoniously integrated, really one federal State.

The controversial Plan was finalized on March-April 2004 at Burgenstock (Switzerland), curiously in the presence of an Envoy by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Germany, then governed by Joschka Fischer, but in the absence of a French and not even an European Union's Envoy, contrary to what was usually practiced on similar occasions in Switzerland (fex. in 1997 at Montreux, in 2000 at Geneva, etc).

Turkey notoriously exploited the failure of the "Annan" Plan in order to convince the EU to decide to start accession Negotiations on December 2004. This provoked an unprecedented series of Institutional Crisis inside the EU, shortly afterwards, when French and Dutch People rejected, 2 popular EuroReferenda by a majority "'No" vote to the EU Constitutional Treaty on 2005, aggraveted in 2004 a Majority Abstention to EU Elections, etc., followed by the recent Irish "No", etc.

"Nabucco" Gas pipeline was notoriously planned since ..2002. It follows an even earlier idea, for an Oil pipeline Baku-Ceyhun, which started to be prepared on 1999-2001 and was meanwhile recently completed.  

So, facts indicate that what is now at stake is based on decisions made during Joschka Fischer's term as former Foreign Minister, closely interested in Turkey's controversial EU-bid.

To the point that he now practically ...switched jobs with a poliician from Turkey, (the State which pays today openly Joschka Fischer), Mr. Ozdemir, who came earlier in Germany, got fast the nationality, and became EiuroMP in a few years, continuing now as head of the "Greens" in Germany, i.e. in Joschka's former job !...

Such astonishing facts risk, unfotunately, to give to German politician Lothar Bisky's criticism of  representative Democracy a topical meaning :

 - "We (EuroLeft Group) think that what is really at stake is Democracy. It's not only about Gas Pipelines or Energy sources", President Lothar Bisky went on to add in his reply to "EuroFora"'s question on Joscka Fischer's personal interests in the controversial Turkish "Nabuco" pipeline.

Such facts, "make People get more distance from Politics. ...People had had enough, and they are fed up !".

- "That's why we (EuroParliament's "EuroLeft" Group) want to strengthen Direct Democracy in Europe. Citizens should be involved in the (EU) Decision-making. In the end of the day, it's not going to help anyone if Politicians are always taking decisions, without involving Citizens. We want to give a voice to the People of Europe. They've got to have their say in the decisions that are taken. That's one of our absolutely fixed and steadfast views. We want more Direct Democracy in Europe. That's how it can become more effective and stronger", he concluded.

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