EU + Liberty, Health, Safety : Ways of understanding
NewsViewPoint on "EU and Liberty, Health, Safety", by Patrick Bracker
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Patrick Bracker
Liberty, health, safety,
Ways of understanding
Finding a balance between freedom and security is an old story. Totalitarian and free countries do not have a common vision on this, except of course in cases of extreme necessity, such as major natural or other disasters, or even NBC.
Some nations, whose calculating leaders have lost faith, and perhaps the compass or even the professionalism that came out of the Cold War, are confining themselves.
There is, however, progress on the part of some heads of state, who are listening and changing their way of thinking, especially when full powers are put in place? However, these powers seem to me to be inadequate to the present health and health situation. Indeed, this is not a war, the subject matter is disproportionate, but a health situation that needs to be addressed in the societal, scientific, medical, laboratory and pharmaceutical fields.
As I pointed out privately at the outset of this case, the central questions are not being answered; Mrs Condoleezza Rice asked the right questions during the video conference at the Hoover Institute on 14 April 2020. Obviously we have seen some bounce back from this intervention.
This raises the question of diagnosis and evaluation.
This being the case, there is no need to provoke other states like the Chinese in this matter, but to solve the problems in international cooperation.
Europe has been slow to react, particularly because of the change of Commission last July, and the arrival of many young people inexperienced in European affairs, both in the European Council and the European Parliament. The renewal of the European political generation is a fact that must be taken into account.
Although the 2019-2024 term of office is experiencing teething troubles, all the players in the European institutions now have a duty to acquire and build on their experience in order to progress. This also involves a phase of humility in relation to the ambitions of a few. The problems are well known. First of all, I would recommend continuing the work of the Junker Commission and then progressing step by step towards selected and voted developments agreed by the Member States and the citizens.
We will be able to rely on the experienced players in our institutions, both European civil servants, MEPs and Member States, to meet these challenges.
Finally, after a few months of virtual absence, some progress has been made in tackling the European public health problem: such as the establishment of common resources at different levels to solve the problem, taking into account the disparities between health systems and their approaches in the European states.
This is a path that helps European progress, in cooperation with the MS that are doing their research, while extending at international level the effort needed to resolve this health crisis. Work together!
There is no need for any autocratic process or authoritarian power drift, whose objectives would not be very clear and would take us back to an earlier period around the 19th century.
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Our institutions, nations and citizens are following the curve of progress in all fields, and the scales of value appreciation have evolved positively over the decades, the use of psychological or other techniques to return to the painful past we know is a professional fault on the part of those who use such methods. Let us remain vigilant in the face of these egocentric deviations.
I recall that Jesus Christ liberates and heals; it is also a dimension! Keep faith and hope!
Ways to Liberty and free choice
BP
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Freiheit, Gesundheit, Sicherheit,
Wege des Verstehens
Ein Gleichgewicht zwischen Freiheit und Sicherheit zu finden, ist eine alte Geschichte. Totalitäre und freie Länder haben diesbezüglich keine gemeinsame Vision, außer natürlich in Fällen äußerster Notwendigkeit, wie bei großen Natur- oder anderen Katastrophen oder sogar bei ABC-Katastrophen.
Einige Nationen, deren berechnende Führer den Glauben und vielleicht auch den Kompass oder sogar die Professionalität, die aus dem Kalten Krieg hervorgegangen sind, verloren haben, schränken sich ein.
Es gibt jedoch Fortschritte seitens einiger Staatsoberhäupter, die zuhören und ihre Denkweise ändern, vor allem, wenn volle Befugnisse eingeführt werden. Diese Befugnisse scheinen mir jedoch im Hinblick auf die gegenwärtige gesundheitliche und gesundheitliche Situation unzureichend zu sein. In der Tat handelt es sich hier nicht um einen Krieg, die Thematik ist unverhältnismäßig, sondern um eine Gesundheitssituation, die in den Bereichen Gesellschaft, Wissenschaft, Medizin, Labor und Pharmazie angegangen werden muss.
Wie ich zu Beginn dieses Falles privat darauf hingewiesen habe, dass die zentralen Fragen nicht beantwortet werden, hat Frau Condoleezza Rice während der Videokonferenz im Hoover-Institut am 14. April 2020 die richtigen Fragen gestellt. Offensichtlich haben wir gesehen, dass sich einige von dieser Intervention erholt haben..
Unter diesen Umständen ist es sinnlos, andere Staaten wie die Chinesen in dieser Angelegenheit zu provozieren, sondern die Probleme in der internationalen Zusammenarbeit zu lösen.
Europa hat nur langsam reagiert, vor allem wegen des Wechsels der Kommission im vergangenen Juli 2019, und der Ankunft vieler junger Menschen, die in europäischen Angelegenheiten unerfahren sind, sowohl im Europäischen Rat als auch im Europäischen Parlament. Die Erneuerung der europäischen politischen Generation ist eine Tatsache, der man Rechnung tragen muss.
Obwohl die Amtszeit 2019-2024 Kinderkrankheiten aufweist, haben alle Akteure in den europäischen Institutionen nun die Pflicht, ihre Erfahrungen zu sammeln und auszubauen, um voranzukommen. Dazu gehört auch eine Phase der Demut gegenüber den Ambitionen einiger weniger. Die Probleme sind bekannt. Zunächst einmal würde ich empfehlen, die Arbeit der Junker-Kommission fortzusetzen und dann Schritt für Schritt auf ausgewählte und abgestimmte Entwicklungen zuzugehen, auf die sich die Mitgliedstaaten und die Bürgerinnen und Bürger geeinigt haben. Wir werden uns bei der Bewältigung dieser Herausforderungen auf die erfahrenen Akteure in unseren Institutionen verlassen können, sowohl auf die europäischen Beamten, die Abgeordneten des Europäischen Parlaments als auch die Mitgliedstaaten.
Schließlich sind nach einigen Monaten virtueller Abwesenheit einige Fortschritte bei der Bewältigung des Problems der öffentlichen Gesundheit in Europa erzielt worden: So wurden auf verschiedenen Ebenen gemeinsame Ressourcen zur Lösung des Problems geschaffen, wobei die Unterschiede zwischen den Gesundheitssystemen und ihren Ansätzen in den europäischen Staaten berücksichtigt wurden.
Dies ist ein Weg, der den europäischen Fortschritt in Zusammenarbeit mit den MS, die ihre Forschung betreiben, fördert und gleichzeitig die zur Lösung dieser Gesundheitskrise erforderlichen Anstrengungen auf internationaler Ebene ausweitet.
Es besteht keine Notwendigkeit für einen autokratischen Prozess oder ein Abdriften autoritärer Macht, deren Ziele nicht sehr klar wären und uns in eine frühere Periode um das 19. Unsere Institutionen, Nationen und Bürger folgen der Kurve des Fortschritts in allen Bereichen, und die Skalen der Wertschätzung von Werten haben sich im Laufe der Jahrzehnte positiv entwickelt, der Einsatz psychologischer oder anderer Techniken zur Rückkehr in die Vergangenheit ist, wie wir wissen, ein professioneller Fehler derer, die solche Methoden anwenden. Lassen Sie uns angesichts dieser egozentrischen Abweichungen wachsam bleiben.
Ich erinnere daran, dass Jesus Christus befreit und heilt; es ist auch eine Dimension!
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Libertà, salute, sicurezza,
modi di intendere
Trovare un equilibrio tra libertà e sicurezza è una vecchia storia. I paesi totalitari e liberi non hanno una visione comune su questo, tranne naturalmente in casi di estrema necessità, come ad esempio grandi catastrofi naturali o di altro tipo, o anche NBC.
Alcune nazioni i cui leader calcolatori hanno perso la fede, e forse la bussola o anche la professionalità emersa dalla guerra fredda, si stanno confinando.
C'è, tuttavia, un progresso da parte di alcuni capi di Stato, che ascoltano e cambiano il loro modo di pensare, soprattutto quando vengono messi in atto i pieni poteri? Tuttavia, questi poteri mi sembrano inadeguati all'attuale situazione sanitaria e di salute. In effetti, non si tratta di una guerra, l'argomento è sproporzionato, ma di una situazione sanitaria che deve essere affrontata in campo sociale, scientifico, medico, di laboratorio e farmaceutico.
Come ho fatto notare privatamente all'inizio di questo caso, le domande centrali non hanno avuto risposta, la signora Condoleezza Rice ha posto le domande giuste durante la videoconferenza all'Hoover Institute del 14 aprile 2020. Ovviamente abbiamo visto un po' di ripresa da questo intervento.
Ciò solleva la questione della diagnosi e della valutazione.
Stando così le cose, è inutile provocare altri Stati, come i cinesi, ma risolvere i problemi della cooperazione internazionale.
L'Europa ha reagito con lentezza, soprattutto a causa del cambio di Commissione dello scorso luglio 2019 e dell'arrivo di molti giovani inesperti negli affari europei, sia al Consiglio europeo che al Parlamento europeo. Il rinnovamento della generazione politica europea è un fatto di cui bisogna tenere conto.
Anche se il mandato 2019-2024 sta attraversando un periodo di difficoltà iniziali, tutti gli attori delle istituzioni europee hanno ora il dovere di acquisire e valorizzare la loro esperienza per progredire. Ciò comporta anche una fase di umiltà in relazione alle ambizioni di pochi. I problemi sono ben noti. Prima di tutto, raccomando di continuare il lavoro della Commissione Junker e poi di procedere passo dopo passo verso sviluppi selezionati e votati concordati dagli Stati membri e dai cittadini. Per affrontare queste sfide potremo contare sull'esperienza degli attori delle nostre istituzioni, sia dei funzionari pubblici europei, sia dei deputati al Parlamento europeo e degli Stati membri.
Infine, dopo alcuni mesi di assenza virtuale, sono stati fatti alcuni progressi nell'affrontare il problema della sanità pubblica europea: come la creazione di risorse comuni a diversi livelli per risolvere il problema, tenendo conto delle disparità tra i sistemi sanitari e dei loro approcci negli Stati europei.
Questo è un percorso che aiuta il progresso europeo, in collaborazione con gli SM che stanno facendo la loro ricerca, estendendo a livello internazionale lo sforzo necessario per risolvere questa crisi sanitaria.
Non c'è bisogno di alcun processo autocratico o di una deriva di potere autoritario, i cui obiettivi non sarebbero molto chiari e ci riporterebbero a un periodo precedente, intorno al XIX secolo.
Le nostre istituzioni, le nazioni e i cittadini stanno seguendo la curva del progresso in tutti i campi, e le scale di apprezzamento dei valori si sono evolute positivamente nel corso dei decenni, l'uso di tecniche psicologiche o di altro tipo per tornare al passato che sappiamo essere una colpa professionale da parte di chi usa tali metodi. Rimaniamo vigili di fronte a queste deviazioni egocentriche.
Ricordo che Gesù Cristo libera e guarisce; è anche una dimensione!
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Liberté, santé , sécurité,
chemins de compréhension
Trouver un équilibre entre liberté et sécurité, vieille affaire. Les pays totalitaires et les pays libres n'ont pas de vision commune à ce propos, sauf évidemment en cas d'extrême nécessité, style catastrophe majeure naturelle ou autre, voire NBC.
Certaines nations dont les responsables calculateurs ont perdu la foi, et peut être la boussole voire le professionnalisme issu de la guerre froide, confinent.
Il y a cependant des progrès de la part de certains chefs d'état, qui sont à l’écoute et évoluent dans leurs façon de penser, en particulier lorsque les pleins pouvoirs sont mis en place, cependant, inadéquats à cette présente situation sanitaire et de santé. En effet il ne s'agit pas d'une guerre, le propos est disproportionné, mais d'une situation sanitaire à régler dans les domaines sociétaux, scientifiques, médicaux, laborantins, et pharmaceutiques.
Comme je l’ai signalé dès le départ de cette affa, ire, les questions centrales ne sont pas répondues, Madame Condoleezza Rice a posé les bonnes questions au cours de la visioconférence à l’Institut Hoover le 14 avril 2020. Évidemment on a vu rebondir certains suite à cette intervention.
Cela pose la question du diagnostic et de l’évaluation
Ceci étant il est inutile de provoquer d'autres états comme les chinois en la matière, mais de résoudre les problèmes en coopération international.
L'Europe a mis du temps à réagir, du fait notamment du changement de Commission en juillet dernier, et de l'arrivée de nombreux jeunes inexpérimentés en la matière européenne, aussi bien au Conseil Européen et au Parlement Européen. le renouvellement de la génération politique européenne est un fait dont il faut tenir compte.
Bien que la mandature 2019-2024 connaisse des ratés au démarrage, l'ensemble des acteurs des institutions européennes, ont maintenant le devoir d'acquérir et de bâtir leur expérience pour progresser. Cela passe aussi par une phase d'humilité par rapport aux ambitions de quelques-uns. Les problèmes sont connus. Dans un premier temps, je préconise la continuité des travaux de la Commission Junker puis de progresser pas à pas vers des évolutions choisies, et votées, agrées par les EM et les citoyens.
L'on pourra s'appuyer sur les acteurs expérimentés de nos institutions, aussi bien les fonctionnaires européens que les eurodéputés et les Etats membres pour répondre à ces enjeux.
L'on note enfin, après quelques mois de quasi absence, quelques progrès face à la problématique de santé publique européenne: comme la mise en place de ressources communes de différents niveaux, pour résoudre le problème en tenant compte des disparités entre les systèmes de santé et leur approches dans les états européens.
C'est un chemin qui aide au progrès européen , en coopération avec les EM qui font leur recherches, et en prolongeant au niveau international l'effort nécessaire à résoudre cette crise sanitaire.
Il n'est nul besoin de quelque procédé autocratique ou de dérive de pouvoir autoritaire, dont les objectifs ne seraient pas très clairs et ramèneraient à une période antérieure vers le XIX siècle. Nos institutions , nations et citoyens suivent la courbe du progrès tous domaines, et les échelles d'appréciations des valeurs ont évolué de manière positive avec les décennies, l’emploi de techniques psychologiques ou autres pour revenir au passé que l'on connait est une faute professionnelle de la part de ceux qui utilisent de telles méthodes. Restons vigilants face à ces déviation égocentriques
Je rappelle que Jésus Christ libère et guérit; c'est aussi une dimension!
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EU Rapporteur on Enlargment Strategy, maistream German MEP Elmar Brok, speaking to "EuroFora", welcomed the proposal made earlier this week by French President Nicolas Sarkozy for the EU to"start Now Talks with Turkey to create a common Economic and Security area", instead of full Accession, at a period when Ankara looks more and more unfit and/or unwilling to respect EU conditions.
- "For Europe to have strong Political will, it must stop dilutiing itself in an endless Enlargement. It must have borders...Diversities enrich, on the condition that they don't undermine European Cohesion, and don't weaken EU Unity", Sarkozy stressed.
- "Countries like Turkey share a part of common destiny with Europe, with which they have a vocation to build a Privileged Relation, to be closely associated, but not to become Member of the EU" : "Noone respects his friends by telling them lies. Noone respects his friends by making them promises that will be never kept", he added.
That's why "we'd better start, from now, negotiating with Turkey to create a common Economic and Security area", Sarkozy proposed.
Significantly, the French President was repeatedly and largely applauded by EU citizens, 3 times, when he made the Turkey point, (strategically placed between Europe's "Political Will" and its cultural heritage, historically open to mutually enriching dialogue with all the World, but never diluted).
- "We could propose such a great ambition also to Russia, which must not be percieved as an Adversary of Europe, but as a Partner. Thus, we'd create a wide area, of more than 800 Million inhabitants, sharing the same Security, the same Prosperity", he concluded.
Sarkozy's move was anounced at the eve of a Franco-German Top meeting with Chancellor Angie Merkel in Berlin on Sunday, to jointly launch the EU Elections campain, after an EU Summit at nearby Prague, to launch a new kind of relations, called "Eastern Partnership", with neighboring countries such as Urkaine, Belarus, Moldova, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaidjan, etc, (to which Russia, reportedly, is not - and does not want to be - included).
As for Ukraine, which has already expressed her wish to join the EU in future, "Kiev will have a special place, and a very important role to play", replied earlier this week in Strasbourg, to an "EuroFora" question EU Chairman in office , Czech vice-Prime Minister Alexander Vodra.
- "This direction is more Realistic for Turkey than Accession negotiations", reacted immediately EU Parliament's Rapporteur for Enlargment Strategy, mainstream German MEP Elmar Brok, commenting Sarkozy's idea for "EuroFora"
Particularly "as far as it concerns the respect of EU Rules by both sides", he added, hinting at Turkey's now obvious inability and/or unwillingness to abide with EU Acquis, EU Commitments (fex. on Cyprus, etc), and European Democracy/Human Rights rules. (Comp. infra).
Brok added that, in his view, a similar proposal might be made also to Ukraine and other neighbouring Countries, regardless if they have, or not, a "European vocation". This would not necessarily mean that there couldn't be any accession prospects at all." for all the countries that might be included in this area, according to Brok. But it's preferable, particularly for Turkey, "because it's a more Realistic approach than full Membership".
On this point, Sarkozy's proposal, (which he'll share with German Chancellor Merkel), seems more crystal-clear.
- "Turkey does not fullfil EU Criteria, and will never fullfil EU Criteria" on Human Rights, Democracy and Rule of Law. "Some have been lying to Ankara, but we must tell the Truth, and have honest and close relations with her", said meanwhile to "EuroFora" on the same issue also the President of EU Parliament's largest Group of MEPs (ChristianDemocrats/EPP), Joseph Daul.
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"Hot" Debate at EU Parliament reveals CHANGE of mood towards "Suspension" of EU - Tukey talks.
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Earlier this week, many MEPs, and even some of those who were previously in favor of Turkey's controversial EU bid, strongly criticized the persistance and even aggravation of serious Human Rights violations in the country, that ECHR continues to "unanimously" condemn ":
- "After winning a big victory in the latest Local Elections, the pro-Kurdish party DTP almost doubled its Elected Mayors from 52 to 98", but afterwards "more than 400 politicians were thrown to Prison and prosecuted" by the Turkish Authorities, denounced on behalf of the ChristianDemocrat/EPP Group, Belgian MEP Frieda Brepoels.
At the same time, "more than 1.500 Children are closed in Turkish Prisons", she added. "What will the EU Commission do" against these facts ?
- "Turkey appears to be at greater Distance away from Copenhagen Criteria after 4 Years of accession Negotiations, than when they started !", denounced on behalf of the Liberal Group, German MEP Alexander Lambsdorf.
"On the central issue of Press Freedom, Critical Journalists face obstacles for their accreditation, others are prosecuted, condemned, fined and/or jailed, Media blocked or closed", he denounced.
- "EU Made 2 grave Mistakes with Turkey : To start accession negotiations, and to continue them", despite everything, criticized Dutch MEP Bastian Belder, on behalf of the Ind/Dem group.
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