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Armenian President Sargsyan: Turkey Deadlocked Talks claiming Karabagh but Final Positions Time came

Written by ACM
Wednesday, 22 June 2011

 

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The President of Armenia, which will chair the CoE in a year and a half (beginning of 2013), Serzh Sargsyan, speaking to Journalists in Strasbourg, including "EuroFora", stressed that "Time has come for Final Positions" on the Nagorno-Karabach issue, that Turkey exploited in order to "provoke a Deadlock" in earlier attempts to normalize relations with Armenia, whose "illegal Blockade" by Ankara "must end", as he denounced afterwards in his speech to CoE's PanEuropean Parliamentary Assembly, at the eve of a Top Level meeting at Kazan in Russia, hosted by President Medvedev, for Peace-Talks in the framework of OSCE's "Minsk" process, comprising also France and USA.  
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-  "I'm ready to travel to Kazan in good faith and Good Expectations to engage in Constructive Talks", even if it's true that this has been a "rather Long Process of Talks", which "has Many Issues", Sargsyan replied to a question on Friday's forthcoming event.


- But, "the Positions of the Parties are Clear", and now, "I think that the Time has come for the parties to express their Final Positions on the Fundamental Principles" for a Soluion of the Nagorno-Karabach issue, the Armenian President stressed.
- However, "we'll Wait to See how the Talks actually End", he concluded carefully.
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- Normalization of relations between Turkey and Armenia should have resulted to a re-establishment of Diplomatic Relations, and at the Opening of the Border line, between the two countries, he reminded afterwards, speaking of the process which had started "2 years ago".


- But, on the contrary, it resulted into a Deadlock, for the clear reason that Turkey came back to its previous practice of raising Preliminary Conditions", and "didn't honor its commitment to sign the Protocols", Sargsyan denounced.


- "Having faced this Wall of Deception and Suspicion, (by Turkey) I regret to say that I can't predict when we might be anew able to seize a new opportunity. That's the Truth", the Armenian President warned.  While it was Armenia who had launched this process for peaceful coexistence, on the contrary, the other party, Turkey, still doesn't feel that it's necessary, Sargsyan criticized.


 - Instead of that, Ankara is engaged in a Brutal Negationism of the Armenian Genocide committed in the Turkish-Ottoman Empire on 1915. But, in the meantime, Armenians, throughout the World, always try to bring positions against these Crimes, focused in an International Recognition of the Armenian Genocide, he added.

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- However, "this illegal Blockade of Armenia" by Turkey, "must End !", he stressed."We can't leave this Problem Pending for the Generations to come, without any normalization of relations between Armenia and Turkey, which is important for peace and cooperation in the region, reiterated in conclusion Sargsyan, who is notoriously facing a strong political Opposition inside Armenia for his past attempts of rapprochemen to Turkey, as, among others, f.ex. a particularly Critical intervention of Dissident Armenian MEP Mrs Zaruhi Postanjyan. Meanwhile, Parliamentarian Elections are due in 2012, and Presidentials on 2013.
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 The Turkish Government has been officialy and repeatedly asked by the EU to normalize its relations also with Cyprus, but Ankara still persists to refuse to do so, even at the risk to provoke sometimes serious problems in the cooperation between EU and NATO, (whose 60th Anniversary, Heads of State/Government Summit, on April 2009 in Strasbourg, Turkey notoriously .. blocked for almost 2 Days, with various claims against the election of its New Secretary General, former Danish Prime Minister, Rasmussen : See "EuroFora"s NewsReports from that Historical NATO Summit, which coincided also with the 1st visit of USA President Obama to Europe).
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Turkey had notoriously used the Talks' with Armenia as a Timely pretext to claim that it would be making "Progress" on its EU Obligations, at an earlier, crucial moment, precisely when an important EU Decision on EU-Turkey Negotiations was due. But, afterwards, Ankara apparently let the process be blocked, once Turkey obtained what it wanted, after a very Mediatised meeting in Geneva...
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Meanwhile, an official "Written Declaration",  signed by 30 MEPs from all CoE Assembly's Political Groups and from various CoE Member Countries, (including f.ex.  France, EU chair Hungary, Switzerland, Czech and Slovak Republics, Greece, Romania, Lithuania, San Marino, Armenia, Sweden, etc), was circulating inside CoE's Assembly in Strasbourg, denouncing that Karabach ("Artsah"), in fact, "was never a part of the Azerbaijani Republic, that existed from 1918-1920", to which, nowadays modern "Azerbaijan declared itself the Successor".


- "It was (only) because of a Kemalist (Attaturk) - Bolshevik (Stalin) "Deal" (of 1922) that Artshak had become part of Soviet Azerbaijan" only, from which, "in 1990, the People of Karabagh Voted "Yes" to Independence, through a Referendum that was (reportedly) observed and recognized by numerous International Observers", according to the Liberty given then by the Post-Soviet CIS to all its former Entities to freely choose between remaining part of the CIS and/or Russia, or peacefully declaring their Independence, (as, f.ex., Azerbaijan itself did). "But, Refusing to accept the Arstsakh Armenians' lawful exercice of their Right to Self-Determination, Azerbaijan launched a large-scale Attack, which ended with the 1994 Ceasefire", the MEPs' Declaration notes, speaking also of a "2006 Constitutional Referendum" and asking "International Recognition and Membership in all International Organisations".


The claim that Nagorno-Karabach had never been Azerbaidjan's Land, had already been made in CoE's Assembly by former Armenian President Kotcharian some years earlier in Strasbourg. But the current President Sargsyan didn't say anything about it this time.


Turkey has notoriously been using the Nagorno-Karabach issue, and Azeri as well as Armenian People's sufferings from the unresolved conflict, in an indirect, covert but evident Propaganda which systematically  disguises it as a kind of ..."Clone" of Cyprus' Occupied Territories, obviously copying Nicosia's well-known 1974 complaints (mainly about Refugees/Displaced Persons, need to respect Territorial Integrity, withdraw Foreign Occupation Troops, etc), with a Delay of more than 20 Years later, (after the Middle of the 1990ies), but without conviencing anyone inside European, PanEuropean or International Organizations...
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+ "EuroFora" had agreed with Sargsyan's Press Attaché for a short question/reply, but when he kindly left us some seconds to raise our question, occupied to conclude notes of Sargsyan's previous statement (See supra), we didn't seize on time the given opportunity, despite our willingness, as the Armenian President apparently understood, smiling kindly to "EuroFora" after his speech at CoE's Assembly, while leaving Strasbourg after an initial, exceptionaly brief visit before Yerevan takes over CoE's rotating Chairmanship, in one year and a half...


Meanwhie, CoE's Secretary General, Thornbjorn Jagland said to Journalists in Strasbourg, including "EuroFora", that he thanked the Armenian President Sargsyan also for "News regarding the forthcoming meeting of the Minsk process", on efforts to solve the Nagorno-Karabagh issue, and observed that "for us (CoE) Armenia is a very important Country, located in a very important Region of Europe", between Urals and Ararat Mountains at the European part of Caucasus.

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    An "Eugenic" loophole Amendment, which might expose to Dangers reminiscent of "3rd Reich's" notorious Genetic Abuses, hidden at the last minute inside an otherwise Good, larger Health policy Package scheduled to be voted on Thursday, was strongly denounced by a coalition of MEPs from various Political Groups and Countries, in a Press Conference held this afternoon at EU Parliament in Strasbourg.

    Mainly calling to "Select Human Embryos", via "Genetic Counselling" and "pre-implantation" Techniques including "Genetic Tests", in order to "Eradicate Hereditary rare Diseases", it might open ways to Dangerous Practices in Future, they denounced in substance.

    But they also made it clear that a much larger Report inside which this Controversial Amendment "No 15" was added in dubious circumstances, officialy destinated to struggle against "Rare Diseases", and drafted by Professor Antonios Trakatellis, was otherwise "an Excellent Report", aiming at a "completely Uncontroversial target" of Health policy on which "all MEPs and Experts are united, believing that Europe should act" to protect People's Health (See "EuroFora"'s earlier News).

    The controversy came at a particularly delicate moment for the EU in relation to Citizens, at the eve of June 2009 EU Elections, and shortly before Ireland re-votes for "Lisbon Treaty"..    

- Denouncing risks of "an Eugenic demand, very similar to what we had during the 3rd Reich in Germany, but now coming from some Scientisists themselves", German ChristianDemocrat/EPP MEP Dr. Peter Liese stressed that critical MEPs were against "Eugenic" engineering with "Selection of Human Embryos", and anything which might ultimately lead up to to a "Selection of Human Race". It doesn't help to "eradicate" Human Lives, he added.


    Several Experts and NGOs expressed "Deep Concern", as f;ex. DR M.C. Cornel of the "European Society of Human Genetics", which stressed, on this occasion, that "the importance of Non-Directiveness in Reproductive issues is a Central characteristic of Human Genetics, after the Atrocities committed in the name of Genetics in the first half or the 20th Century".

     - "This is completely Unacceptable", stressed Italian Liberal MEP Vittorio Prodi, on the Controversial Amendment, also because pushes to "eliminate early Human Life", as he noted.

     - "This opens a Dangerous Road, rather a Motorway", denounced Danish MEP Mrs Margrette Auken, from the "Greens", observing that various similar attempts were made in the Past "not only in Germany, but also in several other Countries, "even at the 1970ies", "f.ex. on forced Sterilisation of Roma" People, and other criticisable situations f.ex. in the UK, in Sweden, etc. as she said.

    + Other NGOs, as f.ex. "LebenHilfe" from Berlin, added that, among various other Risks, could also be that, by exploiting the pre-implantation Genetic Diagnostics and the Selection of "healthy" Embryos, some may "propagate" several "Eugenic" aims, starting f.ex. by pushing to eradicate Human Livies which might "Cost too much" to preserve, ultimately exposing to dangers reminiscent of the "3rd Reich"'s atrocious abuses.

    In consequence, ChristianDemocrats/EPP and "Green" MEPs "decided by Majority to vote against" this Controversial Amendment, anounced to Journalists the 5 MEPs who participated in the Press Conference, representing a wide spectrum, from Liberals to "Greens" and ChristianDemocrats, and from Hungary, Italy, Germany and Danemark up to Ireland (Gay Mitchell), etc.
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    Hungarian ChristianDemocrat MEP Laszlo Surjan said "that it was "Suddenly, at the End of the Procedure" in Committee, that "appeared this (Controversial) Amendment, which has nothing to do" with the main purpose of the Report, on which all agreed.

    He denounced an "Unhonest" move, and called to "avoid this kind of unacceptable situations". Nobody should "Select People", Surjan stressed.

    - "We (MEPs) had No Chance to Discuss" this last-minute Amendment earlier added at a Committee's level, said German MEP Peter Liese

    Speaking to "EuroFora", Dr. Liese, the Spokesman of the ChristianDemocrat/EPP Group in EU Parliament, said that MEPs didn't oppose other references of the Report f.ex. on "Genetic Tests", because they were "no proposals" to impose them, while, on the contrary, there was "a Problem" if anyone attempted to "impose" f.ex. this or that Genetic Technique and "Genetic Counselling", etc. to the People on human reproduction.
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    Controversial parts of Amendment No 15 ask mainly "to lead finally to the Eradication" of "Hereditary" "rare diseases", "through Genetic Counselling .., and ..pre-Implantation Selection of healthy Embryos".

    But  EU Rapporteur Professor Trakatellis, said to "EuroFora" that fears should be alleviated by Guarantees that all this should be done only "where appropriate", when it's "not contrary to existing National Law", and "always on a Voluntary basis", according to other Parts of the Amendment.

    He stressed that the main aim was to allow "a free and informed choice of persons involved", without imposing them anything :  - "It's not an obligatory, but advisary" text, he said.

    To make that point clear, he was ready, in agreement with many MEPs, to eventually drop at least that part of the controversial Amendment which initially called for "efforts to ..lead finally to the Eradication of those rare diseases" "which are Hereditary".

    But, until late Wednesday evening, reportedly together with many other MEPs, he stood by all the rest of the controversial Amendment, (fex. on the "Genetic Counselling" and the "pre-implantation Selection of healthy Embryos"), so that critical MEPs, going from ChristianDemocrats as Dr. Liese, to "Greens" or "Ind/Dem", observed to "EuroFora" that "this was not enough" to close the dangerous loophole.

    Particularly since, as Professor Trakatellis noted himself, "this is already allowed to the U.K.", and "other National Legislations would probably follow, sooner or later" in a similar direction. As for a general call to "Eradicate Hereditary rare Diseases", this "should happen, at any case, in practice, de facto", to protect public Health.

    On the contrary, "our goal should be to help patients suffering from rare diseases, not to eradicate the patients. In case of genetic disease risk, the decision should not be guided by scenarios" made by politicians. "Perents who may decide to accept a child, even if handicapped or with genetic disease, must be respected and supported with solidarity", critical MEPs stated.

    - "Any Pressure" to "a patient or couple (who "should be able to make an informed choice consistent with their own values"),"from health Professionals, Public Health Policies or Governemental Institutions, or Society at large, should be avoided", stresses the "European Society for Human Genetics".

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Each MEP's vote will be registered !

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The Socialist Group requested a "Split vote" on the Amendment 15, first without, and afterwards with the words "lead finally to the Eradication" etc.


    But the first "split vote" leaves intact all the other parts of the Controversial Amendment, (i.e. "Genetic Counselling", "Selection of healthy Embryos", etc).

    That's why, 3 Groups of MEPs : ChristianDemocrats/EPP, "Greens/EFA", and "Ind/Dem", have asked for "Roll Call Votes", on everything regarding the Controversial Amendment No 15, and on the final outcome of the resulting Report as amended, which will register all the individual positions to be taken by each MEP.   

Something which will obviously make each MEP think twice before voting for one or another choice, to be sure that he/she will make the right choice in front of EU Citizens, particularly at these pre-Election times...


    Crucial Votes were scheduled between 12 Noon and 1 p.m. local Strasbourg time, in the middle of a long series of various other Reports, and after a long Public Debate on the larger Health policy package, from 9 to 11.50 am.

    The specific Report inside which was hidden the controversial Amendment is due to be debated between 11 and 12 am.

    So that more last-minute Surprises may not be excluded a priori...

    Particularly at the present Historic moment, when even the Institutional Future of the EU depends on the result of a second Referendum on "Lisbon Treaty", later this year, in ...Ireland, a mainly Catholic country, where People are particularly sensitive in such kind of socio-cultural and values issues...
 

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